Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MARINERS POSTCAST: Bryan Woo and Cal Raleigh CARRY Seattle Mariners to win vs Boston Red Sox

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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This is the Mariners Postcast. Your instant game reaction for the Seattle Mariners. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. You see what I'm doing here, Chris? I'm riding the seesaw that is the Seattle Mariners. Because apparently one game we can look like crap, and then the other game we look like one of the best teams in baseball. I don't know what it is.

You know, you got a tailover road trip. come back and sweep the guardians. Sock game one against the Red Sox, you shut out the Red Sox, 8 to 0 in game two. What is this? Why can't we be consistent? Has a team ever changed logos in the middle of a season from a moose to a shoulder shrug emoji?

Because I don't know. I don't know what you're going to get from this team, not only from week to week, but game to game. So congratulations to Shruggy, the shoulder shrug emoji on becoming. the new, maybe they can get Michael Jordan to come do it before he throws out of first pitch. He would gamble and probably lose on whatever he bet on if it was a striker of ball. But goodness gracious, I don't know what.

Let's talk about it. Yeah, let's talk about it. This is your Mariners postcast. My name's Anderson and hers. That's Christopher Crawford to my left. Welcome in. We go live right after every single Mariners game talking about the game that you just watched. Drew, the Seattle Shruggers.

I absolutely love that. I'm going to put that on the screen. We're going to talk about Cal Raleigh being him. We're going to talk about Brian Wu with another excellent start. This seems like the formula for the Seattle Mariners. And if we could take anything positive from, I'd say the past at least week, it's that the starting pitching is rounding itself around. Something that I was really worried about, especially on that road trip,

where, you know, I understand the offense seems to be sometimes there, sometimes not. But the starting pitching is really gaining some consistency now, especially with Logan Gilbert back, Brian Wu. I want to say bounce back because he hasn't been bad. It's just he hasn't been as dominant in the last three or four starts as he was in the beginning of the season. So that's a huge development for me, especially if George Kirby can continue to do what he does. And Everson Hancock as well. You feel good about at least four of the five starters right now.

It's great to see. And it is so nice to see them bounce back from what I think is probably, with all due respect to how good Logan Gilbert was, one of their worst efforts of the year. with a pretty strong effort. Now, is it worth pointing out that outside of three innings, they weren't great? If you're really looking for something negative, sure. If you're up by six, you start to kind of like, yeah.

You know, you let off your foot. It becomes a little less important. You know, I'm honestly, I was happy that they only score eight because it seems that every time this team scores a bunch of runs, they go on a lull is an understatement. They have a tendency to not score very much in the coming days that just kind of evens out, but it evens out in less than spectacular fashion. Now, this was really good, and it was great to see an awesome pitching performance,

a spectacular performance from our MVP, and a just nice bounce back. And it's worth pointing out now, four out of five, and four of those wins you have. have played pretty dang good baseball. Yeah, and this gives me hope that maybe this is the team. And this is kind of who we expected the Mariners to be. We didn't expect the offense to be as good as it was in April for all year long. We didn't expect Cal Raleighed him in the MVP, although it's back on now because the dude almost hit for the cycle tonight.

My goodness. He's, by the way, a little random stat. He either drove in or scored seven of the eight runs tonight. So that is what you call carrying the offense. So, but it's going to be elite pitching and it's going to be timely hitting. And that's kind of what the Mariners have been recently. And I think that's going to be a formula that's definitely repeatable moving forward. Yeah, absolutely.

And it was interesting. You know, I hosted on KJR today. Thank you for everybody. Is it nice to be able to be in control again, Anders, after having to listen to. I don't know if I'm in control ever, even if I am the lead host. So, you know, keep going. Well, you know, people are still writing me about the snapcrackle podcast. joke and how good that is, by the way. It's just

wonderful to see. But, so I'm driving home and I happened to hear on Sirius that Jerry Depoto went on MLB Network, and he mentioned that, you know, we were carried by the offense for a while, which kind of made me giggle because carried is maybe a little strong.

You had a good offensive month. You had a good offensive month. And then he mentioned that, hey, it's really our pitching that's going to have to carry us now. And I don't think he's wrong. Now, I think he's right in the wrong ways, maybe, then he would like to admit, because he mentioned that pitching is his identity. I think that has more to do with the fact that your offense is... It's basically that real ID that keeps getting pushed back.

If the identity is actually the Seattle Mariner pitching, the real idea that we promise it's coming in 2020. You're absolutely going to have to get that extra license. But no, the pitching was phenomenal over these last couple of games. And Brian Wu's swing and miss stuff was so good. I believe 18 swings and misses generated today. That gives the starters of the last two games 39. That is such an impressive number.

39 is a good series and then some. If you could get double digit swinging misses from your starter, you're doing really well. They can give up a, they have to get one swing and miss over the next two games to average double digits. It's over the next four. His command was good. He changed eye levels.

He was just dotting that outside top of the strike zone all game long. Really impressive efforts. And a nice reminder that sometimes we think of Brian Wu as more of a high floor than high ceiling. Yes. You know, that's somewhat fair. I think the floor is higher than the ceiling. But that doesn't mean he's bereft of ceiling. There is a ceiling here.

there is a chance for him to be a top of the rotation starter, and tonight he pitched like one and then some. Yeah, I could totally agree. He's been the best starter this year. And, you know, there's some, you know, Luis Castillo's come on recently as Wu's kind of dropped back a little bit. But I think just if you look at the total body of work, Brian Wu has been the best starting pitcher on the Mariners.

I saw a stat today. I think it was Daniel Kramer that put it out. But that was his 14th straight start with, six or more innings pitched. That is the definition of giving your team a chance to win. And at a time where your starting pitching has kind of dropped back down to earth, you've had some injuries, you need that length. And especially as the bullpins looked a little shaky at times this season,

you need the length. And just having Casey Legamina and then we'll talk about Andres Munoz making an appearance. Finally, yeah, who? I don't even know this guy. He throws 100 miles an hour. Who is this guy? No, but having your starter go six and sometimes even seven innings. Did he go eight once this year?

I think you might have. Yeah, but just that consistency, man. Even if you're going to give up four runs every now and then, you know, it's never blowing up. It's never, you know, you can't get out of the fourth or fifth inning, which you have seen from other starters. How impressive and how important is that for the staff? I think it's massive. I mean, just the fact. And look, let's talk about his start against Airs.

owner just real quick. We'll venture into Ty and Colby. It was one bad pitch. Like outside of the grand slam to Lord Voldemort, he who must not be named right now, because we just miss him that much in A.O. Anio Suarez, I guess he can't mention his name. He was fine. He was totally fine. He's just such a consistent option. And, you know, did he deserve five, six innings last time out if I'm being completely honest with you? No, he probably should have gotten polled before that pitch to Suarez. But he did. give you six innings. And it's cool to keep that streak alive. And what that speaks to for the most to me, it's not dominating stuff. It's not impeccable command. It's just being efficient.

It's just being efficient and being the best version of Brian Wu that he can be the overwhelming majority of the time. And it's so nice to look at this rotation and say, that might be your fourth most talented starting pitcher. Yeah. Like, as frustrated as we are with this offense and, of course, we'll talk about this offense. My buddy Owen says, I'm here to hear Chris talk about his good friend, Big Dumber, and he will talk about his good friend.

We're besties, me and Big Dumber. It's, it is, I do appreciate this rotation. I do appreciate the job the Seattle Mariners have done in developing this rotation. And I appreciate that I get to watch these guys just consistently. put up a fight and give the Mariners a chance to win. Yeah, and now that you say that about the starting staff, about Brian Wu possibly being the fourth most talented of the pitchers, I think that's, yeah, I'd say three or four,

depending on how you look at things. But each of your guys is different. They do things in a different way. You got Logan Gilbert, who has the stuff. He's going to just pound through lineups and strike people out of time. You have Mr. Command and George Kirby. You have, I think that's a perfect, description of Ryan Wu efficiency.

Yeah. He's going to never blow up. He's always going to give you at least six innings, and that's perfect. And then you have Luis Castillo, who I would say he's just consistent. Like, yeah, that's Mr. consistency. Like, there's two different things there. But all four guys do it in a different way. And then you have Bryce Miller.

I know he's injured right now, and he just pumped that basketball every time. So let me, let me disagree with my buddy Brian here. You know why that 219 game time doesn't rock? a little heads up. I fell asleep in the fourth inning and woke up. Why did you say that? Because I just got to be honest. And if this would have been a longer game,

I only miss a couple of innings. But instead, the drive back from Seattle to Shelton for the first time since February. And I think that had something to do with it on top of some other stuff that's going on, really affected me. So while I do appreciate a two-hour a 19 minute game.

I wish they would have saved that for, say, tomorrow after this. Yeah, I think that's fair. Totally fair. Okay, let's say hello to our sponsors real quick, and then we're going to talk about big dumpers. Sound good? Sounds great. If you ever check your bank account and wonder, where did all my money go?

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But he certainly is, it almost feels like a patronizing thing to say, patronizing, excuse me, thing to say that Cal Raleigh is the MVP of the Seattle Mariners because he might be like the MVD, the most valuable deity to the Seattle Mariner. He has just absolutely carried this team. And I will say this, if you go by just the definition of most valuable, then it is, Cowrally because we've mentioned it ad nauseum, but I'm going to mention it again. The Yankees are a playoff team without Aaron Judge. The Seattle Mariners are the Miami Marlins without Cowrally.

Who's the real MVP, folks? Ultimately, the way- You're a real MVP. Yeah, for sure. So the way we've decided to vote on things, then, yeah, I'm sorry, Aaron Judge is going to win, and he's going to win in a landslide. But if we actually took the valuable part, if we actually took that to what it means for a team,

then Cal Raleigh would be the MVP. And even if he's not, he's still putting together, oh, I don't know, the greatest offensive season, any catcher has ever had in this sport. And I'll be honest, I love Big Dumber. And I had no doubt that Big Dumber was going to get back on track. But we do have to say, get back on track. He did not look like the same place.

player since the benching. And it's kind of a weird timing thing. I don't think it. I probably is just a complete coincidence. It almost assuredly is. Regression's a jerk. You know, sometimes these guys have to regress. It wasn't that long of a regression because, and you take a look at like,

this is one of the things that I think baseball fans forget, right? Let's say Cal Raleigh was 0 for 16 over his last four games. He wasn't, but let's just say that, right? What Cal Raleigh did today means so much more than that 0 for 16. So much more. Those big offensive splash games that almost literally, you can't see it this time because Brian Wu didn't give up a run and neither did the relievers. However, when you put together that type of game that guarantees you're going to win,

because Brian Wu can't guarantee the Seattle Mariners are going to win. He literally didn't bat today. Lazy bum he is. He refused to help the offer. it's right. Yeah. Well, Cal Raleigh put together a game that guaranteed you win. So when you get these types of games, you just kind of throw the 0 for 16th. And again, I'm just throwing that number out for. He wasn't, but yes. But when he has those type of games, it means so much more than the struggles. And it's the opposite for pitching, right? Like if Andres Munoz, and we'll talk about him,

apparently again, he does exist, would have had a one-inning five-run game. It unfortunately, out the five innings of five games of shutout baseball. That's why offensive players means so much more. And this is an obvious point to the overwhelming majority of you. But it's worth pointing out when you have games like this, you have helped your team and you literally help your team to a victory. It means so much more than the struggles over a week, at least as an offensive player.

Yeah. And I think that's a great point. But as my boy, Alex points out, the best thing about this game is that even though Cal amazing. Even if every one of his A.Ds is a K, they still win this game. Because if the Cole Young double, they go up one zero. Yeah. That's true. On that note, on that note, I had of a lot of people reaching out to me asking, what do we think of the send of Ben Williamson on that Cole Young double?

I've actually heard people think two different ways on this. So I want to get your thoughts first, and then I'll respond. I believe it was what, one out? No, yes, one out. Canzone flies out. Rowdy Tiles singles. Canzone flies out. Rowdy Tolez steals second base. Yes, you heard that right.

That is the most surprising thing that happened today. Not Cal Raleigh on. By the way, I saw the greatest stat ever. I'll tell you about it in just a second. Ben Williamson then walks. So you got first and second. Then Colion. See, Rowdy on second.

Ben Williamson on first. Cole Young hits a double. It's about a foot away from his first career. on mobile home run. Oh, I wanted that so bad for him. Sure. Who's also been awesome recently, Cole Young, offensively and defensively. He's really rounding into his own right now. And so obviously, Roddy Tellez scores on the double. Chris Negroen sends Ben Williamson, who's out by a good foot. What do you think about the send? It would have been third base, one out. Instead, it's no one on and two outs.

You know, I'm going to take the wimpy out here and say, I would have been okay with either decision. I would have been okay holding him there. But I ultimately, if I was Chris Nagrown, I'd be given the wave. And the reason I'd be given that wave is because Ben Williamson is fast. Ben Williamson has good speed. And a chance to guarantee the beginning there, I think it was worth it. Yeah. The chance to get two runs there.

I didn't have a problem with it. If he would have held up the stop sign, I would have been okay with it too. It would have been fine. You know, I trust J.P. Crawford, even though he had a rough one the game before to get the job done,

to hit a sack fly or to make contact, hard enough contact to score that run. I didn't have an issue with the send. If it would have been Rowdy Tellez at first base, and it's not even close. He wouldn't have gotten the chance there, right, even though he did get the stolen base.

Real quick, because I will forget it. Rodi Thales now has five stolen bases in his career. He's pitched in four games. He almost hasn't many innings pitched. He almost hasn't many in the innings pitched. As he does. Solid basis.

God bless him. Oh, that's a great baseball step. And, you know, it's kind of just one of those. Yeah, I mean, we obviously win this game eight zero. It doesn't end up mattering in the long run. So what did you think? This is something to discuss. Yeah.

What did you think? I so originally when I saw it, I was like, okay, I was thinking send them, send them, send them. I'm usually just looking at things. I'm usually an aggressive base running fan. I want to try and get as many runs, especially since literally last night, you know, revisionist history. We saw what happened with the base loaded and nobody out. You've got to take as much of a risk as you can to try and get as many runs when you do get a hit as you can.

I understand J.P. Crawford, who's been really good lately, is coming up next and you have a chance to just get the ball into the outfield and score another run. But I'm with you because Ben Williamson's faster. I like that same. I think I would have gone for it, but there's a lot of people who didn't. A lot of people who didn't like it. I just, I want to take advantage of the few times you do come true with runners in scoring position. and I don't care if it means you get an extra out. If you can try and just maximize those few opportunities that you get, I think it helps you out in the long run. Can I tell you why I think you probably got pushback from it? Mariner fans have, and I don't like using this term as a joke,

but for lack of a better term, PTSD with sends from third base, right? Because Negron has had some horrible sense. Still the worst send that I have ever seen on Big Dumber, trying to score on that play. Yeah. And we also, it's so funny, the amount of tweets I got about how they need to fire Maniacta after that happened, because Maniacta is a very valuable bench coach and a really well-respected guy.

I actually wrote an article once with Mani-Acta. It's one of my favorite things that I have done. It was pretty fun. Okay, Bragg Camp is over. The, we, he was terrible as a third base coach. Terrible, terrible, terrible. So I think Mariner fans are kind of maybe, I don't want to speak for everybody. Yeah.

Maybe looking for a reason to complain, you know, like, hey, we have seen this guy burn us so often. And, you know, after you score a literal zero, yeah, I can understand being a little like, boy, are you really going to give up these chance here with the top of the lineup coming up? Yeah. But at the same time, did you see what that top of the lineup did yesterday? Exactly. That's why I was like, you know what, screw it. Let's go. Let's go. Send him home. I don't care if there's a chance they don't come through. By the way, I think we need to talk about two walks today that were massive. Because Ben Williamson had one of them. And it was great to see him. What I'm really encouraged by with Ben Williamson is that he is actually starting to chase less. Again, the power not being existent whatsoever is a big problem. It's a big, big, big problem. one because you're going to rely on Babib. He relies on Babbib literally more than any player in baseball at this point.

Outside of, you know, now that Leo Rivas doesn't play through the mayor either. Yeah, you're right. He does not. So he needs that Babib luck. So you've got to start drawing more free passes. You have to. So seeing that. And then I thought maybe the biggest play of the game outside of the big dumper Grand

Slam was Julio walking prior to the Grand Slam. Yes. I'm going to get to that. Yeah. Let's get to that in terms of the same. sequence here really quick. Sure. Cool. So after the Kloyong double, J.P. Crawford walks, by the way, another three on base day for J.P. Crawford. It kind of goes lost in everything because that's just what he does now. Pullia Rodriguez on an excellent at bat. I know he gets a hit later in the game.

It's still not driving the baseball, but the approach, and we talked about this today with Josh Ian on Sports Radio KJR, the approach is what kind of bothers me the most right now with him. he's just chasing too much and he's chasing too early in the count. The fact that he was willing to get to a three ball count and not chase that thing away, that was a fantastic at that. And especially with guys on first and second at that point, like I was expecting Julio to just want to be the guy to hit everyone in because he's just, he's excited to make a play.

He's more excited to make a play than afraid to make a mistake. That's just who he is. But willing to take that walk is huge because it sets up, Cal Raleigh for the Grand Slam and then he does what Cal Raleigh does, just absolutely hits a moon shot. So talk about the walk and then talk about Cal Raleigh. It was huge. It was absolutely huge to draw that walk.

And look, it would have been a huge walk from anybody. Like it could have been Miles Mastriboni. It could have been, you know, let's try to think of old Baroners. Russ Davis could have been at the plate and drawn that walk. And it would be a big play. But for a guy who has literally walked prior to today one time in the month of June to draw that free pass in that situation. In a big spot, yeah, with two outs.

Huge, huge. And yeah, that's the thing too, is that, you know, you forget that Big Dumber's Grand Slam was with two outs. Like that inning could have just easily been over. Exactly. Or one run. And if you play Captain Hindsight, you say, well, that's enough because Brian Loochut shut everybody out.

But it changes the entire game. We talked about this the other way. Entire game. Changes the entire game to get that chance for Big Dund, jumper to get right and boy, oh boy, did he get right. And to drive that baseball off of, let's be honest, Walker Bueller is cooked, cooked. Um, it's still huge. It's so much, you feel so much more comfortable when you build that kind of lead. And good for Julio for doing that. Yeah, I want to see him drive the dang baseball more often. And I really, really

concerned about his swing decisions over the last month. But we're a daily show, right? We are reacting to what we saw today. Julio Rodriguez helped the Mariners a lot today, and that was nice to see. Yeah, it was nice to see. By the way, I thought when they pinch hit Dylan Moore for Randy or Rosa Rain, I was like, uh-oh, something wrong. But then they did the same thing to Julio.

I think they were just trying to get guys out and get some rest. Sure. So I want to just update everyone there. I don't think they've talked about in the post game at all. I've been trying to check and see if there's anything. But the fact that they haven't said anything tells me, They're just trying to get them off their legs for a little bit while you're up by eight runs. For sure.

Nothing to see there. Let's get unsung hero. I have an easy one for me. And it's Cole. He drives in the first run, almost gets his first big league home run, has another two hit day, three on base day with another walk. My stat here, since a 1 for 208K start in the big leagues, he is now 11 for 29, good for 345 batting average. I don't work. 5Ks, two walks, and four RBIs in his last eight games, which will absolutely play,

especially when you're playing elite second base defense. Yeah, he's been fantastic. He has been so much more helper than herder and, you know, can't ignore that barreled bunt that he got down as well to in Saturday's game to get that comeback victory. And yeah, I think that's a great call. We aren't giving him enough attention. My unsung hero is going to be cheating. It's going to be Andres Munoz.

it's just because we got to talk about the fact the guy finally freaking hit and it looked great. Now, I was a little nervous. I got to be honest. Remember, Chris was sleepy time and he woke up just in time to see Andres Munoz come into the game. And the first thing I see is this little blooping hit that lands and I'm like, oh, is it going to be one of those? Honestly, it was like, all right, you're already up by eight. If he's going to have a stinker, it's now. Yeah. Here's my thing. I don't like disagreeing with people. And I did not want to see a bunch of comments about what's wrong with Andres

Munoz on the side. I just didn't want to see it. You know, I know that they're wrong, but it's not fun. It's not fun to see that stuff. And it's a personal problem with me that I'm affected by stuff like that. But I wanted to see him shove. And you know what? After that hit, he shoved.

He absolutely reminded why he is, if he's not the best closure in baseball, he's way up there, way, way, way up there. And it's great to get him in, by the way, I would have absolutely talked about it if they didn't use him today. Because you can't go that long without pitching any reliever on your staff. In fact, if you didn't use Casey Legamino, who by the way has looked a lot better as of work, been really nice to see that. you would be talking about sending some of those guys down because you're like, well, I don't know what I'm going to get from this seventh or eighth reliever.

We need to work on that stuff. You obviously can't do that with Andres Munoz because your front office or your front office, your whole entire team would strike him. Like it would be a bad situation. But it was great to see him look like Andres Munoz. So there's my unsung hero because you literally, it's the definition almost of unsung right. When you're the reliever in an 8-0 game and get their job done, you won't think a whole heck of a lot about it. But I am so happy to see, I'm just so happy to see him look good. It's fun to watch Andres Munoz when he's at his best.

And now I feel a heck of a lot more confident in him pitching in the next safe situation. You're hoping it's a while from now. And they win a bunch of games by 11. It's more fun like that. But that's not going to happen. We're going to see Andres Munoz had a safe situation. real quick and that was great to see yeah and even if it's tomorrow um you get an off day on thursday so he can pitch to you can pitch the next two games and be totally fine still so that's why i like using him today getting him some uh just to try like with relief pitchers because you pitch so in frequently sometimes just getting your arm slot your release down all that stuff is so good to see um when uh you know you haven't pitched a while so getting him in today with an

eight-run games to figure all that stuff out it's almost like bringing in a non-stop leverage guy. It's like, all right, you're not going to, you're not going to, you know, give this up. You're just coming in to figure stuff out for when we do need you to be extra sharp. And that might be tomorrow. So, all right, guys, really appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Once again, Mariners win this one, eight to zero. Cal Raleigh carries them on offense. Brian Wu shoves on the other side. And then a couple of really good performances sprinkled in overall as well. A great Mariners win. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. It's a day game tomorrow. Chris, I believe you're going to the game.

I'm going to the game. I'm excited. I thought I was going into the game tonight, but communication issues, but I'm excited to go watch a game, and I certainly appreciate Anderson having a better work ethic for me. I don't know about that again, but, you know, I'm happy to cover for you. So you get to go enjoy your first marriage game of the season. I've done it once already this year. Sure. So I really appreciate it.

So I come hang out with me tomorrow right after the game should be around, you know, three o'clock, I'd say, 315, 330, depending on how long the game goes. But it's another short one like tonight, maybe a little earlier. So I really appreciate you guys hanging out tonight. If you missed any of today's video, you can check it out on the podcast after anywhere you find Locked on Mariner's. You can find the Marriors postcast there as well. Please like the video. If you haven't yet, it helps us out a ton and comment in who your unsung hero of the day was.

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