Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MARINERS POSTCAST - Seattle Mariners DIDN'T SHOW UP vs Washington Nationals

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Anderson Hirst and Christopher Crawford break down another poor start from George Kirby, a horrible offensive effort and just a dud of a game all around. Is it time to worry that Kirby is not the same... pitcher as we say before the injury? Why is this offense so inconsistent?Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Trade CoffeeRight now, Trade is exclusively offering our customer 50% off your one-month trial at drinktrade.com/LOCKEDONMLB. Wonderful PistachiosGet snackin' and get crackin' with the snack that packs a protein punch. Visit WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more! Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com! Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 This is the Mariners Postcast. Your instant game reaction for the Seattle Mariners. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Big yikes. Big yikes. They're Mariners. Get absolutely shellacked. 9-0.
Starting point is 00:00:29 In game two of the Washington National Series, Anderson Hurst with you. Christopher Crawford to my left. My wife was asking me, so are the Mariners just playing bad or is the Washington Nationals good? So Christopher Crawford, I'm going to ask you the same question. Did the Mariners play just awful today or are the Washington National is good? I think I know the answer. You know what? That's a really actually good question.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And that's why she is your better half and is not even close. I think it's more that the Mariners played like garbage than the Washington Nationals played well, if I'm being completely honest with you. Now, give some credit to some guys. Williams had easily his best start, darning with faint praise to be sure. Give some credit to James Wood, who is just a absolute behemoth of a human being and is going to give lots of teams trouble. I thought he got another one, by the way, later in that game as well. He's just such a strong dude playing very well. The Wonsota trade will be one that'll be visited for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Which one? Well, that's a good question. Yeah. The national one, the very first one, they got some good pieces in that deal for sure, and we saw a few of them today. I think it's more that the Mariners played bad, though. And it's so disappointing because I've seen this movie a lot of times
Starting point is 00:01:50 as a guy who has had to recap games for a long time. So many times you will think, oh, what a complete game. What a great, awesome win that is just followed by a complete, egg and by egg you know I mean something else that's coming out of there it was just an awful performance the pitching was bad the hitting was bad there were some defensive blunders late in the game that you know it was too late for it to really matter but it just you know they I think you titled this video perfectly they didn't show up today yeah it's it's like
Starting point is 00:02:28 there's different emotions can that can be evoked from a bad loss like the game on Sunday that you left me for. I was angry. I was ticked off with that one. I was yelling at my screen. Why? Why about so many things? This one,
Starting point is 00:02:43 I'm just dejected. Like, oh, my God. This is just, I don't understand it. From J.M.'s here. It's like every other game they can't hit. That's kind of what I was thinking, too. It feels like they're incredibly inconsistent right now.
Starting point is 00:02:58 They have a good game like they did yesterday, and then they have one where literally no one can take good at that. I don't understand why it's so hit and miss with these guys. Yeah, and look, this wasn't the ballpark. This wasn't some great efforts. And I'll be brutally honest with you. The good luck that the Mariners got from the Logan Evans, the Washington Nationals got that same thing tonight with Trevor Williams. There were some line drives that just went right into gloves, just straight right into gloves. And I don't want to make excuses because the offense wasn't good enough. There wasn't enough hard contact for me to just say, oh,
Starting point is 00:03:36 you were just super unlucky. When you get shut out, you're a bad offense. I'm sorry, there's no excuse, there's no ballpark, there's no win. There's definitely no marine layer. The ball was carrying like crazy. It was warm. Yeah, that very first home run from Luis Garcia, I didn't think had a chance in Hades of leaving the ballpark. I looked down for a second. I was like, well, he's going to be standing at second base. No, that ball got out. I think the announcers were just as surprised as we were, to be honest with you. No, the ball was traveling fine today. The Mariners certainly had some hard contact, but, and you look at it too. I think they struck out twice in this entire game. That's what I saw for, they struck out four times because
Starting point is 00:04:18 the Lord struck them out two times. Well, you've got the Lord and you've got Zaberskiski pitching again against the Seattle Mariners. And you're going well. This was just a really poor effort and it's disappointing after such a great effort the night before a complete team effort where you saw your superstars play well you saw your seventh starter pitch exceptionally well you played some great defensive plays and like the exact inverse happens a night later that's that's really frustrating yeah we're going to go over today a big quick run down here we're going to ask about it it's time to worry about george kirby uh we're going to try and tell you what happened with this offense i don't really know if i can explain it and then we're going to also try and find
Starting point is 00:05:05 an unsung hero here i don't know if there's going to be one maybe we go unsung villain in this one but i'm already seen it in the comments and i knew this would happen uh bring back logan evans uh send george kirby back down he doesn't look right yeah i'm i'm wondering how what's your worry meter about george kirby and do you think it was the right move to to get rid of logan evans after such a big good performance. Yeah. So my worry meter for the long term is still like zero, pretty close to it. My worry meter for the next two or three starts is probably at like a six or a seven.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And unfortunately, you just got to deal with it. Like you're because you're not going to be able to put George Kirby back on the injured list. And George Kirby wasn't going to let the Seattle Mariners keep him on the injured list. They would have had to transfer them to the 60-day injured list, and they weren't going to do that. That certainly wasn't going to happen. I am worried because the command just isn't even close to good enough right now. It's nothing compared to what we've seen.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Right, and that's the thing. It's not just bad, though, for George Kirby. It's bad for George Jetson. Like these are middle, middle pitches right now that are just right down the plate. And you can't do that against lineups like this. And by lineups like this, I just mean major league lineups. Like they're going to. And where Logan Evans took advantage of this lineup, the nationals took advantage of
Starting point is 00:06:39 George Kirby not having his command because they're a packers and they are going to swing at pitches that are middle middle. And so much of George Kirby's pitches were middle middle. Now, the positive, I think the stuff has looked fine in both of these starts. Fastball velocity has been good. There have been some really nice sliders. The change has a little bit more shape than I have seen him have before. I think he tinkered on that pitch a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I think the stuff is just fine. So if we're talking about, well, the one thing George Kirby has to improve is command. Come on. Come on. Like, I get the frustration. And I also understand that when you see something like this happen, and then you see Logan Heavens throw eight innings of one-run baseball, you go against the same team against the exact same team against the exact same lineup yeah the
Starting point is 00:07:30 exact same lineup so i get the frustration i'm not going to even kind of say that george kirby was good tonight because obviously he wasn't the first inning was okay uh i think there were a couple other endings that were fine but there was just signed throughout that he was just not able to locate where he wanted to locate and george Kirby is a guy who relies on command. His stuff is good. It's mid-rotation stuff. It is upper-ecentral on command and upper-upor-usional control.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Well, control was fine tonight for the most part. The command wasn't. And to say it wasn't, if we're talking on the 20-80 scale, we're talking about 30-grade command, and that's just not going to work against any major league baseball team, especially free swingers like these ones. Yeah, it's just at what point can injuries like these, the one that he had in his shoulder, can they affect someone's ability, whether it's command,
Starting point is 00:08:29 stuff, any of that in the long term? Because I'm worried, like, is this just who he is now after his injury? I really hope it's not. But, like, also we have to remember this is still probably in terms of a pitcher ramping up for a season. We're still looking at like spring training, late spring training for him right. Yes. A hundred percent, because you're hoping to get George Kirby's spring training four or five appearances. right something along those lines and build up well this was appearance number five right this was he had made three rehab starts and you cannot simulate facing major league pitching like yeah remember george kirby's first starts against i believe it was the guardians it may have been his
Starting point is 00:09:09 second start where he got absolutely shellacked yeah last year yeah yeah it sometimes it just takes some time george kirby's stuff and track record is too good for me to be going to row right now the rut row with George Jensen that's kind of funny um funny is definitely your mileage may vary there but I just don't have any long-term concerns but these next couple you better score some runs you better be able to score some runs and so far the mariners have given George Kirby two runs and his two starts yeah um well now you mentioned this before the top of the show and I didn't think this would be possible but now the nationals are actually outscoring you in this series hold on real quick it
Starting point is 00:09:53 It's astro too, Richard. I know Rutt Row is mostly George, or excuse me, Scooby-Doo, but Rutt Row is also Astro. I'm a very old man. Don't come in here and test my Hanna-Barbera knowledge. Come on, Richard. Yeah, so what about offense? Because, you know, we're getting a lot of, you know, worrying signs from,
Starting point is 00:10:17 I don't want to say, like a long period of time, but we got JPs kind of in a funk right now, Randy has not looked like himself for the past, what, two, three weeks at least now. So, and that, God, that's almost worse. Like, okay, if you have George Kirby coming off an injury, he gets a little hit around against this lineup, but fine. Like, I almost think it's worse that this offense couldn't do anything against Trevor Williams. Yeah. Has his first quality start of this year and it made it look like cake.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Like, how does that happen? They were way too aggressive tonight. And I understand there's a bunch of stats that say that when the Seattle Mariners have been aggressive this year, they've been really, really good. But there is a thin line between being assertive aggressive and just being aggressive to the point of incompetence. And what they were today was aggressive to the point of incompetence. There were just too many times where they didn't make them work. Like he threw something like 70 pitches over those six innings. And sure, not a lot of swing and miss.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And that's great. You said it's the same thing as Logan Evans yesterday. Exactly. It's a very similar start. Very similar. I thought that maybe Evans command was a little bit better, but we also had to see Evans throw a few more pitches, you know, 88 through his eight innings.
Starting point is 00:11:42 No, it was just a bad offensive effort and way too aggressive. Reckless. My buddy Brian puts it perfectly. They were reckless tonight. They were, and if that's what the game plan was tonight, I get it to a point. But after a while, you have to say, okay, these aren't fallen. We've got to start making these guys, this guy work a little bit more. And look, Trevor Williams last year was outstanding until he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And he was probably due for a better start. And I will again point out a lot of hard contact that just wasn't rewarded tonight. Jorge Polanco in particular had a couple of hard contacted balls that just, you know, found gloves. and it's frustrating, but at least, you know, if they're going to talk about a positive, that was the best offensive effort I think I've seen from Jorge Polanco in a while, the fact that he was actually making hard contact. We want to see results with it, of course, but hard contact is good. And it's just frustrating to see the hard contact not getting rewarded, but also you didn't
Starting point is 00:12:41 deserve to be rewarded with how reckless you were. That was a perfect way to put it, Brian. You're a sharp cookie. Yeah, so just not a good night overall. There wasn't really a fast of the game where the Mariners came in and did what they needed to do. Bad starting pitching, bad relief pitching. Again, you're not using your ace guys. I understand that, but no offense whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They get absolutely dominated by a me to below meh, Washington Nationals team. And now you're putting yourself in a situation where you need to go win tomorrow's game. I don't want to, I don't like putting must win. in tags, like so often because I feel like I'm saying that a lot. But you got to win these series, man. You have to win these series. You have to win series at home. You have to win series against mediocre to below average offenses.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You have to do all that stuff. There's a reason why baseball's 162 game series is because you have to get things done over those 162. And one of those things you have to do is you have to win series against mediocre baseball team. And this is a very mediocre baseball team. Now, the Mariners looked, made them look like juggernauts tonight. And there are talented players. But every major league team, Sands, Colorado, has plenty of major league players.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But you got to win these games. You got to win these games. Yep. So Mariners drop this one, 9-0 against the nationals. Let us know your shout for Unsung Hero or Unsung Villain, if you want to go the negative route. but let's talk a little bit about some Monarch money before we get to that. I like money. I like money too.
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Starting point is 00:15:25 So you're saving money on the actual service as well. So that's monarchmoney.com code locked on MLB for half off your first year. All right. DUD games are not fun to break down, but you guys coming and hanging out with us is huge. I really appreciate you guys. You've been my therapy, kind of just talking it all out in my mind. I was a little dejected after having to watch every single out of this game. Just not, not, not fun to watch whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Packers fan, by the way, I'm a diehard Mariners fan. Thank you for being a diehard Mariners fan. I don't know if you're based in Seattle or if you're based in Milwaukee or somewhere else. But we love Mariners fans, wherever you guys come from, wherever you are staying now. All right. So for me, I'm going to go Blasquez. Castano, or Castano, excuse me. Major League debut gets through three innings.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You know, obviously gave up the home run, a couple other hits as well. But just Major League debut, well done. Way to get to that point. I don't know if you guys saw him call his mom and tell him, though, he's getting called up to the show. That was a really cool moment for him. That's always, those never get old, man. And, hey, you know, you made it so we didn't have to use that many reliever arms today. So congratulations for making your appearance.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It sucks that it came in this game, but, you know, we'll take it. So my unsung hero is going to be Jackson and my buddy 82%. I made a joke on Blue Sky. Do you guys prefer Jackson Co. F war or Jackson Co. B War? Because, you know, it's just really, really funny. But congrats to him, man. Not his MLB debut, but the fact that he was able to come back after. basically a year and a half of not being able to do anything.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And I thought he looked pretty solid. The stuff has never been a question with Jackson CoR. Like electric stuff. The ability to know where the heck that stuff is going has not been in Jackson CoR's profile since he graduated. Well, he didn't graduate. Maybe he went back to school, but he was at Vanderbilt. Good school, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Pretty pretty, pretty tough one to get into. But yeah, I thought it was really cool to see him back on the mouse. and I think he has a chance to be someone who sticks around a little while. Okay. But honestly, your answer is a better one because he's literally saving your bullpen. Yeah. The fact that you didn't have to use anybody to use the way kids talk about stuff, good luck speaking Tacoma, buddy with the Adam Silver name in the background,
Starting point is 00:18:08 because there is zero chance that Blasquezano is still on that roster tomorrow. I got to shout him out before he's off. Heck yeah. So congrats to you. I hope you cut off that orange jersey and hang it somewhere because I had a bunch of people asking me what was going on there. I joke that it was mom spaghetti that he was too nervous. That's funny. No, it's just something to keep the arm warm.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Hey, while we're talking about not using relievers, this is now, I think, four straight days of not using Andres Munoz. I wonder if we should have used him on Sunday. I know we're only supposed to react to this game, but I had to throw that in there. I'm still ticked off about it. Imagine how much better we're feeling if we split that series. Anyway, that's all I had to say. All I had to say, like just, God, I hate that sort of thinking. I can't stand it.
Starting point is 00:18:57 All right. I really appreciate you guys. As I mentioned earlier, these games can sometimes suck to think about, to talk about, to watch every nine innings of. But doing it with this community is awesome. You guys can catch any part of the audio if you missed it on any sort of podcast, platform you use. You can go back in the YouTube link and watch us from the beginning. Make sure to do so if you missed any part of today's postcast. Be sure to catch Ty and
Starting point is 00:19:25 Kobe tomorrow on Locked on Mariners. They're going to give a little bit bigger of a deep dive. And they have something pretty dang special. Yes, they do. Because Meena Conch from ESPN, no Mariners fan is joining their show. That's an awesome, awesome interview. I've had a little sneak peek of it myself. I can't wait for you guys to see it. So please make sure to tune in because it's a really, really good one. The best in the business. And I'm also talking about Ty and Colby with that one as well as Mina Kimes.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But Mina is so good. And I saw the same snippet that Anders did. And it was incredible. So please check that one out. Please make sure you hit like on this video. Please make sure you're subscribed. Checking this out on Spotify and all that stuff. but especially please check out that video because mean it costs a lot of money and we need to make
Starting point is 00:20:19 sure that we can keep doing these man like it was 65 650 something like that yeah thou oh geez geez he went there yeah you know what if i was minikimes that's how much i would be charging because i have that gosh dang good and guarantee viewers for yourself so um by the way somebody asking here about how long can we win on Ben Williamson. I actually think Ben Williamson's looked pretty darn good over the last few games. The power's not there, but he's hitting the ball to the opposite field and the defense still looks really good. I just don't think, sure, you're looking to upgrade at third base at some point, you know, this summer, but I think Ben Williamson is pretty low in my humble estimation in terms of problems for the Seattle Mariners.
Starting point is 00:21:08 He wouldn't be number one for me, but I wouldn't say it's low. I'd say third base is definitely a position I'm looking to get. I need some offense from that. If you make me watch Jorge Polanco field the baseball, I will come for you, dude. I'm not saying that you have a better option right now. Yeah. Well, I'm saying third base is a need moving forward. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Okay. I feel probably in the middle of what I said and what you said, if I'm being completely honest with you. But you have to stand for him because no one else is right. I do think that Ben Williamson has been much more helper than Herder in 2025. All right. Well, I just want to mention one more time. It's been a while since we've done this.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I try and just reset everything to make sure you guys know what's going on here. Maybe this is your first time tuning into us. Chris and I are Mariners postcast hosts on the Lockdown Mariners podcast YouTube page. Don't worry. Ty and Colby are still a part of everything we're doing here. We're collaborating altogether. It's Chris and I right after every Mariners game, but then Ty and Colby are your daily podcast.
Starting point is 00:22:14 They kind of take a bigger view of things, maybe looking into what's going on with his offense recently. They'll probably take a deep dive into George Kirby's start tomorrow as well. But, of course, the big thing tomorrow is talking to me to Kimes, which is an awesome, awesome opportunity for them. So cool. So I'm pretty jealous, but also I'm going to go watch it myself. So I get to enjoy it as a listener and not have to worry.
Starting point is 00:22:36 about asking the right questions. So I'll leave that to the pros. You guys, thanks so much for tuning in. Really appreciate everyone who listens to us every single day. It makes these tough games a lot easier. But we'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do play tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Final game of the series. I don't know what I was thinking there. I guess I'm just thinking Thursday, maybe the normal day off. But whatever. Final game in the series, let's go win the series. All right, let's put this one behind us. If they come out tomorrow, it kind of makes us forget the last one. one. So I think that's a good one. Any last words, Christopher Crawford? I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:23:11 All right. Me too. Make sure you don't talk at the end of the end card here, okay? We'll see.

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