Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MARINERS POSTCAST: Seattle Mariners LOSE CLOSE GAME vs Los Angeles Angels

Episode Date: July 26, 2025

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This is the Mariners Postcast. Your instant game reaction for the Seattle Mariners. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Off the top, Christopher Crawford, I have a question for you. Do you want to play our role the way we normally do and have me complaining about the bunting, you complain about the umpire, or do you want to switch? I have something prepared. So let's go.

Okay. We'll play our roles then. Everyone knows how I feel about funding. So I'm just going to lean into that. Everyone knows how you feel about umpires, so you're going to lean into that. Sure. Yeah, this is the marriage. I appreciate the choice real quick, by the way. Yeah.

No, I just wanted to maybe dance to different circles. But no, you want to keep to the brand, so to speak. I assume Ben Williamson is going to be your own song hero too, just because that's what we do. No. Okay. Great. Okay. This is going to be a great.

show then. Mariner's postcast, Anderson Hurst, you're Christopher Crawford, right to my left. I realized I forgot to move my laundry little thing behind me, but it's all good. You guys don't care. We're just here for the content, right? Yeah, great. Thanks. Julio and no one else offensively. Brian Wood was good. I wouldn't say great, but he was good. And then we'll do our unsung hero, rant about, you know, umpires and robots are better and all that stuff. And then I'm going to tell you why Bunting sucks. And then we'll probably get out of here because that was a tough loss, Chris Crawford. Yeah, that's a really frustrating one.

And it's the type of losses that you look back on, right? Especially when you're a team that has such a thin margin of air because of results that you've put up so far, because of the results you put up so far, you have a thin margin for air. And these are the type of games that you look back on and say, how the heck did we lose? that one. How the heck do you lose that one? You finally get such a star performance from a star player, right? You know, that's one of his best games of the year. We'll talk about it, of course. You get good pitching, really good pitching from top to bottom. Yeah. And you lose to a bad Angels baseball team. He lose to a bad Angels baseball team. And, you know, Goldie brought it up that,

like I think he said seven of the last eight losses to Los Angeles have been by one of the right. And, you know, that's, I guess some credits of the angels for fighting through it. And, you know, if I had a vote for manager of the year in the American League, it'd probably be for Ron Washington because this is not a good baseball team. And the fact that they are not in contention, but not the disaster among disasters that they are, I think you deserves a little bit of credit because, like, how many guys on the Angels would you want? How many guys looking at that? Not much, but I will say their resurgence has come since he's left the team. That's fair.

That's fair. So, like, I don't hate Ron Washington either. No. But I think that, you know, there is some residue. And I'm going to talk about a manager. I'm going to talk about a manager. This is a frustrating loss. This is just a really frustrating loss.

rating loss. Really quick. We'll start with the start since we always do. Brian and Wu, what you think of him today? Then we'll get into the other stuff. So after the first inning, I thought it was fantastic. Really after the second inning because he had to bat a little bit in that second inning. And, you know, I'm going to get into this again. Should have only been one run. Should have only been one run because he struck out Nolan Shanwell. And the umpiring today was unacceptable. Not pathetic, not bad, unacceptable. The type of umpiring that you see from people, if you make that mistake, Anders, at your work, there's a chance you lose that your job. If I make that mistake at one of my 16 jobs right now, I have a chance to lose my job. When umpires do it,

no accountability, no accountability whatsoever. So now he gives, he threw a terrible pitch to Joe Adele, right? Then that doubled down the line gives up those two runs. But, and then in the second inning, he battles a little bit. And he did not have his best command. He missed his spot a lot tonight. But the stuff was really good. It's too bad that he didn't have his semblance of his usual command on top of the stuff tonight because he could have had a special start tonight.

Yes. But instead, it's a good one. And, oh, the seventh inning. I know they don't end up scoring a run, but that's two of the worst miss strike three calls that I've ever seen. And it didn't stop that. And I will get into that in the second half of the show. I'll just tell you that right now. It was awful.

It was absolutely awful. But good for Brian Wu for battling through it. By the way, home plate umpire tonight. You know where he's from? Los Angeles. Oh. Washington. And maybe I'm stealing this from Alex Akita.

He joked. He's doing his best to prove that there's no mariner bias tonight because I'm just going to be honest with you. And I'm paying more attention to it maybe. Most of those calls went against. the Mariners. I don't call any strikes that I was like, what the heck? The one exception is, even when he got something right, he got it wrong. The strike out by Brash to Mike Trout, he called that a swinging strike. It wasn't close to a swinging strike. It was right in the heart

of the plate, but he called it a swinging strike instead of a strike. So even when Homeboy was right, he was wrong. It's unacceptable. It's absolutely unacceptable. And there's another thing, I'm just going to save it. There's another thing unacceptable. about what happened tonight. Okay. Let's do one, let's do one more positive. Julio, a great game from him.

Let's kind of ease the nerves a little bit. Terrible game, terrible loss, but Julio looking good. He loves batting in that ballpark, I guess. We used that thumbnail a little too early yesterday. Sure. I should have predicted two homers. You're right.

No, your dog, Chris. Come on, man. No, sure, Dom Chris was off by one day. No. The second home run was, don't get me wrong. It was impressive. You know, it was, it was nice to see him drive that ball. The home run that he hits to get the Mariners on the board, I think is the most impressive home run of Mariners hit this year. This dude, Jose Suriano, had given up five home runs all year

in a hundred and twenty-twenty innings. That's one home run every 24 innings. That's very easy math. He threw a pitch with sync. He also has a very nice 69% strike or ground ball rate. Very nice. That is really impressive. The best in baseball. Sixty nine percent ground ball rate is almost impossible, Anders. Like almost impossible. Jose Suriano's got a chance to be a good one. I hope he gets out of Los Angeles, to be honest with you. Because I want to see him with better development in a organization that knows what they're doing. But that pitch sinking outside or, outside of the strike zone, excuse me, below his knees. To hit that ball out to opposite field in particular is so impressive.

It's so impressive. Now, had a bat at bat in the 10th inning, got a pitch to hit. And you know what was frustrating there? He had two really good takes, really good takes to get ahead in the account. Probably should have taken another one. Probably should have taken another pitch. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, that's the thing.

But ahead 2-0, you should be looking for. for a little bit better pitch to drive there. We'll talk about why that doesn't get a run home, I'm sure, in a second with Anders. And, but I was really impressed with those two homers, man. That is awesome to see on a night where the offense stunk out loud. And credit to Jose Soriano too, man. Good pitcher.

Good pitcher. Really good pitcher. I'd love to see what Seattle could do with that dude. I think you could get him to start missing more bats with Seattle. He kind of reminds me of Brandon Webb a little bit, a guy who was a really good sinkerball pitcher for Arizona. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.

But really nice to see a strong game, followed by a strong game that he had the previous night with the Homer as well. So that was cool to see. All right. As I realized that, I don't have the correct overlay. So let me, I want to ask about a little bit, not as important part that we might not get to later in the game, but or later in the stream here.

What were your thoughts on having the infield in in the bottom of the 10th inning? And Ben Williamson going home instead of going for the double play. Oh, I was fine with that. Yeah, I think you've got to get that out. You've got to get that out. And I do have a criticism of that inning as well. And why don't we do our ad rate and then we can get into that.

I was going to do that, but I have to download a couple things. Oh, that's okay. So I'll talk about some stuff real quick. Yeah, great. Go ahead. You want to do your umpire rant right now? I'm going to do my umpire rant right now because it's not a rant about the umpire, actually. It's a rant about, I'm just going to give you my unsung hero right now.

It's not an unsung hero. It's an unsung villain. It's Dan Wilson because I'm sick and tired and, ooh, I'm going to do my best not to swear here, Anders. Get the seven second button ready. I'm ready. I accept I don't have it. Yeah, that's the thing. Dan Wilson.

is a coward. Dan Wilson has no waivos whatsoever. Dan Wilson is terrified of being ejected. And this is unacceptable. For him to not get ejected after that second missed strike call is unacceptable. And we talked a lot about Scott Service on Molly Wat Monday being a guy who, you know, if you compare him to Lou Pennell. who's, you know, fire and brimstone and bases were afraid of this guy because he was going to throw him to Timbuktu. And you have Lloyd McHetlandon was another fiery guy, terrible manager. But like, he was a guy who you could tell was backing up his players. And I want to make this abundantly clear. I'm not in the clubhouse.

I don't know what Dan Wilson is saying behind the scenes. But I can judge what's happening right then and there. And Dan Wilson didn't back up his pitcher. Dan Wilson didn't back up his team tonight. And I think it hurt because. the reason umpires get ejected and yell, right? It's not because they want to say their peace and they think they're going to change their mind. No, that's never happened.

It'll never happen. No one has ever argued with an umpire so much that they go, you know what? You're right. I'll change it. I got it wrong. I didn't want to admit it. No, that's not what they're doing. What they're doing is they're implanting it in their head, implanting in their head that I have

to get better, that I have to call that pitch a strike the next time. Didn't do that. Didn't do that. He gave him a mean mug that you usually see in Minnesota from a guy who is managing a little league team and just chilling. That's unacceptable to me. It is unacceptable to me that Dan Wilson didn't back up Brian Wu there. It's unacceptable that he didn't back up Casey Legamino when he had a perfect pitch down there as well. It's unacceptable that he didn't bark in him for the Nolan Shanwell pitch today.

So no, I'm not excusing the umpire for being terrible at his job. he was terrible at his job. But the fact that Dan Wilson didn't get in this dude's face and didn't back up his players, it pisses me off. It makes me really upset. And it just, it's, I'm trying not to go too far here, but I will tell you this right now. If I was a general manager of a baseball team, I would be in Dan Wilson's office tomorrow saying, why weren't you be, why weren't you upset?

Why weren't you talking to the empire? What do the player, and I would be talking to players and saying, hey, how's Dan around these guys? How much do you feel backed up today? Because this is the type of thing that can lead to players getting really upset. If I was Brian Wu, and you saw Brian Wu in the dugout, he looked mad. Well, and that's the big thing for me is like, it's fine if your player doesn't show a ton of emotions. Like, all right, I'm not going to blow this instance out of proportion. He was pissed after that happened.

Curious. Like, that's the thing where it's like, you've got to have some sort of pulse on what's going on here. Right. That's a great way to put it. I completely agree with you. It's like, and it's not even to like for me that like the umpire is going to be bad. The guy's not like you said, not going to change that. Right.

You've got to show your players that this is, all right, us against the world. Let's bleeping go. Almost did it myself. Uh, so it's like, guys. And you know what it screams? A guy who's never been a manager before. Yeah. exactly what he is. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great call. Can I can I retract something I said real

quick? I called Dan Wilson a coward. I'm not going to call Dan Wilson a coward. Here's what I'll say. This was a cowardice act. This was a cowardice act. Okay. Because it just, you should have put yourself on the line here, right? Like, because if Brian Wu gets upset and yells at an umpire, you know what's going to happen? He's going to eject it or he's going to get suspended. Yeah. Dan Wilson is not going to get suspended. Unless Dan Wilson does something uncouth, you know, like a spitting incident, a shoving incident, a horrible slur or something along those lines, hateful speech. Dan Wilson's not going to do that because Dan Wilson's not a bad enough guy to do something like that.

But it's unacceptable to me that Dan Wilson didn't show more fire and brimstone because, and if you just want to say, what would it change? I don't know. It sure didn't help. It sure didn't help because I saw him miss the same freaking calls all night long. And I want my manager to be up in that dude's grill telling him that it is unacceptable and backing up my players, backing them up so that he doesn't make these same mistakes again. And again, we are not excusing Mike Muczynski tonight. He was freaking garbage.

Absolute garbage. But Dan Wilson is my unsung villain because he, was complacent. He was complacent. And you know what complacency often is, Anders? It's complicit. Sometimes when you're complacent, you're complicit. So the real, and like I played for multiple different types of coaches before. I was a soccer player who played through my college. You never saw me play. So you can't really say that. Dang good one. All right. All right. I played in college. So I played with a lot of coaches, right? I understand the vibe of a coach that, you know, he's going to be pretty low-key.

And then the moments where he does explode, it makes that even more impactful, right? But you have to choose those moments carefully. You're not just going to be a guy that explodes 24-7, like a Lou Penella, right? And that's something that I think Scott Service actually did really well. Like when he chose his moments to get ticked off, whether it was at a player or at an umpire. That was something that had an impact. It's like, whoa, I don't normally see him. What's going on here?

That's a great point. That's a great point. And you know what? we also saw that sometimes with interviews, right? Like Scott Service, in my personal opinion, you remember it well when he was asked about how long is a sample size, right? How long? And you know what?

When he got mad about that, the first thing you think is, oh, he's like defending himself, right? No, he's defending his players. He's defending the guys in the clubhouse. Yes. Is it a terrible answer? In my personal opinion, yeah, it is. And is it talking down to media?

Yes, it's talking down to fans. Yes, but he's defending his players while doing that. And he shouldn't care what the media thinks about him. Now, the amount of burner accounts Scott Service had tells you that he did care about the media. I thought I would hide that forever. No, I'm not going to. Scott Service had burners, buddies, burners. Yeah.

But I always felt like Scott Service had his players back. And there have been times this year that I did not feel that way from Dan Wilson. Yeah, major questions regarding his lack of, I don't want to say lack of passion. I don't think that's true. It's just a lack of awareness. And like we said, pulse. Like, you've got to know when to go. And, like, that's the whole point of being a manager.

Like, there's baseball managers get kind of put in a bad spot because I think, and I think rightly so, probably have the least effect on the outcome of any other head coach or manager in any other major American sport. This is the one time or the one of the major jobs that you have. You choose your bullpen arms and they come out. Some managers are going to do that, by the way. Right. But you get fired up when you're supposed to get fired up and keep a pulse on the clubhouse. And Dan Wilson, to this point, I've had major questions on. I'm even getting pushing farther to the point where it's like, dude, you need to figure it out. Like what's going on here. Well said. Well said. All right. We got that. Really well said. Really well said.

Yeah, absolutely. Let me fire it right back at you because you're the one that started this whole conversation. I honestly didn't even think about that. I wasn't going to go in that direction, but you kind of put that on my head and I completely agree. So well done by Christopher Crawford. On that, you get all the credit. Let's talk about game time. Okay. Have you ever decided at the last minute to head to the ballgame with friends or family? Maybe it's game day and you suddenly realize you want to be in the stands to watch your manager not get tossed. That's exactly where game time comes in. It's the easiest way to grab last minute tickets without the stress. With the money you save on tickets, you can splurge on food, drinks, merch, or even invite a bigger group to come with you, sit closer to the game and tell the manager to get up in the umpire's grill. Game time makes it possible. Game time makes buying tickets fast and simple.

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Not even in the same sport, by the way. So just going to say that right now. I'm not trying to equate my experience to any sort of major league baseball. There's lots of reasons to criticize Anders, okay? But this is not one of them, okay? Like, come on. Oh, man. All right. Let's talk a little bit about more of the in-game stuff that went on here. Brian Wu going out in the seventh inning after, you know, so this is before the strike three

call and everything that happened. Were you surprised at Scott, or Scott, or is it? For Dan Wilson, for letting him pitch in the seventh after that one. No, and I actually liked that decision, right? I liked that he got that chance because he was so effective in those middle innings. I like that he got that opportunity and he should have been able to keep pitching, right? Because there was strike three and strike four on that better that he walks. And then I will say, really nice job by the bullpen. Really nice job by the bullpen, right? Like,

nice job by Bizarro, nice job by Brasch, nice job by Andres Munoz. I feel like I'm missing someone in between. Like I mean after that, but yeah. Yeah. So I thought that the bullpen did a very nice job tonight. I didn't really have any issues, any issues with game decisions until the top of the 10th and the bottom of the 10th. So let's just get into the bunt, right? Yeah. So I hated that decision. And I think all sacrifice buntz, it's a terrible decision to give up out. Terrible. Where it's a really bad decision is when the guy can't throw strikes and you have one of the most patient hitters in baseball at the plate. It's the top of your freaking order. If you have to have your lead off hitter bunt he shouldn't be your leadoff hitter top of the order hitter and i've seen some

people criticize the ben williamson base running on that bunt wholeheartedly disagree man like he has to be ready to get back there if he gets doubled up on that play it's a disaster an absolute disaster and the other reason why you don't bet j p crawford clearly jp crawford's a crappy Bunter, right? That's, that's, that was an atrocious bunt. Atrocious. So it was process sucking, you know what, and then it was result also sucking that you know what. And I'm not going with the you know what that you think of there. I'm going the other way around. Okay. It's just, it was a bad decision. It was a really bad decision. And, you know, Cal Raleigh struggled today. Let's, let's, let's make that abundantly clear too. You got to foul that pitch off that it's to strike three.

Like, you've got to at least foul that thing off. You. You can't take 99 borderline middle, middle, right? It wasn't a horrible pitch. There was a decent amount of movement to it. Can't strike out there. Cannot strike out there. And the rest of the offense wasn't good. Congress to Josh Naylor on his first hit.

That's cool. You know, he didn't play a great game outside of that. Three hours of sleep, no. Three hours of sleep, trying to do too much, I'm sure. It looked like he wanted to jump on that first pitch that he got in his first bit bat. And, you know, it's fine. I still love this trade.

We're not going to poo-poo it too much. He sucks after one game. We never seen a trade-in-for-him. What are we going to do? Bring back Rowdy-Tiles. I'm going to let you talk about the bun. But I do want to talk about the 10th inning, right? Because the bottom of the 10th inning,

I did not have an issue with Ben Williamson and the play he made. Okay. My issue honestly is with first and second and two out, that ball, I'm not saying Cole Young has to. make that play, right? It's a diving play. You got to knock it down. Keep it in the field. You got to get a second base. He's not at third. He's not a third. You got to keep that ball in the field. And what your intent should be there is not making the play to get the out. Your play should be like a goaltender smothering the puck. That's what I have another out. Survive another

batter. Yeah. And you know, I'm not saying that it was right in front of him or anything close. He has to make the running play. You got to knock that down. You've got to keep it in front of you. Cole Young's had some iffy lately. Cole Young has had some iffy. And I love what I've seen for the most part, but there are some reminders every once in a while that he's a rookie. I really want my second baseman to make that play. Yeah, I'm with you.

I'm with you. I think, well said, you don't have to get the out. You just have to survive another batter, right? Make sure that the guy doesn't score from third base or second base. Because people are kind of bagging on leg. I thought he pitched fine. He pitched fine. There was no hard contact.

There was no, like, you know, he gives up the long drive to long-ish drive to Julio, who makes a pretty good throw. If it's online, I still don't think they get him, to be honest with you. But, you know, maybe if it's a perfect throw, they get the guy at third base. But, like, that's not his fault. That's, that's zombie runners fault. I still hate this freaking rule, by the way. I just hate it.

I hate it. I hate it. But the Mariners had their chance with the zombie runners, too. So that's not the reason they lost. It's just not something I like. But I thought, like, I mean, it pitched fine. He did a fine job. He gives up the head is a little weak ground ball.

I almost said the other word with it. It was not a, it was not a poor job by him whatsoever. And again, the big thing here is, yes, terrible imparring, yes, some questionable decisions. You score two runs. You score all of two runs and they're both solo homers, right? That's just not good enough. That's just not a good enough offensive day. And it's all from one person.

It's all for one person. Literally, literally, Julio Rodriguez was your offense today. Yes. Yeah. I thought I saw a stat where until extra innings, neither team had a at-bat with runners in scoring position. That doesn't surprise me. Since the fourth inning.

It's like no one got on base today. That's crazy. By the way, I know we're a Mariners channel. Nick Kurtz came this close to a five-homer game today. And man, oh, man, I was rooting for it, especially against the. the Astros. So thank you, athletics. You've helped us out quite a bit, winning those two games. But if somebody hits five homers, I'm going to bring it up. Yeah. Well, it's a mixed opportunity. Someone went six for six with four home runs and against

the Astros and you can't figure this game out. Are you freaking kidding me? I know. I know. Just the most Mariners thing ever. All right. Well, I know a lot of people are upset in the chat. I said it at me for bringing up my college experience, yada, yada, yada. It's a tough game. I get it. Whatever. It's just it is what it is. Guys, I play OTP, and it makes me just as experienced as Dan Wilson.

Like, if I play MLB, the show, I have just, I'm just taking it off of Anders. Ender's plate. What I, what I do in MLB, the show is the exact same knowledge. Come on, guys. We love you. We do love you. I agree. I didn't know if there's more to that.

Sorry. No. All right. We'll talk to guys tomorrow. A nice. what is it, 638 once again, I believe. For the first pitch for your Seattle Mariners, we got. Tyler Anderson against George Kirby.

George Kirby gets- Former Mariner legend, Tyler Anderson against current mariner legend, George Kirby. Got a win. If you remember the last time, George Kirby pitched in this stadium. He did pretty okay. Yeah, 14-strikos, I think that'll do. Let's make it a day game to make the shadows difficult again. Let's go ahead and put that game instead of 638.

Let's make it at 1 o'clock. All right. I appreciate you all coming and hanging out with us. I know it's been therapeutic. I needed to get some stuff off by chest. I know Chris need to get some stuff off his chest. So thank you guys so much. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow.