Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mailbag: WAR and Win Totals, Free Agency Predictions and More

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode answer your questions, including how WAR translates to actual win totals, predictions for the Mariners in free agency and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe t...o Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, your home for Daily Seattle Mariners News and Analysis. Thank you so much for making us your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all platforms. And today is January 3rd, 2022, our first show of 2022. Happy New Year. your host, Tidane Gonzalez.
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Starting point is 00:00:57 Forward slash control of zone for more information on today's episode of Locked-on Mariners. It is Mailbag Monday. We are just a little under three months away from when opening day is supposed to be happening. And today we'll be spending this entire show answering as many of your questions as we can. And if this is your first time joining us, welcome to the show. If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe. Wherever you're listening to this, we'd greatly appreciate it. So before we get into the questions that you submitted it on Twitter. Let's head on over to our email, Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com, where we got a couple of questions, two from Cole and one from Sean. Let's start with Cole, whose first question is
Starting point is 00:01:39 pretty simple. Can you get an accurate estimate of a team's record by adding up everyone on their 26-man roster's war and how, and have that be how many games they won? So Colby, are you able to pretty much, the question is asking, are you able to accuse? accumulate every single player's war that played for that particular team and get to their win total when you add it all up. It'll give you a rough idea, give or take. And we need to remember that a team of zero war is about 40, is about a 43 win team. That's the baseline. Worst team in history was 42 and 120.
Starting point is 00:02:20 So 43 is considered the baseline of a zero war team. You can get pretty close, but it's going to ebb and flow by a couple wins here and there. I mean, for example, this last year, the Mariners team, you know, were they going to equal 90 wins on war? They might be close, but no, they're not. Sometimes, you know, things can't be explained mathematically. The, you know, the sum is greater than the parts or whatever you want to call it. So, no, it won't give you an exact readout, but it will give you a pretty good idea of the range that they should have been in based on how they played. And so it will give you a pretty accurate, but it won't be exact, at least not always.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, it's not going to be, you know, the 40 or so guys that make their way through the roster, 50 or so guys. How many ends up being due to injury and all that stuff? I mean, this year, I think they're not going to be. Yeah, it's not going to exactly, you know, with the Mariners, let's use them, for example, here. They're not exactly going to all just add up to 90 wins. exactly or you know 90.3 or 89.8 or what have you right um it's not going to be perfect to the to where you can round it all up or or anything like that it's um it's like colby said some things in baseball just can't be mathematically explained i think again talking about you know the mariners and
Starting point is 00:03:47 using this last year's team uh as an as an example is kind of a prime indication of that right like it's just it's kind of a one of those inexplicable things that just doesn't make any sense, but it happened. And that's kind of the beauty in baseball. Is that even with all the numbers and everything that we have right now, some things are just, you know, up in the air. It's true. I just did a quick look up real fast.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And, well, the Mariners hitters accumulated 11.5 F-4. and the pitcher is accumulated 14.3. So you had that up and you get 68.8, which is honestly about where we probably thought the Mariners were going to be, somewhere between 68 and 75. So, yeah, the answer is no, not always, and very rarely in fact. But, yeah, again.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So more or less 21 wins off where they actually wound up. right and that's just that just shows you right there yeah exactly it's uh it's a it's a very useful stat but we've said this before we'll say it again war is not the end all be all it's yeah it's extremely useful it's the one it's my go to uh i i trust it but that doesn't mean that it just you know it's not as easy to just plug and and play um i mean same thing with like run differential people love to use run differential but it's not great it's it can give you an idea of how good a team is but it's not going to tell you what their record is uh for example the mariners by run differential were should have gone 76 and 86 they went 90 and 72
Starting point is 00:05:35 so yeah still a lot we don't know about pretty much the uh the 2021 mariners broke all these uh all these things all these constructs basically sure yep so uh cole's other question is uh Another pretty simple one. Who do you think will be a better all-around player in their whole career, Julio or Jerry Kelnick? I'm going to go, even though that Jared's career hasn't gotten off to the best start, I'm going to stick with where my stance was last year at this time when we were asked similar questions like this. Jared Keldick, because he's a five-tool player all around just a better player.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I think he, well, I think Julio is going to be amazing. I think Julio is probably going to compete for MVP's and stuff. I just think all around Jared is probably going to be the better overall player. We're going to take Julio. Ooh. So it changed for you. Yes, it's a change for me. Jared Kellnick has gotten so muscular and stiff almost that I don't have any confidence that he can play, you know, a good center field.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And that was kind of what we were expecting, you know, before he was called up was an above average 55, 60 grade center fielder. And he's just not that. That doesn't mean he won't be a 50, you know, but Julio's not a center fielder either. So neither one are center fielers. And, you know, Kelnick's not going to steal a ton of bags. He'll steal a few. But Julio can steal bags too. He's a pretty good base runner.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So if it comes down to basically, for me, who do I think is more likely to hit? Julio. So. But, you know, that's a great problem. to have and a fun question to tackle because there is no wrong answer. They're both MVP level like upside. So
Starting point is 00:07:30 yeah, it's a good problem to have, but I'll take Julio, which is a change for me of about 12 months ago. I still believe in the defense for Jared, and I still think there's time to turn that around and I'm not super discouraged by what we saw, even though at times it was a little
Starting point is 00:07:47 bit of an adventure, but we'll see. We'll see how it goes. He got to a lot of balls. They just didn't end up in his love, which seems fixable, but also maybe just catch the ones that you get your glove on, Jared. But no, I think both are going to be pretty good in corners, though. So, yeah, I'm still high on Kelnick. Thank you for the question. Cole. Let's move on to Sean here, who has also a pair of questions that he wants to ask.
Starting point is 00:08:14 He says, hey, guys, thanks for answering my question the other week was listening to my car again. Hello, Sean. And hello, Sean's car. first question is do you think jerry will ever make a trade with the angels yes um yeah probably eventually but who knows but probably eventually it'll happen yes it's bound to happen oh yeah yeah and uh then uh shan's main question is uh regarding george kirby's overall outlook do the mariner see him be in a long-term rotational slash ace like player or can you see him being a trade piece when the lockout comes to win in he's young and has a high ceiling could
Starting point is 00:08:55 you see him being traded into a rebuilding team for a solid infielder slash gadget player the mariners could use some major upgrades and multiple positions thanks guys go m's sean um the mariners love george kirby and you know we talk all the time about how there's probably no untouchables in the mariner's farm system realistically there no one is really untouchable but george kirby along with Julio Rodriguez is one of those few guys who's basically virtually untouchable to the Mariners. So, yeah, they really like him. I don't know if he's an ace. I don't know if that's his ceiling.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I think he's going to be a very good high-end two, you know, and you've heard Colby and I, if you've listened to the show a bit, you've heard us use those terms, which is a really good pitcher. That's top 20-30-ish pitcher in baseball if he's a high-end number two. I think that's kind of what his ceiling is. is I don't know if he's an ace, but yeah, they love him. And I don't think that he would be traded for anything that isn't bringing in pretty much a superstar for the Meriters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 To me, Kirby, I would be more shocked if they traded George Kirby than if they traded Jared Kelnick. I think, you know, I don't think they're trading either of those guys. and I really doubt they're trading anybody inside their top five this winter. So no, and I don't know. Kirby's got some pretty good upside of the velocity can stick because we saw it in spurts in 2021. And the command didn't suffer at all. So he could be an ace, but what's more likely is he's going to be a really strong number two.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And that's the hottest commodity in baseball right now. So you have to get a superstar and then some to consider training. Kirby or Gilbert. So, yeah, I'm going to say no, he's not going to, he's not going to trade him. But, you know, at least not this winter, maybe next winter. But there's just not really anybody out there that is worth George Kirby. Right now, yeah. Yeah, we don't think Jose Ramirez is on the block.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And even if he is, you can probably get him without giving up Kirby. So, yeah, there's just nobody out there that I would trade Kirby for. So I would be absolutely shocked if he got dealt this one. winter. All right. So thank you for the questions, Sean. We got more questions on the way from the Twitter side of things. We'll be reading those in just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:12:49 You're listening to Locked-on Mariners. Thank you again for making that's your first listen of the day, just like you do here every day. We greatly appreciate the support. We're going to try to get to as many of your Twitter questions as we possibly can on today's show, but we're probably going to have to save a few for Wednesday's show, which is totally fine.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So if you don't hear your question answered on today's show, be sure to tune in on Wednesday, and we will be sure to get to this. there. So let's start with AJ Allen at AJ Allen PDX. Outside of the obvious sign Trevor Story and or Chris Brian and trade for a sunny gray level pitcher, what is a realistic move you want to see the Mariners make? Colby, you want to kick us off here? Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I would like to see the Mariners acquire. I think this is a different answer than what many are expecting. I would like to see them acquire a pitcher who can, who has experience. experience pitching both in the rotation and out of the bullpen. Dang, that was my answer. As kind of the number six guy, we talked about this on CTZ.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You can subscribe by going to patreon.com forward slash, backslash control the zone. I always forget which slash it is. You guys know what's up. But yeah, I think somebody like Ryan Yarbrough makes a lot of sense. You know, you can put him in the back end of the rotation and if you acquire
Starting point is 00:14:10 Sunny Gray or if George Kirby just wows you and he's up in June or whatever. You can push Yarbrough. row to the bullpen where he's very comfortable pitching out of somebody like that. Caleb Smith is another one. So I'd like to see him grab somebody like that. Just, you know, a good solid number five slash six starter who can pitch out of the bullpen and give you something. All right. So since that was that was kind of going to be my answer.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I'll go outfield. We've talked about the importance of adding to your outfield a lot on the show. Pretty much ad nauseum. So apologies for having this discussion. again if you are a regular listener of the show but yeah the mariners need to get better in the outfield they need to get deeper in the outfield they need stability in the outfield so anyone out there who could possibly give them any sense of stability out there is welcome in my book so michael conforto if you want to go for some upside along with stability that would be great that would be fantastic i would be over the moon with uh with that kind of move uh say a Suzuki would be a lot of fun i'm sure some of you know how I'm a little hesitant on that front just because he hasn't played at the major league level. I don't think that's a sure thing whatsoever, even though all signs point to him be in at least an average major league outfielder. But yeah, that's kind of the idea is just
Starting point is 00:15:33 add, add, add, add to the outfield, really no matter what and no matter who it is. but, you know, I'd like for them to get some stability and get someone there that they can rely on a bit better than Kyle Lewis or Jake Fratley or what have you. So we have another question from Ryan Witt that kind of asks a similar question at Ryan Witt 7. If you could make three moves after the lockout as GM, two being bigger moves and one smaller move, what would you do? So I would obviously I'm at either Chris Brian or Trevor story. I think you kind of just have to. You need to get another pitcher. So whether that's Sunny Gray or Frankie Montas,
Starting point is 00:16:24 those are probably my two bigger moves. I think those are still the most important, even though that outfield is really important. One smaller move, would one smaller move, would Kevin Kiermire count as a smaller move? Because he, I mean, he's not super exciting. Okay, so I'll do that. I'll say Kevin Kiermeier.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Trade for Kevin Kierremyer. I'm assuming some form of realism is required here. I'm going to sign Trevor's story and not feel great about it. And then I'm going to sign Michael Conforto and feel really good about it. And then for a smaller move, I'm probably going to go ahead and trade for a Ryan Yarbrough. And put him in the rotation as my number five. And then that way when Kirby or whoever brash. I mean, I'd rather have Sonny Gray, but I would count him as a third big move.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So I'll say trade for Ryan Yarborough. So we both have trades with the race at the end. I mean, why wouldn't you? Yeah, exactly. It hasn't happened yet. It needs to. It can't be a Mariners off season without one trade. Remember when they didn't trade with them in like 2019?
Starting point is 00:17:32 God, that was weird. It was really strange, really strange. So, yeah. All right. Thank you for the questions. AJ and Ryan. Let's move on to Ryan Frailich now at Ryan D. Freelich who asks, does J.P.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Crawford have any hope of staying the coolest mariner after Julio Rodriguez gets called up. I mean, they are pretty dang cool, both of them. Julio's got a lot of swag to them. Has a lot of fun, obviously. JP's got those
Starting point is 00:18:04 visor sunglasses things that he wears all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Julio's got to have like some like equipment swag, which I know, I know he does a bit. Like he wears the wristbands and all that stuff. Like he's got to, but he's got to find a way to top JP on that front. But he's JP has some pretty cool equipment swag, you know. Man, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's going to be tough for JP because, because Julio's got it going on. Swaggy, man. Gold chains. I think one of them says Julio. Like, yeah, that's. Yeah. I mean, in a past life, JP is clearly a skateboarder slash surfer who lived on the California beaches.
Starting point is 00:18:46 That's clearly JP's vibe. And I can appreciate it. But Julio is just like, I mean, who, that's going to, it's going to be real tough for JP. That's all I'll say. Julio will gun for that title pretty hard. And I mean, hey, you know, Julio's got his own show.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So like, sorry, JP. Maybe you can, maybe JP can go on Julio show and they can have a swag off. I don't know. Yeah. By the way, really underrated, like, you know, really underrated swag on the Mariners roster right now. Kyle. Ty France.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh. Ty France has got some underrated swag. I'll say that. I think you're falling in love with the one time you wore a mic. And you're like, oh, he's a personable guy. No, no, no. I'm not, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about, like, you know, how he rocks his uniform and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And all that. Yeah. Compression sleeve. his sleeve. He's got the, you know, couple top buttons on button on his jersey. I mean, it's not Danny Valencia swag, but it's pretty good. I mean, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Ty France. Ty France knows what's up. All right. So, appreciate the question, Ryan. Let's move on to Curtis at courtesy baseball. Is the idea of trading for Craig Kimroll to form a super bullpen, a good idea for the right price of course. Our current relievers will almost
Starting point is 00:20:01 certainly regress next year and strengthening a strength could build a bullpen like the Royals World Series teams. Thanks guys. So this is kind of an interesting topic, but ultimately my answer is no, because I think the right price for the Mariners is ultimately not going to be the right price for the White Sox in this situation. I think at that point, they would just rather keep Kimball. And I don't think that the Mariners necessarily need to add anyone big because they're already getting a,
Starting point is 00:20:32 they're already adding a big piece in Ken Giles that they didn't have last. year. So I think that's a huge thing. I think that's a big thing that a lot of Mariners fans kind of overlook here is that Ken Giles is a huge deal in what they're adding there. I mean, that's their, that's going to be their closer or their eighth. He's going to mean to be one of their high leverage guys. Adding to, you know, adding to Drew Steckin Rider and Paul Sewald and Diego Castillo. That's just a huge get for them. So also adding. The only thing they need to do that, I do agree that like some of the guys probably will regress. I think that's something that you have to prepare
Starting point is 00:21:08 for and plan for because it's bullpins that's how they are. But yeah, I don't think that you need to take a huge swing. I would like to see them mad maybe an arm or two over the course of the soft season when the lockout eventually ends. But I don't think that they need to be aiming for anyone like Kimbril, especially for the price. So it would probably take for the White Sox to
Starting point is 00:21:29 give them up. Right. And I mean, plus there's the contract which I mean, the Mariners have money. Don't give you wrong. the point too, right? It's like how much money can you get taken off of that? And for me, I don't think the White Sox would want to do what the Mariners would ultimately ask for. What is Kimbril like 15, 16 million? I mean, it's 15 million, I believe, yes. Yeah, they'd probably have to eat like half of that for me to be interested at all. Plus, if there's one thing you trust this regime to do, isn't it, go out and find a good bullpen arm on the cheap? Jerry's proven he can build bullpen. So I mean, literally turned Paul C.
Starting point is 00:22:06 from nothing into one of the best relievers in baseball last year. Drew's second rider was a top 30 reliever in baseball after being pretty much irrelevant for three years. Casey Sadler, they claimed off a waivers like Casey Sadler. So I hope they add. I would like to see them add somebody like calling the Q. That'd be a really fun arm to add. Andrew Chaffin maybe. Jake Deekman.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I would like see that. Yeah. Like somebody who's going to get three, four million bucks. like that'll be fine and then they'll take their shots like they always do. But yeah, I'm not worried about the bullpen. You're getting Giles. You're getting Munoz and they're going to regress. That's going to happen, of course.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But hopefully you're starting pitching is better. It is. And hopefully your offense is better should be. And it'll take some of the weight off of the bullpen because they did falter a little bit down the stretch and who could blame them. All right. So let's move on to Hunter here at Hunter Porton, who asks prediction for first signing and first trade for the Mariners after the lockout. Well, if we're just going off of what the last
Starting point is 00:23:10 bit of rumors were heading into the lockout and take that as what comes first for the Mariners coming out of the lockout, which probably won't be the case. But I'm just going to go with the safe pick here. They signed Trevor's story and trade for Sunny Gray. Agreed. Yeah. That's what has the most fire. We're most smoke right now.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So where there's smoke, there's fire, blah, blah, blah. yeah, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. All right. Thank you, Byr. Let's move on to, I don't know what to say at Dower Optimist. If the new CBA creates an age-related free agency, does that create better trade opportunities for the Mariners, i.e. John Means turns 29 this year. And Cedric Mullins turns 29 on October 1st, 2023. And there were already rumors.
Starting point is 00:23:59 The Orioles were open to trading both prior to the lockout. So basically, the question is, Colby. If these guys' free agency timelines gets, get bumped up by a year or so, and the club control naturally is lessened, does that help out the Mariners in trade negotiations the rest of the off season? I would find it pretty hard to imagine that Major League Baseball would just implement that and, you know, not have there be some kind of grace period. because a lot of people are suddenly free agents, you know, so. Yeah. And they got to think about the team like, hey, you're 29, but you've only had this guy for two years, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah, I can't imagine that the owners would sign off on this. Yeah. That is a pretty significant disadvantage for a lot of teams. Like you're talking about the Orioles here, two of their best players. And this is a team that doesn't have a lot of valuable major league assets right now. Suddenly they're going to loot. lose them in a shorter amount of time.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Like, that's not going to, it's kind of the same discussion that we've been having with the implementation of a international draft. Well, a lot of these times already have agreements in place with these kids, with these prospects that they're not just going to give that up suddenly. So I would think that that's something that maybe is agreed upon in the CBA, but isn't officially implemented until four or five years down the road. Yeah. And I, to be fair, I am in favor of the age-based free agency.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You know, and then obviously if you come up before, you know, like let's say you come up at 20, they don't own your major league rights for nine years. You would get free agency in five years for me. That's what I would, that's what I would kind of push for about the players, five years of club control and automatic free agency at 29 and a half, I think is what they're looking at right now. So I'm in favor of that. That's fine by me. but I don't think the owners are going to go for it because, you know, they're they're cheap.
Starting point is 00:26:05 They're greedy. Let me, let's just be honest about it. So I just have a hard time seeing them go for that. Yeah, exactly. I don't see it either. So to answer your question, I think eventually it gets implemented, but not to the point where it would help the Mariners right now. So, thank you for the question, though. And let's move on to Red Elfs at Red Elfs, who asked M's average payroll through from 2016 through 2018 was around $165 million a year.
Starting point is 00:26:41 2022 payroll is around $81 million after Robbie Ray. M's could sign the right giant bats, Freeman or Story or Suzuki and two starting pitchers. Rodon. Now that puts them around 168 million and M's are serious World Series contenders. What level of spending is reasonable to expect? I don't think it's going to be around 168 million, not this year. Colby and I, when we've been doing our offseason plan on True to the Trident.com, if you want to check that out, you can.
Starting point is 00:27:22 We're also doing a 2.0 second version during the lockout. out. We've been working around a budget of about $130 million. So that still gives them quite a bit of money to play around with right now, but that does get eaten up by story, et cetera. I could see them going over that, Mark. I just don't see them getting close to where they were pre-rebuild in one off season. I just don't think that's super realistic, nor do they have. to do that. And I mean, that's all another conversation that we have to have, or that
Starting point is 00:27:59 we can have, but, and we have had in the past. At some point, you're just spending on. Yeah. I don't think that they're going to want to get there. No. Yeah. I think to get to 160 million, you'd almost literally have to just spend money to say you spent it. Because I, right now
Starting point is 00:28:15 they're at about 80. I don't think there's 80 million dollars worth of moves they need to make. Um, because yes, they are going for it, but they're not going to block Kellnick. They're not going to, block, you know, Julio long term. They have a lot of young pitchers they want to get through. So they're not going to go.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I mean, the example is right on. And you also want to have flexibility. If you understand that maybe like your cap, like your absolute salary cap within your organization is around $170 million. If Jerry Depoto knows that, he's going to want flexibility to add to the payroll midseason and whatnot because this isn't the final product. And you don't want to get wrapped up into too many long. term financial commitments. It's going to bog you down. And then you're back to where you were with Kano and Cruz,
Starting point is 00:29:01 the Seeger and Felix, et cetera, on the books where you just, you didn't have the money to make anything happen. So, yeah, there's a lot that goes into that. Yeah, take advantage of the young guys who aren't making anything right now. And don't, don't even look at the payroll at the end of the offseason. It will not matter what it is. Yeah. Look at the roster.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Tell me it's better. Tell me if it's better or not. And that's the only thing that matters. The payroll is all window dressing. But you had to answer your question overall, I think probably 130, 135 is probably where they start to really slow down on this thing. Save a little bit for next year because, like,
Starting point is 00:29:40 I don't know, what if you have Abraham Toro is your third baseman this year? And he just, he can't hit. Now I have to go spend, you know, $20 million to get a good third basement. But oh,
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm at $170 million already. Like, how am I going to, then you have to trade other more expensive players. to accommodate that. So, yeah, keep the flexibility. Or you're going to have to trade out valuable assets to get a player at that position who's cheap and affordable.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And so that creates its own problems in itself. So, yeah, it's a whole thing that they have to, you know, understand how to navigate and all that stuff. But, yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:15 I would say probably 130. Yeah, long term financial planning. Not everybody's strong suit. We'll see if Jerry can do it. All right. So let's answer, one last question
Starting point is 00:30:28 before we hop off here and it's going to be a quick one from Eli Sellers at Eli Sellers 24 who asks Best Baseball Game you've attended a person. My answer is very easy. It's James Paxson's no-hitter in Toronto. Colby?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, for me it's probably game 161 against Oakland in 2016, I believe it was. It was a lot of fun. It was back and forth game. I think they ended up losing that game 8 to 7, but Ben Gamble had a big hit to tie the game in like the 8th. Nelson Cruz had a mammoth home run to straightaway center field
Starting point is 00:31:06 to give the Mariners a, I think it was a five to four lead at the time. There was a lot of electricity. They were still in the playoff hunt at that time. There was just a ton of electricity and a ton of, you know, juice in that ballpark. It was a lot of fun to be a part of. So the Sean O'Malley game on King, Giffrey Jr. weekend, that was a lot of fun. you know stadium chanting Sean O'Malley after a go-ahead home run
Starting point is 00:31:29 and Sean O'Malley Go ahead home run in the seventh I believe it was and then he made a great play in the hole at shortstop in the top of the eighth and it was it was a lot of fun so probably those two games really stand out I like it all right so like I said earlier in the show we will reconvene
Starting point is 00:31:52 on Wednesday to answer the rest of these questions that you've had and maybe talk about anything else that potentially comes up kind of how last week happened but um probably nothing is is going to happen like that this week uh still probably quite a ways away from uh lockout ending uh i don't think that they're even uh getting back together until mid month so um yeah so probably nothing going to happen on that front so we'll just be uh spending wednesday show answering the rest of your questions we got a question from jordan levitt we got a question from alex lebedder we got a question aiden we got a question from mjfb 80 and um quite a few of those are uh some pretty big topics so i
Starting point is 00:32:35 i think uh i i think we'll be able to uh those will be better to actually handle on wednesday because uh i think they need more time for us to answer so um yeah so look forward to us uh answering those on Wednesday if you did ask a question. Appreciate your patience on that front. And yeah, we'll see you on Wednesday. So that's going to do it for our show today. Thank you so much for joining us here on Lockdown Mariners for Colby Pat node. I'm Tadang Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L-O underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Dan Gonzalez. That's D-A-N-Z-L-Z-L-Z and Colby at C-P-E-E-A-T-1. You can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode. Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day, just like you do here every day.
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