Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Mariners Say Goodbye to Mitch Haniger, Get Set For Rule 5 Draft

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

The Seattle Mariners will not have Mitch Haniger in their organization for the first time since 2018 after he landed a three-year contract with the San Francisco Giants. Colby and Ty break down the deal and discuss the legacy of Haniger in Seattle. On a happier note, Casey Sadler is back with the team on a minor-league deal. Ryan Divish says Seattle will add more players this week, including a mystery catcher. Finally, Colby and Ty discuss the Rule 5 Draft and give a few names to watch. All of that and more on today's episode of Locked on Mariners!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/SimpliSafeWith Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnMLB to learn more.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today we say goodbye to Mitch Hanager, who's signed a three-year deal with the San Francisco Giants. We'll also look at some names the Mariners could target in the Rule 5 draft and more on today's episode of the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. It is Wednesday, December 7, 2022. This is Tadang Gonzalez and Colby Patnav for the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you so much for making us your first listen.

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Mitch Hanager is no longer Seattle Mariner officially Colby. He signs a three-year, $43.5 million deal with the San Francisco Giants. As of last night, It's been officially announced by the Giants. The Mariners have sent out a thank you to Mitch via social media, all that stuff. And this is a little bit of an end of an era with Mitch Hanager officially leaving.

But the writing was on the wall. We had heard over the last few weeks, last couple weeks really, that his market was starting to get to a place that, you know, you and I didn't really feel comfortable going. And I think the Mariners definitely did not feel comfortable going just with the ears that were being thrown around. Not necessarily the money. I think the money is more than fine here on Mitch. It's just really making that year commitment to someone that just hasn't been able to stay on the field

and has seen a decline in his production as of late. So what's your reaction to the steel overall? Thank goodness the Mariners didn't do it. First and foremost, you know, three years for a guy with the injury history of Mitch Hanigur, who's, you know, passed his age 30 season now. and typically those things don't get better as you age. So I'm pretty happy the Mariners avoided that. I'm also really happy for Mitch.

You know, it's a bit of a homecoming for him. He's the Northern California guy. I imagine he was, you know, I imagine he went to quite a few Giants games as a kid. So he gets to go to a quality organization. He gets paid, which is awesome, good for him. It's close to his home in Northern California. close to where he went to high school and college. That's awesome.

And, you know, again, it's a quality organization. I imagine he'll DH. I mean, just the thought of Mitch Hanager trying to cover that right center gap and that they have in San Francisco is who. I mean, that's brutal. But, you know, I'm just like I said, I'm just happy for Mitch. I think the Mariners did the right thing here and moving on. You need reliability this year.

Mitch Hanigur is just not a guy who, can do that. Not all of it is own fault. There's been some really fluky injuries, but they all count and they all stack up. And eventually, you just get to a tipping point where if you're the Mariners, you need somebody you feel good about playing is going to play for you, you know,

140 times a year, give or take. So, happy for Mitch. I, you know, I'm certainly going to miss him. He was a great mariner. You know, gave the club everything he had. I wish he was a bigger part of the reb or the the drought ender as as you know as I want him to be he just the injuries just really

drained him of a lot of his value he had to the team in 2022 but you know leadership skills were there he was kind of the rallying cry more or less after the 2021 season didn't go the right way he wrote the letter and all that stuff and I think mariner fans everywhere would would tip their cap to Mitch and he'll be warmly received whenever he comes back and plays in Seattle and I think it's well earned. Mitch Hanager was a very good mariner, and I hope he's healthy, and I hope he crushes it in San Francisco

because Mitch Hanager is a guy who's incredibly easy to root for. Yeah, Mariner's fans won't get a chance to see him in person this year. I don't believe. I don't think they play the Giants twice this year, but the Mariners will face Mitch and the Giants, July 3rd through the 5th. Unfortunately, that Mitch will not be teammates with Aaron Judge. It seemed like that might have been a possibility,

last night. Maybe the Carlos Correa report, though, is true. We'll see if that comes to fruition. But the Giants have a lot of money to spend. So I think they're going to be pretty busy. And Mitch is going to be on a pretty good team for the next couple of years here. But yeah, you know, like you said, the injuries, like some of the injuries that he's sustained are fluky, right? So you can't hold that against him. Really, from my perspective, when we talk about Mitch's injuries, I'm more sort of talking about it, you know, from the aspect. of it just piling up on his, you know, 30 plus year old body, right? Rather than saying, oh, this guy is just injury prone.

I don't want anything to do with him. It's more just because, like, even though some of those injuries are fluky, it's still tax on. That's still stuff that he just kind of has to live with from here on out as a player and as an athlete. So, but yeah, good for Mitch, awesome for Mitch. Really stoked for him. Great that he gets to go back home, gets to play with a pretty dang good organization at

a beautiful ballpark. and hope he has a lot of fun and crushes it and stays healthy, most importantly. Before we move on, I want to get your favorite Mitch Hanager moment because it's been, what, man, it's been a while that he was here. God, when did they trade for him? Was it 2016? Winter of 2017. Right, right.

So about a half decade here, a lot of memories that he created in a Mariners uniform. What's your favorite? Just, you know, the Mitch Hanager game, game 161 last year. Mitch drives in all five runs in a game the Mariners had to have to stay alive. Gets the big RBI single, scores J.P. Crawford from second off of Steve Seashick, Dave Sims, you know, going crazy in the booth with the hey now call and what a night, what a night. And, you know, I think obviously, you know, the pageantry of that and the broadcast cam on Sims. so you can see him make his call and, you know, Mitch firing up the dugout and all that stuff. That's just kind of who Mitch was.

You know, there were times where he would carry this team on his back when he was healthy, and he would carry him for a month at a time. And he's that type of guy. He's that type of leader in the clubhouse. He's not very vocal. He's not a guy who's going to, you know, rally the troops, raw, raw style. But he puts in the work. And he's an incredibly hard worker, which makes all the injuries he suffered and had to work through all the more,

tough to deal with like unfair almost. So the Mitch Anaker game, you know, I mean, heck, the game is named after him. So that's my favorite memory. We have to go back to 2018, I believe, for mine. In the rain, it was just a random midweekday game on Facebook, I think, against the Angels. I'm pretty sure that was 2021. No, that wasn't 20.

No, no. that was 2021 no are you sure Robinson Canoe was on that team no no like that was like I think he was suspended at the time actually of that game um yeah it was 2018 in the rain on facebook against the angels the clip that I posted on Twitter last night that was not that was not 2021 that was not 2021 I know for okay you're right all right all right yeah thank you thank you just check me just check me some credit here I have a never I can remember some things sometimes. See, I can do stuff. So it was 2018 in the rain against the Angels. It was just an awesome moment that, you know, and that was really at the peak of the Mariners run that they had

that year when, God, weren't they like 15 games over 500 or something during the All-Star break? Something ridiculous like that. They were really hot, obviously did not in the drought that year. But that was kind of the height of their success that season. It was a great moment. And that was, that was when Mitch really to me kind of solidified himself as a dude on this team and that was awesome and of course it came against the angels so like duh and you're so did the Mitch Hanneger game so did the Mitch Hanager game as well yeah Mitch crushes the angels owns the angels all the good stuff we're going to miss Mitch best to him in San Francisco let's talk about a guy that um was gone and has returned he was only gone for about a month but he was only gone for about a month but

He has since returned. Casey Sadler has returned on a minor league contract. We'll be talking about him in just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by SimplySafe. At Locked-on Mariners, we believe home should be where you and your family feel safest, especially over the holidays. This season, give yourself and your family the gift of peace and protection with the number one rated home security system, Simply Safe. And right now, SimpleSafe is offering Locked-on Mariners listeners 40% off a new security system. But don't put this off.

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Thank you so much for making us. your first listen. So, per John Heyman, so grain of salt, grain of salt, but I think it has been confirmed by a couple of other sources. Casey Sadler, after being... Sadler himself. Oh, Sadler himself. Okay, there you go. I didn't see that. All right. So Casey Sadler himself, forget John Heyman then. Casey Sadler himself has announced that he has returned to the Seattle Mariner's on a mildly contract after being non-tendered about a month ago. So his, uh, He also had a pretty funny tweet. I did see the tweet that he had today about friends.

Was this a friend's episode? Were we on a break or not? Very good tweet. Elite tweet. Good job, Casey. Appreciate you. So, yeah, Settler's back. That was one when he got non-tendered that we were like,

huh, that's weird. Because we thought that even coming off of the shoulder thing that he had last year, missed all of the 2022 season, that he would probably be a, a pretty, you know, substantial piece of this bullpen moving forward. And maybe that still will be the case, even though that he's on a minor league deal. But it's good to get Sadler back after a great 2021 season for him, right, Colby? Yeah.

Not all that's surprising. You miss an entire year with a shoulder injury. Your options become limited pretty quick. I think Casey probably knew that the odds of him getting a major league deal at any point were basically zero. So when I come back to that. Seattle, it's an organization where he's kind of actually laid in some roots. He lives in the area. You know, he's done a lot of work in the city of Seattle. So it makes a lot of sense. I think he's going to have a pretty good shot to make the club, assuming that he can stay healthy or that he can get back to healthy.

And, you know, if he can repeat what he did in 2021, that's that's your Eric Swanson replacement right there. So big if, but we'll see what happens. But, yeah, Sadler is certainly a fan favorite. So it's nice to see him back. the fold. And I do think he stands a pretty good shot of making the bullpen, but we'll see, man. I mean, Isaiah Campbell's not going to go away. Perlander Burroughs not going to go away. And those two guys carry significantly higher upside than Sadler, but you do need steady veteran presence in the middle of your bullpen. And, you know, Sadler is a guy who could, you know, push out Trevor Gott, maybe. Or it could, you know, push out Penn Murphy or Matt Festa. So, yeah, it's a good signing. There's no downside to a minor league deal.

And obviously, Sather likes it in Seattle and the Mariners like Casey Sather. So it's not all that surprising. So Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times, I think it was earlier today, maybe last night, tweeted that he expects the Mariners to add a few more minor league signings over the course of this week, including a catcher for AAA Tacoma. So I know that you added a few minor league deals in our offseason plan when you put. of that on our Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash control the zone for anyone that wants to check that out. So I assume you have some names. They're still out there that you would like to see the Mariners maybe add, right? No, you don't have it.

Well, I mean, like, here's the deal. When the Mariners do minor league free agency or they give out minor league deals, they typically give them to career minor leagueers. Like very rarely are there major league quality players who they give minor league deals to? There's a couple, you know. I wonder if Jonathan VR is open to come back. Your eyes got so wide, by the way. Yeah, I know, I know. But seriously, I do wonder if like Jonathan VR would want to come back on a minor league deal.

I don't know. Obligatory Jonathan VR. Edwin Rios is kind of interesting on a minor league deal. Former Dodgers, a lot of power, a lot of swing and miss. So maybe there. Donovan Walton, he's a free agent. Hey, Donnie. Yeah, good old Donnie baseball.

Yeah, so, I mean, there are guys. There's just not a lot of them. It's interesting that Divish specifically mentioned catcher. That's going to be a minor league catcher. That's going to be Brian O'Keefe or somebody like that. It's not Terence, not yet. I still think Luis has a decent shot of getting a major league deal somewhere. So it's not going to be him.

I really don't think it's going to be like Brian Anderson. I think Brian Anderson's going to get a major league deal. Johann Camargo is kind of an interesting name. Former Braves, third baseman, can play a couple different positions. But yeah, I think that's, you know, I think pretty much Willie Calhoun would be an interesting on a minor league deal. But I do think that a lot of the what we're going to see in terms of the Mariners bringing in, it, I don't think the mayor is going to bring in somebody on a minor league deal that we're all like,

ooh, ooh, I remember him. I really doubt it. It's going to be a lot of, you know, career, minor leaguers and maybe guys with a couple of like sniffs at the big league level. Albert Almora, maybe somebody like that. But more than likely, it'll be, it'll be some pitchers. Yeah, some pitchers. And apparently one catcher.

And apparently catcher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Mariners might be adding a pitcher to their 26 man roster later today in the Rule 5 draft. We're going to go over some names. By the time that you're watching this, the Rule 5 draft might be over. but Colby's got some names and hopefully he

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So Rule 5 draft is this afternoon. Like I said, it might be happening while you're watching this or it's already over by the time you're watching this, but we're recording this beforehand. So we're going to go over some names. Colby's got a list of names that he wants to go through here. has probably a little bit of information on these guys, but ultimately they're minor leaguers, so we don't have a ton on them.

But hopefully, Colby gets one of these guys right. So Colby, the floor is yours. Not liking my chances here. So real fast here, just quick breakdown, the Rule 5 draft, what it is. Essentially, the Rule 5 draft is an attempt by Major League Baseball to prevent teams from hoarding prospects. because they have a loaded 40-man roster.

It's to try and get these guys who aren't good enough to make a good 40-man, but it might be good enough to play in the big leagues. It's a way for them to prevent roster stacking, essentially, but it doesn't really work that way. They should just give the minor leaguers free agency a year earlier than they currently do. That'd be a simpler solution. But essentially, you take a player in the Rule 5 draft, you give the team that you stole a player from $100,000.

that player has to spend the entire regular season on your 26-man roster. If you want to, you know, DFA the player, if you want to take him off of your 26-man roster, you can offer him back to, you have to offer him back to the original team for $50,000. They would have to pay you $50,000. If they say no, then he goes on waivers and he clears that way. If a team claims him on waivers, he's still Rule 5, which means you still have to hold him on your roster for the entire year. Or you can work out a trade, which happens quite often is the side who you took the player from. Just like, oh, just give us $35,000 cash and you can have them, right?

That's what usually happens in this thing. So typically guys who are on the Rule 5 list, they're unprotected. They're unprotected for a reason. So don't think you're going to get any future stars out of the Rule 5 draft. you're looking for bullpen pieces and bench guys mostly. And the Mariners have historically added relievers. And I believe Jerry DePoto even said that he expects that they're going to add a pitcher at the Rule 5 draft today. So I assume most of the guys, if not all the guys on your list, are going to be reliever types, correct?

All but one. Okay. Now, before we get into your list, though, there is one guy who, a listener of ours, Blanking on the name. So sorry to you. On Twitter asked you about Austin Shitten, former Mariners prospect.

He is eligible to be selected in the Rule 5 draft. I know you love Austin Shenton. Would you consider drafting him even though you would have to guarantee him a spot on the roster? No. I just, there's no chance he makes your Major League team. So if I want him,

I can just go trade for him. After the Rule 5 draft or if a team takes him, I can just trade for him. And by the way, we might see that. Teams often take a player in the Rule 5 and then trade him to another team. But no, I don't see it. He was just really bad in 2022. I still believe in the bat, but he's not close to the major leagues right now.

So no, I wouldn't. All right. So your reliever list plus one other guy. We'll start with the bat since he's easiest to hand out here. Dominique Canzone. He's a left-handed hitting outfielder in the Arizona Diamondback system. Good athlete. He's a minor league contributor.

He's topped out at AAA. He's ready for a major league challenge. He's got some power. He's over a 500 career slug. He had 22 home runs last year. Apparently, he has a little bit of first base experience as well. It can handle the corner outfielers pretty well. So he's an interesting guy.

I think some team will give him a shot. I think a team like Oakland or Pittsburgh would be wise to maybe give him. give him a shot, but I don't really see a fit for Seattle. Again, he's a lefty, not a righty. And I think the Mariners are looking for a little more reliability from their roster spots. But he is a guy to watch out for it doesn't strike out a ton either. So that's interesting. He's a pitcher.

He certainly is a guy. He certainly is a baseball player. All right. Who's next? There's two Lopez's out of Tampa that I'm pretty interested in. there is Jose Lopez and then there is Jacob Lopez. Both are left-handed relievers. Wait, Jose Lopez, one half of the double-play twins?

It's you and he and Jose. No. Both are left-handed relievers. Both have swing and miss stuff. I'm especially intrigued by Jacob Lopez. It's the guy I liked from last year. He is coming off of Tommy John surgery. So it might actually help because you can stash a guy on your 60 day IL

and send him on minor league rehab and stuff like. that. But he throws from a funky angle. He got a ton of strikeouts in 2021, throw strikes. He's an interesting arm as well. Interestingly, not the only lefty I have here. Eric Miller is a left-handed pitcher out of the Philadelphia organization. He's been on prospect list for a while now. He was a starter, but it didn't really work out. They moved him to the bullpen. Now he's the lefty pumping mid-to- Upper 90s fastballs with a decent slider. Huge control. command issues there. So that's obviously why he's unprotected. Another left-handed reliever.

I don't know if I'm going to say his name right, but Andrew Mysayzek, his left-handed pitcher out of Cleveland. He's gotten a ton of strikeouts, good FIP, good numbers in the minors, not overpowering stuff. He has kind of a funky delivery. It's, it's, the setup reminds me of Sean Doolittle, but then like the actual motion kind of reminds me a little bit of Anthony Mischavits. I think that maybe is a guy who's a pretty good comp here. And then that's it for the lefties. A couple right-handed relievers.

Yeah, when are you going to get to the best name in this Rule 5 draft? I didn't put them on the list. You didn't put him on the list. How dare you? I thought that was more of a CTZ type of discussion. All right, check out today's episode of Control the Zone if you want to know who we're talking about. A couple right-hand relivers.

Relievers. Victor Bodnick is a right-hand pitcher for Atlanta. That's not a baseball player. That's a super villain. Bodnick is a smaller guy for a pitcher standpoint. He's six foot, about 200 pounds. Big fastball, again, doesn't throw a lot of strikes. That's a common theme for most pitchers who are unprotected.

They could throw strikes with this stuff. They'd be on the 40, man. So keep that in mind. Zach Green is pretty interesting. It's kind of a high spin rate type of guy out of the Yankees organization. Fastball plays up very well in the zone. Good slider. He's an interesting name that I would watch.

And then kind of, I think this guy would probably go in the bullpen, but he's got a shot to start. Jaden Murray of the Astros organization. He came over in the Traymancini trade. He's 93, 95 with a sinker, pretty good sinker, good change. A good slider. It throws a lot of strikes. This is what differentiates him

between most of the other unprotected guys. 2.2 based on ball per nine in his career in the minor leagues. And he's not going to strike out a guy printing. He's going to be in the high eights in that range. So in the majors, he's probably a low eight or high seven type of guy. He's going to throw strikes. He's got four quality pitches. All of them play up because he's got above average command.

He's a really interesting arm. I wonder if you put him in the bullpen if the velocity and stuff takes up a little bit more. there's a shot that he's the number four starter here and if the Mariners were to select him I'd probably put him near the range of Taylor-Dollard in terms of like prospect ranks so I suspect he'll be long gone before the Mariners

pick but that's kind of a fun guy who gives the Mariners some rotation depth but more than likely gives him a guy out of the bullpen whose stuff could play up so I'm a pretty big fan of of Jaden so all right

then you have a plus one one who's your plus oh was the Murray Murray was your plus one in terms of like you said there was like relievers and then like another type of guy yeah no yeah he's he's the guy who has a shot to start

gotcha got that that's what kind of differentiates in between the other him and the other names yeah I get what you're saying now all right cool so we'll see we'll see what it is it's probably not going to be any of these because of course because of course

But the expectation is that they are going to add a reliever or someone at the Rule 5 draft. Maybe there's a catcher out there that we don't know about. I don't know. There's also a minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft. So, yeah. We'll see if there's anyone that they want to add. Dips into that as well. So. Yeah.

I think they added what three guys last year. Yeah. One name I would watch going the other way for the Mariners. but on the major league section I would watch for Travis Coon he's the guy who could get taken a little bit surprised the marriage didn't protect him I don't think I don't think Bobby bombs Robert Perez Jr. is going anywhere he's just a little too far away to be taken maybe in the minor league portion I'm not quite sure who's eligible for the minor league portion I don't know if Bobby bombs is or isn't one guy who is eligible for the minor league portion though and I

I could see a team taking a shot on is Sam Carlson so we'll have to wait and see what happens with Sam Carlson. He's an interesting guy, man. I still believe in Sam Carlson a little bit. Yeah. Just, you know, needs to, I mean, he's finally healthy, and he's pulked up, but just got to start rising through the ranks. Got to start performing a little bit here.

All right. Well, I think that's going to do it for our show. So the plan right now is to do a mailbag on Friday instead of fanfiction Friday. and then we'll do we'll get back to our regular schedule next week also another thing that we need to talk about here real quick before we hop off is some schedule changes because we we did talk about that in a recording but then that recording got lost the other day and then when we re-recorded I forgot to mention it so again so there we go it's on me but we are going to be going to three shows a week here on the lockdown mariner's podcast and this is just a thing for all the baseball podcast on the Lockdown Network the week of December 18th.

So we'll be going Monday, Wednesday, Friday on here. And then Tuesday and Thursday on our Patreon shows. And we'll be doing that until pitchers and catchers report. That's what we've been told. So this is going to be a very temporary change for about a couple months. And then we'll be back to five shows a week in the middle of February-ish. So yeah. Then tomorrow, I think we're going to talk a little bit about this pitchy market because it is getting out of hand.

We'll talk about how that impacts the Mariners with Chris Flexen and Marco Gonzalez. Should they take advantage of maybe an improved trade market for them? Or would it make more sense just to hold on to Flexin? Is Flexin now suddenly a bargain to have? So we'll get into that discussion. We'll talk about some other things. So check us out on tomorrow's episode of Lerickson. Lockdown Mariners, but that's going to do it for our show today.

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