Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Jerry Dipoto's Tone Deaf Statements Kick Off Mariners' Offseason in Brutal Fashion

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

It could have been a very normal, run-of-the-mill end-of-season press conference for Jerry Dipoto, Justin Hollander, and Scott Servais on Tuesday. But instead, it was anything but as Dipoto made several comments that garnered attention in both the Mariners' fanbase and the national landscape for all the wrong reasons. Colby and Ty, befuddled by the absurdity of some of Dipoto's statements, fight through the pain of yet another embarrassing Mariners moment in 2023 to discuss what all went down.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Jase MedicalSave more than $360 by getting these lifesaving antibiotics with Jase Medical plus an additional $20 off by using code LOCKEDON at checkout on jasemedical.com.  eBay MotorsKeep your ride-or-die alive at ebay.com/motors. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelMake Every Moment More.Make Every Moment More. Right now, NEW customers can bet FIVE DOLLARS and get TWO HUNDRED in BONUS BETS - GUARANTEED. Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.SleeperDownload the Sleeper app and use promo code LOCKEDON and you'll get up to a $100 match on your first deposit. Terms and conditions apply. See Sleeper’s Terms of Use for details. Currently operational in over 30 states. Check out Sleeper today!FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jerry Depoto, Scott's service, and Justin Hollander conducted their end of season press conference on Tuesday afternoon. And it, well, it did not go well. Let's talk about it here on the Lockdown Marries podcast. Colby hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network. Your team every day.

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to check out the show. The link as well as our social accounts is in the description of this episode. So, all right, this is going to be a very interesting episode. Jerry DePoto, Scott's service, and Justin Hollander, as I said in the cold open,

had their end of season press conference on Tuesday afternoon. It's actually Tuesday night, that we're recording this. I really wanted to talk about this as soon as possible and get my thoughts out. So I convinced Colby to get on here with me and do it now, which I know he is very, very enthused about.

So I think I'll preface this by saying that most of this press conference was a giant nothing burger filled with your run-of-the-mill GM speak. And it had the opportunity to be just that. but Jerry said a few things that have garnered the attention of both the Mariners fan base and the national landscape and of course not for good reasons to put it lightly. This was a disaster of a press conference for the Mariners Press. It was a terrible work specifically for Jerry Napoto. So we're going to go through some of the key moments from it and give you our thoughts on all of it. And I think we should start by addressing the fact that this press conference wasn't streamed by the team, which is not normal for the Mariners.

They usually stream all their press conferences, but not this one. They cited the wild card games being on at the same time as the reason for not streaming, which, let's just say it, it's complete utter BS. So, Colby, I'll kick it to you. Your thoughts on this press conference, which, I mean, with the whole, thing about the streaming. I mean, this started out with bad vibes. Like this, wow. I have no words for it. Yeah. We could start with the fact that, you know, other teams were able to stream their oppressors today or yesterday, including, you know, like the angels, they were able to do it without issue and all that stuff. the idea that like you just couldn't do it any other time except for right at the start of the first playoff game is absurd some of you may know this but there's a thing in media called take out the trash day and essentially you take really bad news or news you don't want a lot of attention on and you dump it to the reporters on friday afternoon why because nobody reads the papers on saturday and there's less you know less people are paying attention on friday night than they would be it's called take out the trash right well that's kind of what the mariners did today they wanted as few eyes on this as possible

gee i wonder why and so they did it on a tuesday afternoon in the middle of the playoff game and they didn't live stream it well it's 2020 23 that doesn't work anymore everything you say is being recorded and distributed to somebody um so you can start with that absolute like any line they give you about like oh you know just poor planning on our oh this is the only time we do it BS pure BS don't believe them that was intentional also noticeably absent from the whole affair was John Stanton. The owner of the baseball team. He had the courage to not show up and to

roll his GM out there. And nobody loves to be in front of the camera more when other people are getting praised than John Stanton. Look at his speeches at the last two Hall of Fame inductions. Nobody hates being in front of reporters when there might be some difficult questions asked, less than John Stanton, who has never showed up to any of these things. Why?

Because he knows he can't control the atmosphere. he can't control the questioning. He's going to look bad if he shows up. So he doesn't because he's a coward. Well, and the one time he did it after the Kevin Mather's situation, it went very poorly for him. He refused to answer questions.

Very basic softball questions. Yeah. So, yeah, he's awful in front of the media, which means he just leaves Jerry to go out there and take all of his arrows for him because a lot of questions that were asked today should have been asked of the owner. Yep.

But the owner's not there. So guess who gets to be asked those questions? Jerry. And guess who is all. of a sudden very bad at answering these questions. Jerry, like, huh, that's so weird. But, uh, yeah, the thing was a disaster. It was intentionally, uh, not hidden per se, but it was intentionally, uh, placed to have the fewest amount of eyes on it. Yeah. Uh, the owner was notably absent after a disappointing year. Uh, the, the tone of the whole press conference was

kind of to defend the owner who wasn't present at the press conference. Uh, and a very bad performance by the guys on the podium, uh, got even worse when, when, you know, well, you guys probably heard all of it. It got even worse when Jerry started talking like, yeah, uh, it was a disaster class. Like, this was Anaheim Angels level bad, uh, PR by the Mariners. Uh, and you guys know I don't use that, uh, insult lightly. So yeah, uh, just a complete disaster class from. PR from, you know, from public speaking to communications, like across the board, absolute disaster for the Seattle Mariners, which, you know, honestly kind of fitting considering we had, well, we had to watch in September, just utter chaos and failure across the board. Yeah. Yeah, a very fitting end of season press conference after what we saw on the field. So across the board, just a complete utter disaster by the entire Seattle Mariners organization from top to bottom over the last month and show.

change. Yeah. You know us. Usually we don't really care about these press conferences. We don't care about quotes. We don't care about GM speak and all that stuff because we see through that. We've been around the block and then some with all this stuff. We were planning on talking about this press conference, mostly because we don't really have anything else to talk about because a certain baseball team didn't make the playoffs.

Right. But yeah, I didn't think it was going to be this. You're ungrateful, SOB. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, the Mariners are just doing us favors. What a ridiculous statement, which we're going to get to in just a few minutes here. But I'm just, I'm stunned by how bad this was. Stunned. Like, again, this could have been easily a just your run of the mill and this season press conference, bunch of GM speak like, hey, we're going to get better and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And we didn't do enough this season and blah, blah, blah. and it was really disappointing. And like they did say those things. Kind of. They did, you know. They danced around that idea. Jerry did own up to, you know, how poor the offseason went and all that stuff like he has in the past.

He did take accountability for some things, right, as you would like to see him do. And that would have been fine if he just left it at that. but he didn't. And he just kept talking and talking and talking and now like John Boy Media has it and is talking about it. It is on a national scale. This is, quite frankly, this is an embarrassment. And for us as a couple of podcasts hosts who really love the Seattle Mariners and have really liked what Jerry Depoto has done over the course of this rebuild and still do.

right? I mean, he and this rebuild are the reason, like the sole reason that you and I started podcasting together because you and I both really like what they were doing over the rebuild. We really believed in Jerry's vision and still do overall. Like there are still a lot of good things that. Maybe not the new vision. Maybe not the new vision and we'll get to that a little bit. But overall, like Jerry and his staff had done some great things, right? The drafting, the development, a lot of the trades, a lot of the players that they brought in. I mean, Jerry and his staff, they're the ones that built the team that ended the drought. We've been very appreciative of that, but this is an embarrassment, especially for

for us who have stuck up for this guy and stuck up for the staff time and time again and have tried to be fair, but I can't do this. This is indefensible. This is terrible. This is, it is laughable. It's really, really bad. It is the single worst thing that the Mariners have. have done to themselves in the entire depoto era.

And there's been some bad things. I mean, the mother thing was really bad. Yeah, but they handled that better than they handled this. They, they did. And Jerry and Scott specifically.

Yes. Yeah. Jerry and Scott specifically handled that way better than they handle this. They handled the Kyle Seeger mess perfectly. They handled the Mather mess pretty well. They even handle the Lorena Martin stuff pretty well. Yeah. This.

And this is the lowest stakes thing of all of that. I know. Like by far, this is a nothing. They literally could have just come up there, gave a couple of canned answers and left. Zero quotes and nobody would be talking about. I could do that. Like this is,

and any idiot can go up there and say the stuff that you need to say to not embarrass yourself in these type of situations. Any idiot can do it. This is the, this is the dumbest thing. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This was the easiest like PR disaster they could have averted. And this is the one that they just walked up there with a couple of canned responses and left. Yeah.

answer some questions. That's a simple world in the world. We're not even talking about the answer to the payroll questions. Like that is what we were planning on talking about tomorrow. I'm sure we're just going to be. Yeah, Jerry said, you know, yeah, we have plenty of room. Here's some, here's some injury updates. Yeah.

Let's get out of it. We were going to be talking about. But no, Jerry doubled down on stupid. Like, what are you doing? This is a layup. This is the easiest shot you've ever had to make. And you threw it backwards. What are you doing?

Why are you rolling the football backwards? This is a layup. This is. Oh my, oh my God. This is first and goal from the inch line. I. Any idiot can do this.

This is the victory formation, baby. Take your knee. Get out of here and get back to work. And they couldn't even do it. They couldn't execute that. How. What? Yeah.

Seriously. How do you fail? this bad. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. What is the proper response to this? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Seriously. Jerry DePoto, and this isn't going to make it better, but Jerry DePoto has to issue a retraction. Whenever he talks to the media again, he has to issue a retraction on a lot of this stuff. I'll get softball questions to do it on Thursday. I'm sure. He has to. He has to. Literally no way around this. This is a complete, this is a complete embarrassment. complete utter embarrassment I'm sorry man Jerry I respect a lot of the stuff that you have done over the course of your tenure in Seattle

but this ain't it this ain't it bro this was two plus two this was two plus two and the dude came up with fish what are we doing I don't mean to laugh because it is a very like serious thing I mean it's baseball at the end of the day but it's still like a serious thing and you know

as far as it can be but like it's so absurd It's so freaking absurd, and we're well over time here. We need to cut to our ad break, and we're going to get into more of this. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Locktime Airs podcast is brought to you by Fandall. Celebrate the start of the NFL season with great offers from Fandle, America's number one sportsbook. Right now, new customers can bet $5 and get $200 back and bonus bets guaranteed. Plus, all customers who bet $5 will get $100 off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV.

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to Potta. Like Scott and Justin, like they were just whatever. They did their thing. They did whatever we, they did what we expected. I, I have not seen a single quote from Scott Service. I didn't watch the thing. I didn't see a quote. Nobody quoted Scott's.

There's a way to watch the whole thing. Well, yeah, exactly. But nobody quoted Scott's service. Gee, I wonder why. Because he's the only sane person up there. I saw one Hollander quote. I saw like one, I saw zero service quotes. I saw like 80 depoto quotes.

Only one of them was like decently good where he took some accountability for the off season. The rest of them were like, that's not how you want to word that. And then there were two that were like, what are you doing? Yeah. This was word vomit to the fullest degree.

And then some beyond that broke the scale. With the word vomit. like 80 great stupidity this is the dictionary definition of putting your foot in your mouth like figure your own grave this should whatever this should be studied

oh I'm sure it will this should be studied every every communications class across the country should play this and say don't ever do this this is like an this is like an episode of curbier enthusiasm like they should play

the music yeah I mean This is this is this is like a Michael Scott like Apology video yes yes yes yes this was Michael Scott 24 hours Like to do what? Yeah Jerry to put it went full Michael Scott today Wow Wow uh all right

I'm laughing through the pain folks I'm on the inside I'm hurting on the inside I'm hurting from this. This sucks. This is terrible. Let's just play the clip of the quote that's going around, that's making the rounds, that's getting national attention at this point as we record here on Tuesday night

from Jerry Napoto talking about something. I don't even, I still haven't made sense of it. If you go back and you look in a decade, those teams that win 54% of the time always wind up in the postseason, and they more often than not wind up in World Series. So there's your bigger picture process. Nobody wants to hear the goal this year is we're going to win 54% of the time. Because sometimes 54% is one year you're going to win 60%, another year you're going to win 50%.

You know, it's whatever it is. But over time, that type of mindset gets you there. If what you're doing is focusing year to year on what do we have to be. have to do to win the World Series this year. You might be one of the teams that's laying in the mud and can't get up for another decade. So we're actually doing the fan base a favor and asking for their patience to win the World Series while we continue to build a sustainably good roster.

What? All right. I've listened to that clip maybe 10 times now at this point. It's been a few hours since it came out, since it started making the rounds. I have no idea what the hell he's talking about. Like, it doesn't make sense. This reeks of a person that has done too many mental gymnastics on the behalf of John Stanton that he's completely lost the plot.

Like, none of what he said made sense just now. Like, okay, I get wanting to build a sustainable product. Totally on board with that. Great. Awesome. I get that there's ebbs and flows in baseball season by season. And there's unpredictability with all of that. Totally.

And maybe you'll miss the playoffs here and there when you didn't plan on that. But why would you word it like that? What are you doing? And obviously the favor comment, right? We'll get into the 54% thing because that's really the big issue. I know a lot of people are taking an issue with the favor comment, but really the 54% thing is what everyone should be taking issue with here. Do you want us a favor with what?

What is the favor? What is the favor? What are you talking about? Well, thanks to Jerry to Pototai, we will never know last week of September where you're not fighting for your playoff lives, not the division, just the playoffs. That's what do you want, yeah.

We're never going to have an easy September because we clinched two weeks early. That's what you're thankful for. That was Michael Scott, right? Michael Scott has that quote about how he, uh, sometimes I start a sentence and I have no idea where it's going. I just hope to find it along the way. Exactly. That's exactly what he did.

Exactly. That's exactly what that was. I am stunned by how stupid that is. Stunt. jaw on the floor. When I first saw that jaw on the floor, dude, that makes no sense. Yeah, sometimes I'll start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going. I just hope to find it along the way.

Yep. For a guy who we know is smart, we know Jerry's a relatively smart guy. Absolutely. We know that he's usually very good with the media. And, you know, he's very clear about his messaging and all that stuff. He picked a really bad day to turn into Michael Scott because it was. Oh, man. That's like, that's like if Michael told Jim, you're lucky I pay your salary.

Like you should be grateful that I'm doing you a favor of paying you your salary. Like what, what? What are we talking about here, man? Colby and I in this situation, we're Scott's tots. We're expected to get our, our college paid for. And instead we get laptop batteries. Today we got laptop batteries. We didn't even get that.

I don't know if familiar with the scene of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. where King Arthur goes up to the castle and the French guys are guarding it and they're and they're just talking mad smack from the top of the castle. It was like I spit in your general direction or whatever. Like it was like that today. That was Jerry's attitude towards the fan base today.

Just a disaster. Now I know we got to get to our third segment. And there is somebody here that I want to make sure we include in this parade of stupidity. Let's call it. Sure. But yeah, I'll just, I'll wait. I'll wait next and you'll find out who,

somehow this all isn't this isn't Jerry's fault not all of it at least and I'll tell you whose fault it really is coming up very very nice tease there by one mr. Colby Pat node the man in the shadows if you will but before we get into that first a reminder this episode of the locked on Maris podcast is brought to you by bird dogs there is nothing in this world that's more comfortable than a pair of shorts from bird dogs coming in a variety of colors with breathable stretching fabric and built-in underwear, bird dog shorts are perfect for going to the movies, hiking your favorite trail, just chilling on the couch watching football. In fact, they're perfect for recording a podcast then. Trust me, I would know. And not only do they have a wide selection

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making us your first listen wow uh this has been a full mask off episode this is completely unhinged um but for good reason for good reason because my my brain's broken

folks my brain is mush and so was Jerry to Potos apparently. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. How stupid is all of this? All right. Colby.

Whose fault is this really? John Stan. And it's not close. Let's be clear about this. Jerry shouldn't have made the comment. He shouldn't have made the 54% comment. He shouldn't have said you should be thanking us. We still need to get into that.

Right. We did you a favor. Like none of that. That is totally on. He's stupid for saying that. But if that is indeed his philosophy, then John Stanton is still the one to blame because he signed off on that. And he did it again.

Because if John Stanton cared about doing better than that, he would fire Jerry to Poto. Because he just said it publicly. Our goal is to win 88 games a year. That's it. And if John Stant had a problem with it, he would have been there or he would have said he would have gone on the radio. Guarantee you, John Stan picks up 710.

and says, I want to come on, I want to address this. They're going to put them on the radio, guaranteed. Fact, 950, it doesn't matter. He'd call any radio station in the state, and they would put them on. Of course they would. This is John Stan's philosophy, though. I don't even think this is Jerry's philosophy. I think this is Stan's philosophy.

And I'll tell you why I think that. Because this is pretty much the exact same thing Kevin Mather said a couple years ago, when he said that the Mariners goal, our goal, is to win 85 games a year, perennial perennial be like in the race in the mix every once in a while every couple years we'll get a little lucky the stars will align will win 90 games we'll sneak into the playoffs and we'll be good enough that people will still come to the ballpark no matter what that is our that is our goal that is our goal is our goal is to win 85 games is to be relevant without being so good that we have to spend more and more money to keep it up that's the goal boy you know who's a really good friends with kevin mather Stanton. You know who doesn't care about Kevin Mather? Jerry DePoto. So why is it the same philosophy? What's the common link here between the two philosophies? Oh, it's John Stanton. Yeah. This is John Stanton's fault. Yeah. Even if it's not, even if John Stanton calls Jerry tomorrow and be like, that was stupid. Our goal is not 254% of the time. Yeah, it's too late. He said it. He said it publicly. So if you really cared, you would either get on the radio and say, nope, nope, that is not our goal. Or you would clarify

what that goal is. Like, you know, yeah, we know some years we're going to win 84 because things not going to go our way. But our real goal is to win 90 to 95 every year, blah, blah, blah. And then we just know that that's going to over a 10-year stretch, that's going to even out to 54%. Like, you either make that or you fire Jerry to Poto because your goal is not to win 54% of your games. Your goal is to win a World Series. At least that's what you've told us. Was that BS?

I'm thinking it might be. So once again, John, you're a coward. Feel free to come on the show. Anytime you want. Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. Have your people contact my people. Yep. We're not going to lobby softballs.

Yeah. Guarantee you that, but you couldn't show up for this. This thing wasn't even televised and you couldn't show up for it. I still can't get over that. It's like they knew. It's like they knew this was going to happen. Oh my God.

All right. So I want to. Yeah, mine too. Mine too. I'm right there with you, pal. All right. So I want to address a couple. things before we get into the 54%

thing and then we'll we'll get out of here we'll get out of your hair um wow uh so jerry de potto said quote we didn't reach the heights we anticipated reaching it was disappointing in the end but it was a step forward for us no the hell it wasn't nope no the hell it wasn't yes you you got

great years out of folio and and jp you saw individual step forward or steps forward you saw the arrivals of Brian Wu and Bryce Miller I totally get that aspect of it. But to call this season in general a step forward is ridiculous. Ridiculous.

It's a lie, frankly. It's a lie. This was an abject failure. You said that the goal was to win the division and to compete for a world series. You verbatim, I remember listening to your radio hits and you saying that verbatim. And all the marketing going into the season, was next up, got to win the division,

got to win the World Series. There was the whole like Scott service checking off the box thing. We ended the drought and blah, blah, blah, we built the core and now we've added to it and it's going to be better than ever.

And watch out. So this is a fail. This is a failure. You failed to meet your goals. And therefore it is a failure of a season, especially with how the first half went, with how September went. You failed.

You failed. Just call it what it is. You failed. This season was a failure. Yep. And this is where I'll give Jerry his only bit of like, good job. Good job. He acknowledged that he failed in the offseason.

Yep. Yep. I failed. I didn't do a good enough job. And that's part of the reason we fell short. All right. Cool. I appreciate that.

Yeah, you said that twice now. You said the deadline also. Well, Hollander said the deadline was a bit of a failure. After the deadline. Cool. It's nice here you say those things. I mean, that's what you should say. That's what you should say.

I want you to say that. It doesn't make it better. And your major league team failed, that's a failure. And by the way, one of the other hidden dumb things that was said is like, oh, yeah, well, we only miss the division by a game. And so it's not a disaster of a season. That is the disaster. That is the disaster. That you were one game away from winning the division and you couldn't get it done.

And that you had it all in front of you. You had it all in front of you. That is the disaster. So if you want to if you want to like nitpick like, well, I wouldn't say it was a disaster. I would say it was maybe a step back year or maybe it, you know, it wasn't, we didn't achieve our goals. And it's not like it wasn't a successful year. And it's not like you were amidst five other teams for the last wild card. You had a chance at the division and a first round buy.

You were two wins away from a first round by where you and I, Colby, would be on the show right now, talking about this disaster or a press conference, but instead talking about, do you start Logan Gilbert? Do you start George Curry? Do you start Luis Castillo in game one of the ALDS? What do you do? Who would you rather,

you know, facing the ALDS? It's almost like this season was such a disaster that Jerry's like, I need to get people to stop talking about the month of September by any means necessary. So watch me work. Because if that was his goal,

he succeeded. He knocked out of the park. I would be watching the wild card round right now thinking about what team I would rather face in the ALDS instead of talking about this nonsense at 11.59 p.m. at night. This was missing

the game by the playoffs by one game Jerry the division by one. That is the disaster. That is that's not what prevented it for being a disaster. That is the disaster. That is the problem. Congratulations. You almost found it. You almost arrived at the point. And yet

somehow you missed it by a mile. What, what do you do it? You air ball to lay up. I just, wow. There is so much stupidity. Yeah.

Coming out of today's presser. Yeah. Again, basically by one guy. Scott didn't do any of this. Justin didn't do any of this. I don't know if Jerry just trying to take the, like, hey, look at me. Jerry, what rogue? Wild card.

I don't. I don't get it. I just I can't, like, I just can't fathom. Yeah. The level of stupidity from somebody who is, as we know, typically a smart, thoughtful, well-spoken individual who has always been very good at handling the media for the most part. Who's been very dedicated to his plan. He acknowledges mistakes. He doesn't, you know, he typically doesn't sugarcoat things relative to other GMs. The problem that Jerry has run into with how open he's, been is that, you know, some fans expect him to be open and entirely honest about everything. But there's still a line. He won't cross. And when he doesn't, you know, it comes off as insincere,

which, I mean, it is, right? But also, that's not abnormal for baseball execs. But that's kind of the corner that he's painted himself into with how transparent he's been in the past. my advice to Jerry Depoto and he's not going to take it and he doesn't care at all what I have to say he's probably not even listening to this whatever

but my advice to him is maybe dial it back on the radio appearances on the media appearances from here on out it seems like you you're wearing down like again this reeks of someone that has done so many mental gymnastics

on behalf of John Stanton that he's just completely lost the plot. But I just, I, there's a quote from, uh, Thomas Jefferson, uh,

or maybe it said to, uh, maybe it said to Thomas Jefferson. That basically amounts to like there are one million, 300 that there's over one million words in the English language. And there aren't enough of them for me to describe how badly I want to hit you in the back of the head with his chair. that's how I feel about Jerry to photo right now.

Like, I just, I, I, I, I don't possess the ability to string together enough words to say this any other way then. For the love of God, man, shut the hell up. So stop talking. So 54% before we get out of here, 54%. That's 88 weds, which is what you had this year. that didn't get you in the playoffs so what are you talking about most teams that finish a 54% get into the playoffs

and most teams end up winning the World Series what are you talking about that is nonsense there's no logic there yeah to read the quote exactly there are approximately 1,10,300 words

in the English language but I could never string enough words together to properly express how much I want to hit you with a chair. Everything about that statement was ridiculous. Absolutely from our goal is to win 54%. You know, teams that won 54% win the World Series. They always go to the playoffs,

even though you literally did that this year and you didn't accomplish either of those things. That fan should be thanking you and blah, blah, blah. Every single word of that statement is just, some of these stupidest word vomit I have ever heard in my entire life. Think about the ineptitude of the Seattle Mariners and their entire franchise's history. Yeah. Yeah.

And that somehow ranks up there with some of these stupidest stuff. We have ever heard, spewed from any Seattle Mariner, player, coach, GM, front office exec, secretary, secretary, you know, usher, whatever. Whatever. That's way up there. Like, Mariners team store attendant. Like ball girl clubhouse attendant whatever. Yes. And I think all of those people would have told Jerry, hey, don't say that.

No. Yeah. Yeah. Don't need to say that one. I hope somewhere. Kevin Martinez is in the back going, oh my God, somebody pull the plug on this. Pull, yank the cord out of his mic. Like, no, like in the throw a shoe at him so he'll stop talking for the love of God.

And he just kept on going and going. And it's just like. It's, yeah. It almost doesn't feel. I got nothing else to say. Yeah. It almost doesn't feel real.

How bad it was. It feels like a prank. I feel like I'm getting pranked right now. I feel like I'm like that. What? God. My, again,

my brain is broken. Yeah, we could sit here for another hour and a half, just trashing this, but we do have to go. So, We do have to go. But 54% is stupid.

55%. Okay, I can kind of get on board with that because that's at least 90 wins. But your goal should be 60 to 62%. Because that's 98 to 100 wins. Yep. That should absolutely be your goal. Your goal, like, or if you say like our goal is to never in an individual season, finish below winning 54% of our games.

But obviously our goals are higher than that. Like, okay. Sure. But you didn't say that. You didn't say that. You said your goal is to win 54% every year. You said that. And you even acknowledge that no one wanted to hear that.

And then you had that little. You knew what you were about to say. And then you had that little nervous laugh after the whole favor thing because you know that it's stupid. You recognize how absurd it is. It just came out of your mouth. So I doubt we're ever going to get Jerry back on this podcast. But if we did, I think this would be our first question. I think it's a fair one.

And maybe you guys let us know how you think you would answer it. What do you honestly believe Seattle Mariner fans deserve from you and the club? Yeah. Yeah. What do they deserve? Yeah. Because you're going to tell me they deserve 54% win percentage every year. Yeah. Get the hell out.

Yeah. You know, look, I'll say this. And yeah, he's probably never coming back on this show. But he probably wasn't coming back on the show after what happened after the trade deadline, what I said after the trade deadline, which whatever. I don't, I don't care. the end of the day. I've told you guys that I just care about winning. I don't like I would love to get you know Jerry back on the show and I would love to get the players on the show and all that

stuff. But at the end of the day, I'm just a guy on the internet who loves to talk about his favorite baseball team and I just want my favorite baseball team to win. And if they do something I disagree with, I'm going to call that out just like today. This was utterly embarrassing. That said, you know, I still respect what Jerry Depoto has done for the most part over his tenure in Seattle. I still appreciate what he's been, what he and his staff have built in Seattle and throughout the entire organization.

I still believe in that vision as a whole. But this stuff, no, I can't defend this. Because if you didn't believe all that, Ty, we would have spent the last 30 minutes saying, fire this clown. Yeah. Of course we would have. Yeah.

But thankfully, his track record and the job he has done allows him this this little and most people aren't going to agree with that yeah i don't care i don't you know whatever that's a whole another discussion that's a whole other podcast please right right but that that's like potentially control his own podcast right right there you go we can talk about that but yeah man this this we're not hitting 40 minutes go All right, this sucked. This sucked. And Jerry, you need to, you need to issue your attraction.

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