Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Pre-Spring Positional Outlook: The Infield
Episode Date: February 4, 2020In part two of this four part series, D.C. Lundberg talks about the state of the Mariners' infield prior to Spring Training, and what it may look like as the regular season commences. Learn more about... your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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I hope you liked yesterday's look at the outfield.
Today we're going to look at the infield.
But before we do that, a couple of roster moves to report.
As I said on yesterday morning's program,
the Mariners were interested in bringing in an outfielder
with some majorly experienced because of Mitch Hanaker's injury.
And while they did not do that,
it was announced about six hours after the program was published
that they claimed former Reds prospect Jose Siri off waivers.
Siri had been DFAed by the Reds after they signed Nick Castellanos as a free agent.
Siri was at one time one of the better prospects in the Reds system.
He's considered a very good defensive player and also looked like he was going to hit
until he severely injured his thumb a couple years ago.
His offensive numbers took a dive at that point and the Reds were ready to give up on him.
He is on the Mariners 40-man roster and will be in Major League Training Camp.
To make room on said 40-man roster for Siri, the Mariner's designated pitcher
Matt Festa for assignment.
Thesta had spent parts of the last two seasons at the Major League level.
I think that's a bit of a shame.
I liked Festa, and I'm sure someone will claim him.
I hope he goes on to have a successful career.
In addition, it was announced yesterday that Gonzaga alum, Marco Gonzalez,
has been signed to a contract extension.
I will talk more about that when I break down the pitching staff on Thursday's show.
But let's get into the infield.
We'll start at first base, and I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen here.
The Mariners did sign Evan White to a major league contract during the offseason,
despite him never playing above double A ball.
He did hit 293 at Arkansas last season, 18 home runs, in 265 at bats.
Good numbers for sure, and there are players who can make the jump from AA to the bigs.
Juan Soto is the most obvious example, but it's a risk.
I'd also like to see White try to cut down on a strikeouts and become a little more discerning at the plate
based on his double A stats from last season.
He is considered an excellent defender and a probable future gold glover,
which is an obvious upgrade over Daniel Vogelback.
Speaking of Vogelback, while he has been working on his defense, it's just not there.
He's not very mobile and is really nothing more than a DH.
And as a DH, you need to hit, which is something he did for, at least part of last season.
He was incredibly streaky.
He had a very good April, but a pretty bad May, in OK June, and was 10th,
terrible from there on out. At the All-Star break, he was hitting at 238 with 21 home runs.
After the break, 162 with nine home runs. His strikeout rate went up and as walk rate went down.
A lethal combination. I like Voguey. He's an old school masher, but he's got to gain some consistency at the plate.
He's always had a really good eye and the Mariners have been working with him to try to be more aggressive.
He's almost been too passive at the plate, working himself into some tough counts, and he's had to try to hit some very tough pitches, which he's not able to do.
He's going to strike out, I get that, but your DH needs to hit better than 208 for his season, which is what he did last year.
His career major league average is only 205.
Again, I like Vogue.
I root for him.
He's a likable guy.
He works his tail off.
He's got the right attitude.
And he had my favorite quote of all last season.
Prior to the All-Star game, he said, I'm not analytic at all,
which is refreshing in this era of overthinking and over-analyzing everything.
Austin Nola also saw significant time at first base for the M's last season.
We'll talk more about him in the second half of the program.
Moving over to second base, you've got Prospect Shed Long and veteran D. Gordon.
Going into spring trading, I think the two of them will kind of split time at second base,
probably going into the season as well.
They're both left-handed hitters,
and Dee Gordon's career numbers against right-handed and left-handed pitching are virtually identical.
So a platoon situation really doesn't make sense.
As the season progresses, I think Long will start to see more playing time there.
Gordon can also play shortstop, and Long can play all over the place.
Long mostly played second in the minors, but he's also long time at third base, left field shortstop,
and he was a catcher's first season and a half.
The Mariners want him to focus on second base and develop there instead of developing into a utility
player, and I highly suspect his days behind the dish are over.
Beginning this season, he will be known as Shed Long Jr.
And we'll switch from uniform number 39 to his own choice, number four.
D. Gordon is in the last year of his contract.
He's got a team option for 2021, but I'll eat my left shoe if the Mariners pick that one up.
If he has a good first half of the season, I would not be surprised in the slightest to see him
traded by the deadline.
The Mariners would likely have to remain on the hook for a large portion of a salary,
but I'm okay with that.
I'd rather have that happen and get a low-level prospect or a young non-prospect
than to see him walk away at the end of the season and get nothing in return.
Wow, that took a little longer than I thought it was going to.
It's already time for a break.
We'll talk about shortstop and third base and the bench in the second half of the program.
Before any of that takes place, Mariners Trivia.
Which Mariner hitter holds the franchise single-state?
season record for strikeouts.
Who struck out the most in the season?
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This is the second half of Locked-on Mariners, hosted by me, D.C. Lunberg.
Trivia question, I asked before the break,
which Mariner holds the single-season record for strikeouts?
The answer, believe it or not, is Mike Cameron, who struck out 176 times in 2002.
Not far behind is who I thought the answer was going to be.
Jay Buehner, who struck out 175 times in 1997.
Incidentally, Jim Presley is third with 172 in 1986.
Now time to talk about the left side of the infield, and we'll start at shortstop.
J.P. Crawford is going to be your shortstop, and man, is he fun to watch play defense.
He made the play of the Mariners season last year.
I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about.
It was the one where he was running to the hole and threw across his body midair.
I do not know how he didn't wrench his back on that play.
That was one of the best plays I've ever seen an infielder make.
His range is above average at short and his glove is statistically exactly league average,
which was an improvement from his 2018 season in Philadelphia.
He's going to get better.
And if he develops as I think he can, he will be the anchor of that,
infield for a long time.
Among the acquisitions Jerry Depoto
made last offseason in that fire
sale, Crawford is my favorite.
He is fun. Offensively,
he needs to gain some consistency
and he really faded down the stretch.
As he gains experience
and plays more full seasons, I suspect
that he will. However, he's
got a nasty platoon split.
He hit 95 points
worse against left-handed pitching
than he did against righties.
That is something he can work on. He just
turn 25, so hopefully he can turn that around. I'd also like to see him walk a bit more and cut down
on his strikeouts, which is beginning to be a recurring theme, but then again, I could say that about
75% of the American League. Third base is kind of an interesting situation. Kyle Seeger's there,
and he's had a couple of down years, some of which can be attributed to injuries, some of which
can be attributed to trying to bulk up a bit too much. He shed some muscle weight last season in an effort
to be more loose at the plate and more mobile at third base.
And it kind of worked.
He had the injury at the beginning of the season, which certainly affected him,
and he played better in the second half.
He hit 323 with a 1.166 OPS in August.
Those are great numbers, but followed that up with a 202 batting average in September.
He's 32 now.
His days of hitting in the 260s and 270s are over.
He's not the defensive third baseman he once was.
I thought this guy was going to be a preemptive.
he'll all-star when I first saw him, but he's just kind of a marginal major leaguer at this point.
It's kind of sad to watch.
I hope he can bounce back.
He's not going to, like I said, he's not going to hit 260, 270 anymore.
If he breaks 250, he'll be happy.
There were also some rumblings about him also being traded.
He's got two years left on his contract, so it's kind of a different situation than
D. Gordon, who just has this one.
But like Gordon, if Seeger is traded, they're going to have to eat a lot of that salary.
But again, I'm fine with that.
The Mariners did that in the Edwin Encarnacion deal.
They did that to get rid of Robinson Canoe.
So it's not like Jerry Depoto isn't willing to do that.
The Mariners really don't have a major league ready prospect to take over the hot corner.
I suppose they could move shed long over there and tried Donnie Walton at second base,
but I really don't see that happening.
They signed Patrick Wisdom to a contractor over the off season,
who figures to share time at third base with Seeger.
He can play both corner infield spots and started playing the corner outfield
spots at the AAA level last season also to try to make him more versatile, though as defensive
numbers in the outfield do not look promising at all. Wisdom is a right-handed hitter who could
start against lefties, but Seeger, a left-handed hitter, has a really weird platoon split in
that he hits much better against lefties than he does righties. The Mariners' best third
baseman coming up through the farm system is Joe Rizzo, who turns 22 at the end of March.
He's probably a couple years away from making the major league.
and he was not invited to spring training.
Last season, he hit 295 at Advanced A. Modesto.
He hit 10 home runs and 30 doubles.
However, he is statistically very poor defensively.
And when I say very poor, we're talking Russ Davis territory.
In fact, his numbers are actually worse than Davises.
Very quickly going over the rest of the players who will play infield in spring training since I am running out of time.
Dylan Moore is a virtual lock to make the team.
He can play second, third short.
He can play first base, and he can also play in the outfield.
Mariners also have Tim Lopes, very similar situation to Dylan Moore.
He can play all over the place, also plays the outfield.
Donnie Walton looks like he'll begin the year in the minors, I think.
He's a middle infielder.
His arm definitely plays better at second base than it does shortstop.
Defensive specialist makes some contact.
Good type of player to have on your team.
I think he projects more of a bench player than he does a starter.
The other infielder the Mariners have on the 40-man roster is,
Hamardy, who made his major league debut last season with the Mets, did not play very much.
Spend most of the year in AA Binghampton or Binghampton, as I like to say.
259 average there.
He did have a 310 average in AAA, but in only 42 at bats.
Haggurty can play second base, third base, and a little bit of outfield.
Mariners still have Austin Nola, who will be their backup catcher,
but he can also play all four infield positions, played a lot at first base last year,
can play second, short, and third as well.
The infielders, the Mariners, have invited to spring training as non-roster invitees are
Jordan Cowan, Alan Hanson, Connor Hoover, and Jose Marmalajos.
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