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Starting point is 00:00:01 We are a month away from the playoffs, and there's been a couple of really key movements among the leaders of the league. And one team that looked like they were dead may have revived themselves much to my dismay. This is the Lockdown MLB Squad Show. Step up to the plate. It's the Lockdown MLB Squad Show, sponsored by game time. From the Dodgers to the Astros, the Mets to the Rangers, and everyone else in the league, with the experts of the Lockdown Podcast Network bringing you the most comprehensive breakdown, of all the action around the horn. We're coming in spikes up.

Starting point is 00:00:35 No hurt feelings allowed. So squad up. Welcome into the latest edition of the lockdown Moby squad show. Appreciate you joining us here today. As always, we have a nice cast and crew from the Lockdown MLB channel. We got Booney from Lockdown A's Justin Lada, one half of Lockdown Guardians, Shady Halfroom from Lockdown Cardinals, myself, Jeff Carrar. I'm your host for today and one half of Lockdown Reds.

Starting point is 00:01:01 And of course, the venerable, the inimitable. the trying to think of another word with a bowl at the end of it. Sully from your locked on MLB podcast. And we are all glad that you're here today. A little bit later on, we're going to talk about who Sully hates today. I think it's on its chest. We're also going to get into just a few minutes.

Starting point is 00:01:20 What's harder for homers or the cycle? Kyle Schwabber probably has a good feeling for that one. But we will begin with just looking at the league right now because there's a couple of key races that seem to be heating up. And a couple of key races that seem to be cooling down where we thought they were already pretty hot. That's all on the squad show today that's brought to you by Game Time. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use the promo code locked on MLB to save $20 off your first purchase. All right.

Starting point is 00:01:51 So the Brewer's bullpen looks like it's getting real tired. The Phillies pitching staff as a whole is getting decimated. And the New York Mets have figured out how to play baseball again as much as I might hate it. Sully, your thoughts? Well, I do a thing called the summer score where I keep track of which teams are in a playoff spot. There has been no movement in the American League playoff spots since the rays fell out of it on July 14th. Okay?

Starting point is 00:02:22 That was the last time. It's been Tigers, Astros, Yankees, Blue Jays, Mariners, and Red Sox since July 14th, with the exception of two days where the Rangers showed up and tied for the first. final wild card spot, but then fell out. As for the National League, the last time there was any movement, the Giants were briefly in there in mid-July, the Cardinals were briefly there in early July, and since July 12th, Cubs, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, and Brewers have been the playoff team. So it feels like it's like, well, it's anyone's guess, except basically since Bastille Day, with the exception of a couple of days with the Rangers dipped

Starting point is 00:03:04 their toe into it, there's been no change of the teams who are the playoff teams. Now, there have been movement within the playoff hierarchy since then, and that's the universal symbol for playoff hierarchy right there. I'm casting a spell. But the Red Sox haven't fallen out. Despite all of the doom and gloom in New York, both teams have been securely in a playoff spot since the middle of May. So there have been teams that look like they're about to fall to do a wily coyote impersonation, but they've always been able to bounce back. Even the Mets played an incredibly sloppy game tonight against Miami.

Starting point is 00:03:46 That came off of a sweep of Philadelphia. And the Yankees, oh, my God, doom, gloom, doom, gloom, yeah. And they play team. Then they play little league teams and hit eight or nine home runs a game. Once upon a time, both New York teams were feeling the pressure and looking in their rearview mirror and seeing two Ohio teams right behind them. And Justin, both Ohio teams are now no longer that close. They sure are not. I don't know if this is a good or a bad thing.

Starting point is 00:04:17 Like, so I was just saying there hasn't been a whole lot of changes. But I feel like we don't have a favorite this year. Like, obviously, we came into the year thinking the Dodgers had every right to to claim. It wasn't fair. It wasn't fair. Yeah, it wasn't fair. they had every right to claim a championship before the season started. And they've had obviously lots of injuries as they do every single year.

Starting point is 00:04:35 They probably will play in the World Series again with a game of bullpen or two. So I don't know. Is it a good thing that we're on, you know, we're sitting here in the final weekend of August and we're like, who is going to be in the World Series? Like, I don't really know if there's a, like a favorite. Is that a good or a bad thing? Jady, can the Dodgers catch the Brewers? Because I know the Brewers just signs your boy Eric Fetty to help them with the pitching side of things right now.

Starting point is 00:04:59 I got a big addition to that Brewer's rotation right there picking up the leftovers of Eric Fetty who left left some turds in St. Louis, a couple more in Atlanta. And now he's in Milwaukee losing games for them. I mean, I don't see like I don't want to say that it can't happen. I mean, they're only a few games ahead of them. And, you know, the Brewers are finally starting to slow down a little bit, similar to how the Detroit Tigers kind of had that lull for a little while where it was just kind of like, oh, They're not invincible anymore. And you see the Dodgers just getting healthier.

Starting point is 00:05:34 They get snowback. They get glass now back. Otani is starting to become more of an impact pitcher and throw deeper into games. They get that bullpen fixed the way that they wanted it to be before, you know, people went down with injuries over and over. I don't see how the Dodgers don't have a chance at catching them. The team that keeps pace with those guys right now is the Padres. The Padres.

Starting point is 00:05:57 I thought that was going to be a team that just based off their. starting rotation. I was like, I was a little nervous about what they do, but obviously the bullpen, they got out a bunch of pieces and added that, and things have gone quite well for them since the deadline. Yeah, that's something that I find intriguing, like looking at both of the races for the number one seed in each league, because it seems like the Dodgers are starting to catch up a little bit with the Brewers. And there's a couple of other teams that could if the Brewer's bullpen luck continues to hold. But then on the American League side of things, Jordane Alvarez is back. are the Astros, do they have a shot at catching Toronto and Detroit?

Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't think they do. My pick to take it all and to win the World Series, and it's going to be really, really telling this weekend is the Mariners. But what I am confused at with regard to the Mariners and why I say this weekend is they are two different teams playing at home and playing on the road. But as far as how they're designed with their pitching, Gilbert, Kirby, Wu, and that lineup, picking up Suarez and Nailer.

Starting point is 00:07:06 I mean, their lineup from top to bottom is a monster in the bullpit. But again, I cannot figure out why they are so bad on the road. And that's why this weekend is so telling when they go to Cleveland. I don't think Houston's going to catch Toronto, and I don't think Houston's going to catch Detroit, and I don't think they have to. I think that they're a team. I think that once they get into the postseason,

Starting point is 00:07:31 they are the bear that we don't want to poke. And I'm a feeling that people have discounted them because they lost game 7, the ALCS in 2023. They were just quickly swept away last year. We forgot they're even in the playoffs last year. And so they're very quietly, they're very quietly a first place team in late August. and adding Jordan Alvarez,

Starting point is 00:07:58 if some of those pieces come back to this squad, no, I don't think this is a 100-win team. But this is a team that if all the pieces are there, or if close to the pieces are there in October, and you have to wonder, you know, there are certain, you know, Detroit has come back down to earth a little bit. And Derek Scouble has not looked,

Starting point is 00:08:23 you know, he looks slightly, he still will go to win the Cy Young Award. but he's not the right in in ink win. And there are question marks for Toronto. It would not stun me. First of all, I absolutely think Houston is getting to the division series. And it would not stun me if they play the Detroit or Toronto in the division series that they would win and get to the ALCS.

Starting point is 00:08:46 And I vote against them at your own peril. Real quickly. What's not about betting real quick, okay? Betting against your own player. your own team. What's a little sensitive subject here in Cleveland? Can we, I mean, Jeff once held the title of that one for his team a long time ago. Now here in Cleveland, we have to deal with that. So let's refrain from that phrasing, please, for my saying. Something about Ohio, because the white socks threw the game so the Reds could win the World Series.

Starting point is 00:09:15 It's always comes back to the weather. It's the weather here. It's just something else we do in Ohio, but ruin your life. That's what it is. It's just crazy. Well, I know this. There's definitely a lot of intrigue, like Justin mentioned, and like you guys have been really kind of bouncing around. Like, these playoffs are going to be so nasty and in a fun way for us fans. But when it comes to the way that we've been seeing performances here recently for the Philadelphia Phillies, they've really had to cover up the loss of a couple of key pitchers.

Starting point is 00:09:49 And on Thursday, they felt pretty good about one performance. And coming up next, we're going to discuss whether, what Kyle Schwerber did or what a few others have done in a different way with the bat is more impossible or improbable or at least difficult. Hey, baseball fans, are you still paying full price for gasoline? Stop leaving money behind. Get real cash back every time you fill up with the free upside app. Simply download the free upside app in the app store or Google Play right now and start

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Starting point is 00:12:21 Which is more difficult? Somebody hitting four home runs in a game or somebody hitting for the cycle. I used to, I would say, that four home runs was much more difficult. Now, with how baseballs change, usually when a player's three home runs in, the game for the most parts of blowout. I honestly thought Shoreboro's going to hit five. When Kurtz hit his four home runs in his game,

Starting point is 00:12:48 the fourth home run was off the position player. Today, Bruhan actually pitched in the eighth. I thought Shorewood was going to hit his fifth home run. And in those games, usually it's a blowout. you're going to have some sort of position player in. It's almost like a gimmie with a cycle to get that triple, no matter how you do it.

Starting point is 00:13:09 It takes a little bit of luck. You're going to have to hit it into a certain gap. It's going to have to take a certain bounce. I think it's a lot harder right now to hit a cycle versus four home runs. Can I point out one thing? We missed out on the game that we really could have had this discussion. On June 3rd, 1932, and I was at this game. Luke Garrig was the first in the modern era to hit four home runs in a single game.

Starting point is 00:13:39 In that same game, Tony Lazeri hit for the cycle. So who was the MVP of that game? Who was the MVP of that game? Garry would have four home runs, Lazeri hitting for them. Obviously, it's Garrig. But they did against the A's who were the defending American League champion. So it's not like they were, it's not like it was a. Choms. Final score, by the way, 20 to 13. It was a heck of a pitcher's duel.

Starting point is 00:14:07 But yeah, in one game, Tony Lazeri hits for the cycle, Gary hits four home runs. You had two massive, massive performances by Yankees, and neither one were named George Herman Ruth. But I agree that with, first of all, I was very, I was delighted to see that Schwabert's fourth home run was not off a position player. Because there's something about that that puts a bad taste of my mouth. It's like when Brock O' was the first person to hit for the cycle in the postseason, but the Yankees were actually using a position player in a playoff game, and he hit the home run off of the position player. And I'm like, he hit the home run, I guess. Yeah, that's yay.

Starting point is 00:14:51 You know, I think that I've been saying for years that instead of playing the position player, the team can just say, uncle, because, you know, you're, you're, you're potentially risking an injury to a position player. And really, who's enjoying that? It was fun when it happened, like, once a year. But now it's part of the strategy. When you see a blog, you just know, some backup infielder is throwing. I actually, I think the four home runs is harder.

Starting point is 00:15:21 I think that that's, it's more rare. And, you know, booty's right. A triple is almost always out of luck. Or because you're playing in cores. that you, it's so deep that it gets past the outfielder there. There's an element of luck to that. You got to get a hold of it four times. And, you know, somewhat, you know, and taking it deep to the wall.

Starting point is 00:15:45 By the way, Hall of Famer Ed Delahanty in 1896, hit four home runs. Two of them were inside the park and in the same game. And really rare. Ed Delhanty hit the four home runs is in the Hall of Fame and is the only member of the Baseball Hall of Fame to get drunk and fall into Niagara Falls and die.

Starting point is 00:16:16 I was going to say to be those games. Right. Back then. Oh, now, right? Yeah. Like a time or so. Yeah. I think it's hilarious.

Starting point is 00:16:26 That thing. They said, oh, yeah, Kyle Schwerver's got a, You got to fight the Phillies curse of the four home runs because of Ed Delahanty. That's kind of where I think it's interesting because I think ballpark plays into that. Depending on where you play, like, L.A. Dela Cruz hit for the cycle at Great American Ballpark. It's really hard to hit a triple at Great American Ballpark unless you're L.A. Dela Cruz. Does that kind of influence your decision on that when it comes to which is harder, Justin? Yeah, I was going to say that, like, Boney was right.

Starting point is 00:16:58 You have an element of luck. You've got to be fast. You've got to be playing in the right ballpark. And I've also seen a four-home run game in person. It's one of your favorite outfielders, Jeff, Will Benson. I was live for that one. So I've seen a four-home run game in person before. So I'm going to say much harder to hit for the cycle because you could get locked in for a game.

Starting point is 00:17:18 Like Nick Hertz is a rookie and he did it this year. I know he did it on his last off position player. But like, you got guys who get locked in and it happens over time. The cycle, there is an element of randomness to it. You have to get a little bit lucky. And also, too, like the detraction from that is that scoring changes now. Like, I feel like scoring is a lot easier. You might have a ball that you hit to the outfield.

Starting point is 00:17:37 The guy doesn't get to where he makes a bad dive or something. And the home official score is like, well, we'll just call it a hit, even though it probably should be an error. And that plays into it a little bit, too. So there's so much luck to it. And I think that makes the odds of a cycle just so much harder and so much lower. So I'm going to say a cycle is a lot harder. And, of course, you add in the fact that, you know, Schwerber had four home

Starting point is 00:17:58 and nine plus RBIs. The last guy to do that, J.D., former Red, Scooter Jeanette. Yeah, was that that game? He did it against my Cardinals. And you know who did it for the Cardinals against your Cincinnati Reds? Hard hitting Mark Whitton. You know that name, Sully. You remember.

Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, yeah. Former Blue Jay prospect in the Tom Candati trade. There you go. Had all the tools, big, fast, had a cannon for an arm and had that monster game against the Reds where a 12 RBIs, I think, in that game. too. Like it was just an unbelievable. I think that's the only hits he had all season when he was that year with the Cardinals. But I just, I've seen more of the cycle hit.

Starting point is 00:18:39 So like somebody said, it's more rare to see the four home runs. I don't know why that is considering that, you know, for a few years, we had the juice ball. We're using steroids and we have all of this stuff. And it still didn't quite happen nearly as much as the cycles have happened over the history of Major League Baseball. So I'm going to go with the sluggers. I think it's harder to hit four home runs than it is the cycle. Well, and to add to the point about the four homers being more difficult, like at some point, the opposing team is going to tell their pitcher to throw around that guy.

Starting point is 00:19:10 He's just going to throw pitches that aren't even close to the strike zone, unless it's the Cincinnati Reds playing the Milwaukee Brewers and Christian Yelich is at the plate because for some reason, there's a magnet in the middle of the strike zone that all of the pitches they throw. Go right there. And Christian Yelich hits everything. out of the ballpark. I'm not bitter about it at all. I think I'm in the four homer category as well, just because I've seen less of those, like you said, J.D. The scooter Jeanette game for me is such a memory, not only because he had such a short tenure here in Cincinnati, but also because that season

Starting point is 00:19:45 meant nothing for the Reds. And so we could at least have that. There was at least a memory that summer of something awesome happening. As much as Ellie Deli-Da-Cruz's cycle is a memory, it's still one of those things that it's like, I feel like I will always remember Scooter Jeanette for four home runs. Like I think you could go around Cincinnati and say Scooter Jeanette and most people will go, oh yeah, four homers. Like I think everyone knows that. Do you what's really interesting though? And I may be using interesting in a very loose term here.

Starting point is 00:20:17 But, you know, Kyle Swarber is a big huge slugger. And it doesn't stun you that he's in the four. Nick Kurtz, maybe not as prodigious. but you look at some of the names on there. Suarez with the D-Backs, J.D. Martinez, with the hour and a half he played for the D-Backs, Scooter Jeanette, Mark Whitten. You know, I mean, you have Delgado and Hamilton

Starting point is 00:20:38 and were solid ones. Mike Cameron. I'm not doing this by memory. I'm scrolling. Mike Schmidt, Hall of Famer, Willie Mays, Joe Adcock, but, you know, Pat Siri. But you don't have Babe Ruth. You don't have Henry Aaron.

Starting point is 00:20:54 You don't have A-Rod. You don't have Consum. Seiko. You don't have McGuire. You don't have Harmon Killebrew. You don't have, you know, some of the great, you know, Mickey Mantle, Ricky Jackson, you know, Bonds is not on there. You know, it's, you know, Jim Tomey isn't on there. Albert Pujols isn't on there. And so there's a certain almost randomness. I mean, I just list, I just riled off there amongst the, you know, the top 10 of whole, top 10, 20 home run hitters of all time. The only ones who showed up would be probably Mays and Schmidt.

Starting point is 00:21:29 And so it's some of the people who were on there. You know, Chuck Klein played in the Baker Bowl where the right field fence was four feet away from home plate and he hit a lot of home runs. But when he hit his four home run game, it was on the road at Forbes Field, which is a much harder field to hit home runs. It's, there's so random.

Starting point is 00:21:46 Yes, Lou Gehrick is one that you, it doesn't stun you. But, you know, the legendary Pat Siri. I don't even think the Siri family remembers Pat Siri. You know who he did this? It's going to change my mind because Travis Hafner has an inside or has a, has it for a cycle. So Travis Hafner hitting for the cycle

Starting point is 00:22:06 proves that might be a little. Nolan Arnato. Ingen of the school in 2020. One of the slowest people on the planet and he pulled it off. Bench and run the stuff too with with a Mark Whitten story too. Mark Whiton, my own memory of Mark Whitton,

Starting point is 00:22:19 is him pitching to Sally's point for the Indians against the Oakland Athletics. I was a lot of stay up late and watch that game. So that was my a whole wrap around for Mark Whitten. I was watching a game where the Red Sox were playing the Rangers in 2010. And the Benji Molina, who is about as fast as a brontosaurus. And he was, you know, he had single, doubled, and Homer.

Starting point is 00:22:44 And Orsillo had said, well, he's only a triple from the cycle. And they laughed. And he hit one to straightaway center. And it ricocheted away from the center fielder for the Red Sox. and chugga chunga chunga chunga junga benjima got the freaking cycle um that you know that's just there is that element of luck there and and it makes it fun that's one of the things i love about baseball is the unpredictability of it as it's like it drives me crazy about the people who try to you know deal only in predictive stats and you're in your lane you're in lane baseball's

Starting point is 00:23:18 unpredictability and randomness is one of the charms of the game that you know that bonds ruth conseco mackie mackle henry aaron are not in the four home run game uh conversation but nick kurt scooter genet and eugenio suarez are right yeah and i that's what you gotta love this game and also the question is now sally with all this being said who do you hate because we're going to get that answer next we all need help monitoring our finances because quite frankly, too many of us are just financially surviving. Monarch Money wants to help us all financially thrive. You got to check out Monarch money today because they put all of your accounts in one place, whether it be your debit accounts, your credit accounts,

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Starting point is 00:25:17 All right. He's wearing a Mariners shirt. I know here recently, Sully has talked about his, his just undying disdain for Cleveland Guardians. And The San Diego Padres and the Miami Marlins. Oh, wait a bit, but the A's. The A's, I hate the A's organization. I hate the A's stadium. I think the Washington Nationals were in there. Oh, God.

Starting point is 00:25:42 So where are we at today? Where are we at? Okay, according to the listeners, I hate the Seattle Mariners. By the way, I'm wearing a Seattle Mariners jersey right now. Can Griffey Jr. might be one of my, if not my favorite player of all time. I loved those pre-Griffy teams, the Jim Presley, Alvin Davis, you know, Danny Tartable, Phil Bradley, Mickey Brantley, Ken Phelps, and they flipped him for Jay Buehner. I heard that on an episode of Seinfeld. They could never line up a good Mike Moore season with a good Mark Langston season.

Starting point is 00:26:17 They brought in Dick Williams thinking that he is the Johnny Appleseed of Penance and he's going to bring it to the Pacific Northwest. Oh, some of my all-time favorite memories and favorite teams of all. time have been in Seattle and go coogues. I have a master's degree from Washington State University. So naturally I have, and I've done three whole episodes of why it would be good for baseball for the Mariners to win the pennants. So naturally, I have nothing but bile and vitrioles for the team in the Emerald City. That's what I have because I had the audacity, the temerity, and quite frankly, the dishonesty to say that I believe that Aaron Judge is probably going to win the American League MVP.

Starting point is 00:27:00 Now, the reason I said that, that then again, obviously, as someone said, yawn, this guy knows nothing about baseball, clearly. That's why I got the job. But if you take a look at Judge as of this recording, you know, he has his 41 home runs and 95 runs bad at it in if you like stats like that. If you like old-fashioned stats, he scored the most. runs has the highest batting average most total bases if you're more into the war situation he leads the league in war if you like on base he's the highest on base percentage highest on base percentage

Starting point is 00:27:35 highest leg percentage lead the league in walks do you like OPS plus he leads in that R-O-B-A R-B-A-T I couldn't tell you what those are if you offered me $10 billion but he leads the league in them and they they lost badly the two-extent he was on the injured list now he's been injured and he's been in the last 20 games he's not been very good he's he's you You know, he's had a sluggy percentage under 500 and his on-based percentage has dipped. He's only had four home runs in that span. And, of course, Raleigh has having a wonderful year. He could wind up hitting 60 home runs, you know, and is a tremendously gifted defensive catcher.

Starting point is 00:28:18 And the Mariners are playing really well. And I think it's going to come down to what happens in this September. I don't think I'm out of my depth to think that as of this, it's not like I just, I picked, I'm not saying Anthony Volpe should win the MVP, you know? I'm sorry, you know. Does Aaron Judge catch and do we talk about his butt often enough?

Starting point is 00:28:48 No, no, we don't. We don't. And for that, there might be some that do. And I have to say, all the rise. But at the time, you know, look, it is, the amazing first half that the judge had, if you told me that anybody was going to sneak into this conversation, especially when you consider for the majority of this,

Starting point is 00:29:07 you know, they don't have Soto and Stanton didn't play the first half of the season. And sometimes the fifth batter in the lineup was the 14th caller on WFAN. I mean, and you had, you know, six, seven, eight, nine in the Yankee batting order for a big part of this team, looked like it was a split squad spring training game. And you have Aaron Boone managing the team. Sometimes I'm not convinced he's actually watching the game as he's the manager.

Starting point is 00:29:35 All that put together, he's still putting in there an amazing season. And I think he's right now at that Mike Trout, he's the MVP until proven otherwise. Someone said this is his typical East Coast bias, as I've been a resident of the state of California for decades now. So, and also East Coast bias on the MVP vote, the last 15 MVP votes, seven of them went to the AL West. Well, I think that that's the key part for Aaron Judge is that if you take him out of the Yankees' lineup, I don't think the Yankees are a playoff team. And most valuable player to their team is Aaron Judge.

Starting point is 00:30:16 But you can make the case of Raleigh with the, he's the tremendous, what he does to the team. I think they're one and two, and I think it really depends. If Judge has a tailspin or if he gets hurt and doesn't play much in September and Raleigh continues to put up 50, close closer to 60, then I think you have a case. I think it's going to be decided in September. But I don't think I'm, I don't think that me saying that right now the leader in the clubhouse is Aaron Judge

Starting point is 00:30:46 means that I look upon the beautiful state of Washington, which, by the way, I go to Zillow. every hour on the hour looking for a place in Spokane, because I love me, my Spokane. And I would love to be the host of Lockdown Spokane Indians. Don't really put me on that show, David Locke. But the fact of the matter is, I hate the Mariners, because clearly my love for the Yankees, native New Englander,

Starting point is 00:31:18 appeared on HBO trashing the Yankees, clearly loves Aaron George so much, so much. I don't know if he doesn't look convinced. I'm more of like, I wonder if there'll be, because I like always testing Sully's knowledge, so it's always fun for me. So could we- I don't know anything about baseball according to one of the listeners there.

Starting point is 00:31:41 Co-co, you have a steel trap for a memory. It's amazing. So co-MBPs, could that be something? Would that be a solution to the problem? I know everybody wants one, Could you go co? Have we had a guy? I know we've had Coach Sy Young Award winners before.

Starting point is 00:31:56 And I know that Barbara Streisand and Catherine Hepburn both won the best actress Oscar in 1968. Is Peter Manning and somebody win a co- MVP in the NFL one year? I'm talking about Barbara Streisand and Catherine Hepburn. One time. Don't interrupt me when I'm talking about. Keith Hernandez. Oh, that's right.

Starting point is 00:32:18 I should know that. That's the We are family. We are family pirate. That's right. 1979. That's right. I'm on board with either or winning it. I just think that being a catcher and being back there behind the plate

Starting point is 00:32:33 and having to handle an entire pitching staff and worry about what the other team is doing is a little more difficult than that would be my argument for voting. That would be my argument for voting. That's a totally valid one. And I have no problem. I would have no problem. I have what I call the Cohen Brothers rule. and that is if you've already won multiple awards,

Starting point is 00:32:53 I can't cry if you don't pad your resume with more awards. Aaron Judge has won two MVPs already. You know, just like the Colin brothers have won four Oscars each. So I can't cry. Like, oh, they should have won for Miller's Crossing and for and for, oh, and for inside Luan Davis. Well, yeah, but they have four Oscars each. He can relax.

Starting point is 00:33:13 And Aaron Judge already is two MVP, so. Who do you take us away? He is not, Cal Raleigh is just not a catcher. platinum glove. So you have literally right now the best defensive player in all of baseball and the second best offensive player in all of baseball. I mean, it's close.

Starting point is 00:33:30 It is. But you don't, yeah. I don't know if it comes down to September. Like Earthwind and Fire, it's going to come down to September. September. Yep, exactly. You remember? Timely references for me. I brought up the

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