Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mailbag: Haniger's Future, J.P. at Leadoff and More

Episode Date: October 11, 2021

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode kick off their offseason slate with the premiere of "Mailbag Monday," answering your questions on Mitch Haniger's future in Seattle, J.P. Crawford being the le...adoff hitter in 2022, how much money the Mariners will spend this winter and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to Locked-on Mariners. Your home for Daily Seattle Mariner's News and Analysis, thank you so much for making us your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all platforms. Today is Monday, October 11th, 2021. I am your host, Tidane Gonzalez, joined as always by my co-host, Colby Patnode.
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Starting point is 00:01:00 we're kicking off our off-season. schedule beginning with mailbag monday gotten a few questions from you guys on twitter we're going to answer as many as we can on this episode if you like what you hear give the show a follow or subscribe wherever you're listening to this we'd greatly appreciate it so let's start with a question here from a j allen he's followed us for quite some time uh over at control the zone and uh true to the treadin.com. I believe he also won one of our giveaways once. He's at AJ Allen PDX
Starting point is 00:01:34 and he says, I have a feeling we are going to get a Marco Gonzalez for Tyler O'Neill type trade where we trade a pitching prospect for an MLB ready bat. What do you think a trade like that would look like? I was thinking Emerson Hancock for Gavin Lux. He also wants our thoughts
Starting point is 00:01:52 on buying Kevin Kiermeier's contract for the 2022 season. So let's start with this Hancock for Lux deal. What do you think about that, Colby? I think it's a pretty creative offer. I think it's a fun one to think about, but ultimately I don't think this is something the Dodgers would do.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Same. Simply because Lux is a middle infielder. And middle infield, you know, while pitching is extremely invaluable, Dodgers are pretty good in the starting pitching department. In addition, you know, the Dodgers may lose Corey Seeger. and Chris Taylor, there's going to be a spot open for Lux. I like Lux a lot. You'd be a great player, a great addition,
Starting point is 00:02:35 and I would do this deal if we're up to me. But I think the Dodgers are probably not going to be all that interested in Hancock, at least for Lux. In general, could they be? Sure. But I just, I don't think, I don't think Lux is the right guy to fill this role. It's possible. And if it is, I would be totally fine with this deal.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But in addition, I, I think if you're the Mariners, even if you're Jerry Depoto, based on what Topoto has said, I think you're probably, if you're going to trade Hancock, you're also looking for somebody with a little more track record, right? Somebody who is, you know, like, I just, I don't think this trade is going to work out for either side. Like I said, I would love for it to be the case. Lux was pretty solid this year for his first, first real extended look at the big
Starting point is 00:03:28 leagues. But I think if you're Jerry, you want somebody more solidified as an everyday big leaguer. Right. And if you're the Dodgers, you might need Lux to be your second baseman next year. And you have a lot of pitching already. So you're probably better off just looking elsewhere. But I do like the idea. Yeah, I just don't think that's, yeah, I don't think the Dodgers are in quite that position to do a trade like that right now. Obviously, you know, they got a bit of a 40 man roster crunch and all that good stuff. But even then, um, I don't think. that they're going to move off Lux for starting pitching prospect when they have plenty of that right now.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But it's an interesting idea. And like you, I would certainly be in favor of doing that as well. I would absolutely pull the trigger on that. But, you know, I also get what you're saying with, from Jerry's standpoint, why trade Emerson Hancock for another possible question mark when probably use Hancock to get you something more established, something that you can put a little more. more stock into. He also asked about Kevin Kiermeyer, I mentioned.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So what do you think about the possibility of going after Karemarer? We've talked about this a little bit here. So we'll keep it quick. But I know you floated the idea about possibly trading you say Kikuchi for Kiermire. That would be basically a one-for-one contract swap in terms of the money. I think the raise would take on like. 750,000 more, something. But what do you think about
Starting point is 00:05:03 Kierremyer for the Mariners? Yeah, I like Kiermeier. He's a fun player. Gold Glove caliber center fielder, one of the best in the game, really fast and not as bad at the plate as people think. He's still below average, but, I mean, considering what the Mariners ran out there for large chunks of the season in their outfield,
Starting point is 00:05:24 slightly below average is not the worst thing in the world. So I like Keirmeyer, the player. Again, I think if you're, if you're Jerry, you're looking for offense. And Keirmeier, not really the guy to give it to you,
Starting point is 00:05:39 although he did finish the year as a 101 WRC plus guy a year before he was 94. So he is about average at the plate and obviously plus to plus plus in the outfield. So I'm fine with it, but if you're not upgrading offensively in single, field, it's one less spot for you to upgrade offensively.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So if Keirmeyer is, you know, if you bring in a great third basement in a really good, let's say, left fielder, just hypothetically, and Keirmeyer is most, you just need Keirmeier to be a glove and fringe average bat, then that's, that's fine. But if you want Keirmeier to come in and be like an offense, offensive stalwart, or you think you can improve Kevin Keirmeier's bat, I think that's a bad idea. So all comes down to the price. and what it's going to take to get him. He does have a club option for 2023.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But yeah, at the right price, I'm interested in Kiermire, as long as other bats are added in, I mean, well above average batch. Sure. Sure. You know, I think that's kind of a foregone conclusion there. But yeah, the, I like the idea of Kierremyer, you know, you and I have talked about the value of adding more or upgrading your outfield defense this offseason.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So I would be very much in favor of doing that, especially when Kiermire probably isn't going to cost you a huge asset to acquire because you are taking on that contract. And honestly, I would be all in favor of trading you say Kikuchi for him because that's possibly a guy that you're wanting to move on from anyway. You're certainly not going to pick up his club option for the four years. So if you can move on from Kikuchi, if that's what you want to do and get Karamire out of that,
Starting point is 00:07:27 I would be all for that. So let's move on to another question here from Nat Lang at Nat Ling. That's L-A-N-G-E-34. Takeaways from Jerry DePoto's press conference earlier this week. Are you more or less confident that Mariners will have a good off-season after hearing it? About the same, really. I think the understanding of what this off-season is going to be has been pretty clear that they need to invest,
Starting point is 00:07:55 that they need to invest in this team. They had a lot of success in 2021 and have to build on that. There's really no excuse to wait and see on anything else. They need to start going for it a little bit here. But yeah, so there was nothing that Depoto said or really could have said that would have shifted my feelings one way or another.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He, you know, it was mostly just GM speak. He addressed the payroll, said that he has been approved for a significant uptick and payroll. So that's, you know, that's all good and fine to hear. And, you know, and that's what the case should be, giving the success that they had this year and where they are in the rebuild. But yeah, I'm just, I'm pretty much where I was a month ago, two months ago, heading into this off season as I am now. What about you, Colby? Yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm about the same. You know, it's, it's been my belief that really since July, or even sooner, that next year's roster will be significantly better than this year's roster. Doesn't mean they're going to win more games. No, not necessarily. But talent-wise, they're going to add significant talent, you know, whether that's through free agency or trade. Who knows? So I still think the Mariners are going to have a very aggressive offseason. Whether it's good or not, that's going to be, you know, in the eyes of the holder.
Starting point is 00:09:23 but it's going to be exciting. They're going to get significantly better, and that's really what you want. So even if you don't love all the moves they make, I have a hard time imagining you're going to look at it at the end of the winter and say, oh, they didn't get better. They're going to get better. I'm very confident in that.
Starting point is 00:09:40 So yeah, I'm with tie. It's about the same. It's about what I would have expected him to say more or less. And yeah, I'm right where I am. I'm very excited. And I think the offseason is going to be really fun. and I feel very confident in saying the roster will be better than it was this year. All right.
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Starting point is 00:10:52 You're listening to Lockdown Mariners. Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day. Every day. We are free and available on all platforms. Let's get back into the questions here on Mailbag Monday, starting with at Cameron L. O'Brien, who asks, how much money do you really think the Mariners are willing to spend? Do you think we would move back to around 180 million payroll
Starting point is 00:11:13 and maybe bring in two big names? So this is a question that I assume we're probably going to get a lot. lot of this off season. And our answer is going to remain the same. We've we talked about this a little bit on Friday that it doesn't matter what specific dollar amount the Mariners get to as long as they build a ball club that's complementary to what they've already built and is able to build upon the success that they had this year. You need to get better. And there are many ways to get better without spending an exuberant amount of money as well. It doesn't, again, It doesn't matter what specific dollar figure you get to.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I'm going to use the same example I used on Friday. We've had a bunch of questions about signing Max Scherzer, who would be in line for $40 to $45 million. And we've even had a couple people say to us on Twitter, well, just give Scher whatever he wants to convince him to come to Seattle. Well, here's the proposition that I have. Marcus Simeon is a free agent, right? he's probably at most going to get 30 million
Starting point is 00:12:20 AAV per year you get him and again this is a complete hypothetical here probably would not happen but just talking about value wise you get you get Marcus Simeon for 30 million dollars he's been one of the best hitters in baseball this year
Starting point is 00:12:39 then you go trade for Jose Ramirez to be your third baseman who's only making $13 million this year so you spend some prospects and less money than you would pay for a Max Scherzer to get two perennial MVP candidates. Again, I don't think that's going to happen, but that's just an example of how you can build an amazing baseball team without getting to a certain amount of payroll. So, yeah. So my advice to Mariners fans everywhere, if you're listening to this, do not worry about how much money the Mariners are spending. worry about the talent, the quality of talent that they're bringing in.
Starting point is 00:13:18 That's all that matters here. They build a great baseball team. It doesn't matter how much money they spent to do it. And if they do spend a ton of money to do it, then great. But if not, as long as they build a really good baseball team that's able to be better than this one and get back to 90 wins or over, hopefully, and compete for a division, then nothing else matters. To answer the question directly, Yeah, they're not going to get to $180 million.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Not this year. Maybe in the future, sure, but we don't know. And like Ty said, it doesn't matter. Just go get good players. Whatever you spend is what you spend. You know, we know Jerry has said that he's been given the green light to add significantly to this year's payroll, which was about $85 million.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So, you know, right now as things sit, he's going to be at about $50 million dollars when you add in the minimum guys and the ARB guys 50 to 60 so you know it depends on what the what the definition of significantly is to 85 but right there you already have about 30 million dollars just to get back to this year's level and then add significantly to that whatever you think significantly is sure maybe but it's it's not going to be 180 so yeah but again don't worry about what the final payroll is just look at the hall they bring in and and if it's good then who cares if they spent $100 million or $40 million.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Who cares? And to continue answering that question directly, you can get two big names without getting to $180. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, you are so far off from that. Sticking with my example here of Jose Ramirez, we actually got a Jose Ramirez question. Malik's Ledbetter 15 on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He asked, Jose Ramirez trade compensation. What do you think it will take to get Jose Ramirez from Cleveland there, Colby? Oh, boy. That's really tough to say. Cleveland's kind of a weird team because they don't always trade guys when they should see, you know, Francisco Lindor. And when they do trade guys, and they've made some big trades, that they've traded Lindor, they've traded Bowers. They've traded Clevenger, right?
Starting point is 00:15:36 So they've made some big trades like this recently. And they always seem to get, I don't want to say quantity over quality, because they do get good pieces. But they rarely maximize the top level return that they get very rarely. Usually it's, hey, we could get this 60 grade prospect as a headliner. But instead, let's get two 52s and a 50s and a 50. And let's really do that. And so that's always something you have to consider. But Ramirez has two years of club control left.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He's an MVP candidate. So I don't know. It's really tough to say what he's going to get. I can tell you for a fact that Cleveland likes George Kirby. Do I think the Mariners are going to trade George Kirby? No, I don't. But Cleveland would like him. But what Seattle might be able to do is they might be able to say,
Starting point is 00:16:32 well, we're not going to give you Kirby, but what if we gave you, hypothetically, Hancock and Kyle Lewis, right? Williamson, Kyle Lewis. Yeah, I mean, you know, DePot, one of the few interesting things DePoto actually said at his presser is that they're treating Kyle Lewis as whatever he gives them is a bonus. So they're not building a roster where Kyle Lewis is going to be relied upon. Now, does this mean that they're giving up on Kyle Lewis? No, I don't think they are. But does it mean that maybe they're willing to trade him?
Starting point is 00:17:03 knowing they have Julio coming up, liking what they saw from Kelnick in September, knowing that they have, you know, they have all this money to spend and they're probably going to add at least one good outfielder to it. They might. They might trade Kyle Lewis.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And that's a player that Cleveland would really like because he's young, controllable, and he's got major league seasoning. So when you start thinking about that, it's kind of tough to say, like, I don't like, would they want,
Starting point is 00:17:27 Noel V Marte? Maybe. But they haven't shown that that's the guy they want. They want the guys who are close to the big leagues or have big league experience already. So maybe it is Emerson Hancock, Kyle Lewis, and Luis Turenz, plus, you know, a couple of decent prospects.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Or maybe they do want Emerson Hancock and Noel B. Marte. Or maybe they hold strong and say, we want George Kirby. At which point, I don't know if Seattle's going to do that. So that's if he's available at all. Cleveland is so weird. It's really hard to dial down what they're going to want for Jose Ramirez
Starting point is 00:17:55 because literally you could tell me anything, and I would say, I could see them asking for that. so it's just you got to also think about guys like Abraham Toro Luis Torenz you know as just additional pieces to that obviously they're not going to be the leading men
Starting point is 00:18:09 in a trade package for Jose Ramirez but those are guys that you could potentially see in a in a package for him because that's just kind of what they've targeted in the past I mean just like you said you know just look at the Francisco Lendor deal you know
Starting point is 00:18:25 and the Andres Jimenez and Ahmed Rosario and all that what they were able to get from from New York and what they were able to get from San Diego and the Mike Clevenger deal and all that. They just, they're a weird team to really hammer down. I do think that they're going to look at trading Jose Ramirez, though. I just, with where they are right now, they're on a decline. They were just kind of, you know, mediocre this year, kind of the model of mediocrity this year.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Had some injuries, of course. But that seems like a team that could use maybe a, at least a soft. reboot, which they pretty much already began when they traded Lundor this off or last offseason. But we'll see how that turns out. We're going to wrap up the rest of the questions in just a moment. We got about three left to answer. But real quick, I want to remind you this episode of Lockdown Mariners is also brought to you by Bilt Bar.
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Starting point is 00:20:00 importantly, healthy. Go to build.com and use promo code locked 15 and you'll get 15% off your order. That's LOC, KED-15 for 15% off your order at built.com. All right. Let's kick off this last trio of questions with Jason Mack on Twitter at J. Michael Mack. He asked, what do you think Mitch Hanigur's future is with the Seattle Mariners? And what do you think is the answer at Catcher as well? So right now, I'm operating another
Starting point is 00:20:31 the assumption that Mitch Hanager is going to be back next year. I think with the way that this season ended, and again, if you trade Mitch Hanager, unless you get something really appealing in a trade offer for him, that's just going to be another hole that you have to fill if you deal him away. So probably don't want to create that.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Mitch Hanigar, obviously, really good hitter. Probably should be dehing more after seeing his defense or lack there of in right field this year. But yeah, I would say that Mitch Hanager is going to be in a Mariners uniform on opening day next March. Yeah, I would agree with that. Again, Mitch is a frustrating guy to watch because it's pretty clear how to get him out. You know, he chases the slider away a lot. He chases fastballs and off the plate a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And it seems like he really sold out for power. and to his credit, it worked. He had 39 home runs. But he's still putting up enough on base skills, and that really did seem to improve. I thought his play discipline improved in September. So maybe there's a chance he can get back to it, maybe not his 360 on base guy,
Starting point is 00:21:45 but can it be 335, 340 instead of 320? That would help a lot. And so if that's who he did, but if this is who he is next year, which we'll see, that's still a, you know, a 120 WRC plus guy. That's a really solid bat. And so you can trade him, but then you have to replace him on top of adding,
Starting point is 00:22:04 you know, probably at least three average to above average bats to make this offense anywhere near, you know, average even. So it just makes sense to keep him unless you're trading him as part of a trade package to get an ace or maybe, I don't know, Jose Ramirez. Like maybe they won a year of handker and that can soften the blow. Then, okay, fine. because you're trading Hanneger for a better bat. But short of getting a true number two
Starting point is 00:22:31 or getting a significant upgrade over Hanager in a Hanager trade, just keep them, dh him, put him in right field occasionally and have him hit fifth, you know, fourth or fifth, and you're probably in pretty good shape. So Jason also wants to know, what do you think the answer is at Catcher?
Starting point is 00:22:50 So Tom Murphy right now, heading into arbitration. We've heard some things. he might get non-tendered. So we'll see how that turns out. I would think that there might be a little bit of trade interest for Tom Murphy out there as well. There would be some teams that could certainly use him. So I don't know what exactly you would be able to get for him.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Scott's service interestingly went out of his way to mention Luis Torenz as a part of the plan at Catcher. So it seems like they're going to give that another go, even though he didn't really do that once he got called back up from AAA. he was terrible behind the plate before his before his demotion to AAA but and obviously we had heard from from Jason Churchill who tweeted that Terenz didn't want nor likes
Starting point is 00:23:42 catching so interesting to see how that'll play out but I think you need to get him in a position if you want him to hit because they want to have if you want to get his bat in the lineup because they want to have some flexibility at DH. Jerry DePoto mentioned that during the presser as well. So Colby, you know, we've been on the bandwagon, if you will, of adding at least one catcher this off season.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I honestly like the idea of adding two major league quality catchers instead of, you know, relying on trends to figure it out behind the plate and Cal Raleigh to figure it out at the plate. You know, I think you can do better than Tom Murphy. but what do you see happening at the catcher position over the next few months? I think what's most likely to happen is they're going to keep Murphy, and then they're going to sign a veteran. I like Yon Goams.
Starting point is 00:24:39 There are a few other guys out there who could make some sense as well. And then I think it's Raleigh, you know, back to AAA. And once he wins that spot again, then they can look to trading Murphy because catchers are always in demand, even, you know, mediocre ones. like Tom Murphy. Sure. Murphy can hit lefties. He gets pretty decent defensively, so except at the tag play for some reason.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So, yeah, I think that's the role here. You go with two vets, and then you have Terenz as, you know, on the bench, if you don't trade them as kind of a D.H, play some first, play a little third, and maybe catch once a a week just to get the bat in the lineup. So I think that's what we're going to look at. If not that, then I think they might just go with like a Yon Gomes, trade Murphy, and then just have Terence catch once or twice a week and just, you know, until Raleigh's ready. But Cal Raleigh should not be on the opening day roster next year.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yes, I agree with that. 100%. All right, let's move on to our next question from one of my more favorite followers on Twitter. At H. Depoto, aka Harry Depoto. Get it. Yes. Will the Mariners still have the best farm system after this winter? Short answer, probably not because I think trades are still going to be a pretty big part of this offseason for the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Obviously, they got all this money and stuff, but Jerry Depoto is going to look for value on the trade market. And that's the best way to get value, to maximize value is through the trade market. And so, you know, obviously baseball America considers the Mariners farm system to be the best in baseball. And I don't think that's going to last very long over the next couple. months. I think you're going to see some of the better prospects in that farm
Starting point is 00:26:31 head elsewhere. Obviously not all of them. I think you're still going to have Julio Rodriguez, George Kirby, Harry Ford, potentially, Noel V. Marte. You know, those guys are still going to be around, I believe. But I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:26:47 be surprised to see Emerson Hancocko. I wouldn't be surprised to see Martego as well. if the deal is right, guys like Zach the Loach, etc. I could see being moved this winter. What about you, Colby? Yeah, I would agree. Probably not, but the long answer is, who cares if they are or they aren't?
Starting point is 00:27:08 They're not going to go from number one to dead last. So what's the difference if they're first or of their eighth? Don't you trust them in the international market? Because they're apparently getting ready to sign two super studs in the international. market who are probably going to be number one in the system, even ahead of Julio, would be number one if they would sign before Julio came to the big leagues. That doesn't seem like that's going to be the case. And don't you trust them in the draft?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Been pretty good at it for the last couple of years now. So, yeah, it's who cares if they go from one to ten because they're going to replenish and the major league team is going to get better. And that's kind of the point. No, I don't think they'll have the best farm system, but I also could not care less if they do or don't. It's cool. Don't get me wrong. It is cool to see a team go from worst farm system to best farm system in what three years. But there's a reason why that mattered and it's for trades. It's to make your major league team better and they have a shot
Starting point is 00:28:08 to do it. So do it. Yeah, Lazara Montez and Felon and Celeste in the two international guys that are reportedly going to be signing with them in the next couple of international signing periods. Both of those guys are very good at baseball. Celestin's going to be number one. That's something to be. I don't care who's in the system. He's, uh, when they sign him, he's going to be number one.
Starting point is 00:28:35 He's that good. Yeah, he's, he's incredible. So a lot to be excited about there. Obviously, still going to have drafts and, and all that stuff to replenish your farm system as well. That's just the natural process of that. And the Mariners are in a great shape to to continue having a strong farm system
Starting point is 00:28:57 that they can build depth out of and be able to trade out of while also using it to build a very quality major league roster. I just want to say this. I'm not convinced that we've seen Seattle's farm system at its best. So think of how good the system is now.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I'm not convinced it's not better this time next year. Just throwing that out there. That includes with the graduations of Julio, maybe Kirby, maybe Hancock. I still think it might get better. So, yeah, be aggressive with it. All right. So last question here from Andy Robinette.
Starting point is 00:29:36 At Andy Robinette. If J.P. Crawford is allowed to hit lead off next year come opening day, does that make the offseason a failure? Probably. but the thing is I could also see it where the Mariners just stupidly like no matter what they add this off season just stupidly put him in the leadoff spot anyway. So I don't know if that would be indicative of the off season. I would think it is, but you just you never know. They could go out and add a couple really nice pieces to this lineup and still hit J.P. Crawford at lead off for some reason.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I mean, again, this is a team that hit Ty France behind Kyle Seeger for, much of the season. So I just, I don't know. I don't know. I would say yes. But I, like I said, I think there's a possibility here where they just hit them lead off anyway, which is dumb. Hopefully it's dumb. That's, that's kind of the point, right?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Is that whether or not Crawford hits lead off or not, if you add enough bats to where you're like, J.P. Crawford shouldn't be hitting lead off, but he is, you're, you're, probably going to be okay. Like, look, do I want J.P. Crawford to be hitting leadoff? No, I don't think that's a good spot for him. I understand that he's done it and he's comfortable and he certainly looked very good for, you know, the month of June and September and he was pretty decent in August and he was awful in July and April. So pretty inconsistent there, but like, if J.P.'s hitting leadoff and he's followed by Simeon Ramirez, you know, Hanager, Conforto, whatever, you know, Yon go whatever then like okay like is the off season a failure no is it dumb that they're hitting jp
Starting point is 00:31:27 lead off in that case yeah but is the off season a failure no so yeah it's it's kind of tough to say but i for me what i want is i want an off season where i look at jp crawford and every time he's in the lead off spot i say well that's dumb he shouldn't be in the lead off spot look at he's like the sixth best hitter on your team he shouldn't be in the lead off spot that's what i want so yeah whether or not you know the mariners are dumb enough to keep them there they might but if two through five is stacked then I guess I'm okay with that yeah and that's not to say that J.P's a bad hitter by any means or anything like that he's he had a great year but I think he would be better in a in the seven hole or even the nine hole I think that would be a great way to
Starting point is 00:32:09 to really give your lineup some upside there towards the bottom bottom half of it with JP there so yeah but again I don't think it would necessarily be indicative of what or how the off season went. I think there's at least a way for that not to be the case. But yeah, you shouldn't be hitting him late off after this off season. I would think. So that's going to do it for today's show. Thank you so much for joining us here on lockdown Mariners for all the questions.
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