Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - MLB Insider CONNECTS Seattle Mariners to Tarik Skubal, Plus AL West Trade Options Explored

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

n today’s episode (Nov 5, 2025), Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode jump into hot offseason rumors and kick off their Division-by-Division trade preview, focusing on the AL West! 🚨 Breaking Mariners Rumor: ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that the Mariners are one of the top teams interested in acquiring Tigers ace Tarik Skubal this winter. Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode break down what it would take to land one of the best pitchers in baseball, possible trade scenarios, and why the Tigers might actually move their star despite their postseason window. 🏟️ AL West Trade Preview: Are there trade fits on the Oakland A’s (or should we say Sacramento Athletics)? Brent Rooker, JJ Bleday, and some intriguing bullpen arms are discussed. Could the Mariners and Astros possibly match up? Not likely—but what about a surprise move with a player like Isaac Paredes? What are the odds of a Mariners/Angels deal? Colby Patnode is all-in on Taylor Ward, but stubborn front offices might block the fun. Is Josh Jung a realistic fit from the Rangers, or are there bullpen arms to target when the inevitable Texas payroll cuts begin? Plus, stick around for the latest news on Jorge Polanco, who’s just declined his player option and is now a free agent—will he be back with the Mariners? The guys give their quick reactions. Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONMLBGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA and NFL seasons are here, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

One of the top MLB insiders says the Marers will indeed be interested in Tigers A's ace, Terrick Scoobel this winter. Also, we'll look at the AOLS for the best trade fits for the Marers this offseason. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors.

It is Wednesday, November 5th, 2025. This is Tedding Azales and Colby Patton. for the Lockdown errors podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. This episode is brought to you by Fandual. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if you bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the Fandual app today. We're going to kick off our division by division trade preview with a look at the AL West today.

We'll comb through the rosters of the Angels, A's, Astros, and Rangers for potential trade fits for the M's this winter. But before we do that, we have. a rumor to talk about. Buster only VSPN saying today that the Mariners will be one of the many teams interested in Tigers ace, Terrick Scoobel.

If he does wind up becoming available and it seems like the likelihood of that happening is growing by the day. The more we hear about Scoobel and the Tigers, it seems like they're at least going to listen to some trade offers on school. So we've talked about this.

I've said that I very much want the Marrists to be in on Scoobel. We've already kind of talked about what the cost would be or at least what we think the cost would be, what we would be comfortable trading for one year of Scoobel. So now we have word from one of the top MLB insiders that the Marys are going to be in on this. What do you think? The Scoobel thing is really interesting

because the Tigers are stupid for like, entertaining and not just paying the guy. Like, let's be clear about that. But also, like, based on what we've heard, their previous offers were to Scoobel, it sounds like they have no interest in actually paying this guy. And so why would you keep a guy just to lose him in free agency?

But also, you know, you've gone to the playoffs in back-to-back years. You've been eliminated in the ALDS in back-to-back years. And this is your last shot with the second best pitcher in baseball, best pitcher in baseball, however you want to why would you trade him so it's a weird thing just in general to think about the tariff's school trade because a playoff team and well we don't know that it'll be this way next year but like a kind of even field american league where there is no dominant team uh and you have the best

pitcher in the american league and you're going to trade him like why would you do that but there are a lot of you know rumors and whispers and and smoke to the idea that they're willing to trade scubles. So just starting there, that that's weird. It's a weird thing to have this pop up. But as for, you know, the Mariners interest, good. They should be interested. Absolutely. They should be. If scubal is available, the Mariners should be interested, you know, it's not a guarantee that they win the World Series if they trade for scuba and it'll be expensive. And you're only going to get them for a year. You're not going to sign scuba to an extension. It's just not going to happen. I don't. don't even think you want to, quite frankly, because we're talking about, what, eight years, $350 million, like something like that.

For a guy who, you know, has had a couple surgeries already, he's thrown a lot of endings over the last few years, he's going to be over 30. Like, there are some red flags there. But he is a generational pitcher. So I'm not surprised. I'm more surprised that the tigers are entertaining trading scubel, which by all accounts they are. I'm more surprised by that than the Mariners being interested. Now, how much are they interested in scuba?

I don't know because that is, you know, a couple of great prospects at minimum to go out and get one year of a guy. And that has just not been the Mariners mode of operation. And so it's a very interesting topic. There are a lot of different avenues we can go down. But ultimately, at the end of the day, your goal. should be to win the World Series in 2026. And does Gerangelo Sangea and Las Montes help you do that? No.

Does Terrick Scuba help you do that? Yes. A thousand percent, yes. Plus, also just keep in mind, it's not a for sure thing because there'll be a lockout, but if they keep the qualifying offer system or some version of it, you're going to get something back when Scoobel signs elsewhere this winter, if you trade for him during the last. winter. If you trade for them in the season, you get nothing. So, although the price will be lower.

So, yeah, there's a lot of different avenues we can go down on this one. But a, you know, assuming the tigers are actually willing to trade scoble and it sounds like they are, the Mariners should be interested to some degree. And really the whole conversation comes down to how aggressive do you want the mariners to be because it is going to cost quite a bit to get even just one year of this guy. look you have a very good rotation one that I think is better than the one that we saw over the course of this past season because of all the injuries

that they sustained and they were pitching through you might have very well the most balanced rotation in all of baseball that said you don't have an absolute demon in your rotation and that's what Terek Skouble is he's one of the few true

true aces in the game and if you have the opportunity to go get that guy when you have World Series aspirations, you should go do that, frankly. Know if, sands, or butts about it. The one concern that I have here, though, is that while the Mariners can, you know, just from a pure farm system standpoint,

they can outbid anyone in theory, do worry about their lack of pitching prospects, high-end pitching prospects with proximity to the big leagues. Like I'm talking about they could start, opening day in a major league rotation. Kate Anderson isn't going to do that. D'Angelo Sanger isn't going to do that. Ryan Sloan isn't going to do that.

And we're not talking about prospects like Logan Evans and Emerson, Hancock here. We're talking about guys in a much, much higher tier. So is that ultimately going to be the hang up? Whereas like the Red Sox have some guys that they get offered. That could be in the Tigers rotation tomorrow. It's the same thing as the Duran negotiations.

where you just didn't have a Mick Abel. It's the same thing as the Griffin Jacks negotiations where you just didn't have a Taj Bradley. So that's the one hang up that I could see here in negotiations with the tigers if the Marys are going to not only be interested, but aggressive in trying to acquire him. But other than that,

like I've said in the past, I wouldn't trade Emerson, I wouldn't trade Anderson. But anyone other than that is on the table for me, prospect-wise. Now, you might get into, to a situation here where tigers go, give us two years of Logan Gilbert for one year of

Terek Scoobel, which I think is an interesting conversation. I wouldn't do it. But I do think that's an I do think that's an interesting conversation. I think where this could come into play is you trade hypothetically. My hunch has always been is that if the Mariners trade one of these guys, it's going to be George Kirby. Yep.

if they traded George Kirby to, I don't know, let's say the Mets, right? Just because you trade George Kirby to the Mets. Well, maybe you use the package that you get for Kirby as part of your scuba offer. Yeah, do you get like Jonah Tong? Right. And then you say, okay, well, so let's say you get Jonah Tong and I don't know, Brett Beatty, whatever it is, right? It's like, do you then go to the Tigers and be like, okay, well, now we have Tong and now we can give you Farmello.

and blah, blah, blah. And so now it's basically a three-team trade without it actually being a three-team trade. So I think that is one possible path that could go down. They could also, as you've mentioned, on the Patreon show, you could also trade one of your young prospect bats for a young arm and then take that arm

and flip them to Detroit in a deal. So there are like semi-three-team deals that aren't technically three-team deals. My idea on that was Cole Young to Pittsburgh for Hunter Barco and then Barco to Detroit. Right. And maybe you could do that with Harry Ford. Maybe you can do that with Cole Young. There are some possibilities there as well.

So just because the Mariners don't have the pitcher right now doesn't mean they lack the ability to go get one and then flip him for scuba. There are more hoops to jump through if the tigers want that young pitcher. and it's not the easiest thing in the world to go out and get a young pitcher, even if you do have the young offensive counterpart teams typically prefer to have the arms. So it's one of those things. There are a lot of hangups here, but it is worth exploring every single one of them because Scoobel could be the difference. If you had Scoobel this year, do you win the World Series?

I think you probably do. Yeah. I mean, the biggest hurdle between you win the World Series, frankly was your rotation. Bryce Miller was your best guy, which I mean, Bryce was great. Like, I mean,

even if the starting rotation did show up a bit more than that it did, Bryce still might have been your best guy because of just how well he pitched. But, you know, considering that he was your worst starting pitcher of the five,

of your five main guys over the course of the year, that was a bit of a problem. And obviously Brian Wu wasn't healthy enough to pitch out of the rotation, like to actually start a game in the playoffs. and Logan Gilbert was a disaster in the ALCS. So, yeah, if you had a, you know, school, now obviously the Blue Jays smoked almost everyone in their past. So who knows?

And obviously you beat Scoobel twice or you at least overgame school twice. So who knows, but still like, yeah, if you had school in your rotation for this postseason run, I mean, I feel pretty good about the statement that you, uh, that you win the World Series. How many starts did the Mariners get from their rotation this year where the starter got more than 15 outs? I don't know off the Bryce got six. Oh, you're talking about the whole season run? Yeah. I thought you meant the whole season. Oh, no.

I mean, not as many as you would like from that either. But yeah, sentings from your starter, I think maybe twice. And we saw what that did it. You had to go to the bullpen more frequently. You had to, you know, use guys three, four days in a row against teams that had already seen him for three, four days in a row. Like, those things add up. And if you have a school bowl, you feel really good, can, dominate in a playoff start and go seven strong and do all that.

And there's a trickle down effect there. So scoble's well worth the discussion. He is well worth the price that we think they're going to pay. It's just, does that particular price line up with what you have to offer? I don't know. That's the biggest hurdle to me because I would say the biggest hurdle is the tiger's actually trading scoobal.

But man, it seems like all the smoke we're seeing and all the stories we got about the disrespectful offer. that the tigers made to scuba last winter. It all just points to a team that's like, yeah, we're ready to move on from this guy. We're going to try and cash in. So we'll see. But again, just brace yourself.

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So we are kicking off our division by division trade preview today with a look at the AL West. We'll do the AL Central tomorrow and then we'll work through some of the other divisions over the next few weeks. It's something that we do every single offseason. we're going to start with the athletics. Are they the Sacramento athletics now? Are they just still the athletics? I know they're getting a Sacramento Jersey.

We'll just go with the athletics. Yeah. I can't imagine that this team is going to be looking to trade off from their roster that much. This seems like a team that is going to start to build towards competing again. You know, the A's do that thing where like for

three to four years they're competitive, then for three to four years they're non-competitive and now seems like they're back on that upward swing into being competitive again. It's the A cycle. And it usually culminates with them going all in on one year. And then they lose in the first round and then they just sell off everybody. Like remember when they traded like six years of Lazzardo for two months in Mark A?

Starlight March. And then they traded Olson and Murphy in that winter. They do it. It's usually a five year cycle. Five years, four years they're good. One year, they're great potentially World Series. caliber. They lose. They trade everybody away. And then they start the cycle over again. Five years, they're bad. Or three years they're bad. Two years they're, you know, they're on the upsling. And that

appears to be where they're right in your cycle. So, yeah. So I don't know if there's anyone outside of the bullpen that you want to talk about. Is there? Yes. Okay. Brent Rucker. Yep. 100%. Yeah. I would call the A's. Like, every Monday until the end of Brent Rooker's contract or until he sucks and just be like, just checking in, Brent, maybe? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

But also, you know, it doesn't really fit all that well just based on where the Mariners are at. But I have always been intrigued by JJ Bladay, who is coming off of a really bad year this year. Got sent down, got demoted. Yeah. But he was really good in 2024. He can play all three outfield spots. He's a left-handed hitter. He's an athlete, which is something I would like more of in this organization.

I think he's only supposed to make about $3 million bucks. It's one of those lottery tickets that you stick in the corner outfield and you see if it's better than Robles or Rayleigh or Canzone. He also had a solid second half. He had 252-306, 495, 115 WRC Plus. Now he did strike out 30 and a half percent of the time. So, right. So again, it's not a perfect player, but he is a player who I would, I would rather take a shot on him rebounding than like Victor Robles. Would I rather take a shot on him than like Luke Rayleigh similar, I would say. So again, it's not it's not the cleanest fit in the world, but I like Bladay as a player.

And I think Seattle can get more out of him. So I would just, you know, keep an eye on that. But other than that, no, maybe. some kind of challenge trade for Zach Gelloff. But yeah, yeah. You know, it's pretty much role with Cole Young

if you're interested in Gelloff, I think. So, yeah, there's not a ton there offensively, but Bladay is somebody I would, you know, maybe if I can get him cheap enough. And again, I would just be constantly asking about print rucker. I know he signed the extension, blah, blah, blah. That doesn't matter.

Yeah. So I feel like if you're going to make a trade with the A's, this off season, it's going to be for a bullpen arm. Like if you're getting an accent, actual major league piece from them. It's for a bullpen arm. The guy that I really like is Justin Sterner.

We saw him a few times, especially early on in a couple of those earlier A's Mariners series. You go to his baseball's font page, a lot of red. It's a four seamer. It's a sweeper. It's a cutter. Sweeper has generated a 46.4% whiff rate last year. So I'm interested in that profile. I think the Mariners would also be pretty interested in that profile. So he's the guy that stands out for me in this bullpen.

Anyone else? No, not really. I like Luis Severino. I think he would be an incredible fit for the Mariners in the ballpark. But he's making Luis Castillo money. And so you trade Luis Castillo and not save any money and trade for Severino. Just a little too messy for me. but no, there's not a ton on Oakland or DAs that I think is likely to be moved that I would have interest in as a Marius fan.

Again, there's a couple of Dei and Gelloff if you're kind of looking for lottery tickets. And then Sterner is kind of the big guy out of that bullpen. And then Severino, I guess there's like a one in a thousand shot that the post or that the offseason goes down a very particular path where I would be interested in trading for Severino, who I'm sure wants out of Saccharacterione. And I'm sure Sacramento once out of Luis Severino in that deal. So no, not a ton for the A's, which it's going to be a theme for, I assume the next team we're talking about. Yeah. I mean, the other guy in the bullpen that I would just mention here, I don't think the A's would be willing to move on from him. But former Mariners prospect, they got him in the Rowanus Aaliyah Steele with the Nationals a long time ago, Elvis Salverado.

he finally made his way to the bigs and he looked pretty good. He throws gas and he generated a 37% whiff rate on his four seamer and a 41% whiff rate on his slider last year in his cup of coffee in the big. So yeah, I don't know. If they're open to it, I would be super down to take a shot on Alvarado. Sure. All right. So who did you want to talk about next?

I thought the Astros. Yeah. All right. Let's do it. Let's talk about the Astros. So obviously this is a team that's going to look to retool to, you know, go back after it's ALS crown. Now you're getting chased by the Astros after you've chased them for so long, which is a nice. It's a nice reversal rolls here.

I can't imagine that the Marys and the Astros are going to wind up on most things here, though. No, they've traded in the past, but I don't think they've made a trade since the Gravement trade. So it's been a while. Yeah. Yeah, I think that was the last one. It's been a while. I don't think the front offices wouldn't make trades with each other if there was a good fit. But looking at this roster, it's not a lot of good fits.

You know, most of the guys in the bullpen are making serious money. The ones you aren't, Houston's not going to trade to you. So the bullpen's kind of out. You kind of look at, you know, obviously they're not trading Altova. They're not trading Pena. you're not trading for Correa. You probably don't want that contract anyways. Yordon's out.

So, yeah, the rotation, the Astros kind of need to keep their rotation arms because half of them are going to end up getting Tommy John. And it's fine. They'll replace them with somebody better because that's just what the Astros do. But when you really look at it, this roster, you kind of go, is there anything that the Mariners could use? And yeah, like Ramon Urias, maybe coming off the Baxter. bench kind of replacing Dylan Moore.

But even he's going to make four and a half million dollars. I mean, it's not bad, but like whatever. You're probably not getting Maricio DuBond. Hesu Sanchez is just Luke Grayley, but more expensive. So that's not really good there. Hayden West Nesky would be pretty cool. I like him, but. When's he going to be healthy?

Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know when he's going to be healthy. And then, yeah, it's like, it's pretty much it. I mean, Chas McCormick, but he was just put on release waivers. So you don't have to make a trade for him. And he's been pretty bad for the last couple of years. And he's going to make $3 million as kind of that fourth outfield type. So, yeah, I just don't see a lot with the Astros.

It makes a lot of sense. Some bench players, maybe. But you kind of go through the fits and what the Mariners need and what the Astros need. I just, I don't see it. Yeah. Yeah, what I'm most curious to see here, and this doesn't pertain to the mirrors, though, is just how this whole Paratus, Correa, Altuvae, Yordon thing works out. Like, right now, Ross for Resource has Paratus as the full-time DH and Yordan playing left field. Like, okay, in Houston, with the Crawford boxes, you can make that work, I guess.

But anywhere else, like, how was that going to work? it feels like one of those guys is going to have to be on the bench, right? Yeah, I mean, Yordon and Altuve should be de-aging, like the both of them. But obviously, only one person can, and Paredes is probably the best defender of the three. But obviously, they're not going to bench Correa. They just traded for him. So, yeah, that's kind of an interesting, you know, situation they have to navigate. I don't think there's, obviously, Yordon and Al-Tube aren't going anywhere.

So it would be Paredes, it would be the, man out but they're not going to trade you parades and even if they did you want to pay a premium for a guy who's a kind of weird ballpark fit. Yeah. No, in general though, I

kind of wonder if they do trade parades somewhere. Yeah. I could see it. All right. We're going to look at the Rangers and the angels to wrap things up here on our AL West trade preview in just a moment. But first a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Marys podcast is brought to you by

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gone too long without mentioning the fact that Hori Polanco has officially declined his player option. We were all wondering what was taking so long because it was a, you know, pretty obvious decision, it seemed, for him to decline the option, given the year that he just had. We were planning on actually making that part of our show today, talking about like, hey, are they maybe, you know, working on an extension behind the scenes or something like that? And then right before we hit record, boom, John Heyman tweets, yeah, Polanco's declining his option. So there you go. Polo is officially a free agent.

The mayor is, I'm sure, are going to have a lot of interest in bringing him back, just like Josh nailer maybe a eugenio swore us to a certain degree but we've talked about that it's nailer and then polo and then i think a pretty large gap before anyone else uh but yeah there you go so everyone we expected to be a free agent for the merrers is a the agent now uh and they can freely uh negotiate with other teams starting to morrow i believe so yeah all right uh let's wrap things up here on our AOS trade preview with the Angels and the Rangers, starting with the Angels. And this is, I mean, probably a pointless thing to do here because the Bears and the Angels haven't traded with one another since Jerry DePoto landed in Seattle.

But for the sake of the exercise, we will come through this roster, talk about some guys that we like. I think we should start with Taylor Ward. because he's been our guy. He's been specifically your guy, but I also really like him for years now. He's Mitch Hanneger. Yeah.

It's pretty much it, but still good at baseball. Yeah, not current day Mitch. He's like 2019 Mitch Hanigar. Yeah. Potentially 2021 Mitch Hanigar. Not 2018 Mitch Hanigar, which was my favorite, Mitch Hanigar, but whatever. Yeah, the frustrating thing about the angels is that they make a ton of sense for the Mariners.

And the Mariners actually make a ton of sense for the Angels. The Angels need to rebuild a farm system. The Mariners have the pieces to help with that. The Angels, you know, or the Mariners probably want to trade Luis Castillo, but they need a team who's willing to eat a chunk of the contract. and would, you know, value Castillo. And the Angels certainly help with that. Like, the Angels are a team that needs starting pitching.

They're going to spend in free agency. We know this. They're going to spend stupidly, but they're going to spend in free agency anyways. And some kind of Luis Castillo for Taylor Ward swap makes a ton of sense for both teams. And the Angels won't even engage with the Mariners. Now, maybe that changes. I don't know. Manassians, you know, in the last year of his deal and they've made it clear that this doesn't go well.

You're getting fired by the fact that they gave their manager a one year contract like dumpster fire organization. We'll keep dunking on them forever. But like Taylor Ward for Luis Castillo, at least a package centered around that or maybe just that straight up makes so much sense for both teams. Like it's nuts how much sense it makes. And yet we can't even really discuss it all that much. Like we can't even talk about it in our offseason plan prep because we just have to kind of say like, yeah, no trades with the angels. Yeah. And there are other guys on this roster who makes sense for the Mariners too, but Ward is the guy.

Like if you put Taylor Ward in right field with Randy and left and Julio and Center, that's one of the best outfields in baseball. It's a ton of home runs. Is their swing and miss? Sure. Is Ward, you know, an on base guy? Yeah. No, not really. Is Ward going to, you know, hit for a decent average, hit 25 homers?

play decent enough defense in a corner. And is he going to lengthen your lineup? Yes. And you only need them for one year. That's all he's got left on his contract. If you swapped him for Luis Castillo, you would save about $10 million this year. And then obviously the 24 next year.

The Angels need starting pitching. They need innings eaters. They need veterans. And Luis Castillo, by the way, would fit well in that ballpark because that ballpark is a pitcher's park, especially at night. Yeah. It all makes so much sense, and the Angels probably won't even consider it just because Jerry Napoto is the one calling them, and that sucks.

Yeah, there's some guys in the bullpen that I kind of like, I mean, Reed Deppmers is probably going back into their rotation, but Debtmers is someone that I would really like for the Mariners bullpen. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't mind have been giving him a shot in the rotation for a year. You and I both really liked Robert Stevenson when he was a free agent, and then he got hurt. And then he landed on the aisle again at the end of the season with right elbow inflammation. So aches. But he was he was really good in his time with the with the raise. And yeah, we were all about that. I don't know.

Maybe like if they did a Castillo deal and money needed to be swapped. Maybe Stevenson could be that guy. Also, Travis Darnow would be a guy to swap salaries with in the Castillo. deal. He wasn't good last year, but he's been a very good backup catcher, one of the best backup catchers in baseball, more of a 1B type of guy, and you're losing Garver, and if you were to trade Airy Ford, you would need a guy, and Darnaud is a pretty decent bounceback candidate who you feel comfortable starting games. Like there are a lot of, I mean, even Joe Adele, to a certain extent, makes some sense for the Mariners as well. So there are lots of options here. Unfortunately,

they're hidden behind the wall of stupidity that is the angel's ownership. Yeah. Joe Adele had such a weird year. Like he finally broke out kind of but he was also only a 1.2 F4 player. He was a bad defender. He got on base at a

three at a sub 300 clip like but he also had 37 bombs. Yeah. Weirdier. Weirdier for Joe. know. All right. Let's look at the Rangers here. This is the most intriguing team to me, especially because it looks like they might be shutting payroll. There's some rumblings about that going around. Could they actually trade Marcus Simeon or at least look to try and trade Marcus Simeon this off season? Yeah, not to the Merrers, by the way. Yeah, that's just in general. Could they look to trade Corey Seeger maybe, not. to the merriors obviously, but in general, could they actually? Would be hilarious if they did, though. Maybe do that. Yeah, we'll see.

But yeah, this is a team that might go through a bit of turnover this off-season. Adola Garcia is all but guaranteed to get non-tendered. Jake Burger might be done after one year in Texas. So, yeah, so some changes could be incoming here. I mean, Josh Young is another guy that they might just move on from. That's the guy to watch. Yeah, and I think that's the guy that we should start with here for specifically the Mariners.

Now, the Mariners and the Rangers haven't made too many trades, but we know that they talked to one another about Nathaniel Lowe deal last year. The Marys were apparently pretty aggressive on that before Lowe wound up getting traded to Washington. So they've talked. So I don't know. maybe they finally push something across the finish line this year and maybe it's for Josh Young. Maybe it's taking a shot on him. Young doesn't sound like a guy or yeah, young doesn't sound like a guy who you would trade if you're trying to cut salary,

but it's not just a salary with him. He's going to make about $3 million R1 this year. But the Rangers are reportedly, I don't want to say fed up, but like they're kind of disenchanted with Josh Young. They kind of are done with that experiment. He keeps on getting hurt and all that. And it's been pretty well thrown out there that, like, yeah, they would consider moving on from him and going to different direction at third base. They also have, you know, kind of the emergence, so to speak, of Josh Smith, we can certainly play third base for them.

Josh Smith would be an awesome ad for the Mariners. I don't think he's actually one of the guys they would trade. So I'm not going to really spend much time talking about him. But the Mariners don't have a third baseman right now. Young has shown that he can't be a productive big leaguer in spurts in his big league career so far. And there's certainly upside with this play. So I think he is kind of a really ideal fit. And I don't know what it would cost.

It's kind of a tricky situation. It's a three-year club control, but it's a guy who's been hurt a lot. It's a guy who's been whose production has been inconsistent, let's say. So, yeah, it's kind of a tricky trade proposition. I don't think, you know, again, their salary dumping $3 million really doesn't do much for you. So I don't think you're going to get quite a discount there. But I also don't know. Like, let me just throw this out there, Ty.

And this is just off the top of my head. Maybe I'm forgetting something. I don't know. Would you trade Harry Ford for three years of Josh Young? Uh, would you trade Cole Young? No. would you trade Michael Oroyo? No.

Then you're not getting. You're not getting. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm good on that. Yeah. It's the on base that'll kill you. Like that's the one skill that I'm most worried.

Yeah. Yeah. It's that. It's the injuries. Yeah. Like if I'm able to take like a flyer on him, if I'm able to get him for like Teddy McGraw and another dude like short. What did you get him for like Ty Pete?

Yeah. Tai Pete and Bizarro. not bizardo no tie doesn't want Josh young that's the long and the short of it which is fine yeah yeah but that's the guy that jumps out to me

yeah so outside of outside of young I mean there's some guys in the bullpen like when they trade Robert Garcia yeah because it's kind of a guy yeah because of so I'd be down Josh spores coming off of the injury that he is I mean he was pretty good before he got hurt

the tricky thing with the with the rangers is that most of they're really interesting guys are all free agents yeah maton coulone armstrong

yeah like they just they're all free agents and so Joe Hines's probably going to get non-tittered right? Yeah I think so I'd be interested in him as a backup option once he hits free agency yeah I mean yeah you're probably

because they want to have payroll, there's probably not a way for you to trade for Hime and just tender him a contract because you don't want to spend $6 million on a backup catcher, especially when you have Harry Ford still. So, yeah, Jacob Webb put up a career year if he doesn't have to face the Meriters. Yeah. Yeah, so I'll throw this out there. It's, again, there's payroll-wise, like if they want to dump payroll, they're going to clear up like $18 million just by non-tendering Hym. and Garcia, so that should help.

But payroll-wise, there's only really one name I see that makes some sense for Seattle, and it doesn't even make sense right now, but he could. It's Nathan Avaldi. Yeah. So if the Mariners trade, Luis Castillo,

Avaldi would be near at the top of my list for a replacement. Now, there's age concerns, there's injury concerns. He's also going to eat up pretty much all of the money you saved. Actually, I think he costs a little more than you. Yeah, he's making 25. Yeah. So, but the stuff is so good.

He's a really good arm. I trust him. He would be an upgrade. I'd pay a little bit extra to have Avaldi, but again, I just don't think he might be the best pitcher in the mayor's rotation if he's all day. Yeah, yeah. So again, I don't see that as very likely at all. But I think Josh Young is interesting. I think Ezekiel Duran, I know he has been good for a minute, but you play a lot of spots.

He's still young. He's a right-handed hitter. You need that platoon guy off. the bench. It could be him, or that utility guy off the bench. It could be him. Webb is a guy again. Garcia and Hym, once they're not tendered, is more of my speed than trading for them.

Jake Berger, possibly a guy that you could trade for. But, you know, we know why the Mariners didn't really go. We saw what it would have cost the Mariners last winter. And we didn't hear for even a second that the Mariners sniffed around on Jake Berger. So I think we know how they feel about him. And then I'll just throw this name out there. Ham Swaggerty reunion. Yeah.

Yeah, he is under contract for one more year with them. Utility guy. Bring some speed. Right-handed hitter. That's where you want to use them is against lefties. Yeah. I, you know, maybe. But it does feel like a lot of what the Rangers have to offer you.

You could just wait until tomorrow and get them for free, you know. So, well, not tomorrow, but, you know, whatever the non-tender is. when is that deadline I think it's like November 19th you have to I don't know let me look that up but yeah

so not a lot really in the ALS I mean mostly because like two of the teams you just don't really line up well with specifically because of where they are right now and their roster build and then one because you literally have never traded with them yeah before uh so really it's the rangers and the rangers just don't have a ton there's some guys

like we talked about contract if yeah natan and kulom if those guys were all under contract so we'd have a lot to talk about but they're not so uh the non tender deadline is november 21st okay so yeah two and a half weeks yeah all right that's gonna do it for a show thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown eras podcast for colby patnaud I'm Tedding Azales. Be sure you give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Tedding Azalus and Colby at CPAT 11. That's CPAT 11.

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