Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MARINERS POSTCAST: Seattle Mariners GET SWEPT by Philadelphia Phillies

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Anders and Chris break down the last game of what has been a tough road trip for the Mariners.  Luis Castillo was only able to go 4 innings, Julio hits a homer, but the Mariners get swept to end a pitiful road trip.  Dan Wilson is not a good manager. Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! 5-Hour ENERGYTee up that trip! Enter for a chance to win a dream golf trip for two to any golf tournament* in the USA. Visit 5HEWIN.com for full rules and entry. No purchase necessary. Excludes the Master’s tournament. Ends October 31, 2025. PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LO... Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year. GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime. FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is the Mariners Postcast. Your instant game reaction for the Seattle Mariners. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Perhaps I'm being hyperbolic, but is it crazy for me to think that... Here, wait, let me leave this. This is fine. Oh, man. Yeah.

What I was going to say before that, amazing... me and thank you Chris Cofford for making my day a little bit better. I like that. Is it crazy for me to think that Dan Wilson might be worse at his job than Dylan Morris? Oh my God. No. And the fact that's even a question is crazy man. Like, God, there's so much to break down today.

This is a marriage postcast. Dan Wilson's not a good manager. Castillo was bad. but somehow only gives up three finds a way to get through four innings even though it might have been his worst start of the night like not looking at results might as a worst start the season

in terms of how his stuff looked. It was bad. Julio's great. Gino continues to be hot and that's kind of it. You get absolutely dominated. I am really trying not to swear. You're getting absolutely dominated.

by in your East Coast trip. You end up getting swept by the Philadelphia Phillies. Chris Crawford, what are your thoughts? Before I just go off, go ahead. I'm just going to make it simple for you now. Hell no. Like, like absolutely not. Like none of this, right? Like this is no. No. Are you kidding me? Absolutely not. No. Hell no. Hell to the no. Hell a no. No squared. Hell no squared. the hypotenuse of dexterity, hell no, absolutely not. No. I'll add another note to that, just because... Thank you.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's do something today. We'll start with the start, Castillo. Not good. Once again, the fact that Bryce Miller was your best starting pitcher since Brian Wu on Friday. Not good. Not good at all. Yeah, just his Velo's down again. I'm starting to get some worries that there might be some injury stuff with him

because it's not looking good. And the Phillies are a good team. You can't get away with what he tried to get away with today. Somehow, again, somehow he gives up only three runs, and you're still in the game by the time he leaves the game. And I actually, before we just go off on Dan Wilson, I actually admired the decision earlier, early in the game, to go to Bizarro and then Brash. I really like that. I was like, okay, you're pitching to stay in this game.

And then Gino delivers to keep you in the game. And then when it's a one-run game going into the seventh inning, you go to Taylor Sossado. Oh, it's just, it's mismanagement. It's complete mismanagement, man. And back to Castillo, like, yeah, before we get into it. It was bad. It was really bad.

It was awful on this home, or on this road trip, excuse me. He just did not look like he was fooling anybody. Like the start against the Mets, you know, we're just doing a game by game. but it's concerning that this was back-to-back clunkers against this against these types of lineups right and to be fair the Phillies lineups better than the Mets lineup like it's elite it's really good yeah really good by the way I admire petty and I think that showing the pettiness to hand Kyle Schwabre the MVP because you're mad at show Hey Otani for not signing you upper echel on peddness great job Seattle Mariners right like what a great way to rub it in and be like no

We're going to let Kyle Swarber hit 14 home runs off of him, and he's going to get his MVP. He might be the MVP. Like, he's having a really, really good year. It's going to go to Otani. But it was just a very poor start, very poor start. What do you give up? 10 hits and four innings. It wasn't dinked and dunked, guys.

It was a lot of hard contact. You know, the triple, I think Julio can catch that ball. That's a pretty tough play, though. Just out of his arm, we would have been talking about. about that being one of the plays. But like, comment, Kendall.

Hazis Lazzardo probably, you know what? Probably. He probably would start with starting with the rain delay. Oh, and by the way, I appreciate everyone who likes my hoodie and my background today because I'm in my dark place with this baseball team right now.

By the way, right before we started, Anders, not right before, but just before. Ian called me and asked if I can come on at 2 o'clock. So I'm going to have to avoid swearing twice. We'll see how well I do.

Have fun with that. We'll see how hard that can be for you sometimes. Yes, absolutely. So, yeah, back to it. Luis Castillo was bad. It was a bad start. It's easy to forget because of how crappy some of the arms who pitched after him were. But Luis Castillo has to pitch better.

Yeah. Yeah, you strike out 17 times. Okay, but again, I'm going to go into the players downfall today. You strike out 17 times today and the other team gets 20 hits and 20 hits for the second straight game. So. That's so many hits. That's a lot of hits. So many hits against a team that is still built, excuse me, on run prevention.

Yes. It's still a team that is built on preventing runs. They didn't prevent anything today. and they didn't prevent really anything like this whole week. Two and seven, man. That's just such an awful. By the way, the difference between three and six and two and seven, I know one games, it's massive.

I just feel like it's massive. Especially if it's the last game today. Especially it's the last game. You get a chance to get the win. You get to go home and play against a not very good Sacramento baseball team. Like, but you just, I mean, you the bedded so hard tonight. like just have to wash those sheets for you're throwing out the sheets from this one right they're they're soil dude they're they're done they are completely done they are those sheets that you see

at a hospital that are just like the nurse cannot wait to get rid of those things i can't wait to get rid of this series man and you know it's weird i kind of wish they were playing tomorrow you know just to like get some bad taste out of your mouth i know at the same time i don't want to deal with this again. You know what I mean? I don't want to watch this baseball team right now. It's so crazy how the vibes have changed so quickly. But yeah, Luis Castillo was really bad. I'm sorry, Mac, man. That's not my intention. You know what? I don't know if I've ever heard Mr. Beast talk before. Yeah. You've seen a lot of thumbnails of him on YouTube. I see. You have a similar

official. Should I go deeper like this? the entire top. Okay, before we get to the second half of the show, I want to just kind of quickly run down. I want to ask you, Chris Crawford, how concerned are you about this pitching? I realize it's just one road trip, but again, you said it,

and I think that's perfectly stated. This team is built on run prevention. Everyone's excited about the new offense, and you know, you can point at certain times in the series where the offense wasn't great, but you still end up scoring a decent amount of runs in each of these games. Yeah, sure, their garbage time runs a lot along on those lines as well. But personally, I don't think the offense is the issue.

It's your pitching, dude. When you have terrible starting pitching, this is what it looks like. So how, like, do you see any light at the end of the tunnel? Is this just all bad starts and clumped one area? Or is this something that we need to be starting to be concerned about? Let me, let me, let me get in my thinking space. Okay, thinking sphere, thinking sphere. I'm trying to be rational because what you saw over the last six, right?

It wasn't really the Baltimore series, right? The Baltimore series was fine. Yeah, it was fine. You pitched well in that series. But the Mets series was really bad. My concern is not for the next, what do we got left? three, uh, 34 games, right? 34.

Yeah. My concern is not for the next 34. My concern is what happens after that, right? Like, are any of these guys good enough to go up against a great lineup? Now, you got to get there still. And the way they've played over the last nine games, you're not going to get there. You will blow this if you keep playing like this. Obvious point is probably obvious.

But I do think the pitching will be okay. I do think the pitching will be okay. I, if you want to take the most. positive view possible, you're getting the clunkers out of the way, right? You're getting those bad starts that you have to have out of the way because nobody's perfect. I always, I think we talked about this in one show. Whenever I root for a good college basketball team, I always hope that they lose either right before the conference tournament or in the conference tournament, because you can't keep playing great forever, right? Sure. So if you want to get these out of the way, so you finish hot

at the end of the year. Great. That being said, there's process and there's result. Those results were S word. The process was S word too, right? Like, it wasn't bad luck. There was not like, and I'll give Castile credit for battling and limiting only to three runs. Sure. That's what you want to say. But like, man, but to answer your question on a scale of one to five, how concerned I would be about this pitching, I'd probably go at two point seven. a little bit above average, right? Like, so that's a concern, you know, but it's not like an all-out, boy,

this is just ridiculous. I love the look. I love the look. Let's just make it a little bit tighter. I just need to see it. I need to see it. I think this is a big home stand. I want to see these guys, like, prove, and you know what, there will be something where people say,

well, they can get it done at home, right? I just want to see them get it done. I just want to see them get it done. done. So I would go 2.75. Yeah, I think I'd agree with you. I usually do the DefCon 5 to DefCon 1 sort of scale. So similar to what you were saying, except backwards as you're going back into your thinking sphere. I'd probably go DefCon 2.

Okay. So that's, for those who don't know, DefCon 1 is like, oh my God, what is going on? Alarm bells ringing right now. Can someone send me a screenshot of what's happening right now? Just because, yeah, just clip this. We'll be all over social media. You'll find it later. but yeah i just to me i feel like so much of what made that homestands so successful was kind of

the vibes in the stadium was like the players building off of that and i think that's what led to a nine and one like okay like we got something here you pissed that all the way you did i'm sorry you did like you and you have to build that up again you can't just assume like oh okay we just were on the road for a certain amount of time You know, the fans will come back and support us just like we were, just like they were 10 days ago. No, you pissed it all the way. You got to build it up again, all right, which sucks. Because I'm a huge believer in momentum.

Yeah, I think that especially in a long season like this, and we saw it. I've mentioned this before. We saw it in 2022. The 14 game winning streak is the reason you made the playoffs. Okay. That is the reason. So you've got to lengthen the good stretches and try and shrink the bad stretches. as much as possible.

You can't just keep going 50-50 like this team is right now. Now, I realize the Astros keep losing as well. So you can look at it one way. Personally, I'm almost, this is how I look at it. Who do you think is happier that both teams are losing right now? The Astros or the Mariners? It's good point. It's the Astros because they're in the lead, okay?

They're like, oh, we're still in the lead of a game and a half. It's the Mariners who need to catch up. So they need to win. So I just, I can't do that. anymore. I'm sorry. And just to have it, and it's one thing to lose, like you said, but it's another thing to get absolutely

Mollywell. Yes. Yes. And outclassed. Yeah. Yeah. You cannot watch this series and think that the Seattle Mariners are as good as Philadelphia Phillies. There's no way. Not even close. There's just no way. By the way, I'm just realizing that the hat is lined up perfectly right now.

It's like it's like it's like I kind of look like goofy where he's wearing his little hat thing. Gorsh. I'm, I'm, been a lot of fun with my, that was terrible. Speaking of terrible, the Seattle Mary stink. Okay.

Let's get into a big reason why I think they stink. I want to maybe have Chris Crawford talk me off the ledge on how bad the managerial situation is. But first, we're going to give some love to game time. Oh, boy. Breathe.

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Like this is just really impressive work by Chris Crawford. Okay. Andrews come back in. Yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming. Don't worry. Okay. How bad is Dan Wilson?

I'm just going to open that up to you. I don't think he's doing a good job. And I honestly, if I was feeling better, I would be probably yelling a little bit more right now and yelling a lot more. The decision, okay, sixth inning, I actually really liked the decision to go to Matt Brash there. And I was shocked when I saw him come in the game because I was working and all of a sudden I see Matt Brash come in. I was like, what? After he threw 22 pitches last night? Some urgency.

Thank you. Yeah. It was like, oh, okay, a little bit of, you know, a little bit of, what's the word I'm looking for here? You're really want to win this game. Yeah. Really urgency. That's the word I couldn't think. Just really wanting to get into this thing. And then A. Oh, Hennio Suarez hits the home run to make it three, two. By the way, Julio just misses on that Homer to end that inning, too.

Oh, my gosh. Then you were talking about a lot. No, that wasn't that inning. I'm sorry. That was the inning before. Big Dumber lines out. Big Dumber at a horrible game today. Julio lines out, just misses on that pitch.

But you get that run in the seventh inning to make it three, two. You're right back in the game. The decision to bring Matt Brash in is a successful one because you kept you in the game. And you go to Taylor Sossetto? That's your answer is to go to Taylor Sossetto? Why? After you get it run closer? Why?

And a bunch of people tried to justify by this? Oh, it's because it's the bottom of the order. You need to bring in somebody. You don't want to waste one of your high leverage relievers. Shut up! It's a high leverage situation. It doesn't matter who's freaking hitting in the spot. And then to leave him in against Turner and Harper. What are you doing? He's doing the rest of this. Yeah. Feel better, Chris. I mean, yeah, I couldn't say it any better. Not to mention in the seventh inning after Gino hits the home run, I get it.

Jump scare. Jum Scare, whoa. I get it. You have David Robertson in at that point. This is still top the seventh, by the way. You leave Garver in for him. Yes. And then you pinch it Rayleigh for Solano instead.

Yes. I get it. You're trying to keep two catchers available in case you need an emergency situation. But, man. Yeah. If you look at, I realize Solano is not everyone's favorite. But he's so much better than Garver against right-hand of pitching. I mean, and the thing is to, you know, I can't help, but, like, I don't want to take a victory lap because it doesn't feel good.

No. But Andershurst, you have no idea how many people were such a-holes to me when I said Luke Rayleigh can't hit left-handed pitching. You have no idea. You have to give it a try. You have to let him see if he can get up. He's hitting 0.50, all right? And less than that now. He can't do it. It's not even an insult to him. A lot of guys can't do it, right? It's hard. When you have a Josh Nehler who is not completely inept against left-handers. It's a huge compliment to him, right? It is not so much an insult to Luke Rayleigh.

He can't do it. He just flat out can't do it. And Dan Wilson has to know that they have lefties in that bullpen to go in and pitch in that situation too, right? I just feel like the moment's too big for Wilson. I just feel like it is. And this is what happens when you hire a guy who has no, not only no managerial experience, no coaching experience with a major league team like working with players on the stuff um yeah this is this was a

shock to me too dank but that people on the internet can be able i would just absolutely stunned at how novel concept i said yep what a concept to squel my good friends it's what smash mouth um it just feels like it's too big for him it just feels like and you know it's not just hindsight right It's not just saying, oh, well, this decision didn't work. This decision didn't work. Because, Anders, I think we've been fair. And we've mentioned moments we've liked from Dan Wilson. I just literally did.

The decision was really, I liked it. I really liked it. I really hated the decision to go to Sossetto. Like, in terms of both process and result, and he got his stuff pushed in. It was awful. It was a horrible, horrible game for him. And, you know, I'll give Sassetto credit. He did look good against.

the Mets in a very low leverage situation, very low leverage situation. I am much more concerned about the manager of the Seattle Mariners than I am about the pitching staff. I'll tell you that much. Okay. That's great. Let's jump off on that because I also want to point out as much as hard as I am on Wilson, did the Mariners deserve to win this game?

Were the Mariners the better team today? Oh, that's a good question. No, they got out hit by a lot. Yeah, they did. Their starting pitcher was much better than our starting pitcher. Like, no. So, again, you take some of the good luck with Castillo. It could have been a lot worse with that result with, I guess, bad luck with your manager.

But that's the point, though, is you get a break in how you didn't give up a ton of runs in a bad start for Luis Castillo. And then you piss it all away by making all. awful decisions that don't help your team win baseball games. I went with the taco. I like it. I like it. It's not Tuesday, but Taco Wednesday, sure. The thing is, though, with Dan Wilson, there are certain strengths to certain managers, right?

Maybe some of them are very good at in-game decisions. Obviously, something we have pointed out that we don't think Dan Wilson is good at. Correct. There are some that get their guys fired up, right? They're a good like, let's go. Bring the juice. Come on. We've mentioned their record in delays.

We've mentioned their record in this road trip. His refusal to get tossed in any situation, okay? Maybe they're vibes, guys. And I guess that's the one positive of Dan Wilson is when things are going well, he is fine. You don't see those wards as much, but I feel like that's the case with almost any manager. What does he do well? What does he do well? I'm actually, then this is not a rhetorical question.

I'm actually asking, what does he do well as a manager? The thing with managers, too, is that unless we are in the clubhouse every day, we can't really answer that question. Yeah. Like, as far as that, but I was sure. There is something to be said about, I don't think it's a coincidence that Cal Roller all. having this season no that dan wilson comes in so how much that credit how much that credit goes to kevin cites or n Edgar martine is over probably more than dan wilson because here's the thing um dan wilson was a above average hitter for a lot of his career but he he wasn't like it's not like

all of a sudden you say hey i know how to unlock 47 home runs but like that's um that's that's the thing but it's it's fair to say and i will say that i haven't heard about any knife fights in the seattle Mariner dugouts. I haven't heard about, you know, anything going super wrong in the clubhouse or anything along those lines. But I, the in-game stuff, what we can see, right? What we can see from our own peepers. And what we, what do we always say, Chris, on the postcast? We can only react to what we can only react to what we see. Right. 100,000 percent. Yeah, that's, that's the thing, too, is that, you know, And if the Mariners know more than us, and I sure as hell hope they do,

then maybe there's stuff going on that they're doing that we just, we won't get. And I don't need to get it as long as it works, right? Yeah. But it's not working right now. Like the last nine games have been pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. And it's, I'm not impressed.

I'm not impressed, man. I'm just not. I love a lot of this roster. I love their deadline. I love garlic fries. I don't love what they have done over what have you done for me lately. I can be a little bit reactionary to what the Seattle Mariners have done. And this nine game road trip and what they've done on the road all year this year, guys,

they're 31 and 35 away from Safeco or Team Mobile or Boost Mobile or whatever they call the stadium now. Like, that's not good enough. That is flat out not good enough. And there's a lot of teams this year who are struggling on the road. But then you have to just absolutely kick you know what at home. And they've been good, but not great at home. Yeah. They are 37 and 25.

That's about where the other playoff teams are a little bit worse. Like Boston's 41 and 25, Toronto's really been good, 42 and 21. I just need more. Yeah. I need more. And I can be reactionary right now because I have watched the Seattle Mariners look like a, bad baseball team bad one 18th of the season now that's not that small of a sample no no and uh it just oh it makes me so upset that it comes on the heels of the best stretch of baseball the mergers

have had since 22 and it felt like we were getting over the hump and again you just pissed it all away you have to start i don't want to say from ground zero but sure you're i don't know i just i don't know like all it's the south park man that and it's it's the south park man that and it's gone, right? Like, it's, there, there is a lot of that that happened. And I won't be shocked if they get it back, right? No. It won't be a surprise at all if they go five and one or four and two on this homestead at all, right? But it's disappointing that if you could have gone four and five or even three and six on this road trip or heaven forbid you actually have a winning road trip. God, what are you talking about? The Mariners are probably three games up in the division if you

could have had a winning home stand, right? Like something along those lines. You go over five. Yeah. You're a half game up. Yeah. You could, it doesn't take that much. No. No, it's just, it is,

again, a lot of people in the comments mentioned that they'll be fine. I won't be shocked if they are. Yeah. But it won't be anything based on what we saw. Yeah, if they play like this, they won't be.

Like, I'm sorry. Yeah, it won't be based on anything that we saw today. They really need to kick butt at home. They really need to. I'm going to jump. off that because now this puts pressure on you.

Yes. If you had gone four and five, you know, maybe even three and six, it's like, okay, well, you know, we expect to come home and win these, this next two series. But now, like, you have to. If you don't, big time concerns. Big time, big time concerns. Absolutely. And, you know, stay tuned to Ty and Colby.

I'm sure they should have a very fun episode tomorrow. Yeah. Or they love Jim Wilson. Not they, Chris Crawford? Oh, yeah. They're a big fan. I think that I believe that they may be related to them. I just feel like they just have super nepotism going on.

And that would be one Thanksgiving dinner. That would be a fun one for sure. But we can give it unsung heroes to Detroit Tigers. Thank you, baby. Thank you for doing what you've got to do because without the Detroit Tigers, we would be well effed and far from home, right? Like this is just, this could have gone real, real bad. And it did go real, real bad.

And again, you could be frustrated that if you would have played better with the Houston Astros sucking out loud that, hey, you know, you could have been leading this division. But at least you didn't get both, right? At least you didn't crater while the Houston Astros rose from the ashes. No, they suck too. This is a struggle bus of a division right now. That's true. Not unsung hero, but we didn't mention it long enough. really had a great game.

Julio had a great game. And an awesome game. So I saw some people complaining about being picked off. And okay, sure, here's the thing. Nothing happened offensively. We can be hindsight here. He had three of the five hits, guys. Yeah, he had three of the five hits.

And also he made a terrific diving catch to kind of bail Castillo out. He was really good today. And again, if that would have been, if Gino would have hit a Homer the next pitch, you know, then I would be like, oh, that pickoff really hurts. I don't mind you being aggressive in a game like that, right? I don't mind you meeting in a game where they needed the offense. Like, I don't mind that aggressiveness. I'd love him to be a little bit better, a little bit in those situations.

Sure. But unsung hero, Gapierpire for being ready to come in, even if Dan would rather choose. There's so many more options that you could have gone to instead of that situation. It's just... I'm struggling to think like... What? What? But you know what Dan Wilson thinks?

This is fine. Yeah, he probably does. Okay. Thank you guys so much for being our therapy. I need it. I need it to yell at the screen. Not at you guys. You guys are awesome.

Chat. You guys are great. If you missed any part of today's episode, you can find it anywhere you get your podcast right after. Day off tomorrow. God, do they need it. Holy, they need it. There's some banged up dudes. Good to get day off for Randy, day off for Julio, day off for JP, day off for Naylor, a full day off for Nayo Henel. You know, he had on the day. Day off for Eugenio. But good to see him starting to hit. So just honestly, just pitch. And this changes a lot.

Just pitch, please. We'll talk to you guys on Friday. I haven't looked at the pitching matchup. I believe it's Brian Wu question mark against whoever the A's are throwing out there. So we'll kind of reevaluate where we are at that point, but you got to have a big homestand. Last word, Chris Crawford. Somebody asked if this is simply Seattle. Yes, it is. And I just have one more thing to say.