Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - M's Fans Think They Can Get Kyle Hendricks For What Now?!

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode react to several Mariners trade proposals made on BaseballTradeValues.com, including more weird Mitch Haniger deals, a ridiculously low offer for Kyle Hendricks and a trade that actually makes sense for both the M's and Rays.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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terrifying depths of baseball trade values dot com and has put together some of the most ridiculous mariners trade proposals he could find and hey who knows maybe there's an interesting one or two that snuck on through. But as per usual, I haven't seen any of these trades myself. So, listener, you and I will be reacting to these together. And if you like what you hear, give the show a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this. We greatly appreciate it. So, Colby, what do you have for me this week? Well, it's kind of a iffy week in terms of not too many of the overly ridiculous, but we do have some, let's call it. Let's call them puzzlers

to talk about. And there are actually a few decent trades that do merit some consideration. So kind of a nice mix here today. So I guess we'll just go ahead and we'll dive on in. Let's start with an interesting one here

for a player that you and I have talked about as a potential trade target, at least on Control the Zone podcast. Chris Paddock. to the Seattle Mariners for Anthony Mischiewicz, Drew Steckenrider, and Taylor Tramel. That's not going to get it done. What's funny about this one is that even baseball trade values is like, nah, the Mariners are getting too much. Or the Padres aren't getting enough.

And they're still like, nope, this is good. And by the way, the Padres want to reacquire Taylor Trammel? Probably not. Yeah, probably not. I mean Yeah, you're trying to trade like I mean like Steck and Ryder helps the Padres

Mischovits helps the Padres But for Chris Paddock Come on And like you add Taylor Trammell onto that A player that they've already traded A player that struggled Not just at the Major League level But also in his second stint in AAA

And yeah That's just for for a young pitcher That has shown flashes of being pretty darn good. I just, that's not anywhere near, you know, in the same ballpark, really for Paddock compensation. Paddock is, you know, obviously he had the, the UCL issue towards the end of the year, which is a little bit concerning. It's not a tear.

It's not going to require surgery as far as we know. But even then, you're not going to be able to get him for what is pretty much. much scraps to the mariner's. That's what Mischavitt's Steckin Rider and Tramel pretty much are. I mean, that might be a little unfair to Steck and Ryder

especially after posting the year that he did out of the bullpen, one and a half one season out of the bullpen. That's nothing to scoff at. But still, when you compare that to a pitcher like Chris Paddock, even in the position that the Padres are in, that's nothing.

Just nothing. Yep, I would agree with that. Side note here, we do have another Chris Paddock trade. That might be more up your alley here. So although baseball trade values has this the other way. The Mariners giving up too much for Paddock. So Mariners get Chris Paddock. The Padres get Zach DeLoch, Justin Dunn, Levi Stout, and Juan Tane.

If that's what it took to get Chris Paddock, I would absolutely do that. Yeah. I think it might cost a bigger like Headlines Yeah I mean what does done really give them And baseball trade values is really high on done They give him a 7.3

That's ridiculous Yeah No offense to Justin Dunn but I mean just Where he's been with the injuries And the walking issues That's just he's not that valuable No I like him

I still think he might be a starter He definitely was on the right track this year, but like you said, the injuries and and all that. But so like you probably, I can't imagine the Padres are all that interested in him anyways. So you probably just take him out.

And if it's Deloche, Stout, and Wantain for Paddock, I think that, I think you'd have to strongly consider that, right? I mean, I like Deloche. I like Stout. But, you know, Paddock has upside. And that's going to cost you.

So, yeah, he has upside he put you know in the in the Padres need pitching right now because they have a lot of guys with injury concern so they need that depth and uh you know they just they have a lot of inconsistency woes they have a lot of injury stuff that that's in that rotation right now so um yeah they paddock is very valuable to the Padre still even with some of his own injury concerns and everything and the and the fact that he hasn't necessarily reached his ceiling yet after what two full seasons now yep um still i just that's a young controllable piece is he are eligible yet i can't remember off the top of my head i think he is but yeah even then he's not going to be making that much money he's a i mean

the the the upside is there where you know at any given point he's probably going to pitch at a number three level at least at some point in his career and it feels like that and he's going to pop to that level at some point so you know if i'm the padre's looking at that, I don't know. I'm probably asking for something pretty, well, and also, if I'm the Padres, I'm probably not asking for prospects straight up, right? And we've talked about Kyle Lewis. Might make some sense.

I feel like they probably want Mitch Hanigar, which doesn't really make sense for Seattle. Paddock is going to be 26th in January. He's Rube eligible for the first time. He still has all of his minor league options. and he was actually better than his numbers would indicate. I mean, the 507 ERA, but he did have a 378 PIP. So, yeah, there's definitely more there in Paddock.

So it's a good target. But I think, you know, I think pitching is going to be very expensive this year. So whatever you think is fair for pitching, you should probably add 10 to 20%. Yeah. And just understand that that's probably the reality of what it's going to be like to acquire a pitcher. So what else do you have for me? Well, I know you're a huge fan of Mitch Hanager trades, so I have one here. Oh, boy.

The Mariners and the Reds, a very common trade partner for Hanager. We see this a lot. And I'm going to assume that this does not bring Sunny Gray or Tyler Malley or Luis Castillo back. Oh, Ty. No, don't be silly. It brings back prospects in a fairly worthless major leaguer. So we have Mitch Hanigur and you say Kikuchi for Shogo Akiyama

Of course Ellie de la Cruz By the way, real quick, before you finish this trade Shogo Akiama is becoming the Clint Fraser Miguel And Duhar of this off season Just Every trade proposal with the Reds is just like We're going to dump off Shogo Akiama's contract

Yeah, and it's like you want to bet. Anyway, so. Anyway, finish the trade. Akiama, Ellie de la Cruz, and Matthew Nelson, the catcher who was just drafted this year,

from Florida State. Wow. For Hanager and Kikuchi. Yes, the Mariners who just won 90 games are very interested in a catcher who was just drafted. Yes.

Also like a 20-year-old infield prospect who has to go on the 40-man roster this year, and I think has only played at Advanced A-ball. like yes what are we doing the the mariners

the the the parents are just you know they're in a position to give 40 man roster spots to high A players great

yeah this website is something else it starts with the valuation the valuations and it also includes the the valuations that the people take the evaluations and they're trying to make

the trades as equal as possible with total value instead of focus on do these trades actually makes sense. So yeah, use it your own risk, but it does it does create some laughs. All right, we'll look at more trades in just a moment, but real quick, want to remind you this episode of Lockdown Mariners

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listen to either email us or uh check us out on twitter at l0 underscore mariners you can email us at locked on mariners at gmail dot com you can also send us questions for our mailbag mondays on there and all that good stuff so colby let's continue with these trades What other magnificent pile of crap do you have to present to me? Okay. Because you ask for as many Hanager trades as I can give you. Here's one. Clearly.

Emerson Hancock and Mitch Hanager to the Guardians for Stephen Kwan, Oscar Mercado, and Zach Plesec. What? What? What? there you go yeah do I even have to respond to this one I mean

you probably should what's what's the problem was giving up top 50 prospect emerson Hancock and you know 120 WRC plus Mitch Anager for Stephen Kwan do you know what position he plays I have no idea who Stephen Kwan is

I'm gonna be real with you I'm pretty sure he's an outfielder who is drafted in like the fifth by Oregon State. But I'm going to do us both a favor and look that up. Why don't you tell people why you, why don't you go ahead and tell people why you hate Zach Plessack so much? I mean,

like I don't hate Zach Plesack, but it's just, he's just not that exciting. I think he's overvalued. I think he's basically a glorified Mike Leak. He's a pitch to contact pitcher. He doesn't miss bats. Like he's just,

he's fine. He's like a number four. I've seen him pitch in person twice. He's just not super exciting. I've seen him pitch against the Mariners. Just not super exciting. It just doesn't miss a ton of bats. And the Mariners need pitchers who can miss bats.

And why would they trade Mitch Hanager for Zach Plesack? I mean, you should just go sign Tyler Anderson and get pretty close to the same. Yeah, you literally have, like your whole rotation is basically built on guys like Zach Plesack, aside from Logan Gilbert. Right. I mean, it's like acquiring Chris Flexen. And by the way, the problem with Kwan, I was right, fifth round pick out of Oregon State. The problem with him is that, A, he's Rule 5 eligible.

So you got to put him on your 40 man or you might lose him. He does, he has experience in AAA. So there's a decent chance he gets taken. He walks and he doesn't strike out. He's kind of a slap hitter. There has been power, you know, a double A and AAA this year he's shown. But he's really viewed as kind of a slap hitting fourth outfielder who really isn't even much of a base stealer. So I'm such in a trend here, right?

This guy is Rule 5 eligible, as you said. Yep. It just kind of feels like, you know, with the Dela Cruz one and the Reds trade. And now Kwan. Do people think that like the Mariners just want to take on their Rule 5 eligible guys and help them free up a 40-man spot? for one of their best players. They don't care. That's kind of the point.

The Mariners are just a dumping ground for players that other teams don't want. Exactly. But they have to give up the players that they really want. Yes. Yes. So that's a fun one. I mean, yeah. How about we actually move over to a one that's pretty interesting and it's funny because it is getting downvoted like crazy.

but I think it actually makes some sense here. The Mariners trade, Kyle Lewis. They receive Matt Chapman. Hmm. Yeah. Two years of Chapman. Four of Lewis. Four of Lewis.

Mm-hmm. Athletics thinking about rebuilding. The Mariners need a third baseman. I would be interested to know, and there's obviously no way for us to tell, but I'd be interested to know who is downvoting this trade. Is it Ace fans? Is it Mariners fans?

It's interesting. The athletic side has... If you're listening to the show, sorry, real quick. If you're listening to the show right now, go on Twitter at L.O. underscore Mariners. Let us know if you would upvote this trade

or downvote this trade. One for one swap, Powell Lewis for Matt Chappin. Let us know. Anyway, continue Colby. I'm going to say I certainly wouldn't like downvote it. I don't know if I'd upvote it, but they're like, I wouldn't, like, this came in on our, uh, our, uh, you know, uh, Fanfiction Friday.

Thank you. I was trying. This came in on fan fiction Friday. I'd probably give it like a 55, 60. Like, it's very creative. Um, it's, you know, it addresses needs on both sides. It's, it's, I think it's a solid trade. Um, it's work noted that it has, the athletic side has one upboat and six down votes. And the Mariners side has two upboats and seven downboats.

not popular with either fan base apparently, but I actually think that's a pretty decent trade. Certainly a fun one. The interesting thing there is, would the athletics be willing to assume all that risk on Lewis's knee for one of their better major league assets? Aren't the Mariners kind of assuming

the health of Matt Chapman's hip? that's true too and that's a good point and Chapman hasn't been very good at the plate the last couple of years so there's some concern there right I mean yeah Matt Chapman is still a good player I mean don't get me wrong but

I mean but he's not 2018 Matt Chapman anymore no I mean you put up 3.4 and that's what I've talked about with you both on this show and just you know in our normal conversation is that my biggest concern with Chapman is that the A's are going to want to price him as 2018 Matt Chapman.

Yeah. You know, that's probably a little start. That's probably a little bit of P candidate type of player. And that's just not what he's worth now. No, he's still a really good player, but he strikes out a lot now.

You know, and a lot of his value is he doesn't walk. I mean, 314 on base is below league average. 210 on 210 batting average. That's below league average, 4.03 slugging. I think that's right at about league average.

His WRC plus was 101. So he's a league average bat who's basically his entire value is buoyed by his great defense. And then defense has value, but it can only carry you so far, really, right? I mean. Yeah. And I don't want to trade big assets for a glove. Right. He has to hit.

And I mean, if you're getting 210, 314, 403, I mean, that's basically what Seeger did this year. Right. I mean, it's a little bit better on base, but it's worse in the slugging. And the defense is better. Certainly it's better. But you're losing on the power. You're losing on the, I mean, the average is fine. Is about a wash?

And you're getting a guy who strikes out a lot more than Seeger did. So is Chapman a significant upgrade from Seeger? I think, is it a guarantee that he is? No. So there's risk there with both players. So I think that trade actually makes sense. So what else? What else do we got?

Okay, well, um, here's a, here's an interesting one, um, that I think you'll get a chuckle out of. Uh, Kyle Hendrix to the Mariners.

Okay. Fun. For wanton, straight up. Oh boy. Oh no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Here's, here's a scary thing about this. Uh-huh. This trade on the mariner side has three up votes and four down votes. I'm sorry. And the

the cup side, the ratio is two up votes to four down votes. So, what? Is someone upvoted that? Yeah. I mean. Has to be a Mariner fan

undercover. You would think. Oh, man. That's somebody made a bunch of accounts. Right. Let me, let me say this real quick. One 10,

not have the trade value that you think he does anymore. The guy had a terrible year and he's probably like he probably confirmed that he's nothing more than a reliever this year. Yeah. We'll see. But it seems like that's that's where we're

heading here with this. He's not top 15 prospect 1.10. That's not who this guy is right now. No. And he's a DFA candidate. Yeah. And, well, and a great point there because another thing that's going to drive his value down, he counts against your 40-man roster.

Yeah. Team they're not going to want to trade for that. No. At least they're not going to trade Kyle Hendricks for that. And like, I know that Hendricks had a down year, but Hendricks is a very good bounce-back candidate. Oh, no. I mean, Hendricks definitely sucks, but. no he is a very good bounce back candidate and you're just like if you're the cubs and the best you can get is wanton you just keep them i mean there's no reason you don't have to trade them like you're the cubs you can afford to carry his salary and and you're going to get more for him i mean some team would beat wantane for for for hendricks but the baroners can easily beat one

right i mean start talking about like brandon williamson and then we can start talking but like want tain i that's that's wishful thinking i think um and the funny thing is is that once again baseball trade values has the cubs getting absolutely like

destroyed in this trade cubs get 4.9 value the mariners only get 1.6 so there you go oh boy all right coming up we're going to mercilessly drags more trades on baseball trade values.com. All right, we got time for a few more

trades here, Colby. So you got anything that even matches that, uh, whatever the hell that Kyle Hendricks proposal was? I think I have an interesting one here. Um, maybe not quite as as I mean, it's not good. It's not

good. But, you gave me hope when you said interesting. Well, I mean, you'll be the judge here. So Mariners get sunny gray and there we go and some guy named Ivan Johnson I don't know who that is

they give up and here's the fun part Cal Raleigh Drew Steckenrider and Taylor Tramel back to the Reds yeah it's the biggest thing here is that it seems that the Reds won outfield

help right and if they're going to trade sunny Gray I would assume Kyle Lewis is probably going to have to be in that deal. Yep. Right. So that's kind of the biggest flaw with this. Drew's second rider, after a good year, does have value.

He has control, not just this year, but next year as well. So he is valuable, and he is valuable to a team like the Reds, but as like a secondary piece to the Reds for in a sunny gray deal? No, no, no, no. no maybe on the back end of that but no not as a secondary piece for for Sunny Gray and Cal Raleigh being the headliner after the year that he just had

half year that he just had at the major league level no because he shouldn't he shouldn't be on the major league roster right away right we talked about this on yesterday's show so that doesn't help the Reds they could still keep Tucker Barnard if they want to he has a club option not sure if they're planning on doing that or not,

but they can do that. So it's not like they're really in desperate need for catching help. They also have Tyler Stevenson. And then Taylor Tremel, who again, we talked about this earlier, struggled in his major league debut, struggled in his second stand at AAA,

has already been in the Reds organization before and been traded by them. And again, they need outfield help, but they need established outfield help, especially if they're going to lose Cassiano's. So, yeah. I just for for sunny gray because like here's a thing the reds are in a position where they're still going to want to compete but they are willing to it seems like they're going to be willing to listen on offers for their starting pitchers and might be willing to move at least one of them sure but they're going to want something back that's going to help them next year and none of these pieces really I mean like stack and rider does but on a very minimal scale compared to what they're losing and gray and obviously gray kind of had a down year relative to his standard, but

I just the second rider pales in comparison to the value that Gray brings the Reds. Yeah. I think that's probably fair. I have a hard time imagining

you getting Sunny Gray without you trading you know, Mitch Hanigur or Lewis or yeah, probably Lewis. Toro maybe, but they have Jonathan India. Yeah. I mean,

Suarez sounds like they might be willing to move Suarez too. But I think if you're going to offer like Lewis and Steckenrider, then maybe you can start a conversation. But I just, Cal Raleigh is valuable because he's a catcher. And we think he's going to be a good one. And finding catching is really hard. But is he valuable enough to be a lead piece to a contender for one of their best pitchers?

No. I feel like if the Mariners are going to get Sunny Gray, they might need a three-team deal. Yep. They might need another team that can pitch in something that they're not able to give Cincinnati, which is Major League Outfield help. And maybe also a team that's willing to take on a Shogo Akiyama contract or Ewanioswara's contract. Right. So, yeah, I just... And the Mariners aren't

capable of doing either, really. Like, that's why I just kind of scoff at these Akiama deals because the Mariners are going to have to carry Akiama. And, like, they're not going to want to do that. The guy had a 44 WRC plus. Even if the Reds chip in a ton of money with that or whatever, or if it helps them get Sunny Gray,

they still got to carry that guy. So, they at least have to carry a salary. Because, I mean, they could DFA him, but they're still paying. That's true. Either way. So.

So, yeah, like I said, not the most absurd baseball trade values day. Last week, we kind of had that absurdity. This week, it's mostly just kind of like another Mariners Reds trade. Emerson Hancock and Zach Deloach for Nick Ladolo and Shogo Akiyama again. So I just, why would Seattle do that? that. Basically, they're paying $9 million and Zach DeLoch for what is at best a minor upgrade. And Emerson, Hancock, right? Well, I mean, if you

count, if you think Lidolo is an upgrade over Hancock and I don't know that he is. It's a very minimal upgrade at best. Yeah, I mean, Lidolo has his own problem. So, I just like, you guys have to think about like, hey, why would the Reds do this? Why would the Mariners do this?

Does it make sense for both sides? And if the answer is no, it's probably not going to happen. So, yeah, it's a lot of stuff like that this week. Really not super interesting to be quite honest. I mean, there are a few Brian Reynolds trades that are, I mean, there's something. Let's hear them. Emerson Hancock and Julio Rodriguez for Brian Reynolds and Jacob Stallings. what's the point of Jacob Stallings?

I mean, like, he's a good catcher, but Is he? Yeah, like, I thought he had a bad year. I think he's pretty good. I actually haven't looked up his numbers, so I'm going to look him up over on here. Give me another trade. Well, there is, there's the classic,

Emerson, Hancock, and Julio Rodriguez straight up for Brian Reynolds. Stalyn's had a two and a half one year. Yeah, never mind that. Good player. Mostly for the defense. For usual with catchers. Anyway, what was the trade again?

Just Murphy or sorry, Hancock and Rodriguez for Reynolds straight up. See, the thing about this is that people clearly heard the rumor that the Mariners or that the pirates asked for Julio Rodriguez, and they just think that the pirates just asked for Julio Rodriguez.

It's probably not the case. They asked for Julio Rodriguez plus more. Sure. And it's probably not plus Emerson Hancock. That's just going to get it done. I think they're probably going to want like three pieces back. And Hancock obviously has some issues that are going to be concerning. Yeah.

We have a trade from a pirates fan that is very similar. I'm assuming this pirate's fan because it is, profile name is AJ BUCS BUCS so Hancock, Rodriguez, and Maco for Reynolds.

I mean, that's probably what the Pirates ask for. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think that's probably pretty accurate. And you can see

why the Mariners said, no. Yeah. Like, let me ask you this. Byron, Reynolds, very good player.

Five and a half one player last year, controllable, like, very good player. Very, probably going to be an MVP candidate. in the ale if you had him. But no.

If it was Kelnick instead of Rodriguez, would you do it? Kelnick and Kalk, Macco, for Reynolds? Probably, because I mean, man, you're, I don't know. I mean, but the same argument that I'm making with Julio, well, that's what I was going to say.

And you can make the same argument really with Julio as well, is that you're hoping that either one of those players becomes Brian Reynolds. Yeah. Mostly because the profile is very similar to Reynolds. Right. Yeah.

So again, Reynolds is probably not going anywhere in terms of like us talking about him. But I also kind of think he's not getting traded this winter. But we'll see. You never know. Jerry Depoto is nothing to have not creative. Do you want to end this one,

this episode on what is perhaps the most popular trade on both? sides that I found on baseball trade values today. Yeah, let's go for it. Sure. Okay, so the Mariners get Joey Wendell. Hey, we've talked about him. Okay.

And this got six up votes to three down votes on the Mariners side. The Rays side got six up votes and only one down vote. And the Rays would get Milcar Perez and Connor Phillips. Hmm. At that stage, wouldn't you just go sign Josh Harrison? Yeah. I mean, like, look, I'm not, I'm not, I hope I'm trying to. Like, like, honestly, I would rather pay, you know, $18 million to Chris Taylor at that point, you know.

Like, I'm trying not to overvalue prospects because I don't, I don't want to be, you know, prospect worshipping. Yeah. I just really like Connor Phillips. I really think he can do some special things, uh, with the Mariners. And also, Milcar is a guy that's on the rise. Yeah, no, he's a solid prospect. It's just, you know, and I'm very interested to see what he does once he gets more into, you know, once he gets into high A and stuff. Yeah, I just, I feel like he's like four years away.

Yeah. But it's just like for Joey Wendell, I mean, like, he's good, but it's just, it's not sexy. That's not who I want to like, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like, it's probably fair. It's probably fair. Yeah. but it's just it's not I'm not super excited about it sure you know yeah am I going to cry about it if I saw that happen no like that's cool like joey wendell's a good player the Mariners got better by doing yeah but yeah I just not like I'm not jumping for joy though no because Connor Phillips is an ace of the future and milcar is yes front note here milcar bores milcar bores milcarraise is Jose Ramirez yes um

it's worth Milcar Perez had one more walk or one more walk than he did strikeout this year in about 200 and 220 at bats and that was

that was low way most of the year 45 games in the Complex League and then six games at A ball Modesto so handled himself pretty well all things considered

first, you know, pro baseball since 2019. And he was good, it's a good player. He's a good prospect. A lot of work to do, but he's not like a throw-in, I don't think, unless it's to like sunny gray, you know, like somebody that good. I mean, plus a lot of folks that are doing their, their re-ranks now of the Mariners farm, they look at Milkar-Perez's top 15 guy.

Yeah, he's probably. I think Phillips is too. Yeah, no, Phillips is arguably a top 10 guy. A lot of upside with those two guys. He's in that 8 to 10 range, I think. Right. But I think this is the type of trade you could see. A couple of upside plays who are a few years away

for just a boring but established and good major leager. I think you could see a trade like this happen. Yeah. Also, Phillips is very Tampa Bay-E. Yeah. And I believe they were, I believe I read something back when he was drafted that the raise were interested in him. So that would make sense. Yeah.

So that's actually, uh, hey, we actually ended the show on a good trade proposal, even though it's not super exciting. I'm not thrilled by it. But that makes sense. That's like a, that's just a good trade proposal. So, yeah. Hey, baseball's trade values actually came through, came through with the humor and the comedy. and also came through with something actually pretty decently smart.

How about that? So that's going to do it for a show. Thank you so much for joining us here on Lockdown Mariners for Colby Pat Note. I'm Ty Dan Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Mariners. Or yeah, L0 underscore Marers. I forgot if I had said the underscore or not.

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