Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Decline to Give Teoscar Hernández the Qualifying Offer

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Free agency has begun in MLB and Teoscar Hernández did not receive the qualifying offer from the Mariners, which has sparked a heated debate within the fanbase from multiple angles. Colby and Ty discuss whether or not it was the right move by Seattle's front office then scour the AL East for potential trade targets this winter.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Yesterday, the Mariners officially decided not to give Tay Oscar Hernandez the qualifying offer. Was that the right decision? We'll discuss and then scour the ALE East for potential trade targets for the Mariners coming up here on the Locked-on Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors.

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And if you want to hear from us even more, please consider sending up for our Patreon. You can now get a free seven-day trial to check out the show. The link, as well as their social accounts, is in the description of this episode. So later on in the show, we're going to look at the ALE East for potential trade targets for the Marrars, but we're going to start with the biggest piece of news coming out of Seattle yesterday. Take Oscar Hernandez did not receive the qualifying offer and will not have the burden of the QO as he enters free agency for the first time in his career. Colby, your thoughts?

Yeah, ultimately the right decision. This is something that we've gone back and forth on, you know, for the last couple months. and with you in particular, your thoughts and feelings have kind of rapidly shifted. All over the place. On what Tayosker did the night before. Right. Right. So, so yeah, but ultimately, I think...

What have you done for me lately? Sure. I mean, literally, lately. Yeah. Ultimately, though, I think they get this right because I understand a lot of people, you know, really wanted that draft pick after pretending like prospects didn't matter at the trade deadline. but, you know, this is a pretty big gamble, especially for a mid-market team. Teosker was not good.

He was not worth $20 million for you last year. There's really no indication that he was going to be worth $20 million for you this year. And it's a big risk to take if he accepts that qualifying offer. And I think a lot of people are out there assuming, like, oh, there's no way he would take it. I think the Seattle Mariners who have talked to Teosker Hernandez for the last few weeks who have talked to his reps the last few weeks, I think they probably have. have a better handle on how, you know, interested a player is on, on possibly taking that

qualifying offer because Teo is not going to get $20 million a year on the open market. He's probably going to get more than $20 million total. Like, he'll probably get a three-year deal worth, you know, $50 million or something like that. I wouldn't give them that personally. But they're probably a team out there. But this idea that you on Twitter or you in the comments know more than, you know, people who are literally talking about this very thing with the player. Probably not.

So if Teosker was noncommittal about not taking it, if he hinted that, you know, he was open to taking it or anything like that. Seattle just didn't want to take that risk. Because you can do better than Teosker Hernandez for $20 million. Right. I mean,

you can. Teosker is a 105 WRC plus guy who's a bad defender in right field. There's like 150 guys who, can give you a 105 WRC plus who are available right now. And most of them are probably better defensively than Teosker as well. So, and most of them are going to cost less than $20 million. So this is all about resource allocation. We would like to pretend that Jerry DePoto and Justin Hollander have unlimited resources to build this baseball team.

And they probably should. That's a John Stanton issue. But they don't. We know they don't. We know they're not going to. So you still have to be wise and smart with your money. And if you thought that there was a chance that Teoska Hernandez was just going to take $20 million and have the second or third highest AAB on this roster going into next year, you can't take that risk because you can do more with that money. So to me, I think it's ultimately the right decision.

Would it have been a disaster if they had given it to him? No. And it's also not a guarantee that he would have taken it. There's no guarantee that he wouldn't have. And there's also no guarantee that he won't resign here still. Like he's just a free agent. There's he hasn't left yet. Although I think he probably should and will.

But yeah, that this is, I think ultimately the right decision. It's not a, it's not a no-brainer. Like I said, if they had done it, I can certainly understand why they took that shot,

but they decided not to. And I think ultimately it was the right decision. And, you know, regardless of whatever contract to Oscar gets, you can't, you're not going to throw that in my face and be like, see, I told you because he's,

not getting that contract with the qualifying offer attached to him. So, yeah, it just, it's, there's a lot of variables here. And I have to trust at this point that the Mariners know more than I do or more than you do, who's, you know, tweeting in all caps about how stupid they are. I have to assume that they know more about what this player's intentions were. If they did give him the qualifying offer, then you do, who has no information whatsoever. So, right. Ultimately, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, but this is what I would have done too.

So I don't have a problem with it. And, you know, if you don't like it because, you know, the draft pick, I think you're kind of full of it. If you don't like it because, you know, you thought Tosker was a good fit here. I hope I didn't see any of, see you complaining about strikeouts in the comments section all year. So, you know, just some consistency is all I'm looking for. But ultimately, I think they made the right decision. But I do understand some aspects of the people who don't understand. No, I totally get it.

I even, you know, partly understand the whole, why should we trust that they do have a good feel for his market when they've openly said over the last couple of markets that they haven't had a good feel for it. But I think it's a little bit different when we're talking about one guy and talking about one guy that's been around you for the last few months and you've been talking directly with his camp about this. Because look, these conversations don't just start at the end of the season. These conversations happen over the course of the season as well. And so they've, had a very good idea of, you know, what Teo's intentions are. And if there is any indication there that he might be willing to actually take the qualifying offer. And I think if they received or they understood that there was a chance that he would take it, then this was the best decision. Because at the end of the day, look, we need to live in reality. John Stanton is probably going to restrict Terry to Poto and Justin Hollander financially this offseason. that's just the reality of things.

Whether that's a good or bad thing, it's a bad thing is a completely separate conversation, but that's just what it is. And so because they have to live within the confines and work within the confines of what John Stanton has said, $20 million is a lot of money. That might take a significant chunk out of what they're able to spend this off season.

And the fact of the matter is running it back with Teia, that doesn't fix the problem here. You can't just run it back with your 2023 roster. And at that number, that might be the best player you acquire this off season. And that's just, again, just running it back. So look, I get the frustration. I get the frustration over the draft pick and all that.

But to me, it's just not worth it. It really is. We're talking about essentially a glorified third round pick here. It's not worth the risk. And again, I don't think that. the chances of him taking the qualifying offer were high because the home road splits. If he's looking to just reestablish his market on a one-year deal, he should go do that elsewhere.

He's probably going to have a better chance of doing that and getting back to that 120, 130 WRC plus guy that he was before coming to Seattle elsewhere. Again, I'm not saying that the chances of that are relatively high either, but I think they're higher elsewhere than in Seattle, of course. Higher odds if you're in Chicago or Boston or. Toronto, one of the launching pads. So I don't think that, you know, that he would have taken it probably in all likelihood. But to act like there was an absolute zero chance that it's a slam dunk that he would not take it

and that you basically just burnt a draft pick for no reason is silly. I think that insinuation is really silly because, look, we've seen this over the past with guys coming off of, you know, down years that have had the qualifying offer attached to them that have had to wait a long time. Obviously in better markets and again, you know, guides like Teo are probably going to benefit from the fact that this is a terrible market for hitters. But we've seen in the past guys have to wait a long time and see their earning potential in both dollars and even years decrease because they've had that qualifying offer attached to them. And some guys have had to wait until like spring training or even beyond that

to sign with a team because they've had the qualifying offer attached to them. So I don't see team like I just can't foresee teams lining up out of the door given the year that he just came off of and the fact that you know depending on what bracket you fall in as a team you might have to give up a second round pick or a third round pick or a second and a fifth round pick to sign him I just especially with how you know cheap teams are and how risk-versa lot of teams are I just I have a hard time envisioning that happening and so that's all to say that I think that there was chance that Teo would get to a point in his market where just, you know, one year, $20 million makes the most sense for him.

And while the situation probably isn't the most beneficial for him in terms of reestablish in his market, at a certain point, you just got to take the money, right? And just take a chance on yourself and bet on yourself. And so, again, I think it's probably like a 5% chance at most that he would have taken the qualifying offer, but it's the non-zero chance. And there's a lot of people out there acting like it was just flat out zero. I just, I don't buy that personally. So I think at the end of the day,

this was the best decision that the Mariners could have made. And the third round pick to me is, like it would be cool to have, especially for us. We like the draft and all that. And obviously the bonus pool money that comes with that as well, you know, allows you to do some creative stuff with the rest of the draft.

But overall, I don't think that's like a huge deal. I don't, I'm not losing sleep over a glorified third round pick. I'm just not. So, yeah. We'll see if maybe they were negotiating an extension before the deadline yesterday. So maybe there is still some interest there in bringing him back.

I doubt it. I think they want to go elsewhere. But who knows? Maybe they do really like Teo and they do want him to be a part of this thing. And I get it. And I get teams that will show interest in him that might think that he's better than what he was this past year. But there are some very concerning signs of decline in Teo's game right now. and it's pretty hard to ignore.

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Thank you again for making us your first listen. So we just talked about the day Oscar Hernandez's qualifying offer situation. Now we're going to turn our attention to the AL East and continue. our trade preview, our division by division trade preview. We've done the ALS, done the ALS, done the AL Central. Now we're doing the ALEs. We're going to start with the Toronto Blue Jays. Teo's former team.

So anything on the Blue Jays that you are interested in from the Maris perspective, Foley? Yes and no. I mean, nothing that seems that realistic. You know, there is a, you know, a big, like a big deal that could be made where Seattle trades like Logan Gilbert and stuff and the Blue Jays give up Bo Bichette and stuff. Like obviously it wouldn't just be a straight one for one.

But that seems unrealistic. But, you know, they are going to have to pay Boe soon. They're going to have to pay Blattie soon. And, you know, they just, they're not going to have the ability to pay both of them what those guys are going to want, at least in theory, because they also have Gossman. I mean, they have George Springer, who's, you know, kind of an interesting guy. if his salary wasn't so high.

So not a ton there. Like I don't think you're getting anybody out of the Jay's pen. You're probably not getting Swanson back. Adam Simber is kind of interesting. Jimmy Garcia might be traded. There's been some rumblades about that. So maybe. I'd be,

yeah, I'd be interested. Yeah. So Adam Simber, but he's probably getting on Tinder, so I don't think you have to go to trade route. Some guys in the bullpen that makes them sense. but really in terms of like the the big guns,

the rotation and the lineup, not really like the catchers don't make sense. Vlad and Bo are going to cost you, you know, Gilbert and that's just a huge deal. Yeah. They don't have anything at third and their outfield is, I think right now,

Dalton Varshow, yuck, no thanks. So yeah, I just, I don't see a ton here in terms of major league talent. Again, unless, you know, both teams want to go and pull off the most shocking trade of the offseason and, you know, flip a couple of their, their all-star, young all-star players. I just don't see anything here, aside from maybe a bullpen piece or two. And, you know, I do like the idea of George Springer, like, if you can get the money down a little bit. Right. And get them obviously pretty cheap.

But, you know, not a ton here. Yeah. Maybe Jimmy Garcia, maybe Santiago Aspenal, maybe Cabin Bigeo, but. there isn't a lot here josh rohoss is better than those guys so the orioles the orioles are in a very interesting position they just won 100 plus games they you know won their division they had a disappointing effort in the playoffs and a big reason for that is the pitching right their rotation needs to be a lot better than it is right now and so you know putting two and two together here Bryce miller Brian woo those guys could make sense but I don't know if there's necessarily a perfect fit in terms of a return here from Baltimore. Yeah, because you don't want to trade those guys for prospects. And that's really where Baltimore's value is right now. You're not trading either of those guys for one year, Anthony Santander,

who does fit Seattle a little bit, although he's a bit overrated, but still he would help. Cedric Mullins is coming off of kind of a mediocre year. He's a fun player. He's got two years left. probably still not enough for woo or Miller and make no mistake Baltimore is going to prioritize pitching it's their biggest

weakness by far and they're not going to go out on the market and you know get in the in the Blake Snell Jordan Montgomery you know Aaron Noel like they're not going to go out for the top guys and they're probably not going to have much luck getting like Michael Waka or or somebody in that middle tier so yeah they're going to have to trade and they're going to want to trade their their prospects

and while they have some good prospects, certainly, some guys who would make sense on paper. For Seattle, you're not trading Miller-A-Woo for prospects. You want somebody who can definitely help you this year. And, you know, like Jordan Westberg, you're just so confident that that guy's going to help you this year. Yeah, Colt Kouser, Pessonor, Norby, like, yeah.

Yeah, I mean. I like those guys. I like those guys. I just, I don't know if that makes sense for where the marriage is currently at. I wish you had another Bryce Miller in the in the miners. And I think that's like fair valuation in general just in a vacuum like Miller for a couple of those guys, Miller for, you know, Kouser and Norby and, you know, maybe someone like Ramon Urias or something like that. Like that makes sense on paper.

But for the Mariners in general, like where they're at right now, I don't know. I don't know. Because I just, I think you need more dependability, especially when you're trading away from your greatest strength, right? when you are diminishing your greatest strength, which is your rotation, you got to do that for something that you can sink your teeth into. And I just,

well, Colton Calzer is one of the best prospects in baseball right now. I don't know if he's going to be anything for me in 2024. He wasn't really anything for the Orioles in his cup of coffee in 2023. So why do I think that's going to change in 2024? Why do I think that that's going to change

for Jordan Westberg in 2024? So again, I like these guys, you know, like if there's a prospect for prospect swap where the Mariners get like Connor Norby or something that that can happen, I'm totally for that. I just, yeah, I, I, I just, I'm a little bit hesitant on in terms of trading Miller

or Wu for, for any of those guys. Right. If Hancock was a little bit better, maybe. But he's just, the value doesn't line up. So unless we're talking about like Santander and Kobe Mayo for like Bryce Miller, right, that's just really not going to be there. So, and that's really what you're looking for here. There's not a ton that you're going to try.

grade to Baltimore, that, you know, is going to make sense for them if it's not one of your two young pitchers. So, you know, there might be some minor, minor deals here or there, but I just don't see a ton. You know, I don't, I just don't see that good of a match because, again, I don't think Seattle is going to be interested in taking a prospect, you know, headline deal for one of their young arms. I think they'd rather lose club control and get a better player than just do a club control swap of two players of you know Miller and somebody who you hope will give you the same value that Miller did last year and probably more so I just don't see it so the Tampa Bay raise the mayor has already made a trade with them as of yesterday but minor league trade

uh Blake Hunt who did they trade for Blake Hunt oh okay Blake Blake Blake or uh Tatum Lovens um Yeah, so the raise, though, have some other pieces that are pretty interesting, as far as the mayors are concerned. Do they, though? If you're subscribed to the Patreon, you know, you might know a little something about our feelings about the raise and potential trades. Yeah, so, I mean, look, it obviously starts with Radio Rosarena is someone that we've talked about a lot over the last few months. there's no indication that he's actually available, but it would make sense. He's starting to make money.

The raise are obviously very cheap. Mark Topkin is like the Brian Divish of Beat Reporters in Tampa. He's said that Harold Ramirez is pretty much like going to get traded this offseason along with a couple other guys. Seems like Tyler Glass now is going to get traded. I don't think the Marys would have any interest in that unless they're trading, you know, Miller or Wu. Maybe.

maybe they would be interested in that after that. But yeah, it's really for me, it's a Rosa Rana, it's Ramirez. We've talked about Brandon Lau a bit. There's some guys in the bullpen if you're looking to beef up your bullpen. There's options here. Got to be careful with who you acquire out of that bullpen. Right, right, right. Yeah, you know, some other guy, Isok Paredes would be a great addition,

but it doesn't really have the exit bellows and the hard hit rates that the Mariners tend to value. So there's some question about how that power. would play. You know, there's some, you know, minor league, or not minor league guys, some like bench guys that could be of interest to Seattle, Taylor Walls. Maybe Austin Shinton is a guy who we talked about it. We know the Mariners tried to acquire Shinton,

for to Oscar Hernandez at the deadline. But yeah, you Mitch Harold Ramirez. Yandy Diaz, maybe, but probably not. Yeah. If you're looking for, you know, like who's the Bryce Miller equivalent, you know, you might want to look at Josh Lowe. he's an interesting guy. Luke Rayleigh is certainly a guy who could fit here.

There's a lot of guys, obviously, in this lineup and on this team that make a lot of sense for Seattle. And Seattle has some pieces that are certainly going to make sense for Tampa. So these two teams always perpetually good trade partners. That's the case again this winter. And these are two front offices that are very willing to get creative. They are willing to move money around. and so they're willing to, you know, maybe it's Harry Ford and Jared Kelnick for Josh Lowe and, you know, I pick a pitch, Taj Bradley, I don't know, like there are guys that are going to get talked about and thrown around that we're not even expecting. Tampa Bay is far and away the best trade fit for Seattle in this division.

Agreed. That's, I mean, literally take anybody on their 26-man roster right now, and I could look at it and go, like, I could see a way that that would make sense for Seattle. Right. Right. Yeah, and obviously the marrists have some pieces that the raise would, you know, in theory be interested in. I think Bryce Miller, Brian Wu, those guys would be of interest to them for sure. They're trading glass now. Especially if they're trading glass now.

And, you know, Shane McClan is going to miss what all of 2024. I believe Jeffrey Springs is going to miss at least half of 20204 if not all of it. And Drew Rasmussen as well is supposed to miss at least half of 2024 as well. So they're really banged up in that rotation. So I would assume that they're going to have quite a bit of. interest in guys like Miller or Wu. Dark Horse. This is a place to look for Logan Gilbert.

Yeah. We talk about like what would it take to get Logan Gilbert? Do any teams even have that type of ammo to come and get Logan Gilbert from you? There's only a couple. The raise are one of them. Because they can offer you major league talent. Yeah. And prospects.

And quite a bit of it. Yeah. Another another guy that I would happen. But Logan Gilbert, this is one of like the three teams that. I could actually see Gilbert getting traded to this winter. Another guy I would keep an eye on that would go from Seattle to Tampa is prospect Tapeet. The race really wanted Tai Pete in the draft last year.

And the mayor has selected him one spot before the raise. So, you know, if they do swing a bigger deal where like a Rosarena is involved or Harold Ramirez is involved or Josh Lowe, someone like that, maybe Taipeed is involved in that deal as well. So keep an eye on that.

But yeah, There's a lot of possibilities here with the raise. So I definitely keep an eye on them. I don't think the Blake Hunt trade is going to be the only trade. Those two teams make this off season. But we'll see. You're listening to the Lockdown Marys podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen.

Before we get back into our trade targets here, I saw someone in the comments say they wanted to see the tattoo that I got for when we did their charity event. I guess some people didn't see it. So there you go. It's real. I got it. That's real.

That's a thing that I did. you know people wouldn't have these questions if you had if i did the video yeah i know yeah yeah sometimes people promise things then they back out so uh hopefully we're uh i think we're we're playing on doing another fundraiser sometime this this off season uh so i i don't really have any illusions that will get 15 000 raised again but yeah you guys want to prove me wrong but you won't because you're lazy right right that didn't work last time no it didn't um but again i think that was mostly timing but yeah so hopefully we'll announce something in the next couple weeks i'm not sure what we have to do uh with you know legal and all that stuff

but right we do definitely want to do another fundraiser uh the last one was a lot of fun to track and and you guys really stepped up so uh and this time colby's gonna get a tattoo on his face i'm not agreeing to that he is he will nope nope All right. So the Boston Red Sox, this is not particularly great trade fit for the Marys. I don't see a lot here that the Marys would be interesting for Dugo. Yeah, even then. I mean, like, if he's your third best bat, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.

But like, yeah, I mean, that's fine. But like at the end of the day, like, take them or leave them. I don't know. I don't care. Pitching wise, there isn't a whole lot like the bullpen, not really. ton there. Yeah. Just,

not a lot. The Red Sox are a team that they're going to, I bet the Red Sox are going to be pretty heavy. Like a lot of people think they're a dark horse for Otani. I don't think so. But I bet that they're going to be pretty heavy on Montgomery, on Snell, on Nola.

I can see them being, you know, pretty interested in like a Reese Hoskins type. Like, so I think they're going to spend money. Yeah. But what's on their roster currently, not,

not good. Not great. So we'll see what happens and who might become a bit. Like you're not getting Tristan Casas or like maybe you get Bobby Dollback in like a throwaway deal. I get a Seattle guy back home. But he's not really a Mariners type of guy either. But maybe, you know, for roster depth. I'll throw a one name at you.

Okay. Just because I know that it's going to make you a little upset here for sale. Oh, okay. That the human man baby. Right. Yeah. He's got one year left on his deal. He was okay last year, but it's for $27 million.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. It's a lot. So, yeah. That's pretty much it. Like, I'm just trying to get a name here for you. Yeah. I mean,

like, is he still a thing out there? Yeah, he's still a thing. I don't know. He only threw 21 innings this year. So I'm going to, I'm going to assume he got hurt. Maybe not. I don't know.

There's just not a time. Actually, he threw 59. Oh, did he get traded? I think he got traded I think he got traded I don't remember that yeah to be fair I was so focused on what the Mariners didn't do at the deadline I didn't really pay attention

what did happen right uh two yeah he got traded to the Dodgers ah okay but I think he's a free agent now okay not even him then pretty much for dogo yeah maybe like Garrett Whitlock or Brennan Bernardino former mariner he had a really good year

I know relative to you know, mid-lovers, relievers, but yeah. Sure. No, I don't see either of those guys. So I think it's pretty much for Dugo and maybe Bobby Dahlbeck. Yeah, I don't see a match here. All right. Lastly, the Yankees, who I also don't really see much of a match here, I know a lot of people

were like, Glabert Torres. I don't know. Here's some Teoska Hernandez to Glaver Torres. I also believe Ryan Divish said that there's like some concerns about his work ethic. I think when he was on with Ben Reneery. So I don't know if that necessarily aligns with the mayor's philosophy either. Now, you know, Jesse Winker was here. I mean, was Winker a work ethic guy though?

Apparently. He just fall off a cliff. Apparently it was a work ethic thing that rubbed the clubhouse the wrong way. Isn't it a lot easier to sell that on a one-year deal? Sure. I just, I don't know if they were going to, you know, even tip their toe into that pool. We'll see. That's kind of like the only guy, though, that I look at.

I'm like, that makes some sense, at least in terms of, you know, just pure baseball. I like Anthony Rizzo's fit in T-Mobile Park. I like his fit in the clubhouse. He's kind of that established vet who's well-respected in the game, a good vibes guy. But that contract is bad, and he was bad last year. unfortunately played with an undiagnosed concussion for most of the year. That's so brutal. I mean,

that's a different story that we could out of the Yankees and catch that, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, aside from, I just don't think that that contract is going to lend itself to be in a good trade possibility. If Seattle doesn't bring back Tom Murphy, Trevino or Ashioka could make some sense as a backup catcher. Oswald Parraza or Oswaldo Cabrera Maybe

DJ LaMayhew I was going to bring him up Maybe Probably not But let me look up his contract just so I'm I'm sure on that It's not awful but it's not you know cheap Yeah he's he's making 15 a year

But he's he's 35 He's declined a bit Just a 101 every year I see plus this year. He can play second. He can, you know, play a little bit of third, play some first. So it makes sense from that perspective.

But again, he's, he's older. And he's making a good chunk of money. I mean, if you're able to get them to eat some of that money, maybe I'm interested. It's just, I don't know. He's due $45 million over the next three years. Yeah, it feels like a, like a Gino for Lamehu swap. and I'd probably just rather bank on

I'd rather just have a dino. Yeah. You know, some guys in the bullpen, Tommy Canely, you know, Clay Holmes of the Yankees really want to. Yeah, Michael King. Yeah, like there's some dudes, but for the most part,

it's not a ton here. Is it a backup catcher? Maybe you get one of the catchers. Rizzo is a guy I really like. I like the fit really well. I don't like the contract. And so it's, it's probably a,

no go there. And then, yeah, maybe if you want to take a shot on Oswaldo Cabrera, who's flashed at the big league's level, but was terrible this year. So, yeah. Some, some, you know, role players, uh, but nothing I don't see. It's just not a very good division in terms of, you know, how they line up with Seattle. Baltimore and Tampa really carry the, the day here. Yeah, it's, it's like Tampa's here, Baltimore's here, and then everyone else is like

somewhere down here. So, yeah. I'd say Toronto is really only interesting if you're talking like trading Logan Gilbert or something crazy like that. And then Boston and New York, I just don't even know what they're going to do this offseason. I don't know what their plans are, but those are not very good rosters. So there's definitely some minor pieces you could pick out of that, but nothing that's going to, you know, tip the scales drastically. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not interested in a whole lot from those teams.

Yeah, that's pretty much the story here with the AL. The Marys are going to make a trade with one of these teams. It's probably the race. Pretty good chance it's going to be the race. I mean, they've already made a trade with the race, but I think if they're going to make another trade with this division, the rest of the way, it's probably with the raise. Maybe the Orioles.

But again, that doesn't make a ton of sense for where the Marys are at, unless they're able to get a pretty solid deal on someone like Cedric Mullins, which I just can't envision. We'll see. All right. Before we get out of here, Colby, do you have a question of the day for the folks down in the comments? I mean, not really a serious one, but you guys seem to like the, the, uh, were they on a break. Yeah.

And if they were on a break, they were broken up, which means Ross didn't cheat. He's still a scumbag, but for different reasons. Anyways. Sure. So I guess I'll just follow up with this. I mentioned that Mariners Twitter needs like a celebrity boxing night or something. So let me just ask you. you guys this me versus tie in the ring who you take it right we'll go what three rounds yeah three

round fight who you take five make five sure make it 12 bring it on yeah make a 12 make a 12 make a 20 don't want to bounce around for like yeah that's gonna do a fresh show thank you so much for joining us here on the locked on marrace podcast for colby pad note i'm citing gzalas be sure to give us a follow on twitter at l o underscore mariners you can follow me at d nz lc and g nzlc and colby at cpad 11 that's cpat 1-1 you can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode. Thank you again for making us your first listen to have yourself a beautiful baseball day.

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