Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Mailbag: Free Agency vs. Trades, Koudai Senga's Market and More

Episode Date: December 10, 2022

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We got the winners picked. We're going to be announcing those at the end of the show. and if you do skip forward come on back because we are going to be going through some of your questions. We asked you guys on Twitter to send us your Mariners questions or non-baseball related questions, but we're only answering Mariner's questions because that's really all you guys asked today. So let's get into the first question from Max. Who would you rather trade for Brian Reynolds or Randy a Rosa Raina? Which is the better deal?

which would cost more. Better fit? Also, do we know if the Mariners, or rather the Rays, want to deal Randy? Love the show. So Colby, you've talked about playoff Randy quite a bit. So what do you think? Brian Reynolds, Randy at Roserana. Who are you going with? Yeah.

So in a vacuum, I would pick Brian Reynolds. I think he's a better fit for Seattle. Switch hitter can play some center field, just a better overall player as well. but I think the two players are close enough in value to me that if a Rosarena were to cost significantly less, which seems unlikely. But if that were the case, then I would target a Roserena. The interesting thing about a Roserina is that we don't know that the race are necessarily shopping him, but he has a lot of people's like favorite dark horse trade candidate because the race do stuff like this all the time. So nobody in Tampa is really ever off limits, I guess, except for maybe Wander Franco right now.

But Tampa's a weird team. They'll do stuff like this. And then they'll trade guys. They don't have to and they'll trade them for bulk sometimes. And you're just, they do some weird stuff, but it usually works out for them because they're smart. But when you just look at a Rose Arena and Reynolds, I think Reynolds is a better fit. I think that he checks more of the boxes the Mariners are currently looking for. than Randy a Rose Arena does.

You play a little bit of center field if you need them to. Going to be really good in a corner. Better hitter. Probably lose some stolen base ability. But that's about it. So I just think, I just think, you know, Reynolds is a better player, quite honestly, and I think he's a better fit in Seattle.

So in a vacuum, again, I would say, I would say Reynolds, if you tell me that, like, Reynolds is going to cost. Brash, Kelnick. you know, Harry Ford and Emerson, Hancock, or I can get a Rosaneda for the same deal, but like I get to keep Hancock or something like that, then I would take a Roserina. But I just don't see that being likely because Roserina has four years of club control left. Reynolds has three.

So despite that, I would still say, I would still pay for Brian Reynolds before I would pay for Randy at Rosenerana. Yeah, a Roserana has the extra year of club control, but he's also never been a six-war player before. So I think the value is at the very least even out and I believe you mentioned this that, you know, the teams are differently. So I think the trade packages would vary quite a bit between the two teams and what they would want. So but for me, my pick is Reynolds. I just like the player better. I think he's more, you know, it's more realistic that he's traded this off season than Randy is because Randy is entering the first year of arbitration, but he's still not making a significant amount of money. The rays don't have to move off of them.

Maybe when we get to year three of arbitration, but we're only at year one right now. Then it becomes a conversation. I mean, maybe next year we'll see. The rays are weird, like you said. But I just, I don't think that Randy is going anywhere, at least of this soft season.

And so that's part of the reason why I'm going with Reynolds. And again, I just, I like the player better overall. All right. Next question comes from Scott Hilton. Would you prefer the Mariners incremental get better and he puts in parentheses Wong and Teo type deals and lose farm talent or work similar to teams like the guardians, Phillies, Padres, Astros who were all as good or better than the

Mariners last season and add needle moving pieces. I personally would like the team to pack in around the talent that's there instead of just inching forward at the expense of future depth. If Reynolds and Nemo are similar war players, wouldn't you prefer they spend money instead of prospect talent. Colby? Well, first of all, I would ask Max, is that who asked the question? I would ask him...

No, no, no, Scott. Scott, Scott, sorry. Sorry, Scott. I would ask you, you know, like what needle moving moves have the Guardians and the Astros made this winter? Because the Astros are an objectively worst team right now than they were on the last day of the World Series. They've lost Justin Verlander. They don't seem to have any real desire to go replace them in free agency. They have options.

But come on. They're not going to be Justin Burlander in year one. They added a brayu, which is nice, but they're still in a deficit right now. They are a worst team than they were at the end of the World Series. And the Guardians added Josh Bell. Like, Teosker Hernandez is every bit as good of a player and better than Josh Bell. So why is Josh Bell a needle mover, but Teosker Hernandez isn't? I would also ask, you know.

By the way, Taye Oscar and Nandez and Colton Long both had a higher F4 in 2022 than Josh Bell. Right. And they build bigger needs. So I would also ask, you know, what talent, farm talent have they given up this offseason? Adam McO. I mean, Maco is a nice prospect, but he's a guy who was on the way down in most prospect ranks. He had trouble throwing strikes. He had trouble seeing healthy.

He's a six foot, nothing lefty, who right now is probably headed to, the bullpen. Now, I still like Adam McO. I think he's a good talent. But that's it. You've given up a lottery ticket and you're sacrificing your farm talent? They haven't done that yet. And they did it to get a player who's an upgrade. And that's kind of the other thing is that Colton Wong and Teoscar Hernandez, they're not menial upgrades over what you had last year. They're significant upgrades. Teoscar Hernandez in a bit of a down year was still a 127 WRC plus guy, still a two and a half win player. He's a three, three and a half one player.

And you know what? He's going to play every day. You can't say that about Mitch Hanigar, and you can't say that about Jesse Linker. He's an, he's an impressive upgrade. And, you know, fun note from basically June 1st on,

Teasca Hernandez and Julio Rodriguez were the same hitter. It's striking how, how similar their numbers are from that point on. So, and Colton Wong is a significant upgrade. If he just repeats what he did last year, the Mariners will have improved their offense of output at second base by 40%. That's not small. That's not nothing, right? That's pretty significant.

So you ask, would you, would you rather add impact or, you know, kind of build around the edges? Well, obviously the answer is impact. I would like impact. That'd be great. But you can get to a hundred wins a lot of different ways. And the Mariners have added, while they may not be huge names, they have added impact to their lineup. And we're only, as weird as it is, we're only a month into the offseason right now. So I don't really accept the premise of the question, to be quite honest, and to answer kind of the final bit of it, would I rather have Reynolds or would I rather have Nimmo?

I'd rather trade the prospects for Reynolds than give Nimmo eight years, 160 million. And remember, you have to beat that, not just give that to him. You have to beat it. Otherwise, he's going back to the Mets, which he ended up doing. I would rather trade the prospects because I get a, better player, in my estimation, a younger player who's still in his prime, a safer player. Nimmo's missed a lot of time. People seem to overlook that. And I get that guy for a bunch of unknown, because that's what prospects are at the end of the day. They're unknown quantities.

So I just, to me, I don't scare off because you have to trade, you know, from your farm system because I trust the Mariners player development and I trust their scouting and I trust Jerry Rita Poto and Hollander and Scott Hunter. I trust them to kind of replenish that and they're in a really good spot to do that in this year's draft and international free agent class. So I would, I'm not afraid to trade prospects. I like a lot of people will just spend the money and keep your prospects. Well, maybe, but you get you get worse players if you go into free agency. There's a reason these guys make it a free agency, right?

Very rarely does an absolute stud when no wards get to free agency. Every single, because those guys get signed before they hit free agency. So I would rather go trade for Brian Reynolds than give Nimmo the contract he got. Now the mayors don't really have any choice right now. Like if they want to one or the other, now they have to go trade for Reynolds. But to me, I don't accept the premise of the question. And I think that, you know, to answer the second part, Reynolds is a better player. So I would rather go get Brian Reynolds.

I don't really care about the prospects, to be honest with you. Yeah. The thing that I would add, you know, two things to keep in mind. with the trade market and why certain teams like the Mariners prefer the trade market you're going to get younger guys you have the chance to get younger guys because they're you're not landing a 24 year old on on the open market just doesn't happen with the way that the that that club control works in baseball the other thing is that um you have the inside track on extensions you get to see firsthand if this guy fits in your ballpark or in your ball club rather and it

if you want to keep them around. And you can do that without handcuffing yourself to, you know, a considerable amount of your payroll for half a decade, over half a decade. So that's the other thing to keep in mind as well. That's why teams prefer to go that route or certain teams prefer to go that route than spending big on the biggest free agents that hit the open market, which, you know, there are going to be some guys that do hit the open market that are, you know, like Colby said, guys that don't have any warts like Aaron Judge, but also Aaron Judge turned down $400 million from the San Diego Padres to go back to the New York Yankees.

Right. So that's the other thing to you. One last thing that I'll add on all of this is that, you know, and I'm not saying that you're doing this, Scott, but we can't, you know, on one hand, say, oh, I'm concerned about how these prospects are going to perform in the future. I'm concerned about future. depth. I'm concerned about sacrificing future depth, all that stuff. And then rag on Jerry

DePoto for thinking about 2026. Yeah. Financially. Those things can't coexist. That you, one contradicts the other. So yeah. All right. We got more questions coming up here in just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Bilt Bar. You got to try this. I'm talking about Bilt Bar's new reimagined flavors. white chocolate peppermint granola. It's built's take on the granola bar so it's more filling and still insanely tasty and candy cane brownie puff. Built puffs are like biting into the universe's most delicious cloud. First off for anyone who hasn't tried built bars before, they're literally the best tasting protein bars ever built. They're revolutionizing nutrition as we know it with

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Starting with Jay Sierra, who asks, given our current offseason moves and some of the blockbuster deals position players are getting, seems the Mariners focus needs to shift to run prevention. Do you think we have a shot at Kodi Senga or are the Mariners likely out

on all high profile free agent ads? Colby. I don't think you have a shot at Senga any longer. I think Seattle was very interested. I think the market just got away from him. We're hearing reports that he's got, you know, six year deals, six guaranteed years.

on the table from teams. That is a lot to guarantee a, you know, a 30-year-old who's never pitched in the big leagues and, you know, has some questions about whether or not he can stick in the rotation for multiple years at the major league level, who has some, you know, some walk issues. He doesn't have pinpoint control or anything like that. And has never gone over 180 innings.

We know that sometimes arms that come over from Japan, they struggle to acclimate, you know, to pitching once every five days instead of once a week. Like there are some very real concerns about Senga. and giving him six years guaranteed at what is probably going to be more than $20 million A.AV. You look at what the market is given Taiwan Walker, what is given Jamison Tyone. Those guys are solid number fours, but that's their ceiling is a number four pitcher. And they're getting $18 million a year.

Senga is going to get $20. So are the Mariners going to guarantee Senga six years and $120 million? I can't see that happening. And on top of that, we've also heard that Senga wants to pitch. a big market. Is Seattle a big market? I would say no. So I think he's probably headed to the Mets. Maybe the Yankees get involved here. Boston possibly. The Dodgers. He's going to go, he wants to go to a big market team and he apparently already has six year offers on the table. I think Seattle's out at that point. And really, Senga's kind of the last guy left of the big name free agents

who has any shot at who Seattle had really any shot at. Carlos Cray is going to get like 13 years, $360 million this year. No chance the Mariners are interested in that. And heck, based on what Zander Bogart's got, Dansby's probably asking for $200 million. They're not going to get involved in that. So, yeah, I would say Seattle is going to add like a high impact all-star level talent this offseason.

Another one, it's going to be via the trade market. Which is fun. Yeah, I agree. Now, to answer your question about run prevention, I do agree that their focus should shift a little bit to run prevention, adding some pitchers. Most of that is probably going to be minor league contracts, getting guys into spring training that can potentially factor into the bullpen competition.

But that other corner outfield spot is really interesting to me. And look, you got a really nice center field defender in Julio Rodriguez. You got a guy in Teoscar Hernandez who has all the athleticism in the world, but it's just fundamentally not a good defender, at least statistically speaking, I would like for them to shore up the other corner outfield spot. This is why we've talked a lot about Max Kepler,

who was first overall in outs above average and right field last year. So someone like that would be preferable, someone that can play in the field and give you above average defense in a corner spot. This is why I like Andrew Benetendi. Now, considering the money that position players are making, I don't think Andrew Benetendi is actually an option. but someone in that mold.

Thank someone in that mold for the other corner outfield spot. This is why, you know, when we talked about J.D. Martinez yesterday, we're saying you cannot put him in the field. You cannot. Can't afford it. Can't do it? No. This is why I had reservations about Masataka, Yoshita.

Because like, while I like the bat a lot, can't defend. He's Jesse Winker out in the field. Maybe slightly better. Who know? Like, but not a significant upgrade. That's a very low bar to clear. So I want someone significantly better I want a legitimately good defender

In one of my corner spots And so Max Kepler is potentially that guy Andrew Bentonty is potentially that guy Probably not you know but yeah So that's where I would like the the mayor's focus next Someone you know Brian Reynolds is another guy that I think you know He had a horrible year in center field last year But he's going to play pretty well in a corner spot

So that would be great as well So someone like that And then, yeah, focus on the pitching and let's roll, basically. All right. Let's get into this next question. It comes from Brett, who wants to know, thoughts on a next realistic move for the Mariners. I read somewhere Evan Longoria could be an interesting option for that first base, third base, DH roll, maybe Jurex and pro far also, not flashy signings, but flexible options that are solid.

I actually like the Longoria idea, Colby. he's still hitting quite a bit he just hasn't been able to stay healthy he's played 80 something games the last couple of years but I think that's an interesting idea the thing though is he's never played for a space and that's a lot harder than you know people think right

it's relatively the easiest position to play on the diamond but that's not saying a ton it still takes a lot of skill and for someone that's played exclusively on the hot corner for their entire career that's not an easy transition but I do like the Longoria idea

I think that's a solid shot to take he was like a 115 WRC plus guy this past season so that would be a really like that would be a sneaky good ad assuming that he's able to replicate that or come someone close to that off of the bench I also like Profar a little bit

I wouldn't play him in the outfield much personally but I like that idea as well is there anyone else that comes to your mind what do you think about Longoria? What do you think about ProFar? Longoria is semi interesting, but I don't really see a fit. I think if Seattle's going to add an infielder, they're going to add somebody who can play up the middle if you need them to. So I just don't really see Longoria as much of a fit.

I'm kind of out on ProFar. I don't think he's all that good. I'd probably rather roll with Kellnick and like Will Myers, to be honest with you. I'm just not that big of a pro far fan. The versatility doesn't really mean much to me. Like I'm not mad. They signed jerks in ProFar. Fine, whatever.

But no, I'd aim higher. Somebody who can potentially be in my lineup every day. I just don't trust ProFar to do that. So for me, Longoria is a maybe, but it has to be just like an insanely good deal, like $5 million. ProFar, I still aim higher. I think you can do better in the corner outfield than Jerks and ProFar. but like I would rather just give AJ Pollock the money

and let Pollock and Kalnick be my left fielder and then Dylan Moore and Sam Haggerty on my bench as my utility guys. So kind of out on pro far. Just not a guy. Not a guy I'm interested in. Next question. Daisy and the dingo wants to know would the starting pitching premiums this offseason raise the value of the Mariners younger pitching prospects like Bryce Miller, Taylor Dullard, and Emerson Hancock?

I think it really depends on the team and how close the team, the acquiring team, thinks, you know, Hancock and Dollar and Miller and even Brian Wu are. Hence, hence. You know, there's one team out there that hopefully thinks that, that may or may not have a corner outfielder of the Mariners are trying to acquire right now. Again, yeah, like I said, I think it really just depends on the team. It depends on the situation. it's going to be like a younger team that they're trading away, you know, a player that you're hoping they, you know, they like a Hancock or a Wu or someone like that.

And that might be a pretty big part of it. What do you think? No. I think trying to extract value from minor leaguers due to a hot major league market doesn't work. Like because hypothetically, right, let's say it's the Orioles, right? And the Orioles want starting pitching help. And they go on the market. And everybody's so expensive, they'll be like, oh, well, we'll just start Emerson Hancock.

We'll go trip for Emerson Hancock. And he'll be a starter for us. Like, really? You want to start Emerson Hancock in the major leagues in 2023? And you're going to pay the Mariners a pretty decent price to get an unproven starting pitcher to be your number five? No, I think the Orioles would just go sign Jordan Lyles for. 8 million bucks you know so I just I don't see that the prospects

are more valuable because of the hot pitching market because really dollars is the only one who's major league ready at this stage and he's probably nothing more than a number five so I just no I don't think they're correlated all that much I think

the the market on flexion is going to be correlated more to the hot free agency than any of the prospect arms yeah yeah I mean I guess my aspect or the aspect that I was going with is just like if you're a young team that's like I just need innings but maybe I could use those innings on someone that's actually interesting and I don't have anyone that's interesting maybe that makes sense instead of just going and paying $8 million to Jordan Liles for no reason but right but I think a team that's like I'll let's just see what we can get out of this guy is is a team that they don't care about starting like you know I don't know I They are losers.

I mean, essentially, that's what they are. They're going in at 2023 saying we're bad. Yeah, we're trash. And so they're going to go out and they're going to try and get an Emerson, Hancock, or Taylor, dollar because they like them long term, not just because the free agent market is really hot right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, gotcha. All right.

Final question of the day comes from Scott Judy. Is there a player slash trade the Mariners were linked to and didn't get that you look back and wish they would have done whatever it was needed to get it done? there's one that sticks out in my mind. No. There is one that sticks out on my mind. Maybe you'll agree when I say it. Maybe you're not for, maybe you're not remembering.

There was a time where Jeff McNeil was a part of that Jared Kellnick and and Justin Dunn deal. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Never confirmed.

But that one, that one is painful. That one is painful. Right. I mean, I'm not saying that they just swapped out Gerson Bautista or Jeff McDeele for Gerson Batista. I'm not saying that exactly but it does hurt when you

heard that it could have been potentially allegedly Jared Kellnick Justin Dine and Jeff McBeal. Yeah. The Mariners asked about that like that's as far as I'm willing to go. So because that's not like confirmed by anybody, no. I don't count that.

Are we talking just the Poto era? Does the question specify? I don't know. I don't think so. because you remember when Jackson Rinsick had a shot at David Price in 2014 and they could have gone Felix Price and Iwakuma and they got involved in the David Price deal

they were in the price deal but they didn't want to give up Taiwan Walker for like a year and a half of David Price so instead they gave up Nick Franklin for a year and a half of Austin Jackson yeah that that's that one hurts and then I guess you go all the way back to like 2000 I wasn't even a fan of the team at that point.

I barely knew baseball was a thing. Juan Gonzalez. Yeah, but Joel Pinero for Juan Gonzalez. Yeah. Yeah, that probably should have done. And Panero was pretty good for Seattle for a little bit. Yeah, you probably still should have done that trade. So, yeah.

No, because like, I mean, I hate doing this too, by the way. Like, I get why it's a fun question. Don't get me wrong. But I hate like, oh, they should have done that deal back. Revision is history. Hindsight is 2020. Yeah. Yeah.

So just like, like, I've always loved the idea. Like, I would love an idea of like a book that of like trades that almost were and like why they didn't happen. Because the trades that don't happen are almost always more fascinating than the trades that do. But we just don't have a lot of info. Like we don't, we know maybe 1% of the talks that happen. Right. Between major league front offices. So, yeah, if Jeff McNeil was actually part of that deal, then then yeah, that would that would be a bummer.

but like what Jerry shouldn't have pulled the trigger unless they added Jeff McNeil no so it's it's kind of a tough question to answer but yeah like all the reports were they're like yeah you know if if Jackson Runsick had traded Taiwan Walker they could have gotten David Price for a year and a half I think it was a year and a half and I just that 2014 bullpen as good as that was and then you go Felix Iwakuma price it hurts it hurts it hurts You might have been the royals. It hurts. You legitimately might have been the Kansas City Royals. It hurts. Yeah, that one stinks a little bit. World Series MVP Logan Morrison. Heck yeah.

Lomo. Yeah, lomo. Never remembered how many nuts there were, but yeah. Hey, remember when he got innings in the outfield? That was fun. That was a fun time. The Jackson ERISA era was wild. It was, it was something.

Jackson Erenzic looks at this past year's Philly's team. and sheds a tear. Yeah. That was his dream team. That's what he was trying to build in Seattle. All right. It's time. Let's announce who's getting your cards, Colby.

So we reached four goals. Thank you so much to all those that helped us get there. We got well over 5,000 YouTube subscribers. We have moved on past 3,000 followers on Twitter. So we're giving away four cards. Taylor Dollared, Taylor Trammell, Cal Raleigh, Jerry Kellnick, all signed. And let's start with the dollared card. The dollared card is going to Papa Freddie Fred.

Congratulations. So the thing that we should say here is that you got to claim this in order for you to get it. You got to claim this by Monday show. That's what we agreed on, right, Colby? Yeah, you have the weekend. Yeah, so you have the weekend. And all you have to do is email us at locked on mariners at gmail.com. It's also in our description below if you're watching on YouTube or if you're just listening to the audio version of this.

It's in the description of the show. Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. Email us. Send us your shipping address and we'll get it out to you. Colby will get it out to you. All right. Next card, Taylor Tremel. Who's that going to?

Scott Jules. who asked us our last question. Yeah, double-dipped. Okay. There we go, Scott. Big day for you. So you are taking home the Taylor-Tremel signed card. Go for you, Scott.

Congrats. All right. This one's my favorite because it's such a great pairing. The winner of the big dumper, Cal Raleigh signed card winner is named Thunder Valley. Thunder Valley and Big Dumber. What a combo? What a combo. Congratulations, Thunder Valley. Again, email locked on Mariners at gmail.com with your shipping address, all that stuff.

And Colby will get it out to you. Congratulations. And finally, the winner of the sign Jared Kellnick card, which was our biggest goal. It was 4,500 YouTube subscribers, which that wasn't our biggest goal on YouTube. But we also added the caveat of 3,000 Twitter followers. and that was our last goal that we ended up getting to over the course of this giveaway. And the winner of the Jerry Kellner card is Brandon Moore. Brandon Moore, congratulations.

Send us your shipping info to Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. And Colby will get it out to you. So thank you again to everyone that entered, everyone that participated. We're going to be doing more giveaways over the course of the off season. into the regular season and this time I will be forking over the the the giveaways it will not be Colby Colby's done for a while Colby's done giving away his stuff for a little bit he's going to take a break I'm going to step in I'm going to see no no no trust trust big trust big trust so let's go there so yeah uh thank you again to everyone and congratulations to all of our winners and uh yeah

keep an eye out for more giveaway. So that's going to do it for our show today. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. For Colby Pat Node, I'm Tadang Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at LO underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Dan Gonzalez. That's C-A-N-ZL-Z and Colby at C-Pat 11. That's C-P-A-T-1-1.

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