Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Crush Gerrit Cole, Yankees in Luis Castillo's Debut

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

Luis Castillo made his debut for the Mariners, but it was the offense that stole the show on Wednesday, exploding for six runs in the top of the first inning against Yankees ace Gerrit Cole. Hosts Ty ...Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode recap the action, discuss the importance of Seattle even winning three games out of seven on its gauntlet of a road trip and how Jake Lamb will fit on the team's roster.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comStay up to date with all things Mariners at Inside the Mariners - a FanNation website covering the Seattle Mariners on the Sports Illustrated network.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11 | @InsideMarinersFor more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Blue NileMake your moment sparkle with jewelry from Bluenile.com. And, going on now is the Blue Nile Anniversary Sale … Save up to forty percent on classic fine jewelry pieces and twenty-five percent on engagement ring settings. Shop stress free and find your forever piece. Go to BlueNile.com today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Despite being short-handed, the Mariners have taken two or three from the Yankees on the back of some big offensive performances. We're going to look at Luis Castillo's strong Mariners debut today. Tell you why even winning three games on this road trip was still a success and how Seattle's deadline day additions will fit the club moving forward. All of that and more coming up here on the Lockdown Mariners post game show. Colby hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day.
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Starting point is 00:03:17 I gave away tickets to the what was it it was a Easter game or something in April I forget I gave away something. I did. I did. I said it's my card collection that's taking a hit, not yours. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I do have some cards. I don't have some, I don't have great cards, though. Do you have a George Kirby rookie, though? Signed. No. But I feel like that might be, that might stay in my collection.
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Starting point is 00:04:20 Now, let's get down to business. The Mariners. have taken a series from the Yankees at Yankee Stadium, despite being down Julio Rodriguez and Thai France for all three games. And they did it mostly because of their offense. Their offense was great the last two nights. They explode for six runs against Garrett Cole in today's game, including three home runs from A. E.
Starting point is 00:04:45 O'Swerez, Carlos Santana. And yes, Jared Kelnick came through with a two-run shot to make it six-nothing. in the top of the first inning. They were able to add another run later on in the game on a solo home run by Jesse Winker because Garrett Cole remembered that he is, you know, Garrett Cole. He ended up finishing the day with quite a few strikeouts
Starting point is 00:05:06 and 23 whiffs led the game and then some with 23 whiffs. But as good as the offense was today, I think we need to talk about the new guy. Luis Castillo, who was on the bump for the first time in a Mariners uniform, this afternoon. He goes six and two-thirds innings, had given up just one run
Starting point is 00:05:28 and was trying to complete a seventh full inning, but unfortunately gave up a two-run home run to Kyle Higashioka, and that ended his day at 109 pitches. But he was strong in this. He had eight strikeouts, give up three earned runs on five hits. What did you see out of the newest Mariner Ace? A guy with filthy stuff who had like 45 grade command.
Starting point is 00:05:53 manned for most of the day. More or less dominate a good Yankees lineup. Granted a lineup without Aaron Judge. Who? Yeah. I mean, that's not his fault. So, no, he was, the sinker was really good, ton of run on the sinker. He actually struggled to land that arm side all that often.
Starting point is 00:06:17 He missed outside to lefties quite a bit. You know, it was actually more the slider today that was kind of go-to-out pitch. It looked pretty good. You know, he threw hard. I topped out at 100 miles an hour on one pitch. Yeah, he worked a lot of three-two counts. He didn't get ahead of a lot of guys. The change-up, he didn't have a good feel for the change-up really at all today.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So it was kind of weird because, like, Castillo looked good. And there was a 10-hitter stretch there where he looked unhittable. But kind of around that 10-hitter stretch, he was. was for him, you know, 55 grade, Luis Castillo. So what you saw today at Yankee Stadium wasn't even the best Luis Castillo could be. And I think that should make Mariner fans pretty happy because he was pretty darn good, even with the, even with the struggles. And so some of that could be nerves. Some of that is just Castillo's going to do that sometimes. Sometimes he'll walk three guys. Like he doesn't have pinpoint control. He is definitely a stuff over command
Starting point is 00:07:23 slash control type of guy. But he pitches with a lot of energy, and you see how nasty the stuff is. The stuff is as good as anybody in baseball. And so it's entirely possible the Mariners have acquired a, let's say a soft two, maybe like a very, very good number three, and that he becomes the number one that they believe he can be
Starting point is 00:07:45 because the stuff is absolutely there. Control command today was just a little bit off, but we did see him paint. And also, you know, have to give kind of like the CB Buckner attacks when it comes to the the balls and strike there. So that yeah. Wow. There was probably six missed called strikes for Castillo in the fifth inning alone. Yeah, probably. You know, and it was on the edges, but it was very clearly in the zone. There were a couple of pitches too that were like definitively in the zone, weren't even touching the edges. Like you saw it on the UQC, uh, EQC tracer. and you know it was clear just right there smack dab right in the right in the zone and just
Starting point is 00:08:29 nothing from c v buckner silence absolute silence no motion whatsoever he's bad he is awful uh also took a walk away from jerry kellnick i don't think that kellnick swung on that uh on that 3 o pitch uh or 3 1 pitch whatever it was uh he ended up striking out and that about wasn't even close and uh yeah by the way that would have put runners on first and second you know against cole now I think Terenz was coming up next. Yeah, but still, you know, it's kind of good. I got to ask you, by the way. From, from Terenza's perspective, knowing that they just traded for Kirk Casale,
Starting point is 00:09:07 knowing that you're out of minor league options, knowing that you probably don't fit on this roster, how do you proceed the next few days mentally as a player, knowing that like you're probably getting DFA in the next week or two? depending on Casali's health. It's, it's tough. You know, it absolutely is. But at the same time, you're trying to put, like,
Starting point is 00:09:34 a performance out there that will get you into a favorable situation. I think it's almost a lock that Terenz will get claimed if he's put on waivers. Maybe you could sneak him through now with Severino still floating out there. I don't know, but he's going to get claimed. So you know that your days on the Mariners are numbered. you know, Luis is a smart guy. He's been playing, you know, big league baseball for probably longer than he should have been because he was a Rule 5 draft pick who, you know, got drafted way too early.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And you kind of torpedoed some of his development time. But yeah, it's going to be tough, you know, and you kind of soak it up. And you know the odds are that you're leaving this really good situation in Seattle for a less, you know, a less good situation. Because right now the teams that are, you know, behind Seattle or the teams that that are, you know, trying to claim Louise Terenz, they're probably not going to be good teams. So it's got to be tough. I suppose it's possible the Mariners do kind of a Phantom IL thing and then they can, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:35 Ben Chimp basically put him on the IL for a month and then just kind of have him finish out his year on a rehab assignment in Tacoma. Like they could finesse it that way, but that I think Torens would rather just, you know, take his chances somewhere else. So it's a bummer. You know, I'm sure Luis understands why he's not, like he's not stupid. he can read the writing on the wall here but it's got to be tough so you know it's it's you know sometimes we forget about the other side of things when you acquire somebody you have to you know
Starting point is 00:11:04 more or less sacrifice somebody off the big league roster so it's a bummer you know i've been a big louise turence fan but it's you know it's go time and he's just not performed whatsoever so it's unfortunate but he'll get another shot somewhere else uh i i can't imagine that he's going to slip through waivers here and, you know, he's probably got another week or so left until Cassie's up. But, yeah, it was another bad day for him. And, you know, he missed a couple of hangers that last year he would have absolutely blasted. So it's just, you know, it's unfortunate. It's, it's a tough situation to be in. But, you know, it's kind of part of the life of a, of a, you know, of a bench MLB guy. That's kind of the life you live.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Lastly, before we move on to our next segment, I'd be remiss not to mention J.P. Crawford, who, I mean, Colby, have you seen an individual defensive performance as good as J.P. Crawford had today? There's probably some Brendan Ryan games that I'm not thinking of right now. But, like, yeah, it was, it was startling. I kind of, you know, very, too. We had the line drive that he dove for. We had the really hard hit, short hop that he kind of had to adjust for. Then you had the relay throw early, which really turned the tie to that game. Because at that point, you know, Castillo wasn't really feeling it quite yet. And, you know, the Yankees were putting some balls in play against him pretty hard. And, you know, JP made that play.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And after that, you know, Castile went into cruise control until the seventh inning. So, yeah, it was a great day for him. And I think he even got a couple knocks today. So it was a really good day at the ballpark for J.P. Crawford. Yeah, very good day for JP That throw to home on the on the relay was ridiculous That was a seed from short left field To Louis Sarenz there to get the tag on
Starting point is 00:12:59 Was it Andrew Benatendi? It doesn't matter It was a great throw by J.P. Crawford Great day in the field by J.P. Crawford all over the diamond He saved the Mariners at least one run in this game if not more Just sensational sensational stuff Sensational stuff all around this was a great game for the Mariners and really all three phases from the offense to the pitching to the defense. They were spectacular for the most part today.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And they walk out of Yankee Stadium with a big series when they wrap up this gauntlet of a road trip. Three and four, which, you know, at face value isn't great. It's not amazing. But when you think about the teams that they had to face, the two best teams in the American League, and the fact that they had to play most of these games without Julio Rodriguez or Thai France, it's pretty, pretty impressive. And I think the Mariners should feel pretty good about themselves as they head back to Seattle and they get a much needed off day tomorrow.
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Starting point is 00:15:15 And thank you again for me. making us your first listen after the game. So this was a huge win for the Mariners because it gave them a series win. They ended up splitting the two series that they had on this road trip. They lost the one in Houston, of course, three games to four, three games to one. And then win this one, two games to one. And they end up going back home. They got a four game set in three days with the, with the Angels.
Starting point is 00:15:44 They're going to be playing a double header on Saturday to make up. for the second game that was postponed due to the lockout earlier this year in early April. But they're going to get a much needed off day tomorrow. They're expected to have Thai France back on Friday, maybe even Mitch Hanager as well. So things are starting to look up. Things are starting to get a little bit better for the Mariners in terms of their health. And they're starting to get guys back into the mix here. But they were able to do, they were able to survive here.
Starting point is 00:16:14 They, you know, this was very much a next man up type of. road trip for the Mariners. We even saw Jack Larson make his Major League debut at one point. They were pulling from every which way of this organization to piece this thing together and these guys were able to fight
Starting point is 00:16:30 and claw and stretch together three very crucial wins because had this been any less, I mean, that would have been a disaster for the Mariners, especially in terms of the standings because they entered this road trip, I believe, seven games over 500. I might
Starting point is 00:16:46 wrong. And, you know, had they lost most of these games, they would have been either back at 500 or hovering right around there. And no one wanted that. No one wants that. Even though that is a gauntlet, you expect that, you know, there might be some struggles there. This was huge. This was huge for the Mariners to avoid disaster. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, what do you think about what this team was able to do on this road trip? How impressed are you by this group of guys that, you know, despite being down some of their really big key pieces, were able to, to, you know, come through with, I would say, a fairly successful road trip. Yeah, I think you have to say it was successful.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You know, winning three out of four against, I mean, you lose the first, you lose the first, what, three of this road trip, whatever. You know, you come back, you win three out of five, I should say, against two of the best teams, probably the two best teams in the American League. It's probably not debatable. And you do that without Julio Rodriguez. you win two of the last three without Thai France also. It's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You also did that, by the way, without Logan Gilbert performing really at all. Gilbert was terrible last night. And yet you found a way to win that game. So you've kind of done it with some unique characters, let's say. Adam Frazier's had a very good road trip. Sam Haggurty came up big after his adventurous weekend in Houston. So, and, you know, Andres Munoz, who we hadn't seen for a while, came out. He was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So the Mariners have kind of, they found a way to win three of the last five against two very good teams. And they've done it without their two best players. And with one of their, one of their, you know, three or four best players not performing. I mean, like I said, Gilbert was terrible yesterday. So it's unique. They've done it differently. They scored 14 runs in the last two days. 15, 15 runs in the last two days.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And again, they've done that without Julio and they've done that without Thai France and they did it against Jamison Tyon and Garrett Cole. So it's one of those things where it feels like maybe Seattle's starting to get kind of its mojo back. Like they're starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel. They get the day off. It's not over. They have to play the Yankees three more times.
Starting point is 00:19:15 but after they play the Yankees, the month of August lines up very favorably. They get, I believe, now three Thursdays in a row off so they can kind of, you know, manipulate their rotation in their bullpen as they need to. So to me, I think, you know, this is three and four. They are six and seven, I want to say, since the All-Star break, which is, I mean, frankly huge because we talked about that 20-game stretch coming out of the break and how the team could go 10 and 10, that would be very very. impressive and we weren't even thinking that you weren't going to have Julio and
Starting point is 00:19:49 Thai France for a lot of that. It's still some work to do. You really want to take this series against the Angels because you know the Yankees are going to come in. You're going to get, you know, Garrett Cole again. You're probably, you might get Frankie Montes. We'll see when he makes his debut. And you're probably going to get like Nestor Cortez in there as well.
Starting point is 00:20:08 So you need to be, you need to prepare. You need to build up your win total a little bit because there's a decent chance you get swept by New York. as you just saw at Yankee Stadium, the Mariners can hang with anybody when they play well. So go against the Angels who still don't have Mike Trout, who just traded away one of their best starters, traded away their closer.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You got to find a way to win three or four against the Angels. And then, you know, after that, anything you get against the Yankees is kind of gravy. And then you start kind of this easier stretch of your schedule. Hopefully Robbie Ray has a bounce back game on Friday. And like I said, just find a way to win, you know, to win three or four against the team that you should beat. You know, I don't know if Otani's lined up to start in that series.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I assume he is. And if that's the case, well, then I guess you can lose the Otani start. Like, nobody's blaming you for that. But win the other three games. Is Trout playing in those games? I have not seen Trout back in the lineup yet. No. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:21:07 My guess is yes, just because Mike Trout likes to torture the Mariners, not fight them. Just torture them. He'll send other people to fight for him. But, you know, oh, yeah, first time we've seen the Angels since the incident. Oh, yeah. So we'll see how Team Oval reacts to that. That'll be interesting. Unfortunately, we won't get to see Castillo embarrass the Angels,
Starting point is 00:21:29 but I guess we'll watch him try and embarrass the Yankees for a third straight time. Yeah, so that's the other thing, right? You mentioned how tough the pitching matchups will be from the Yankees side of things. But, hey, the Mariners are going to be going after the Yankees with Luis Castillo. I think Robbie Ray is set up to pitching that series as well. So they're going to be in a good spot. George Kirby potentially. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 We'll see what they want to do with their rotation after the double header as well. Because right now they're kind of keeping a six-man rotation going because of the doubleheader. So we'll see how that all works out. Just don't let Marco Gonzalez face the Yankees again. Please and thank you. Yeah, with the off day on Thursday, you know. I'd be good if I never had to watch Marco. Gonzales pitch against the Yankees again. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You might, honestly, the way he's thrown right now, you'll probably cut off against the Yankees part and still be pretty accurate. Poor Marco. Just, it's, it is. So, so we know how Luis Castillo's going to fit. We know how Kurt Casale's is going to fit eventually when he comes back from injury. But how are Matt Boyd and Jake Lamb going to fit on this roster? Let's talk about it. In just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:23:13 or use your mobile device and learn more about the trends and action. Bet Online is where the game starts. So, you know, our feelings about the trade deadline yesterday, particularly what the Mariners did on deadline day, not the Castillo acquisition. Obviously, we love the Luis Castillo acquisition, but we felt like the Mariners could have done more yesterday before the 6 p.m. Eastern Time deadline.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But, you know, it is what it is now. at this point this is this is the roster these are the moves these are the players that the mariners are going to try and break their 20 year playoff drought with so how does it all fit together and there are a couple of pieces here that i'm kind of confused still as to how they're actually going to fit into the whole puzzle here of the mariner's roster especially once guys like mitch hanniger taylor tremell come back specifically i'm talking about jake lamb who with the dodgers through 25 games this year. You know, historically, he's been a third baseman
Starting point is 00:24:15 dating back to his days in Arizona. But this year with the Dodgers, he's only played first base and corner outfield. And I mean, the Mariners, the Mariners kind of have quite a few of those guys already on the roster. So like, yeah. And so it feels like if Jake Lamb were to, in theory,
Starting point is 00:24:35 take Dillam Moore's roster spot or Sam Haggaddy's roster spot, that the Mariners would be losing quite a bit of versatility here. So first of all, Colby, how the heck does Jake Lamb even get at bats? And second of all, who does he replace on this roster?
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah, so I imagine the Mariners are going to use Lamb basically how the Dodgers did, and that is almost exclusively against right-handed pitching. You don't want to use a roster spot on like a pinch-hitting specialist.
Starting point is 00:25:11 the guy has to be able to start a couple times a week. Otherwise, he's not worth a roster spot, which is why Dylan Moore should be sent down. But anyways, it's not the Dylan Moore hour. So basically, I don't know. It's kind of weird because honestly, what might make some sense here is weird as this is going to sound. It might make some sense to start Jake Lamb and left field against righties
Starting point is 00:25:34 and let Jesse Winker handle lefties. I mean, as weird as it sounds. But look at the numbers. Winkers. I bet it's saying. And that to your like softened in March. Baseball's crazy out here, man. But Jesse even looks better against lefties than he does righties.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You know, you're really struggling with that inside fastball coming from the righties. For whatever reason, it doesn't affect him from coming from the left side. So maybe that's the move. You have to do things unconventionally sometimes. And you have to treat Jesse Winker for the player that he is, not what you wish he was. I think there's a decent chance that Kyle Lewis gets sent down. I know the Mariners really like him, and I do too. Who doesn't?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Everybody likes Kyle Lewis. But he's had an awful road trip. He just doesn't look right at the plate. But Colby, he hit a home run. Great. And the other 12 at-bats? Yeah. And I was told Joe Gallo wasn't a fit on this team.
Starting point is 00:26:36 but hey you know what at least Joey Gallo gives you defense and base running you know who doesn't do that Kyle Lewis like I wish it wasn't true but I feel like people right now they're it's really sad man it is but I feel like people are dreaming on the Kyle Lewis
Starting point is 00:26:52 from 2020 from August of 2020 and that guy does not exist it's been two years he is never playing center field again he hasn't been like I think people pick out that month they're like look at that upside and it's like Yeah, for one month, if you look at the other three months, he's been healthy in his big league career.
Starting point is 00:27:10 He's been okay. He's been good. He hasn't been a star. Like, this is not an all-star upside guy. Maybe he would have been if it wasn't for the knee issues. But Kyle Lewis right now, honestly, Jake Lamb gives you a better shot than Kyle Lewis even. And I think they kind of want to use Kyle Lewis and Carlos Santana as kind of a platoon DH thing, which kind of doesn't make sense because Santana's better against lefties than he is righties.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So I don't know what the plan is with Lewis. He's kind of a wild card here. And he does have options. So you can't send him down. So you're kind of in this weird spot where there's a non-zero chance that Jake Lamb is with this team for like 10 days. And then he gets DFA'd. But I don't think Jerry has that in mind. I think Jerry wants to put him on the bench throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And I guess one thing to note is that in about a month you are going to be able to add two players to you. your roster. The rosters will expand to 28. So honestly, if I were Jerry, what I would do is I would, or if I were Jerry and Scott, Haggerty is going to be my backup like everything. He's my utility guy. I'm going to use Dylan Moore's injury
Starting point is 00:28:19 to essentially, you know, put him in AAA for a rehab assignment where he can play every single day. I can maybe try and make some tweaks here and there with him. Then I'll call him up in September, you know, for base running and defense. And then I'll allow Jake Lamb to kind of be
Starting point is 00:28:38 not exactly the fourth outfielder, but I mean, it's just, it's weird, right? Because right now the Mariners have, we know the Mariners are going to use 13 pitchers as long as they can, but they only have a seven-man bullpen right now,
Starting point is 00:28:52 which we know Scott does not like. He's been very vocal about that. So are you sending Kirby down? Like just, are you ping pong and George Kirby back and forth between AAA for the rest of the year? What are you doing? Like,
Starting point is 00:29:05 situation. Are you just moving someone to the bullpen permanently? I think when you look at Lamb in particular, I think he's going to have a role. And we know Cassali is going to be on this bench. We know that they're going to keep at least one of more or Haggerty on this bench. And then we have the kind of the platoon of Carlos Santana and Blank, right? And honestly, Santana and Lamb, it's pretty good platoon. So I think that's probably the move. And then, of course, we still have Panager needs to come back. We still have maybe Taylor Trammell. They might send him down. We'll see. It's just, it's a very weird puzzle. And I'm not quite sure where Jake Lamb fits. I think he can help. I just don't quite see the role yet. And even Jerry was pretty vague about what, how they're going to use him.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Kind of feel like he's going to end up getting any ins at second base. I do too. And I'm like, which is, which is a spot he's never played before. And he's like a fringe third baseman in his prime. And that. was a couple dozen surgeries ago. So I'm like, I don't know, man, because again, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:30:12 the DH platoon thing, fine, but you know you're going to want to cycle Hanager through there. Right? Like, of course you are. So I don't know. Right now,
Starting point is 00:30:19 the Mariners bench is, is what, Haggerty, Trens, uh, the other guys on the Mariners bench. Um, Haggerty Trens.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. Thanks. Wow. Haggerty Terends and then Sorry. How are you blanking on this? How are you? I want to see if you can get it.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I want to see if you can get it. I think you don't know either. I don't think you know this either. Well, technically it's Haggarty Terence Toro and like Santana Lewis and those guys are kind of just rotating through there.
Starting point is 00:31:03 All right. Well, then there, because Sally is obviously going to take Torenzo's spot. I think Lamb will probably take Toro's spot, right? And then I guess Hanager will take... And Travis Jankowski, of course. You totally
Starting point is 00:31:17 missed Travis. Oh, Jankeowski. Yes, how I forget? Travis Jankowski, King of the Bunce. It's just, it's... So, yeah, I mean, I would imagine that Kelnick goes down when Hanager's ready. That's the move there.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Lamb will replace Toro. Casali will replace Torens and then you have Haggerty and then when Dylan Moore is ready to go, I guess that's when they have to make a decision. Mm-hmm. And at that point, I honestly, I'd rather have Sam Haggary. It's not close. We could have a debate about Dylan Moore versus Kyle Lewis, but I'm not even entertaining
Starting point is 00:31:56 a debate between Kyle or Dylan Moore and, uh, and Jake Lamb because I think Jake Lamb can hit something. so I'm much more I'm very intrigued by what the Mariners think they have found in Jake Lamb in the 25 games that he's played this year because again that's a very small sample size but he's you know he's changed his setup at the plate
Starting point is 00:32:22 you know I'm not a swing guy so I don't know exactly what's gone into his changes and what exactly he's doing differently from last year but it looks different in his setup up. So, and that has kind of shown up as well in his numbers this year. He's running the second highest hard hit rate of his career and he's running the what is tied for his career high and barrel rate as well. So again, very small sample size, but it's interesting. It's interesting when guys reinvent themselves a little bit, especially someone like Jake Lamb who has, you know, gone through injuries and has how and has really struggled over the last, you know, five or so seasons since he's
Starting point is 00:33:01 was an All-Star back in Arizona. And, you know, hey, maybe it's a situation here where he's kind of going on a similar path to Brandon Drury, where, you know, Drury never was able to figure it out at the major league level, but now, you know, six or seven years into his major league career, he's kind of figured it out. He's been, you know, a highly, you know, productive major league hitter. So I'm interested to see what they have identified in Lamb. and how that all fits together.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I just think from a positional standpoint, though, it's a difficult fit for the Mariners. And, you know, it does kind of make me wonder, like, if they were willing to add a player like this, and obviously it was just for cash consideration, so it's not, this isn't an amazing comp, but, like, if they were willing to use a roster spot on someone like Jake Lamb, who plays corner outfield in first base,
Starting point is 00:33:58 why weren't they in on Trey Mancini? like you know right all i'm saying is tie and we probably wrap on this jake lamb is this year's jake bowers and there will be no jake bowers be smirching on this podcast bowers rangers forever and we're going to be the lamb chops or something like that we'll we'll figure out the name later yes the bowers rangers are slowly transforming into the the lamb chops or the lamb shanks or whatever we'll figure it out. You have suggestions, leave them down in the comments down below.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But, uh, yeah. Hey, don't pretend that Jake, that Jake Bowers didn't help last year at times. Don't even pretend he didn't, so. No,
Starting point is 00:34:41 no, special agent Jake Bowers was awesome. Love Jake Bowers. Jake Bowers. I'm Jake Bowers, Stan. I'm the co-president. The Jake Barrow of the,
Starting point is 00:34:52 of the Bauer Rangers. I, I feel like you were more like the, Rita, whatever her name was from Power Rangers, the villain. but okay. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I want to try and co-opt this. That's fine. I'm inclusive. It was, it was, it was my thing. It was my thing, actually.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You just, you just rode the co-tells. Wow. Okay, we can pull receipts on that. That's fine. We'll just see. Bowers Rangers, baby.
Starting point is 00:35:22 All right. We didn't really talk about Matthew Boyd there, unfortunately. Multi-en reliever. Jerry's already said what he is. He's a multi-any reliever. Mm-hmm.
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