Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mailbag: International Signings, Evan White's Future and More

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode answer your questions, including where the Mariners' three new international signings would have gone in the draft, what Evan White's future holds and more.Be ...sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. How's it going, everyone? Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, your home for Daily Seattle Mariner's News and Analysis. Thank you so much for making us your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all platforms. Today is Monday, January 17th, 2020. Happy Martin Luther King Jr.
Starting point is 00:00:32 day and happy 100th birthday to the late great betty white i am your host tidan gonzalez recording from a very snowy toronto ontario canada and i'm joined as always by my co-host colby patnode follow us on twitter at l o underscore mariners you can follow me at dn gnzzz and colby at c pat 11 that's c p a t-1-1 be sure to also check out our patreon where we talk about the mariners even more and also get into some non-baseball talk twice a week. Visit patreon.com forward slash control the zone for more information on that. If you are interested in it on today's episode of Lockdown Mariners, it's Mailbag Monday. You sent us some Mariners questions, some baseball questions, and some non-baseball questions,
Starting point is 00:01:15 and we're going to try to get to as many as we can over the next 30 or so minutes. And if this is your first time joining us, welcome to the show. If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe. Wherever you're listening to this, we greatly appreciate it. So let's start with the one question that we got via email from Craig, who says the Mariners just signed three guys for $2.5 million, $1.3 million and $1.3 million in the international signing period. And if this was the draft, those signing bonuses would slot at the end of the first to second rounds. Does the talent of these three match the talent you would find in those rounds? and if not, what round would you project these would fit talent-wise?
Starting point is 00:01:59 So Colby, let's start with the big one. Lizarro Montes, who signed for $2.5 million with the Mariners over this past weekend. Where would he kind of fit in terms of the draft? If he were in this past class or this upcoming class, what have you? And, you know, really does that actually correlate, right? Does this signing period and those valuations correlate to the valuations that you see with the slot values in the draft each year. No, not really.
Starting point is 00:02:32 You know, because teams have more money to spend. They have more bonus pool money to spend in the draft, the MLB draft, particularly if you're picking high. You know, first round picks get $7 million. I think the biggest bonus I've seen an international guy get is $4 or $5 million. The entire Mariners draft pool or the entire Mariners international pool was a little over $5 million. So, you know, the number one overall pick gets $8 million on his own.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So it doesn't exactly correlate perfectly well. But in terms of what the Mariners picked up over the last few days, where they would rank in the draft, to me, Montes would be a, probably a second round guy. You know, typically bat only players don't go that high unless they went to college. they have that track record. Montes is only 17, so he doesn't have anywhere near the track record of, say, Seth Beer, who was kind of a bat only,
Starting point is 00:03:33 you know, draft pick in the recent years. But he's extremely projectable. It's just, again, he's fringe average runner and, and, you know, arm right now, and he's going to continue to get bigger.
Starting point is 00:03:50 So he'd probably be a second round pick most years. And, you know, the other thing, too, is that I don't have eyes on these guys. It's a lot harder to see these guys than it is to go see, you know, Carter Young play for Vanderbilt. I have easier access to those games. So with Montes, I would say he's probably the early second round pick, maybe a comp round a pick. In terms of Michael Arroyo, he is an interesting one because, there are a lot of people who really think he can hit it was
Starting point is 00:04:31 let's see here Joe Doyle was got a quote from a from a scout who said that getting a Royal for $1.2 million was a steal at that price he's a pure hitter
Starting point is 00:04:44 probably projects the third base moving forward but he can hit he's 17 still has a little projection left I could have I could see a guy like Royo because he saw as a shot to play shortstop, although probably third. He might be a second round pick as well, uh, kind of a similar profile to, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:03 Edwin Arroyo just in terms of age and build, um, and all that stuff, but, uh, you know, uh, Arroyo's bat is, is, is more advanced. Uh, sorry, they're both Royal. Michael Arroyo's bat is more advanced than Edwin's. Um, so you might have gone a little bit higher, but Edwin is certainly going to say at shortstop.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So they probably go roughly in the same spot. Martin Gonzalez, he's a defender. Like that's his calling card. He's a very good shortstop. Very similar to Edwin Arroyo in the sense that he's kind of club first at the moment. Right. And there is some upside there with the bat. So I think he's probably a third round pick of I had to guess.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And again, remember, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Mariners thought Edwin Arroyo was a second round pick. There were probably some teams who had him as a fourth round pick. you know what I mean so it kind of depends on where you go there but I think you know if you're looking at this from like where with these guys slot draft I think Montes is probably a high second round or maybe a comp round a pick I actually think Gonzales because of the bat probably goes you know in the 50s 60s and then you made a royal yes sorry and then Gonzales is I would say probably a third round pick just because it's it's mostly glove and a lot of projection at the
Starting point is 00:06:19 plate where the other two are you know obviously still a lot of projection because they're only 17, but just it's easier to project, you know, defense than it is offense. So if you have offense already in your back pocket, you're going to go higher than a guy with a plus glove. Yeah. Gonzalez is really interesting to me because, you know, obviously there are no sure things with any prospect, with anything. But when you find someone that has one tool that you feel like you can depend on years down the road, that's certainly interesting. Gonzalez is going to stick at shortstop. He's fantastic there.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And he's starting to fill out a little bit. And that's starting to create some interesting things there at the plate. So that's the one guy that I'm really interesting. And that's kind of being overshadowed by the other two. But yeah, a royal looks really interesting. And then Montes, of course, you know, might be, you know, just a first base, maybe corner outfield will see, but probably first base, D.H. type he's had some jordan alvarez comparisons so that's always uh that's always fun a ton of power the
Starting point is 00:07:30 guy is just massive um i mean you know if you haven't already i would suggest looking up a picture of him standing next to nelson cruz who he trained with uh over this past year uh it's it's striking how little he makes nelson cruz look compared to him and nelson cruz is a pretty big guy so yeah it's uh these these three these three signings it's really interesting too you know the mariners just went all all in really on on these three guys obviously they signed some others but this is what they used the majority of their bonus pool on and they went big with montez of course it's it's worth noting here this just came from joe doyle at joe joe doyle m i'llb on twitter the mariners you're signing guatemal and right-handed pitcher sebastian barrios in this class yeah barrios six foot one hundred 170 pound frame extremely quick arm long levers projection updating i miles an hour with a fantastic feel for a curveball so that's another interesting arm to uh to keep track of yeah they also signed um right-handed pitcher marco petino um short stop joan de jesus and right-handed pitcher edwardo tavar um so they've been um they've been pretty active but the uh yeah the three big signings there with montez arroyo and gonzalez those those are the big three and the three and the And they're all a lot of fun. Montez, I think for you and I, Colby, he's probably going to, he's probably going to slot in somewhere in the top 20,
Starting point is 00:09:01 somewhere in the top 18 prospects for us. Gonzalez and Arroyo are probably going to be just outside of the top 30. But they certainly have a ton of ceiling there to certainly rise to the ranks pretty quickly. So it's going to be a lot of fun to see how those guys develop over the next few years. and yeah, you always got to trust this mariner scouting department, especially in the international ranks. So thank you for the question. Craig, really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Let's answer one quick question from Twitter. Let's go to Eli Sellers at Eli Sellers, who has a non-Mariners question asking which sporting event would you most like to attend? And he says any sport. So it could be the Super Bowl. It could just be a random game. It could be what have you. World Series. Anything like that. For me, I'm going to go very homerish here. But it's, you know, Mariners home world series game. Ideally, that's what I would like to attend the most. Well, since you're cheating and being very specific, I will answer the question in the way it was intended to be. answered. To me, there's two sporting events that happen every single year that we can bank on. They're going to happen. Army Navy game is very high on my list. I've always wanted to do attend the Army Navy game. Also, the college world series. Always wanted to make it out to Omaha and just, you know, spend the week, you know, watching some really fun college baseball. Yeah, it'd be great if,
Starting point is 00:10:45 you know, like the University of Washington was there like they were a few years ago, but I would still go. even if they weren't. And I think that's the spirit of the question, tie, because obviously the answer is game clinching marters. I'm a man of the people, remember. I'm a man of the people remember.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And even if you have to cheat to get there, even if you have to cheat the system to be the man of the people, that's what you're going to do. Okay. I'll say this. I think it would be cool. I've never gone to a soccer football match before, but those things look crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:19 So like one of the, the UEFA, like, championships or one of those things, like, I would, or Premier League championships, like, I would go to that. No interest in that. None. Wow. Good for you. I didn't ask. But you did. All right. So before he gets on a rant about soccer, let me remind you about built bar. It's the new year. So that means New Year's resolutions. And if yours is about getting fit or eating healthier, make sure you include Billt Bar and your play. plan. Built bar is the protein bar that tastes like a candy bar, maybe even better than a candy bar. You
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Starting point is 00:13:22 So does Evan White still have a future with the Mariners? This is a question that we've kind of gotten a little bit of more so on our live show at Control the Zone on or sorry, at Truth of the Trident on YouTube. But there's also a question that's been floated around Mariners' Twitter in general is, well, what's going to happen with Evan White here now that it's. seems that Thai France is the future at first base for the Mariners. Colby, do you have any idea what, you know, where Evan White projects now moving past 2022?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Because obviously he's going to start the year in Tacoma. He's got to rehab. He's got to work on his approach at the plate. But do you see him having a future in Seattle? And if he figures those things out, where is he going to play? Yeah, I still think he has a future in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's muddier than it was. obviously, you know, when he signed the deal. But sure, he can still forge his own path here. And again, ultimately the bat is going to determine everything because if Evan White can hit and he can prove that he can hit, they're going to find a spot for him or they're going to find a spot for Thai France. That's just how it's going to work. Yet the DH still open. Thai France could certainly do that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Thai France could play some second and third. You can kind of move them around a little bit here and there and also play them at first. If there's a tough matchup for Evan White, you can kind of do a platoon there. there with White. White's also going to get to play some outfield this year that the Mariners have kind of already announced that. He did that a little bit in college and for Team USA. He's okay out there. It's not like when you put Mark Trumbo, a first baseman out in the outfield. It's not like that at all. I mean, Evan White is is, is, Evan White is very athletically gifted. Right. He's, he can handle that. Yeah, he's probably if he went out there full time, he'd probably be 55,
Starting point is 00:15:14 60 glove in a corner and maybe even French average in center field. He's gotten a little bit bigger since his college days. So that's why I don't say he's going to be above average in center. But yeah, you can put him in the outfield a little bit. You can put him at first base. You could start him in the outfield. And then when the game gets tight late, you can go put him at first base and get a plus outfielder out there. And there's plenty of ways to get Evan White playing time.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And I kind of talked about this last night in the AMA we did or I did. for true to the Trident and control the zone. There's three outfield spots that each need 162 games worth of players, and there's a DH spot. You know, it's 648 players. You divide that by five. You're still getting 130 games a year. So there's plenty of spots for Evan White to get us at bat.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So yes, there is still a future for him in Seattle, but he has to hit. It's really that simple. let's go to at zero underscore colon underscore one who asks who will have the best mariners commercial out of the top prospects debuting next year not including Julio uh i don't know i don't really know much about the personalities of brandon williamson and and matt brash and george kirby to honestly give you a definitive answer on that i also don't know if the mariners are really planning on doing commercials i would assume they are they haven't done it for the last couple years obviously because as COVID restrictions, but yeah, if we're excluding Julio from this list and just looking at the guys that are supposed to debut next year, I don't really know. I don't know much, you know, about the personalities of really any of these guys to tell you if they would be good at a commercial or not. Colby, you have anything else to add to that? None of them have earned any
Starting point is 00:17:06 commercial. Like, why would you make a George Kirby commercial before he's debuted? You know, like, it doesn't make sense. I don't know anything about George Kirby. Like, I know Julio has a personality. And I'm not saying that other guys don't have personalities, but I don't know, call me crazy. But for some reason, I don't see George Kirby being that good of an actor.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I don't know. Maybe he's great. But, yeah, well, I hope they bring back the live Mariner commercials, although probably not because I'm going to guess spring training is going to get delayed. So it would probably be three years without Mariner commercials. But yeah, why would you put a prospect in a commercial before he's done anything at the major league level?
Starting point is 00:17:47 It just doesn't make sense. I mean, like you want a cameo, Julio, fine, I guess. But like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I mean, no thanks. Like, you got plenty of work with without having to dip into the non-major leakers. Like, you'll probably see George Kirby be in the, catcher in one of the commercials. I think that's how they get like relievers. They get like relievers and guys like that in there. They just
Starting point is 00:18:11 dress somebody else up in an Oakland A's uniform and put them behind the plate. That'll be George Kirby. So I'll say George Kirby. Sure. I'll tag along on that answer because I don't have anything better to give you on that front. Sorry. Let's go to at 8 Crash Davis. Stimming from a fan fiction Friday question, do you either of you see any reasonable slash realistic packages that would land
Starting point is 00:18:37 Mike Senino back in Seattle. If you wanted to trade like Mike Sanino like the minute after the lockout ended, we could
Starting point is 00:18:43 talk about Levi Stout and, you know, probably not Matt Brash. But we could talk about Levi Stout or Bryce Miller, somebody like that,
Starting point is 00:18:55 somebody in that range. We could talk about that and then maybe a little bit more on top. But in July, I'm talking about like, you know for a catcher who doesn't make contact mostly defense a little bit of power i mean i don't know i'm talking somebody in like the 20s i'm talking like victor lebrada if that so
Starting point is 00:19:21 um as of right now i i don't see a deal that makes sense for both sides um because the raise are still trying to compete and the raise didn't want to didn't want to pay mike Senino, they could have just not picked up his option. So I kind of feel like they're going to roll with him for a little while. And then maybe if they get into the middle of the year, whether they're in it or not, and they're probably going to be in it. They're always open to trading in July. We saw them trade Diego Castillo, you know, while they were fighting for the division,
Starting point is 00:19:55 they still traded one of their best relievers. So they'll do it. And I think that's when you want to start looking at Sanino. But as of right now, I just don't see a deal where it makes. sense for the Mariners to pull the trigger where the raise would also say yeah sure you know let's let's not have mics you know going into the year yeah i don't i don't see it this off season um the rays are going to want him because i mean what other options do they have at the catcher physician right now that are going to properly supplement what he was able to to provide last year i mean
Starting point is 00:20:25 it was a four and a half one player slash two 16 301 559 like it's really good last year um and then you add on his uh you know the fact that he's one of baseball's best defensive catchers um it's a really uh it's a really valuable player right now and i just think with uh with you know where the the the raise want to go um they're going to want to they're going to want to have zanino tag along and when it comes to july assuming that these teams are still competing um you know, both of them are very much in the hunt. Even then, like, I get he would be a free agent, but I don't know if he would, if the raise would actually be willing to part ways with him at that point.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's hard to tell. He's, you know, especially if he's, if he's playing at that kind of level. I just feel like he's probably more valuable to them in a postseason race than whatever they would be able to get back. So I don't know if anything would necessarily fit. unless the Mariners were willing to overpay. All right. So we are going to be doing a little bit of a lightning round in just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:22:42 says geek question, who would win in a fight between Goku and Superman? My answer to this is very simple. It's Goku because I don't like Superman. I think he's trash. Colby. I've even watched Dragon Ball, Colby? Is that what a Goku is? Oh, come on, man. Yes, yes. I don't know then. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Too busy watching cool stuff like Pokemon, you know? So, I can't answer that. It can just also be cool, you know? No. It doesn't have to be one or the other. So you're on Superman? I mean, I don't know what like the backstory of Goku is, but Superman has one weakness, so I don't.
Starting point is 00:23:29 know how that matches up to what's his name it's hard to explain we we can't we we we don't have time for that but goku would would probably at a disadvantage i'll say all right let's move on to alex led better 15 at alex led better 15 would you like to see a meriner's playoff game on nicolodian no i thankfully i i didn't get the nicolodian broadcast for the cowboys 49ers game that happened on on Sunday here up in Canada. But I saw like little snippets of it. And yeah, I don't have any interest in ever watching that personally. So I know there's an audience for it, but I am not the audience.
Starting point is 00:24:13 No, neither am I. It looks absolutely horrendous. Not good. So the answer is no to that. At 8 Crash Davis. What's your favorite snack to grab at T-Mobile Park? Well, I can't answer that because I haven't been to T-Mobile. And, well, I've never been to T-Mobile Park, quote-unquote.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I've only been to Safeco Field like 13 years ago. So, Colby? Don't be a schmuck. Eat before you go in. Or just bring your own food. Yeah, you can bring your own food. And I don't think a lot of people know that. It just has to be in a clear, sealed container.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And I think technically Ziploc bags, account is clear and sealed. So one of my heroes is a guy I saw at a Seattle Mariners game pull out of his backpack a Costco hot dog in a Ziplock bag. And that costs him $1.50 where a worst hot dog at the concession stand would have cost him at least $7,8. That guy is my hero. That is the biggest middle finger to the man I've ever seen at the ballpark. It is awesome. I should have gotten my picture taken with him because that dude is living.
Starting point is 00:25:25 that dude is absolutely living right um but uh they're obviously like some people go and they they want the experience of ballpark food and i get that like i'm i'm mostly joking when i call people schmucks some people are but i get it like you want uh one of the places i do want to try i believe it's a zel's chicken i think is in the ballpark and it it sounds delicious it's fried chicken um but yeah typically i eat before i go um If there's a deal of the day type of thing, I'll get that. But usually it just get a couple of mariner dogs, like junior dogs, two of them for eight bucks. Yeah, but if I'm going to the ballpark, like going to the Rogers Center or whatever, I'm just grabbing a hot dog and beer.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That's kind of my thing. Hopefully, Ty and I will be at a baseball game together this year when he comes down in August, which I'm putting out there now because then he has to do it. So, yeah, but a hot dog is the go to. And most of the food at the ballpark is overpriced. I like a good pretzel. Here's my problem, right? Real fast. I know we're running out of time, but real fast.
Starting point is 00:26:28 At T-Mobile Park, if you go get a soft pretzel, right, which I love. I love soft pretzels. That's like eight bucks. Jesus. The cup of cheese is like $4. Ew, what? Yeah, I'm not even joking about that. So I don't get them there because $12 pretzel with cheese.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yes, exactly. Screw you. I don't want, it's not worth $8 if you gave me the cheese, but you're going to make me pay extra for the cheese. I'm not getting it. I'm not getting the pretzel. So there you go. I spend very little money on food at the ballpark.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It just, it's such a scam to me that it makes me so annoyed that I ultimately don't do it. Like I said, if I do do it, then go get the junior kids meal hot dog. You can get two of them for like eight bucks. And like a regular ballpark prank is like $9. So here's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:27:14 There is a mod pizza about a few blocks away from the ballpark. I'm going to mod pizza. I'm ordering myself pizza and putting that in a zip like bat. taking the slices individually putting that in a Ziplock bag and taking that to the ballpark. Hell yeah, that's right. Mod pizza rules. Hashtag not sponsored. It is very good.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I enjoy mod. We have one here in town. Quick, quick side note here. Ballpark protocol. You can bring in water bottles, right? Unopened water bottles. If they're 32 ounces are lower,
Starting point is 00:27:45 guess what the average size is of a medium water bottle? 33.6 ounces. I'm not making that up. So, yeah, you have to bring in a small water bottle sealed if you want to bring water into the ballpark. So, yeah, Team mobile, quite a scam sometimes. But I'm still going. So they got me. All right. Curtis Christensen at courtesy baseball.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Is signing Freddie Freeman a worthwhile pursuit. If they miss out on Brian and Story, it can make it easier to acquire someone like Jose Ramirez and trade France. No. No to all of this. that. Yeah, I would honestly, you guys know how much we're, we're hesitant on trading for Matt Chapman. I would rather trade for Matt Chapman. Yeah, it's, it's not that Freeman's bad or he's not going to be worth the money or anything like that. It's just that he's a first baseman and you already have a first baseman.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And yeah, and like I get the idea like, well, all right, you flip France for Jose Ramirez. But France is really good. plus you're still going to plus even if you trade them Thai France you're still going to have to give them Hancock maybe you're still going to have to give them like three other things on top of that so like basically what it comes down to is would you rather have
Starting point is 00:29:04 would you rather have Freddie Freeman for six years and $180 million or would you rather have you know Trevor's story for four years and a hundred million and Carlos Rodon for two years and 50 million.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You know what I mean? And tie France for the league minimum. Right. I mean, yeah, it just just. And maybe also trade for like Matt Chapman or Jeff McNeil on top of that. Like you legitimately could get story and conformo combined for the contract you're going to have to get Freddie Freeman to get him to leave Atlanta. I would rather, I would rather do that.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And plus I'm going to, you know, I'm only going to have Conforto. for a year or two. I'm only going to have story for four or five. Whereas Freeman, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to give six or seven years to. I just, I'm not interested. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:02 He came to the Mariners. It's like, hey, you want to one year, I'll sign one year $20 million. Okay, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:06 you figure it out. Um, but that's not happening. Mm. All right. Let's, let's try to pick up the, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:14 the pace here a little bit. Let's, let's go at eight, create, eight crash date. not including potential moves prior to the season. Who are the Mariners top outfielders for 2022, meaning based off current roster?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Who would you say has the most potential for each outfield position? Just to make it quick, I'll do with top three. I'll say Mitch Hanigur, obviously, Jared Kellnick, Kyle Lewis. That's not good?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Go with that. Yeah, the four best outfielers in your organization right now are Kellnick, Lewis, Hanager, and Julio. Braley's probably number five. yeah i think that's probably about right all right famous james at eating underscore w's if you couldn't choose the mariners
Starting point is 00:30:58 who would you want to see win the world series this year i've always really liked the burers so i'll go brewers interesting after i made the comment about the beer um i'm going to uh pick who i always pick i really like the raise um i like their uniforms like their hats i like cut their baseball ops department wish they spent more money but what do you going to do. I'm a big fan of what the race have going on.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You know, on the non-ownership division, I should say. So I'll say the raise. I really enjoy watching them play. Yeah, the raise are a lot of fun. Derek Brown at Derek underscore Brown 7. If Conforto proves out of their price range, could Austin Meadows
Starting point is 00:31:41 be a trade target? Seeing as they have kind of similar profiles, and if so, what kind of package would it take to get it done. I mean, Meadows, for the most part, is pretty much a DH only. Do you have any ideas on a package what it would take to get awesome Meadows? How many years does he have left? I failed to prepare for this. He's got about two years left. Okay. He's only 26. So that's good. But yeah, you know, he's just, he's honestly, he's not like that good of a hitter. At least you look. get like the data of baseball savant and stat cast really not a lot to love in his game. The 2019 season kind of looks like an outlier. It's been, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:31 175 games since then. And he's been okay, 234, 315, 458. It's kind of poor man's Mitch Hanigar. And defensively, he's a little bit better than Hanigar, but that's not saying much. Like I said, he's probably a DH type. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. Two years of that for kind of a fringe average hitter.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I would say that like anybody inside my top 10 is probably out of discussion. And I think that probably ends conversations for Tampa. Although again, Tampa's cheap, right? Meadows is making a little bit of money here. I think he's going to make $4 million this. year. Actually, you know what? He is, apparently he is just R-1.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So he is three years of club control. So that's going to raise the price even more. I would just skip it if I were the Mariners. Because again, I think 2019 is the outlier. I think what you're getting here is Max Kepler minus the defense, which is. Yeah, I would rather have Max Kepler. I would too.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But I mean, I don't think he's available. But if he was, I would most certainly. Certainly rather have that. To me, I would say I would give up, knowing that he has three years and that he's 26, he'll turn 27 in May, so it's his age 27 season. I would give up, like I think the best piece I would give up,
Starting point is 00:34:05 minor league piece I would give up, Levi Stout, like maybe Adam McO, but probably not, and I'd really prefer to keep Stout. So maybe it's somebody outside my top 10. Yeah, maybe it's somebody outside my top 10. Probably more of a bulk deal.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah, I'd probably start at like one of the pitchers that they got in the recent draft, Michael Morales, Bryce Miller. Even then, I kind of hesitate. Okay, so you're not doing Connor Phillips. Like I tell you, I would do Zach Deloche straight up. That's something they want to do, like without question. I don't think they would. No, I would do Deloche and like Polkovich. Deloche Polkovich and somebody like Juan Taine or Taylor Dullard.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I would do that, but that's probably about as much as I could do. Just Meadows, just to me, is not a marinery type of player. Yeah, same. I agree. All right. Last question from Aiden at SFNE 58, who asks, what's our favorite candy, chocolate and non-choclet? I'm going to go Snickers. I'm going to go sour patch kids.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Man, you're so basic. Um, as I go even more basic. Uh, Reese's peanut butter cups. Uh, they are Reese's, not Reese's. Get it right. Uh, Rheses. Uh, Ries is Skittles. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So, ooh, yeah, actually, I'm going to change my answer from sour patch kids to sour Skittles. Sour Skittles are, are dope. Yuck. Nothing wrong with the OGs. Um, also Starburst. Very good. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah. Yeah. Starbursts. Overrated. Overrated candy. Jelly beans. Way overrated. Yeah. Jelly beans are kind of trash. Yeah. Going to be relaxing. Yeah. Have you ever had the Harry Potter Bertie Blots flavored beans? A long, long time ago. Like when they first came out, somebody brought some to school. Yeah. But I haven't had them in so long. And, like, apparently the flavors are pretty accurate. Yeah. Like gear wax. I was like, I was like Dumbledore. I, I got earwax.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And it was, it was not great. It was not a fun time. Yeah. So, yeah. I had them a very long time ago, but jelly beans, candy corn,
Starting point is 00:36:34 like stuff that's like waxy, I really don't like. Candy corn, by the way, it belongs in the trash. Agreed. Do you like candy, you like candy corn,
Starting point is 00:36:44 grow up. Yeah, I agree with that, though. Candy corn is, uh, below bottom tier. It is,
Starting point is 00:36:55 um, garbage. Literally candied garbage. Throw it in there with the peeps. Yeah. I mean, I do like marshmallow though. So like to me, peeps at least have one redeeming quality to them, but they're way too sugary. Ty, one last thing just came across the docket. It probably deserves mention. We don't need to discuss it because I know we're overtime already. But former Mariners bullpen coach Brian DeLunis has passed away at the age of 46 after a
Starting point is 00:37:25 link to battle of kidney disease. So, yes, rest in peace, Brian DeLunis. Yeah, that's 46 is way too young. And that's really unfortunate. Thoughts out to his family and the organization and, you know, everyone who knows him who considers themselves a friend, colleague, all that stuff. So really unfortunate. rest in peace, Brian DeLunis.
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