Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - No More Excuses: The Mariners Are Simply Not Good Enough Right Now

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Ty and Colby vent their frustrations about the Mariners' 1-3 start to their road trip, discuss what specifically is going wrong for Luis Castillo, and how the M's could start experimenting with their roster. Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbyLocked On Podcast Network listener surveySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!5-Hour ENERGYTime to fuel up and turn it up with 5-hour ENERGY®️ Transfusion! Go to https://5hourenergy.com today and use my promo code LOCKEDONGOLF to receive 20% off your order. This offer is only valid until September 30th on one order and cannot be used with other promotions. The code is not good on subscription orders.  Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com!OpenPhoneStreamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at www.openphone.com/lockedonmlbGameday HueLet your colors talk—because colors speak louder than words. Right now, you can get 15% off with code MLB15 at GamedayHue.com. Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Well, that sucked. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Yeah. Oh, boy, sailors. It is Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025. This is Tedding Gonzalez and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.

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This club is now one and three on this video. very, very important road trip against a couple of teams that they have to win games against. And they're just not doing that right now. And it is very, very frustrating. Where do we even begin here, Colby? It's a dealer's choice, I guess. I mean, players taking terrible at bats. You have pitchers just throwing non-competitive pitches.

And that's really the crux of it is that the merri's effort last night was just not competitive. And we can't. We don't dare question the competitive integrity of these professional athletes. We can't do that. So it can't be them. So it's not the players. I'm trying to figure out, is it the travel? Is it the weather?

Is it too hot? Maybe too humid? Is the, they've been held accountable left and right by their manager who definitely has their back. So obviously, Dan isn't the problem either. He was recommended by Lou Penella, don't you know? So it can't be Dan. It can't be the players.

So it's got to be the travel or the. humidity or the heat did they think it was going to rain last night and they were just ready for that rain delay maybe that was it because you know they sure didn't look like they thought the game started at 430 um i so i don't know you know maybe it may the wrong color gatorade perhaps in in maybe they wanted orange and they got yellow instead i hate yellow gatorade so that would make it orange yeah well i mean i don't want that either but i have i have bigger questions about this club of their favorite gatorade is orange Yeah, but either way, there must be something like that, right?

Can't possibly be a player thing, though. Nope, it's got to be the weather or the travel or the heat or the humidity. You know, I think it might rain today. So they probably, you know, well, who they're probably no reason to go to the ballpark. There's a 20% chance of rain. I'll just mentally stay in my hotel room and play Nintendo Switch. Like, maybe that's what it is. Maybe they had to get a new debit card.

and so their Nintendo Switch premium subscription didn't go through. So they have to go and they have to go type all that stuff out again. And, oh, man, it's just so exhausting. It's so exhausting. It's got to be something like that because we know it's not the players. We know it's not their actual effort. It can't be their attitude. It can't be anything the players do.

Like they are beyond criticism. Don't worry. I'm sure they'll have a meeting or something. That'll fix everything because, as we know, the Mariners respect and admire their manager and don't. view him as a doormat that they could walk all over. And you could tell that based on the effort they put out last night. So it can't be the manager.

It can't be the players. It's got to be the, it's got to be the, it's got to be that it was 88 degrees last night. That's, that's what it is. Like, how could a team possibly be expected to win baseball games if it's not below 75 degrees with a slight breeze in August in Seattle? That's the only way, that's the only way any team can win a baseball game. Right. Like nobody can win a baseball game in 88 degrees with 60% humidity. That's insane.

Totally. So it's got to be that. Like Major League Baseball should be ashamed of themselves for not, you know, turning down the temperature of that outdoor stadium last night and, you know, letting the Mariners compete at 75 degrees because, I mean, who would on earth would think they need to win a baseball game when it's 77 in the fourth inning? I mean, oh, could you imagine being dignity? Yeah.

the travel stuff the the the weather stuff the the constant excuses that get thrown around for this club enough of it enough of it especially on the travel front like this organization has been around for half a century they've had the greatest one of the greatest travel disadvantages and all of sports for half a century and obviously that's gotten even worse over the last couple of years with MLB expanding or changing the schedule format where now you play every team et cetera et cetera et cetera but still every single marries ball club since the mid-70s has traveled a ton and over that span of time they have had really good to even great road clubs it is very possible for the seattle maris to be a very good road team this team for whatever reason is not and what we watched last night was embarrassing. You've got 24 games to go and you're on the verge of giving this fan base just at second playoff birth since 2001. Since I was five years old, I'm 29 now.

And yeah, you're going to lose games and you're going to go on slumps because that's just the nature of the sport. But last night was not that. Last night we saw a club that was not. not locked in, which is inexcusable at any point in the season, but especially now with what's on the line. And I'm not even talking about Castillo and what the offense failed to do against Baws. I'm talking about Randy getting picked off in the first. Mitch Garver taking three consecutive called strikes. J.P. Crawford's error. So many lethargic plays and lethargic at

bats and frankly guys just not being 100% locked in and as someone who has spent almost every year of my entire life wishing the barons would find themselves in the position that they're in right now i find that insulting and look when when things go wrong you know it's it's easy for fans to call out effort and a lot of the time you know it's misguided and frankly inappropriate because for as much time and care as we put into these teams as fans you know the people in that clubhouse they're living it so they obviously care i'm not saying they don't but last night was not their best effort i think that's pretty safe to say i think that's a very reasonable thing to say if you actually watch the game and i watched unfortunately all nine endings of it last night and a clear lack of energy with this club.

And I think a lot of that starts with, frankly, the hyper positive approach of this club where it's like, hey, don't worry about it. We'll get them tomorrow, which works in May, in June,

in July. But you're getting to the point now where there might not be a tomorrow. And there are nothing but sharks on the water in October. And you need to be one. of them right like you need to have that killer instinct because we can all smell the blood of the astros and the royals and if you don't find that killer instinct even if you make it in october you're going to get smoked sorry to say you're going to get smoked if you don't have that

killer instinct in october and you know look to your point colby i don't care how positive the the clubhouse and those around the club every day want to try and keep things. It's about time someone gives this club the real. And that is, you're not an accomplished organization. Okay. You're the Seattle Mariners. You're the only franchise in this entire league that's never made it to the world series.

And you've been around for basically half a century. Sorry to say, you don't get the benefit of the doubt. all right and yeah the you know real quick just to be fair here the people that make up this specific group especially the players have nothing to do with the majority of those failures i totally get that but you you know what a good chunk of them have been a part of getting swept in the a lDS blowing a great opportunity to win the division in twenty twenty three blowing a ten game lead in 2024.

Those wounds are still very fresh for me as a fan and also as someone who covers this team every single day. And in those moments, as they were happening, as, you know, I watched the Rangers celebrate getting to, you know, the playoffs on your field in 2023. I wanted nothing more than to see this team get back there and redeem themselves. And now we're here, right? now we're here. And seeing performances like last night,

knowing damn well what the situation is and what the consequences are, I felt embarrassed. And I hope they do too. And frankly, some of us need to stop bending over backwards to make excuses for this club while acting like the fans who've been there and done that and have 40 some odd t-shirts to show for it are the problem. It shouldn't be a hot take or, you know,

viewed as some toxic statement to say that we're tired of waiting for a real winner and demand better. And I truly believe this team, even with all the issues they've shown over the last couple of road trips, can be a real winner. I really do. I really believe in this group. But they need to start playing like it. And last night was not it. Last night was unacceptable. All right. So let's switch gears here. Let's talk about Luis Castillo. What specifically is going on with We'll dive into that in just a moment. But first a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Marries podcast is brought to you by both Price Picks and Fandual.

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Pitching out of the stretch has been a problem pretty much since Luis has gotten here, even at his most dominant points in his marriage tenure. He has struggled at times to pitch out of the stretch. So there have always been, you know, some of these issues that we have seen from Luis over the course of this really rough stretch for him. But when you're watching him right now, what is ultimately going awry? I mean, I guess the answer is everything, but more specifically, what are you saying? The frustrating thing about Castillo's, it's the same thing every year. Like, Luis is a guy who does not tinker in the off season, right?

He's not a guy who adds new pitches. He's not a guy who changes his delivery. And he rolls into the regular season. And usually it's pretty good. And for most of this year, pretty good. So, but the pressure or anything about Luis is that we know he's not the same pitcher he was two years ago or three years ago. And we've seen very little

tangible changes. He's not experimenting with new pitches. He's not changing pitch mix all that much. He's not tweaking the delivery at all. There's no visible changes. And yet year after year, we see the same problems. Pitching from the stretch is a problem for him.

We know this. We know his mechanics are out of whack when he starts missing gloves or arm's side badly with fastballs. and usually there's no fix for that in the middle of a start. He never seems to figure that out. And then when he figures that out, oftentimes he ends up missing glove side with his off-speed stuff really badly. And so they're just this like fine tune where you have to be perfect to get, you know, your command to a respectable level. Because what Luis Castillo does not have right now is the stuff to survive with below average command.

He does not have it. So he needs at least average command. And he's never really had like plus command. I would say he's in the past he's had above average control and average command. But because the stuff is so good, he can make mistakes in the middle of the plate and get away with it. He can't do that right now. He can't hit the corners. So if he wants to throw a strike, he has to throw things in the middle of the plate.

And the stuff is not good enough for him to live in the middle of the plate. So right now there is something going on mechanically. he says he's healthy. I don't know if I believe him because we saw down below's last night again. But he says he's healthy. So to me, there's something mechanical going on here. And again, if he's not on the corners, he's a batting practice pitcher. Like we saw it last night, just high ex of Velos.

By the way, he looked really good in the first five hitters. Got the first five guys out, no problem. Stuff looked really good. Command was actually pretty solid. He was on the corners. What happened? Somebody gets on base. goes from the stretch, walk, home run.

Then he gets the next guy out when he's not in the stretch again. So it's one of those. Home run to a guy that had a sub 600 LPS entering last night, by the way. Right. Because he has to throw the fastball in the middle of the plate. Otherwise, he's going to walk guys because he can't hit the corners. So it's the same story. He only goes four again.

Like Luis Castillo, even like forget the fact that he's getting lit up like a Christmas tree for a minute. Every five days, your bullpen is getting. walloped because Luis can only go four innings. You are essentially right now hunting 20% of your games. Just by Luis being on the mound at all, you're guaranteeing a loss more or less right now based on how he's pitching. And I'd love to be like, well, it's only four starts and look at the other 20 starts. He was really solid and you count on them. Cool.

You're not wrong, but also it's September 2nd. I don't care about the other 20. I care about the last four and I care about the next four because those are the eight starts that are going to determine whether or not to get into the playoffs or not. And I can't kick games because this guy can't throw strikes because the only way this guy can not walk every hit or he faces from the stretch is to put it down the middle of the plate. That is the problem. And I think it's fair to question right now if Luis is flexible enough. to make changes that clearly need to be made. And again, it's a tricky situation

because for the first 22, 23 starts, however many it was before the last four, it was good enough. I mean, it wasn't ace-like, but it was number four. Like, it was good, it was solid. Yeah, you were happy. Again, we said so many times

over the course of the season, like, where would this club be right now had they traded Luis in the off-season? So, yeah, I mean, he was really good, for what they ultimately needed over the course of most of this year. And right now, if we had to grade Luis's season as a whole, I would still give him a fairly positive grade. But the deeper this rough stretch goes,

the more bitter of a taste I'm going to have in my mouth about his season as a whole. Yeah. So, yeah, it's just straight. I mean, like the way to classify it really is just, non-competitive. He was non-competitive last night. He was non-competitive in Philadelphia. He was non-competitive in New York.

That's just not going to get it done, especially from your vet. And, you know, Jake Mangum getting on with an infield single shouldn't completely derail things, especially against your vet. But that's exactly what happened yesterday. Mangum gets on. He steals a base. Cassio, what, he walks, Palacio, some four pitches or five pitches. And then boom, three run home run to again, a guy that had a sub 600 OPS entering last night's game, a guy that had hit three home runs all year long entering last night's game.

He's a four-a-catcher. Yeah. Yeah, that guy is only in the major leagues because he's a great defender. Nick Fortez, he's a fantastic defender. He's one of the best defensive catchers in the game. He's not known for his bat. And literally last night, I was saying just, you know, before or during the Palacios said that, I was like just walk Pelosios and go after Fortez because like he can't hit.

And then boom, three round ball. Fortunately right now, Luis Castillo can't pitch. So yesterday on the Patreon, uh, you talked a little bit about wanting to see, uh,

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that could come up in October, assuming that they get there, of course. Also, you know, trying some guys out like you know playing harry ford talking about like how much playing time you know kind of like what we talked about on yesterday's episode of locked on like how much playing time do you give harry ford all that like figuring out like who can hang uh how do you deploy these guys what's the best way to optimize this roster but more specifically what's the best way to optimize this bullpen and preparing for situations in october like hey it's game two of the al ds and it's three to two mariners but the hard of the Blue Jays order or whatever is coming up. It's Bichette and Guerrero, et cetera. Let's go to Munoz now. Right? And Munoz,

how many times has Munoz pitched all of the ninth inning outside of the ninth inning this year? I think once he has one four out, say maybe twice. Yeah. I mean, he's probably pitched a couple times in extras, but that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like before the ninth inning. So, yeah, so doing that a little bit.

bit getting him out of his comfort zone, but it's a balance enact, right? Because like you also need to win these games, right? You need to put yourself in the best position to succeed in these games. So you don't want to get too cute with things. Sure, but also you're entering a stage right now where you're basically already in the playoffs. Yeah. And that's because you've lost 12 of your last 19 to put yourself in a position where you basically are in a month-long playoff stretch now, more or less. So you might not have a choice anyways, but yeah, there's definitely, you know, you don't want to necessarily, you know, just use Munoz in every single high leverage spot for the month. Whereas in, you know, in October, you can do that because there's built in off days and whatnot. So it's easier. So yeah, I think, you know, it's one of those things where I think you do want to get, though, Munoz, you know, get him used to be like, hey, it's the seventh warm up. We're going to use. We're going to use. you here to get, you know, regardless of the situation almost, like, hey, we've got, like, let's say it's Mookie Betts and it's Freddie Freeman in late September.

And it's like, oh, well, you know, we're up six to one, all right, in the sixth or in the seventh or whatever. But let's get Munoz, no matter what, you're facing bets. Like, I don't care what the situation is. You're facing Mookie Bets. And then you're going to come, you're going to sit down in the dugout. And then you're going to go back out there and you're going to face Freddie Freeman and show A Otani. Right.

Because we need you in that mode where it's like you're going to come put out the fire in the sixth. And then you're going to have to go pitch the seventh because that's a situation that might come up in, you know, in October. And if you haven't done it all year, it can be difficult. Like you're so, when you get so used to your one role. And this is when you get ready. This is when you go out to the bullpen. This is when you know this pocket is coming up. up and you know you're not going to pitch unless we have the lead in the ninth so don't

even worry about all that and then you go from by the way we need you to pitch the sixth i know you don't normally go out to the bullpen until the fifth anyways but get out there we need you to throw and we need you to get hot really quick and we need you like you have to be ready to put out the fire and munoz for the most part has not been asked to get ready quickly they planned and okay he's probably going to pitch the night so you could start your slow warm up and all you got to go Like in the postseason, you have to go. You have to get ready in a hitter's notice more or less. And you haven't done it all year.

It can be tough. It can be, you know, jarring to the body, to the arm, to the mind to just be like, oh, by the way, we need you now. And I know you normally get 10 minutes to warm up. We need you to be hot in two minutes because we got to, we have to have you face Yordon Alvarez or whatever. And it's not just Munoz, it's a little more Munoz than other guys because his role has been so defined as just the ninth.

But like, you gave Spire to be ready to get, you know, able to get ready in, in a one hitter stretch. And you need bizardo and, like these guys, Prash,

you have to get these guys out of innings-based roles and get them in the mindset of situational roles that may have occurred in the fifth inning or may occur in the 12th inning. You have to have them ready for that. And I don't think that's something you want to do for the first time in a couple of years. in, you know, game two of the ALDS.

I don't think that's a good time to spring that on somebody. So kind of maneuvering the bullpen a little bit, managing the bullpen as you always should manage it, but whatever. I think you need to start doing that now a little bit here and there just to kind of get guys used to these roles. And it might have the added benefit of you actually winning a couple more games by accident just because, oh, you're actually leveraging the leverage arms in a proper way. boy, wouldn't that be nice? Yeah. So we'll see if they want to make those adjustments. Maybe they still want to wait another week or two, which I guess is fine.

But I think you want to start sprinkling that in now and just kind of get them used to the idea. Like, I think tomorrow is a great day, regardless of score, to have Munoz go out there in like the, in the eighth, get an out and then come back out and pitch the night because you have Thursday off. Well, you definitely should be willing to do it on the next road. trip because those are basically playoff series. Right. Royal series and the Astro series basically playoff series. So there you go.

That's the opportunity right there. But yeah, if you want to start sprinkling and in now in preparation for that, you know, the Braves, the Cardinals, the Angels, those are the next four teams that you're playing. Those are all great teams to kind of get some practice rounds in for lack of a better term. Yeah.

So, yeah, we'll see. but yeah again you know it's a balance in act right because like you don't want to mess things up too much here and get too cute with things but also you know again like you said you also don't want to ask guys to just suddenly do something that they haven't done before in the highest leverage moment of possibly some of these guys careers right so yeah like for example i would love to see edward brisardo get an actual save opportunity because I think that's something that he might have to do. You just get him used to pitching the ninth.

Like, I think you can find a spot where you have like a two run lead in the ninth. Or like, let's have a two run lead after seven. It's like, hey, let's have Munoz pitch the eighth. Yeah. And then in that situation where we're in the playoffs where, oh, Munoz is going to come in and pitch the eighth because it's, you know, it's Pena, Karea, Yordan, or Al-Tuba, whatever it is, right? He's going to pitch you.

the eighth. Well, that means when it's six, seven, eight. Maybe Munoz would pitch, you know, try and get you six outs, but if not, Bizarro might be the guy you go to because you might have had to already use Gabe Spire to get Yordon out in the fifth. You know, so it's kind of one of those things where you want guys to be comfortable in whatever

situation they're asked to pitch in as comfortable as possible. And it's really hard to get guys to be comfortable in these situations if you've never asked them to do it before now. right the first time you do anything you're probably going to suck at it like you're probably going to have nerves you're probably not going to perform at at your peak so it's kind of one of those things where it's like let's just get you here where there's still leverage spots but they're not the same as you know winner go home in game three of the ALDS situation so we'll see if they want to experiment with stuff like that I think they should I doubt they do

it anytime soon, but I really do think they should, particularly with Munoz, because Bizarro's pitched in the fifth, the sixth, the seventh, the eighth. Munoz is pretty much strictly pitched in the ninth, and he hasn't pitched in a playoff game since, you know, 2022. So like even that is still a relatively new experience for him. All right. Well, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown Marrars podcast.

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