Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MARINERS POSTCAST: Seattle Mariners DROP First Game of Series to Arizona Diamondbacks

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

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This is the Mariners Postcast. Your instant game reaction for the Seattle Mariners. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. It's 1021 Pacific Daylight Time on June 9th, 2025. And that is the most Mariners of Mariner games that I've ever seen, especially in the last three or four years. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Where they give you hope, and then they.

just punch you right in the gut at the end and can't do anything for two extra innings. Yeah. I'm exhausted, guys. Yep. This is a facade. I get it was a cool moment. I was pretty hyped when Dom Canzone hit the home run. It was pretty fun.

I'm not a registered Dom Canzone lover by any stretch of the imagination. But it was fun. cool moment, you know, but this offense was terrible for eight and a half innings. Awful, awful, awful. They basically got shut out. And then they basically went back to being awful again after a cool ninth inning where a couple guys had some big hits. Yeah.

I can't remember the first one before Solano was at Solano knocked in. I want to say it was Cole Young. I think it was Dylan Moore drew a walk. Oh, yeah, you're right. And then he stole second pace. No second. Yeah. Solano.

Solano hits it in and then Julio gets, or JP gets a hit, and then Julio gets a hit after the Dom-Can zone home run. And it looks like, okay, they're starting to break out of their funk a little bit. And nope, and you see the extra innings. And it's just, sorry, long intro there. Anderson Hurst here, Christopher Crawford. We've been waiting a long time to go live. And we were hoping to be excited to be waiting a long time to go live.

But no, we are not. Chris Crawford, initial thoughts on this game. It's just such a Seattle Mariner game. And I know that's an easy thing to say. The Mariners win lots of blowouts. They lose lots of blowouts. They win a lot of close games. They lose a lot of close games.

But some of them just feel very Seattle Marinery. Like the type of game that you would see like written into an episode of Frazier. You know, that type of thing. I can hear the blues of calling in those tossed salads and scrambled eggs so much in games. so much in games like this. And it just stinks because there's so much good and bad to take from this. But the good doesn't matter. The good doesn't matter because Anders,

do you remember what I said yesterday about how much fun it is to talk about the wins? I mean, you can like just ignore what happened in the five games before. Then you've got stuff like this and you got to talk about it. And you've got to just be honest of what you saw today and what you saw today. was a punctuation, I hope a punctuation, of one of the worst weeks of Seattle Mariners in this decade. I know they've won one game, but this is just not good, man.

This is, and that's the obvious, most obvious of obvious points, but nothing you are seeing right now is good enough. No, it's not. It's not. And that's kind of what, so peeked behind the curtain. I was preparing to go solo today because something came up. But because we went so long, Chris was like, hey, I'll hop back in. Let's go live.

So I was actually going to. The funny thing is, I was thinking, holy crap, this game is flying by, flying by for the first six innings. And any time you think something like that, you're destined for extras. It is the Ryan Divish curse of Ryan Divich. Yes, yes, it is. You short little man that has ruined everything for me. Every sense he brought up something that if you think a game is going short, it's going to go extras.

Yeah. It seems to happen a lot. I hope you're doing well in Montana though, buddy. Yeah, we miss you. Hopefully he comes back soon. So what I was going to say is we're going to solicit your guys' comments today because this team is playing bad baseball right now. And I kind of tweeted out earlier thinking that this,

the game was going to be over in the ninth inning when we were down by four. Thank you, Dom Kanzone. Welcome back, by the way. But we're asking you, what is the thing about this team? And I don't necessarily want to get into roster construction. I don't want to get obviously into ownership or anything like that. That's a tie and Colby conversation. I'm just talking about the play on the field what needs to change for this team.

Because I'm just, I'm curious because I can go a lot of different directions. but I want to know what the general thought amongst the public is. So comment in who you guys think or what you think really needs to change. Really, it's a tough one to kind of break down. But yeah, and I mentioned it yesterday when we went live after the Angels win. It seemed like there was a lot of positive signs coming from this. Kind of the blueprint of a Mariners win you like to see, really good starting pitching. offense was started to turn it up a little bit you saw good games from randy a rosarena

who had another good one today by the way yep absolutely and just all that went down the drain again it just looks like the team we've seen for the last couple weeks yeah i think that's a great point it just it's so familiar and borderline formulaic like it's just almost like boring to see how the mariners seem to write the same script, not just every game, but every season, man. Like every year we see something like this. And it's either a super high or a super low. But can I just watch the Seattle Mariners be consistently a good baseball team for two months? Just two months.

That's all I'm asking. And not to have it happen after you start at 19 and 29, you know, just two months of good, solid baseball and I just get so frustrated with it. I think we got to talk about Emerson Hancock today. Yeah, let's do it. Because, you know, he did start the game and all that stuff. I thought Hancock pitched pretty well. Now, he wasn't as good as he was.

The previous start against, who was that last start against? I should remember, but he pitched really well in that outing, just gave up. I think it was Baltimore that he just gave up that one run, five and two thirds innings. that home run from Corvin Carroll was a good piece of fitting and a lucky piece of hitting. The expected batting average on that home run was 160. 160. And look, you got the right length.

He got the right. Or launch eagle on it, it worked out. But really outside of that and a little bit of scuffle in the fifth inning, Emerson Hancock deserved to win today. Emerson Hancock pitched more than well enough to win against a pretty tough lineup. There are some good Arizona Diamondback hitters. I've been really encouraged with what I have seen from Emerson Hancock really sensed that first disaster of a start.

And even before that, I liked what I saw in spring training from him as well. Like the velocity, everything, regardless, the long story shorter is that Emerson Hancock was not the issue tonight. Five innings of two-run baseball on the road against a quality flawed, but quality lineup should be good enough to win. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I still see pretty big holes in his game. For someone who doesn't strike out,

for someone who doesn't strike out very many batters, he walks too many people at the same time. Way too many people. Totally agree. If you're going to pitch to contact, you've got to throw strikes, man, and trust your stuff. And that's kind of what does him in whenever,

you know, he has, starts like these that don't, he doesn't blow up ever, it seems like, except that first start of the season, really. Right. I was just going to say.

Yeah. But other than that, I mean, He, it's a fine fifth or sixth starter. It's a perfectly cromulate back end starter. We prefer it to be the very back end, the literal dumper. But, you know, if he's in your hindquarters or whatever way you're going, I guess, it's totally fine as I guess a fourth starter as well.

But preferably, he'd be your fifth guy. And if your fifth guy gives you five innings of two run baseball, you should win. David, this is an excellent comment. It's crazy this loss isn't even the top five as far as pain in the past two weeks. It's true. Yeah. It's true. We should do a whole episode on ranking the most painful losses just from the past two weeks.

Oh, gosh. That'd be a long one. We would go pretty long. Yeah. So I don't know, man. This is the thing about doing a daily show. We start talking about the same stuff over and over again. So I want to hear you guys' thoughts.

Yeah. Do you think the pitching needs to be better? Because I think you could definitely get more from your starting pitching, especially a team that's built on that. But there's no way you can say that this offense is anywhere near good enough. So for an S-Bam, thanks for checking in with us today. We love to have Nathan on to tell us how good Dom Kanzone is. Go to bed, buddy.

You have a whole day ahead of you. Like, come on. I appreciate it. some sleep. Uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay, let's get into the, hmm, where do I want to go with this? We talked about Emerson Hancock, um, offensively really bad for eight and a half

innings. Let's talk about the Dom can zone at bat, um, because it seemed like all was lost and it was like a meme at that point. Oh, what if he, what if he does it against his former team, uh, you know, the first day he comes back in the majors. Andrews and Chris were absolutely pooping on him earlier on the radio show. Like, what if that happens, then it ends up happening? Hey, would you say that maybe we were seven-second dumping on?

We definitely were seven-second dumping. We were. The streak is over. I thought that was a really cool moment. And it's one of my favorite things about baseball is that as long as you are not too, far gone. There's a lot of times a great moment that can come out of a crappy thing. And I will be able to, in probably three or four hours, give or take, be able to really recognize what a cool moment that is. Because Dom Kanzon knows what you're saying about him. Dom Kanzone knows

how gladly he failed, I mean, flailed after. Remember what happened with Don Kanzone that he had that amazing start in spring training like yeah was just clobbering everything so much that he won the starting job over luke raley was that he was like yeah yeah yeah yeah he was that hot with the bat and then he just particularly flat out couldn't be played against left handers and wasn't doing enough against right handers the expected stat suggested there was some bad luck he's not a good defensive player blah blah blah none of that matters tonight because in a situation that turned an absolutely ugly, pathetic loss into at least a nail biter. And maybe, just maybe if things would have gone right, turns everything around.

And you're talking about a two-game winning streak and a winning, when's the last time they won the first game of a freaking series, man? A long time ago. That's actually, I'm going to look at that while you keep talking. That seems forever ago. It's the nationals, I think. They won that 9 to 1 game and we thought everything was good. And then, you know what it happened?

The Seattle Mariners turned back into the Seattle Mariners. So, okay, now let's go to extras. I'm going to start on the pitching side and then we can get to offense. Okay. I think there's a lot of people asking about the use of the leverage arms. I thought we were turning a corner when Dan Wilson was using Munoz in a non-save opportunity in the bottom of the ninth. After just tying the game, I was like, yes, yes. And Munoz gets through, albeit there was a hard contact out.

I think it was the second back. matter he faced anyways. But he gets through it on, what, eight pitches? And then the Mariners, you know, do their thing. And then we come back and it's Carlos Vargas in the 10th and Carlos Vargas in the 11th. There's a lot of people asking about Matt Brash. I just want your thoughts. He did pitch yesterday. I don't have the numbers in front of me on how many pitches he threw yesterday. But that is something to keep in mind is he is, of course, still coming back from Tom and John. Hey, Anders. Here's what I want to do. I want to do a spoiler thing, but I think we should talk about game time and stuff first, and then we'll get into my

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So this is the problem with having your second best reliever being treated with kid gloves, right? Because you're pretty obviously using Matt Brash against the top of that lineup. And I will say this. I loved seeing Andres Munoz used in that situation. Yeah. Like, don't save him for something that may or may not occur. In fact, we know it didn't occur. So thank goodness that we didn't have a chance to comply.

about that, but we can, I think, it's more about roster construction than it is about Wilson. It's more about the fact that because of the fact that Matt Brash, and if you want to blame this on Gregory Santos not working out, okay, well, then that was a bad trade. That was a really bad trade. Because neither of those guys are great now, but you use pretty mediocre option at best. So to me, it's more about the roster construction. I personally don't have an issue knowing what they had with what they did. Like, Carlos Vargas was the better option. You're not pitching Jackson CoR against those guys. You're not pitching, who did we say, the other arm that was available? I think it was just Co-R. It's just co-arm, right? Well, I mean, there are some people asking to see

if Munoz only had eight pitches. Do you throw him back out there to 10? So here's the thing. Yes, I would have had Andrews Munoz Munoz go back out there for that inning. Like, he's and you know it probably doesn't matter either way because i don't think carlos vargas was going to get through those guys you know so it's true maybe he's a little more effective the very first time that a lineup is seeing him you know that josh nailers paying attention josh taylor's looking at where those pitches and velocity and all of that stuff i didn't have a huge issue with it but i would have preferred to see andres munio's go another inning because he's probably not available tomorrow.

Like they're not, I don't think they're going to use Andres Munoz back to back to back. I just don't think that's going to happen. So why not use him for 20 pitches, knowing that he's going to get an off day anyway. So that, that's my biggest issue. It's not the reason they lost.

But I really do think you've got to get another bullpen arm and especially, and again, Ty and Colby, you'll have all of this covered their show, all that stuff. They're better than us, yada, yada, yada.

You've got to go get another lefty for this bullpen, man. Like, that's the perfect situation to bring in a lefty for. That is the perfect situation where you have left-handed hitter, switch-hitter, switch-hitter, left-handed hitter. Go bring in that left-tee. Go bring in. It's too bad Taylor Sissado's not that guy.

But go get the 2022 version of Taylor Sissetto, 20-3 version of Taylor Sissetto, to make this bullpen better. I think that it's more about roster construction than it is about today how Dan Wilson used that bowl. Yeah, so let's get to the offensive side of the extra innings. I mean, we can talk about the offense during the nine-inning stretch all we want. It's just, it's been the same stuff we've been talking about for the past two weeks, just not good enough, non-competitive at bats.

I know Merrill Valley's good. It's just weird. I was going to ask you this before it went into something way bigger than it should have been to be honest about this game. But is he someone that, like, I look at his game log and he's had a really good year. He's had like one or two blowup starts. But he's whatever reason.

But then I watch him pitch. And it's like that guy doesn't look like he would be dominating an entire lineup. How does he do it? It's a really interesting profile because he's a guy I've followed a while because he and Chris Flexen were kind of those guys who came over after pitching overseas and just kind of put it all together. There's a ton of deception to his delivery. It's one of the reasons why he's usually among the lead leaders in chase rate. There's nothing super impressive about him, but his off-speed stuff because you get so much chase, like he ranks in the 99th percentile

in off-speed run value this year. That's really good. And 88th percentile for breaking the stuff. The change-up is really good. His change-up, and it's one of those things where to question a little bit, Dan Wilson there, I would have preferred to have a right-handed hitting line up there because it really neutralizes that change up. He's not going to throw that pitch to more right-handed hitters. So maybe a little too lefty. I may have started Donovan Solano today instead of- God. That means starting Donovan Solano, Mitch Garver, and Dylan Moore. No thing. No thanks. So, you know, and I'm not saying you bench J.P. Crawford or bench any of those guys for that situation. But I do think that, you know, going all lefty, lefty heavy may have been a mistake there.

So to answer your question, Merrill Kelly's a solid pitcher. That doesn't mean the Ameriors' offense was good tonight. Like there were some terrible at bats. Julio had a few terrible ones. And I hate doing it, especially after I made my stupid joke about him yesterday. Big Dumber had a rough one today, a rough one. But and you know what, again, and I've said this a few times, that is not insulting big dumper. That's insulting the rest of this team that they cannot, they flat out cannot score enough runs unless that dude does something. Unless that dude does something,

J.P. Crawford getting on four times is awesome. It's all at first base. It's all at first base. And he's not fast enough to go make plays by himself. And the offense isn't good enough to move him to second base. That's not an insult to J.P. Crawford. It's just saying that he's a, complimentary piece.

Randia Rosarin is starting to pick things of. It's nice to see Julio with two hits after those first three at bats were just so awful, awful, awful. So, but it was nice to see a little bit of an adjustment there. It's still, he should have, he had a pitch that he should have hit 800 feet today, 800 feet sinker right down the middle of the plate. And he just fouls it off. And in fact, he just fouls it off meekly, just a little chopper towards third base.

this offense has to be better. And they make Merrill Kelly's look like Max Scherzer's too often. Then that's, again, I'm not insulting Merrill Kelly. I'm just saying that the Mariners, anytime you get shut out by a starting pitcher, give all the credit you want. The offense has a part in that. The offense always has a part in that. And especially if it's not a Tarek Scooball or a George Kirby yesterday,

who, you know, you can't really blame the Angels Haders for that one, I think. think you just got to say, hey, George Kirby was freaking awesome. It's just not a good enough offense. And they make above average pitchers like Morel Kelly, maybe even slightly above, above average, put them in that 60 grade on the 2080 scale. They make them look like 70s too often. Yeah. And it's something that we noticed as a different kind of element to the Mariners offense when

they were going. And we were giving all the praise to Kevin Seitzer and Edgar Martinez. is it seemed like they were working, they were working counts, they were working good starters out of the game early in the fifth inning, uh, instead of the sixth, seventh inning. And we're not seeing that.

We're in this stretch where the offense has just gone to crap, we're not seeing that anymore. And it's, it's not like a cow issue. He's obviously still having a great year. He had a bad game today, but, but, but even just if you look at the stretch of the,

this, what we're talking about what the last. month, three weeks, I guess, since the Padre series, it's, it's, that kind of factor is the main thing that sticks out to me is they, they would get to those pitchers, aces, whoever you want to get to, get to the meat of the bullpen early in the series. So then later in the series, they would not be able to use those arms. And now it's just like we're flailing around. We're making, like you said, the Merrill Kellys of the world, that Trevor Williams, of the world. Who is the one from Baltimore? Kyle Gibson's of the world. Like, just all of them.

They look like they're aces against us again. And it's just, God, we've done this the last three years, man. And it seemed like it was different for the first month and a half of the season. It's just not anymore. And I'll be honest, the big difference here was Jorge Polanco. When Jorge Polanco was playing at that level, the Seattle Marrower offense looked well above average. And now this current version, even though I'm starting to see some life from Jorge Palano. A little bit. Yeah. Now we're close to what he, and we aren't asking him to have a 700 slugging percentage. He had a 700 slugging percentage for a little bit.

We're not asking that. I'm asking just. I want, I want a 775 OPS dude. If you could be a 775 OPS dude with a couple other guys, like, if you, you got 775 OPSs from, and I know this is going to offend somebody, if you got 775 OPS from from Julio, from Crawford, from Randy Rose Arena, and you have the 900 version, 850 version of Cal Raleigh, it's a really good offense. It's a really, really good offense. But even if their numbers end up close to there, we will remember that there's so many peaks in valleys for these hitters to get there. So many peaks and valleys for everyone I mentioned there, except for

Big Dumber. By the way, O-1-1 with him in the lineup since being benched. It's time to look elsewhere. Hashtag not my MVP. Yes, he is. He's my MVP. I'm calling it right now. I mean, it's not calling it, but I'm hoping it happens, obviously. Jumping on the boat early. Very early boat jumper. All right. Well, we're back to bad vibes. I thought, Yesterday would have been a good kind of changing of the guard here going back to the good, good offensive performances, good starting pitching. We get Brian Wu tomorrow. I mean, let's hope he comes out with his A game.

And you've got to take the second game of this series because they have to win the next two games just to get 500 on this road trip. Yep. Yep. And, you know, you're playing a Diamondbacks team that has been inconsistent at best. You were just playing a Los Angeles Angels team that, I mean, just watching those guys again. I'll do respect to Mike Trout,

one of the greatest players I've ever seen. You're playing teams that are worse than you in talent right now. You're playing teams that are worse than you in talent, and you are flailing. You're just flailing. It sucks because it's not early. It is not early in the season whatsoever. And these series really matter,

and you have got to beat the teams that you are supposed to beat. Obvious point is obvious. but doesn't actually. Our friend Brian said Wu was pushed as they moved Bryce Miller to the IL, Logan Evans to us tomorrow.

Okay. So a little bit of a change. I hadn't seen that. I didn't see that either. That's really interesting. It literally is just now. Bryce Miller will be scratched from his Wednesday start

and return to the engine list. Logan Evans will start tomorrow with Brian Wu moving to Wednesday. So Bryce Miller is going back to the IL. I think something we were kind of predicting for, while. Yeah.

I wish there was a daily, I wish there was a daily podcast that could like break this down and like really talk about it. Yeah. Like specifically, if they were, say, keyed in on the Seattle Mariners, like that's what I would call it to is keyed in. I don't know if that's the right preposition. I would go, I'd go locked on Mariners.

Locked, locked in Mariners. I like that. Okay, okay. You're actually locked into the Mariners. But yeah, I think a daily podcast. to talk about that stuff would be really cool. All jokes aside, check out Ty and Colby tomorrow. They will probably be breaking down this move.

Jokes. The game tonight. Yeah, jokes, right. Really appreciate you guys hanging out with us today. A tough one. I'm sorry I didn't have a ton of energy. I was ready to rage after the first night innings. Then I was excited after the Dom-Kanzone home run.

And then I was just dejected after watching the extra endings unfold. It was just, and I'm done. It's 10.50 p.m. It's kind of crazy. that just, you know, I don't care. I was ready to go to the emergency room. I was not, some of you guys know I have cirrhosis, and I also have a growth in my head.

So it's a bad time. And I was ready to go. And then I kind of decided, number one, I don't like abandoning my boy. And number two, might as well just go tomorrow where I can actually get real care from real doctors. But it's kind of, I think I had more energy than you today.

And I think that makes me a better person than you. It probably does. I don't deny it. I really don't deny it because you have way more excuses to not have the energy. So I'm just hanging out here and I'm a lazy boy. So all right, guys, thanks so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Hopefully we get back to winning ways, as we mentioned.

And thank you, Brian, for updating us. It is Logan Evans tomorrow. Logan Evans makes his return to the starting rotation. Hopefully he can bring it and get this team back on track. We went on today. Have a good night. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Check out Ty and Colby with Locked on Mariner's tomorrow.

The game went long. It's not our fault. The game went long. That's fair. Talk to you guys tomorrow.