Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Reportedly Sign RHP Trevor Gott
Episode Date: November 29, 2022The Seattle Mariners have made another MLB addition, this time signing Trevor Gott to a one-year deal, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. The move has many fans confused, but Colby and Ty breakdown wh...at Seattle sees in Gott, how he fits the roster, why you should trust Jerry Dipoto and company to build a bullpen and if the Mariners will need to make additional moves in their bullpen. All of that and more on this bonus episode of Locked on Mariners!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/SimpliSafeWith Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnMLB to learn more.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Mariners, yes, have reportedly signed veteran right-handed reliever Trevor got to a major league contract per Ken Rosenthal.
And to be honest, this typically wouldn't be a signing.
we do an emergency show for, but we were around.
So we're going to do a quick little reaction here.
So Colby, what's your first reaction?
So the Mariners landing Trevor Gott reportedly, reportedly.
It hasn't been officially announced by the team.
We should mention.
Yes.
Initial reaction is this is amazing content because we can do so much with his last name.
True.
Yeah, it's a podcaster slash, you know, writer.
dream, I suppose, to have such an easily, uh, easily punnable name. So, yeah, that's the first
reaction, um, you know, decided obviously like I do every time the mayor's acquire somebody I'm not
overly familiar with, uh, to do some research and, um, found some interesting things that, uh,
leave me to believe that, uh, this isn't a, uh, it's not just a shot in the dark on a guy.
I think there's some stuff here that might explain why the marries took the shot they did.
And, you know, if it doesn't work out, I'm going to assume Gott is only going to make, you know, a million bucks, a million five, something like that.
Well, we don't have exact details yet.
But I have to assume it's a one-year deal.
And I would assume that it's going to be two million bucks or less.
So it's really not that huge of a deal.
If it doesn't work out, you just DFAM and move on.
But obviously, you know, when the Mariners acquire a pitcher, you have to take notice.
because they've been really good in this avenue.
Particularly a reliever.
So let's,
before we get down into the nitty gritty,
let's just kind of give a little bit of a background here on God.
So he's 30 years old,
made his major league debut for the Angels back in 2015.
He's since bounced around to the nationals,
then the Giants,
and eventually the brewers,
the brewers just recently non-tendered him
at the non-tender deadline.
He threw 45 and two-thirds,
innings for the brewers this past season.
867 Ks per 9, 236 walks per 9, 414ERA, 294XERA, 445 FIP and a 4 or sorry, a 383 XFIP.
And the thing that should really be noted here, and I'm sure you've found this in your
little bit of research as well, is that.
So Gott had a really weird 2020 season.
ended up sticking with the Giants in 2021, but did not make the major league roster at all.
He didn't get hurt as far as I can tell.
Maybe I'm wrong on that.
But as far as I can tell, he did not get hurt.
He was just in the minors the entire year.
Ended up signing with the Brewers, made their major league roster and stuck there.
And when he came back in 2022 with the Brewers, he started throwing his cutter a lot more.
And his cutter was arguably, well, I mean, it was his most used pitch.
and it was arguably his best pitch.
Opponents were hitting 169 off of it
with a 197 expected batting average.
They were slugging 356,
but the expected slug on that as well was a,
was just 317.
And he was generating almost 30% whiffs with that pitch.
And we've talked about it, Colby,
the meme with the Mariners,
pitchers who throw cutters,
relievers who throw cutters.
We talked about Matt Brasges
now suddenly learning a cutter.
So clearly the Mariners,
as they always do,
have seen something here
that suggests there's been a change
and I assume that they're just looking
to maybe improve upon that
even more so with that cut it right?
Yeah, I think so.
You trust Pete Woodworth.
You trust the analytics department
here. They clearly see something
in the shape of the pitch that they like.
It's worth noting that
although he only threw it 10% of the time
the curveball was actually
a pretty good pitch for him as well.
He generated 30%
whiffs on the curveball and opponents
hit 154 against it.
In fact, they also slugged 154.
So again, he only threw it 79 times.
He was a cutter, four-seem sinker guy.
The sinker was the pitch that was the big issue for him.
It was not good whatsoever.
And typically what the mirrors do in that case is they just have the guy shelved the pitch
that doesn't work.
But when you look at what Trevor got did last year, you know, it's not like eye-popping.
Like you mentioned, the 414 ERA, but he did have a 294.
XERA, which is pretty interesting.
Also, a 23.7% K rate, major league average is about 22%.
So a little bit above average there.
Perhaps the biggest difference forgot is that he seemed to find some semblance of control,
general ability to throw strikes.
Because his walk percentage last year was 6.5%.
Major league averages 8.4.
So he threw enough strikes last year.
with the cutter that it wasn't a super big issue.
We'll see what the Mariners like about him.
Interestingly enough, got in 2022,
good against righties, not good against lefties.
So he's not a, you know,
a lefty specialist or by any stretch.
Right-handed pitching in 2022 got posted a 9.64K per 9 and just a 1.29 based on ball for 9.
you know, righties, you know, really struggle to square up the ball against them.
It just 0.96 home runs per 9, 27% K rate, just say 3.6% rate.
So it's entirely possible what the Mariners think they have found is maybe a way to get lefties out.
Or they plan on using him in kind of a similar way that they use Penn Murphy,
where if there's two righties and a lefty, they're okay going to God knowing that they have a good chance to get out the two righties.
So, yeah, I think God's a middle guy.
I don't think this is a high leverage arm.
But again, when the Mariners sign somebody and when they,
I don't want to say to a surprising major league deal,
but I bet there were a lot of teams out there that thought God could be had for a minor league deal.
But when the Mariners do this, we have to take notice because they're very good at it.
Yeah, I want to talk more about that in just a moment.
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So Colby, you just said it, that, you know, whenever the Mariners make an addition like this,
especially a major league signing, I think that's probably the biggest piece of news here with this signing,
the reported signing, that is, that it is a major league contract.
So expand on that a little bit more.
Why should we all pay attention to deals like this when they are made by the Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander regime?
that's a long track record of success.
Jerry has been consistently good at building bullpins.
This goes back to his days in Anaheim.
He's got an eye for bullpen talent.
Of course, Jerry, you know, was a major league reliever.
So maybe that has something to do with it.
Maybe it doesn't.
I don't know.
But he trusts himself and he trust his team in the front office to identify arms
that they think can really, they can help, essentially, right?
And they did it with Paul Seawald.
They did it with all.
Austin Adams. They've done it with Connor Sazzik. I mean, pick a guy.
Jerry DePoto is the one that pulled the trigger on Edwin Diaz converting to the bullpen.
Yep. You know, he traded for Andres Munoz and gave him an extension before, you know,
Andres Munoz was Andres Munoz.
Found Matt Brash. And he got Matt Brash because he signed Taylor Williams.
So, you know, Jerry is very good at this. And the Mariners Front Office is very good at this.
developing finding talent and developing it and it feels weird to say you develop a 30 year old
but when it comes to relief arms the mariners have done just that typically they do it by
shelving a pitch or asking a pitcher to change where he throws his pitches or or you know
having them focus on what their best pitch is what they do better than what they don't it's very
peak carol like where we don't focus on the negative we try and find what the guy does well and
we tell him to do that and again when you look at what
what they got out of Drew Steckenrider for a year,
what they got out of Paul Seewald for a couple years now.
And you really just pick a name.
Honestly,
the more hype the reliever is,
typically the worst he is for the Mariners.
Like a Radha Costa.
Yeah.
So it's just one of those things.
Also,
by the way,
Kendall Graven,
another guy that they threw in the bullpen.
So I just,
you know,
when the Mariners do this,
you have to pay attention
because their track record is too long to ignore it.
You know,
every year they seemingly find these guys,
at Penn Murphy.
Like we just go,
Eric Swanson,
like we can just go on and on.
But the Mariners find these guys,
they develop them,
they typically get the most out of them.
And if they don't,
they're not going to wait around to pull the trigger,
right?
If they don't think it's going to work,
they'll just move on.
Jerry and Justin,
in particular Jerry,
since he has a longer track record,
are very good at building bullpins.
And they're very good at identifying players
that they think their player development system can help.
So because of that, when they sign any pitcher to a major league, even somebody who, you know, on the surface, the numbers of Trevor Gott look mediocre, right?
You have to pay attention and you have to ask why because they're not just randomly, you know, firing into the darkness of the night.
There is something about Trevor Gott they like.
We've talked about a few reasons.
The cutter kind of the first year he started to use it.
it's also worth noting that his
fastball velocity was way down this year so maybe
they think it can go back up
but that also might just be because he was
throwing the cutter more than the foreseamer
fun note real fast about
Trevor got this is
the second time Jerry DePoto has acquired him
so yeah
Jerry is a fan he believes in something there
he came over in the Houston
Street deal that Jerry DePoto made
I believe
no that was that was his aggregate deal
never mind but he did come over in the
Houston Street deal. Another reliever that Jerry went out and got and worked out very well for the
Angels. So Jerry's good at this. Just straight up. Yep. So God's best season was 2019.
He threw 52 and two-thirds endings for the Giants. Sorry, did I say 2015, 2019. I'm confused.
He's a 2019. Okay, I said 2019. Okay, never mind. But yeah, 52 and two-thirds zonings pitch. 9-7-4.
Ks per 9, 291 walks per 9, 444 ERA, 394 XERA, 312 FIP.
That's the big number there.
That was a career best for him.
And yeah, so he was worth 1F4 flat that season.
So that's the best that he's been, which is not like amazing, right?
Like you said, though, at the end of the day, he's probably going to be a middle guy.
And if the Mariners hit on him and it seems like, you know, there's a lot.
obviously a pretty different profile from 2019 now with the cutter being a more prominent
pinch of his.
But if they've seen something here that works, then I mean, you kind of just have to trust
it because they've built enough of that reputation.
And they've built enough cred here now at this point that, you know, you should trust them
on this to build these guys up and move forward with them.
So we'll see, you know, what got can become, if anything.
And, you know, you mentioned it earlier too.
that if got's just whatever, right, if he passed, like, it's probably only going to be a million bucks,
maybe a million five, really, for a guy that was just recently non-tendered.
And was, I'm going to assume was probably getting most of his attention on minor league contracts
rather than major league contracts.
So, you know, we'll see what it is.
And we'll see if the mayor is right.
Most of the time they are.
So we'll talk more about what they could do next in the bullpen, if any,
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So do you think this is it in terms of what the Mariners do in the bullpen?
like in terms of like the kind of reliever they add or do you think there's still a possibility
that you could add someone better than Trevor got to this unit?
I think they are absolutely going to add more than Trevor got.
You know, he's he's a middle guy.
We talked about even at his best.
He's a middle guy.
I think the Mariners looked at Trevor Gott and here's your comparison for you.
I think his role is going to be similar to that.
of Nick Vincent from a few years ago.
You know, just kind of, you know, pitch the six, the seventh.
If you absolutely need them to pitch the ninth and it's the bottom of the order and you're
up by three and you don't want to use Munoz or Brash or whatever, fine, whatever, he can do
it.
You're just a guy who's going to fill in in a couple of roles.
I mean, that's really all he is.
He can't be the only guy you add.
You still need the two, like, I would say high-ish leverage guys.
You have to replace Eric Swanson still.
God is not that guy.
unless the Mariners, you know, think they have something that that nobody else has been able to get out of them.
So, yeah, they're going to, they're going to add to the bullpen.
I think this is a, I think this is, it just a raise the, the floor type of move here in the bullpen.
It adds a little bit.
You know, we still don't know, you know, I mean, it's a little bit of insurance of Diego Castillo, too.
So, uh, I think they're absolutely going to add.
I really don't, uh, foresee this as, as being one of, I think this is a move.
that like we forget about in a few months because they've added three more significant players
to their 26-man roster. And we're like, oh, yeah, they also got Trevor God a few months ago.
So no, they're going to add more. There's no question about it. Again, they may not be names, right?
They may just be guys that we vaguely heard of like Trevor got, but they're going to add more arms
to this bullpen. And like I said, whether we've heard of them or not or whether we know that
their high leverage guys are not.
Again, you have to trust the process, particularly in the bullpen.
If you're not going to trust Jerry anywhere but one spot, trust him in the bullpen,
that he knows what he's doing out there.
They're going to add more.
I think they're going to add at least one more guy to actually replace the role of Eric
Swanson.
But I think two more relievers is something they're going to look at.
And again, they might not be traditional relievers.
Maybe it's, they go get an Eric Swanson replacement.
And then they go sign Drew Smiley.
and he's just kind of first year bullpen guy
who pitches really well.
So we'll see what they do,
but they're going to add more.
Yeah, and like we talked about, right?
Like, you know,
or on the other show that we did today for our mailbag,
they have guys in the minor leagues coming up as well
that we think could be legitimate pieces of this bullpen moving forward
like an Isaiah Campbell,
like a Bryce Miller potentially,
like a Prolander Barrella.
So there's also options that are coming up there as well.
So, you know, I think the Mariners are in,
a pretty good spot even with the loss of eric swanson to build this bullpen back up and
you know again they've earned the benefit of the doubt at this point and so maybe you know someone
like trevor got actually you know maybe he is the eric swanson replacement maybe they do actually
maybe they have actually found something then trevor got so you know who knows um and again it's just
whenever they make a move like this doesn't matter what the name is you got to pay attention to it
you just have to so you know when this came across when i saw this on our uh on our uh on
on my timeline like 20 or so minutes ago i was like oh okay cool so clearly like they found
something there right and that's what the reaction should be so it's going to be really interesting
to see how that plays out we'll get to see him in spring training all that and uh and uh see see
where he's at and see what that cutter looks like and see what else they might be experimenting with
with him uh so tomorrow we're going to be talking about the uh the brandon low rumors we're going to be
talking about the report today from john morosey that the mariners are in on
Michael Conforto.
We're also going to talk about this report from Ryan Divish that said the Mariners nearly
completed a three-team deal with the Yankees and Phillies that would have sent Marco Gonzalez to the Phillies and Joey Gallo to the Mariners.
So we'll talk a little bit about that.
And if that means that the Mariners could be interested in Gallo this offseason.
But there was some other news that came out today as well, Jose Abraeu signed a three-year.
$60 million deal with the Astros?
Anything you,
any thoughts on that deal at all?
No,
you know,
it's an arms race in the ALS.
The Mariners have to keep getting better.
The Astros are going to keep getting better.
So,
you know,
this,
you have to,
you have to make up the ground.
So,
yeah,
you know,
Houston got better.
Seattle,
clearly went out and got,
Trevor got to get Jose or Rayu out.
And when you look to splits,
it sounds like,
yeah,
it sounds like they pretty much nailed it.
because Trevor God is very good against Rides.
So there you go.
There you go.
The response move. Chills.
Jerry did it again.
All right.
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