Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mailbag: Will Mariners' New Offensive Coordinator Help Them Land Jorge Soler?

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

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What impact, if any, will new Mariners offensive coordinator, Brand Brown, have on roster building this offseason? And why haven't the M's traded Bryce Miller or Brian Wu yet? I'll answer all that and more coming up on today's episode of Locked-on Mariners. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, Hoy, sailors.

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The link, as well as our social accounts, is in the description of this episode. It is Mailbag Monday on a Tuesday. Let's see what you guys want to know. We got a couple of questions here about New Mariners' offensive coordinator Brant Brown. We're going to answer both of them together. The first one here comes from Tom.

Do you think people are overrating, underrating, or accurately rating the chances of Brant Brown being brought? onto the coaching staff helping us in our pursuit of Jorge Soler. And secondly, from Daisy and the dingo, do you think that part of Brant Brown's role with the M's is to assist the front office with Major League personnel decisions? It's been an area they've seemed to lack in recently.

It seems to be an offseason where they've taken a complete 180-degree turn and hitting philosophy. All right. So to answer the first question, I don't know. To be honest with you, I don't know if it's overrated. rated, underrated, or properly rated. I mean, the only way that we'll know if Jorge Salar actually took Brent Brown's presence in Seattle into account and actually value that as if the Mariners actually sign him,

and then in his media gathering after signing says, yeah, because Brent Brown was here, I wanted to come to Seattle. That's really it. So I don't know. I don't know. It certainly doesn't hurt, right? And I'm sure that, you know, Brown, once he was brought into the fold, went to Jerry to Poto and Justin Hollander said like,

I like Jorge Salair. I like his fit in this ballpark and I like his fit on this ball club. After being with him down in Miami and essentially getting the most out of Saler as anyone has in Solair's career in a single season. But does

that mean as much to Salair? I don't know. I'm not Jorge Saler. I don't know Jorge Saler. So I have no idea how to answer that. I would say accurately rated I don't, but again, I have no clue. I have no clue.

To answer the second question, I'm sure his input is being taken into account, but is he directly having an influence on the moves, the Mariners will end up making this offseason whenever they decide to actually do something and add to their major league roster rather than subtract? I don't know that either. But I would say that, like with Solair,

that he has probably told them about some guys that he likes. And of course, Brown's going to be the guy that puts together these offensive game plans for the Mariners in 2024. So, you know, he should have some influence over how the offense is constructed. But that's still ultimately up to Jerry DePoto and Justin Hollander in their vision in general.

Do I think that Brown is going to have any impact over their hitting philosophy? I mean, in terms of the game plans, yes, like I said, because he's the one that's going to be crafting those. But in terms of like cutting down strikeouts, stuff like that, or like specific player types, who knows? I don't think so because, I mean, the whole reducing strikeout emphasis, the pivot that the Mariners have seemingly made. I mean, they haven't added a ton of guys to the roster, but they have subtracted a lot of high strikeout guys. That decision was made before Brown was brought into the fold before they had any sort of guarantee that Brown was going to be a part of their coaching staff in 2024. So again, we have to wait and see what kind of players they bring in.

Because if they bring in Jorge Saler, that's a guy that's had strikeout issues in the past. If they trade for Brent Rooker or whoever, that's that guy that has strikeout issues now. So this whole thing about reducing strikeouts might be a moot point when it's all said and done once we get to catchers and pitchers reporting. So I don't know. But yeah, it's really hard to quantify the impact of Brant Brown, especially right now. until we actually see, you know, proof of that. So really, it's all just kind of guessing on our parts right now. Colby, do you have anything to add?

We don't know either of these questions. Like, it's impossible for us to know, uh, because we don't know if Horea Solaire even likes Brant Brown. Uh, so maybe he wants to get as far away from him as possible. Like maybe this hurt their chances. We don't know. I, I would feel pretty comfortable saying it probably didn't hurt their chance. to getting Jorge Salera, but I don't know if it helped.

So I think, you know, it's based on what I've seen. Mariner fans are pretty much properly rating the impact of Brand Brown, you know, in terms of signing Horace Salar. And I'm sure that Brown does have some, I don't know, influence, but he will have some input that will be considered by the front office because I'm sure, like most, you know, hitting coaches and pitching coaches, the Mariners will send information or send swings or whatever to these guys and ask them, hey, what do you see? What do you like? What don't you like? What do you think you can fix? And do you think this is a possibility for us? Can you

help this player? And they'll say yes or no. And the front office will do with that information what they want. So he's going to have some, you know, conversations with Justin and Jerry. I just don't know how impactful those conversations will be in terms of the overall, you know, the choice that that has been made. So, yeah, I don't know what Bram Brown's role is going to be in terms of, you know, how much sway he's going to have in acquiring players or, you know, getting players interested in coming to Seattle when they otherwise wouldn't. My guess would be not a ton, but some.

And we'll just see what happens. Like we don't we we won't know brand brown is good at his job like probably ever because you know he doesn't swing the bat for lucia rase he doesn't swing the bat for cal rale and we talked about this last year when everybody wanted to fire the hitting coach in may like it was his fault that a eugenio sweres was you know lost bat speed and and was sitting 200 with no power so uh coaching like coaching in general in baseball a little bit overrated important, but it's overrated by the average fan. And we don't know what, what Brent Brown is going to do.

We don't even really know for sure what his exact, like, role is. We know he's the offensive coordinator, but is he calling fade routes on, on fourth and one? Like, I don't know. Like, what is his actual purpose? He's calling a go ball to Jackson Smith and Jigbaugh from Drew Locke. The 30-year-old. You know, is that the thing that Brant Brown's going to do?

Is he calling the play or is he throwing the ball? Like, I think we know the answer. So we'll see what happens. I mean, it certainly seems to be a pretty popular hiring across baseball, Brown. Yeah. I haven't seen anybody say anything negative about him or anything like that.

And he is by most accounts kind of a mechanical, like guru guy. Like he finds hitches and swings and he can fix that type of stuff. So it's not a bad hiring. I don't know how much sway it has with Jerry and Justin. I don't know if, uh, you know, I don't know if it helps or it probably doesn't hurt with Solair, but I don't know if it helps. So I think, you know, in this particular instance, very surprisingly, like Mariners' Twitter is probably accurately valuing what a guy can bring to the table.

Yeah. I would say that it's probably not a coincidence that we've heard. Guys like Jorge Saler and Justin Turner, guys that have worked with Brent Brown in the past connected to the Mariners this off season. does that mean that they're actually going to land those guys or that they're specifically only targeting those guys because Brant Brown is there or because Brant Brown has said, I want those guys?

I don't know. I don't know. And does that mean that those guys want to come to Seattle because Brant Brown is there? I don't know. But yeah, Brown's obviously a very well-respected coach, it seems, around baseball. Marlins people seem pretty disappointed that he left to take the Mariners' job.

and obviously he was a part of a championship coaching staff in LA back in 2020. We'll see if that has any impact on them bringing in some good players this off season. But so far they haven't done that yet. So if they add Hortez-Lera again, we'll see if he says like Bram Brown was a reason that he wanted to sign in Seattle. I'm sure he'll be pretty open about that and be very willing to say that if he does sign and he meets with the media. But until then, I just, I have really no way. to quantify what Brown's impact is, specifically in terms of roster building right now.

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We got a question here from Alex. Who is a Mariners player you were very wrong about? Could be recent or a long time ago. For Ty, he won't mention it. So I will for him, to Oscar Hernandez. Ty was way wrong about that one. I was wrong about Long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's plenty of, um, Coalick. We were both. AJ Pollack, very wrong about. Yeah. Yeah. Not too many where we were wrong in like the opposite direction where we're like,

oh, this guy's not going to be any good. and then he was. Yeah. Mostly, you know, this guy's going to be good and then they weren't. So very optimistic people here at Lockdown Mariners, as you can tell. Sure, sure. Yeah. That's the first word that comes to mind when people see your face is optimism.

I just, you know, I'm dead right about Emerson Hancock. So, you know, maybe we want to talk about things we were right about. There's one. Ties list will not be that long. But, you know. No. I was very wrong about Colton Long. I was very wrong about AJ Pollack.

I was very wrong about Tay Oscar Hernandez, even though he still had a decent year, but definitely nowhere near the year that we had hoped that I thought he was going to have in Seattle. So yeah, so I'm just going to retire from making any sort of guarantees or big, bold proclamations. And then we're going to fast forward to next week

when they sign Jorge Salarra. I'm going to be like, Cori Solera is going to have a career year in Seattle. He's one in the AAL Home Run Crown. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So, yeah, it was a year full of L's for us in 2020. Yeah.

But really, if you're a Mariners fan, like, pick a 2010 player, like a 2010 to 2019 player, you were probably wrong about them. Yeah. Probably. I mean, if it's not Felix, Canoe, Cruz, or Seeger, you were probably wrong about them to some degree. Yeah. I mean,

even with Cruz, I don't know how many people thought he was going to do what he ended up doing in his Mariners tenure. So, you mean, I got him, Hall of Homer. Yeah,

yeah, I kind of, you know, I vaguely remember, but I do remember, uh, the narrative being once he signed like, oh,

you know, he had the career year in Baltimore and Baltimore is basically a, a little league ballpark and, you know, I thought he was going to come to Seattle. And he's old. the all this stuff yeah you give him four years he shouldn't be playing in the outfield like yeah i remember them signing i was like oh this guy's gonna hit 250 with like 25 bombs and it's

gonna be like yeah he was fine but and then he was like a you know MVP candidate like like legitimately turned himself into a guy who has a legit hall of fame case so yeah uh yeah but uh that those ones are more fun it's more fun to be wrong about you know for wrong up for the wrong reason and the you know what i'm saying sure it's more fun to think you guys not going to be good and then he is that's fun yeah it's really it really sucks and you're like wow dust nackley is going to be 280 360 420 and and hit 15 bombs with like 30 doubles and 10 triples and nope not even close yeah yeah sad nicholas here uh wants to know early this off season people projected that good controllable pitching would hold

a lot of trade value, do you still think that's the case this far? Are the M's being picky with the offers they've received, or is the trade market proving their value isn't as high as we thought? I think it's more about how do you supplement the hole they leave in your rotation? And with the Mariners' budget constraints, are they going to be able to properly fill that hole?

My guess is no, and that they think that's not a slam dunk, at least. that they're going to be able to accomplish that. So I think they're holding on for dear life to Miller and Wu until they get essentially an offer that they can't refuse, right? Or a trade presents itself that they just cannot pass up on. And I just don't think that that's happened yet because I think if it did, they would have done it by now. I think there's definitely a price even with the murky path

to supplementing that spot in the rotation I still think that there is a definitely a deal out there that the mares would 100% say yes to on Miller or Wu. That's still like feasible, right? I mean, obviously like if the Braves were like, here's Ronald O'Cunia for Bryce Miller.

You know, of course they're saying yes. That's not what I'm saying. And I'm saying like, you know, like with the race, right? If there's a deal there with the raise that that really appeals to the mayor is that they would still say yes to that even with the headache that, you know, getting rid of Miller would would create. Right. If the race come to Seattle, they're like, hey, do you want Andy Diaz and Randy Rosa Rana for Bryce Miller? They're saying yes. And then they'll figure out the rotation later. But, yeah, also worth pointing out that trade market really hasn't gotten going all that much.

I mean, we had the big Soto trade. We had the big Glassnow trade, but that's really been it. Like, it's been a slow winter. And, yeah, we talked about this a lot. There are a lot of teams competing or who think they can compete for a wildcard this year. It is a weak free agent class. It's a year where more than half the league is crying poor and either cutting payroll or not committing to raising the payroll. And so you have a lot of teams who have to be very careful with their money, which means that they trade.

off their major league roster, they have to go and probably spend money to fill that role, and they don't have the money to spend, allegedly. So I think you're just kind of witnessing a perfect storm here where teams don't want to trade off their major league roster because they think they can compete for a playoff spot next year. Most of the league, most of the league is crying poor.

So they don't want to go out and spend the money on the replacement for the guy they trade. But if you don't want to trade off your major league roster, and everybody else in the big leagues doesn't want to trade off with their major league roster because they think they can compete next year, it's going to make deals really hard to come by. But I think that makes your asset even more valuable. So, yeah, I don't see the Mariners training Miller-Woo unless they're blown away. Like, I don't, like, you're not getting, like, I don't see the Mariners trading, you know,

Bryce Miller for Randy and Rosa Rana straight up. Yeah. I think they're going to be like, okay, what else? because I think the Mariners are more likely to be like, well, we'll just go trade for, you know, Brent Rooker and keep Bryce Miller.

We'll just go trade for Max Kepler and keep Bryce Miller, right? So, yeah, I think it's mostly just because I think the market as a whole right now is kind of waiting for the dam to break. Because, like I said, there's very few teams that are willing to spend money.

There's very few teams that are, you know, rebuilding, straight up. So it's just you have contenders trying to trade with contenders and you have contenders trying to trade off their major league roster with contenders trying to trade off with their major league roster. It's going to take a while to work out some deals.

And then somebody at some point is going to have to take that plunge and be kind of the first one to take the risk. That really typically not very Jerry to Potohy. He usually likes to wait the market out, see what happens, unless there's a deal that he feels as a slam dunk like the Teosker trade last year. So we'll see. But yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think the Mariners overestimated the value of Bryce Miller or Brian

Wu. I think this is just the league as a whole. You know, it's, it's kind of the whole like everybody's got their finger guns pointed at each other waiting for the other person to blink first. So we'll see what happens. But yeah, I think this is more of a league issue than it is the Mariners overvaluing their player issue. You're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen here on

a rare mailbag Tuesday. We got three more questions to go. Here's one from Danny. What's a better trade package? Max Kepler and Jorge Polanco from the Twins or Hassan Kim and Jake Cronowth from the Padres.

It's the Padres one. There's no trade package there. Well, yeah, that's the whole other discussion. But within the you know, for the sake of the question here, it's the Padres one for me because Kim is the best player the four that you mentioned in my opinion.

Obviously, there's a much longer term commitment to Kronomworth. It's like a seven-year deal. But also in terms of 20-24 money alone, it's fewer dollars than Kepler and Polanco. Kepler and Polanco are about $20 million. Cronomworth and Kim are $14 million. So from that aspect as well. And also, I think that there's a very, very, very good chance that Kronomworth is nowhere near as bad as he was this past year and that he's

a lot closer to being that four-wing guy that he was in in back-to-back seasons before this past year. Kim is one of the best infield defenders in all of baseball. A pretty good bat that's starting to come around as well. I really like Hassan Kim. So it's the Padres package, quote unquote, for me. Sure. If I try and consider what the actual trade costs would be,

I probably take the twins side just because that's going to cost me a lot less in terms of prospects and, you know, ammunition, essentially, not just dollars. And if Kim is the, you know, the best player in the deal, and I think he probably is out of that quartet, then I think it's reasonable to say the next two best players are Kepler and Kepler and Polanco just because they're not coming off of a bad season like Corona Wars. So interesting quartet, because you didn't give us any parameters for what the trades would look like and you just, which trade package is better. I don't know. I can't answer that specific question. If you're asking me, which duo I'd rather have? I'd rather have Kim and Croninworth. But if the price is different enough, like significant enough, then I would happily take the twins duo.

Like if the best player, the twins duo cost me is like, I don't know, like Tyler Locklear. the best player that the Padres package cost me is Bryce Miller. I'd rather trade Locklear for the duo than Miller for the Padre guys. Totally. Yeah. No, we definitely have to factor that in. But within the spirit of the question, I like the Padres duo more than the twins for sure.

Yep. But yeah, cost obviously matters quite a bit. And I do really like Polanco and Kepler. Yeah, it is. Can I pick two? separate trades and just get Kim and Kepler. Thank you.

Sure. Sure. Three team deal. Why not? You know, why waste time? Just doing a one fell swoop. All right. Next question here from Ryan.

It seems like we've signed slash drafted a lot of short stops the last few years. Who do you think has a skill to stay there? And who has the most potential at the plate? Skill to stay there, Tai Pete. He's the best athlete. And then best bat, Cole Emerson. But I think,

I think Emerson's probably going to end up being a third baseman. Royale's probably going to end up being a third baseman. Cole Young's probably going to end up being a second baseman. So, yeah. The correct answer is J.P. Crawford, who we did recently sign. So I'm just saying we want to get technical. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, Pete's the best athlete.

I think Young has the highest floor, like defensively. Axel Sanchez is interesting, but he's fading pretty fast here. I didn't even factor him into the equation. Bliss is not a short stop. He can play there in a pinch if you need him to, but he's a second basement. So yeah, it's Emerson, Young, Pete, in terms of who's going to be the best defender. I would say I would bet on Pete just because of the athleticism, but like who do I feel? like if I needed to play somebody to play shortstop tomorrow, who would I pick?

I would pick Young to play shortstop. I think who has the best shot to stay there? I actually think it's Young, which is kind of weird because I think Emerson is going to move to third. I think Pete is going to end up in the outfield. Like there is so much athleticism in Pete that I think he's a center fielder long term. And so just by that virtue, I think Young is the best shot to stay there. you know, best tools defensively, though, is certainly Pete.

Cannon for an arm, great athlete, moves well. But Emerson and Young, I don't think they're moving off a short because they have to, right? They're not, they're not Thai France trying to play third base, right? They can play that position. It's just they're going to be a little bit better somewhere else, and they'll get to the big leagues quicker that way, too. Yeah, maybe a better way to answer it is like who would be the best short stop out of all, Pete, to me. I think he has the upside to be the best shortstop out of all of them defensively.

Sure, he's got the ceiling. Yeah, for sure. All right, last question of the day comes from D. Panky. Do you think there's a possibility the Yamamoto signing by another club could be the most impactful signing for the Mariners this off season?

You think Jerry may be thinking and hoping a club who loses out on him may be desperate for Cassio or Gilbert and offer a lot? No, because how are you going to replace those guys? Like, I'd be very, very disappointed if they traded Gilbert or Cassio. You would obviously get a lot and who, you know, what else do they do after that?

I know there's a whole like rabbit hole we can go down here with all that. But look at some of the contracts these pitchers are signing right now. And then look at look at the deal that they just signed Luis Castillo for. And tell me how many of those pitchers that have signed recently you would actually take over Luis Castillo at that dollar figure compared to the dollar figure that Cassio's at. Not a lot. There aren't a lot of them. Luis Castillo is one of the greatest values in baseball right now. That's just fact.

Especially in terms of guys that have actually signed like a second contract or a first contract, however you want to look at it, right? Like obviously you would get a, I mean, in theory, you would get a pretty nice package back for either one of those guys. But I just, you have such a strength there. You have arguably the best pitching staff in all of baseball as is right now. I know you desperately need offense, but are you that desperate to possibly significantly downgrade your greatest strength on your roster? Well, it's like, maybe if you, how, how valuable is it to score one more run a game if you're giving up two more runs a game?

Yeah. It's not. And by the way, that's a great way to look at it. Yeah. Castillo is a fantastic bargain. I think it's what, five years, $100 and like 10 million or something. Like incredible bargain. Like he,

he would be the second best pitcher on this market and he would get $200 million. I really, I really think that. Maybe the only reason he doesn't is because he's 31. So maybe he only gets seven years and it taps out at 180-ish, something like that. But he's a $200 million pitcher that's making essentially half that. But how many teams in the league are going to want to add $21 million year pitcher?

We just talked about how half of the league is crying poor and saying they don't have money to spend. So you might not get what you need from Castillo anyway. So then it's, okay, now we trade Logan Gilbert. How many teams in the league have the ammunition to come get Logan Gilbert at a price that you are willing to accept? Maybe one or two, maybe. So I don't think, I don't think Jerry can trade these guys because I don't think he's going to get proper value. Like for Castillo, the one team that I could see, maybe who has the money and the, the prospect cap or the major league capital, whatever, to get Castillo.

Probably the Dodgers. Are the Dodgers still going to invest, you know, that heavily into the rotation now that they have glass now? Maybe, maybe not. But I just don't see the fit because, you know, again, for Gilbert. Well, and what am I getting, what am I getting from the Dodgers that's going to make it worth it? Is Michael Bush really that worth it for me? No, not at all. No, no, no.

You'd have to get. And obviously they traded Pepio, so they have fewer pitchers to trade from. I just don't see it. I don't see how you trade either of those guys and get fair value in a straight-up deal. To get value in a way that it's obviously your team is better because even though you took a major step back on the pitching front, your offense, like, I need, if I'm moving either of those guys, like, I need two, like, darn near for sure everyday bats plus like a, a, nice, you know, probably a starting pitcher back in return. And then that kind of defeats the purpose for the, I just don't see it. I don't see it.

I don't see enough teams willing to take on Castillo's contract. And if Seattle's eating money, then they've, they've already lost the plot. So could you get like Anthony Santon Dair, Austin Hayes and like, Gunner Henderson from Baltimore? Okay, fine. Then you can do that. Yeah, but the Orioles aren't going to spend $21 million on a pitcher. No, so Gilbert.

Oh, for Gilbert. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, then fine, you can do that. If you get that for Logan Gilbert, go for it, but you're not going to. Sure, sure, sure. So I just, I just don't see a way that they can actually move those guys where it makes any sense for this club. But even with Gilbert and the Orioles, too, like, Gilbert's going to get more expensive.

Right. Obviously, they can trade them. They can trade them, you know, like they wouldn't have any issue doing that. But still, like. Right. But if you're, but if you're Baltimore, right, like, you're not trading Gunner Henderson for, for him. maybe you trade Hayes and Santanderah, but if you're the Mariners, one year of Santon Darry, two years of Hayes, no, it's like, okay, what else are you giving me? Are you giving me Dean Kramer? Like, if it's Kramer and Hayes and, like, I mean, like, I'm not, I'm not taking Hess and

Kirstadt and Kobe Mayo for, for Logan Gilbert. I'm not taking that for Luis Castillo. So I just don't see any way they can actually get that done, like where it makes any sense, uh, for, for the mariners. So I think both those guys are staying put. If Seattle does move a pitcher, I think it's probably going to be Bryce Miller, but I'm not too confident they do. And I don't think they have to. I really don't.

I think they have enough in the farm system that they can go get a couple of just good solid bats without having to trade off in their major league roster. They're out there. They're out there. You might have to pay, you know, $1.25 on the dollar. But if that means you get to keep Bryce Miller and Brian Wu and Logan Gilbert, then just do it. Yeah. And I think the Mariners are, that's kind of what they're hoping to accomplish here. is to build the offense that they need

without trading Miller or Wu. Because again, I feel like if they were going to do that, it would have happened by now. And the only way that it's going to happen again is if they get that offer that they just can't refuse. Like, where it's just too good. Yeah, it's just too, too good to pass up on. That is going to do it for our show.

Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown-Maris podcast. We'll be back tomorrow. Not sure what we're going to be talking about because the mayor is still haven't done anything. thing. So, I mean, there was a report that's like they're the most aggressive or whatever it was on Jorge Salar. So maybe that leads to an actual signing. And maybe we'll actually finally have an emergency podcast to do. That would be nice. That's a legit, that's a legit source, by the way. So just because you've never heard of the person doesn't mean they're not a legit source. And he works for MLB.com, right?

Yep. He's very plugged into the Cuban baseball scene as well. I know a little bit about his work. He It's legit. But it also could be agent speak, right? Like the agent says, hey, float this out there for it. Because the Yankees and Jorge Saler, that doesn't make any sense. That makes no sense. That's like Albert Poulson of the Mariners a couple of years ago. Imagine paying like Jean-Carlastan and Jorge Saler like $45 million to be on the same roster.

After they just traded for Alex Redugo and Juan Soto and they have Aaron Judge. So there's no outfield. What I'm really saying is, like, imagine paying Giancarlo's Stanton like $27 million to be on the roster. Yeah, yeah. Those silly keys. They also have Anthony Rizzo, so there's no first base angle there either. That literally the Yankees make no sense for.

They're also trying to dumps for Jorge Salera for any of those guys. They're also trying to dump a boatload of money onto Yamamoto. So, yeah, I don't think the Yankees are looking for bats at the moment. not the top of the market bats. Anyways, so we'll see. Yeah. So that's going to do a fair show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown mirrors podcast for Colby.

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