Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - On This Date in 1998...

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

In today's second episode of the "Locked On Mariners" double-header, D.C. looks back at a home run record the Mariners set on this date in 1998. And none of the "usual suspects" were involved in setti...ng this record. Also, D.C. dives into the Friday Mailbag for the first time since Spring Training. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:08 Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. Yeah, thank you very much, Joey Martin, pulling double duty today. I say that as if I'm not, this is the second episode of our Locked-on Maritors double-headed today, and we are still part of the Locked-on Podcast Network. The V gets longer and longer every episode. Please remember to download rate and subscribe to this program on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify Stitcher Radio or whichever podcasting app that you personally care to use.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Ask your smart device to play Lockdown Mariners Podcasts or any of the other wonderful programs here on the Lockdown Podcast Network or T-L-O-P-N-O-P-N-O-T-N-R-N-R-N-R-G, or T-Lop-N-O-P-N-R-N-R-G, for those scoring at home. Oh, this is what happens, I guess, when I record two episodes in one-night It's currently 11.16 p.m. But of course, by the time you're listening to this, it's Friday afternoon already. Or maybe Friday evening, you're listening to this on your way home from work, perhaps. In that case, I hope you had a great day.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Oh, what am I saying? In any case, we're going to talk a little Mariner's history today, ladies and gentlemen. Mariner's actually accomplished something on this date in 1998. Incidentally, not incidentally, because it's my show. Not incidentally, but this mailbag will be the second half of two days show. On this date, however, August 12, 1998, Year of Our Lord,
Starting point is 00:01:41 the Mariners hit three home runs on this day, which, you know, that happened a lot in that era. However, they reached the 200
Starting point is 00:01:50 home run plateau for the season on this day in 1998, and that made them the first team in history to have 200 or more home runs
Starting point is 00:02:00 in three consecutive years. That's an amazing feat. And that's, you know, 1998, 1997, 96 if you want to work backwards. 1995, the Mariners hit 182 home runs, but lest you forget, that was a strike shortened season, 144 games.
Starting point is 00:02:19 If you project that out to 162 games, that's a little over 204 home runs. So that, you know, that kind of cost them a little bit. Incidentally, 1994, they hit 153 home runs, which, and here's what's interesting. Those 153 home runs in 1994 were good for third in the American League, and the 182 that they hit in 1995 also third in the American League. There was something of a power surge going on in 1995 that would be exaggerated in 1996 and then really exaggerated in 1998. In any case, back to this feat that they accomplished on the state in 1998,
Starting point is 00:03:00 the three players to hit home runs for the Mariners this day, Ken Griffey Jr.? No. Alex Rodriguez, no. Edgar Martinez? No. Jay Buehner? No. Dan Wilson? No. Well, then who the hell was it? Guess what, gang? It was Russ Davis, Shane Monaghan and Rob Deucy
Starting point is 00:03:21 who gave the Mariners this record. It's obviously not who you would expect it to be. Russ Davis had some pop, but he was in the middle of a very bad season. Rob Deucey was a very good, fourth outfielder who could give you a few starts a week in left center and right field. Not much of a power hitter. He had some pop. And Shane Monaghan was a rookie.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So the fact that it was those three kind of, you know, that kind of struck me funny. But three consecutive years with 200 or more home runs, you know, that was something back in the day, I suppose. Of course it was since, you know, they set a record. Very impressive to say the least. And we'll talk about this 1998, May. Mariners team. Just a little bit, even though I did a whole episode on him. I don't remember when that was, but it was when things had been shut down. And I did a yearbook series that lasted
Starting point is 00:04:16 three weeks where I went over every single season of the Lou Pinella era. In any case, let's go over some of these home run numbers. For the 1998 Seattle Mariners, Dan Wilson only hit nine, not one of his better offensive seasons, 252. Defense really was his calling card. We know this, ladies and gentlemen. But he was a good offensive catcher. Joey Corr checked in with six home runs. Also had six triples to lead the team, kind of amazing. David Sigi, that was his first year as a mariner. He had replaced Paul Sorrento as the first basement, 19 home runs for him.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Russ Davis did check in with 20. Like I said, he had some pop. 259 batting average and a 442 slugging percentage. So there you go. Glen Allen Hill hit 12 home runs as a mariner before leaving midseason. I believe he was traded to the Cubs. Could be wrong about that. Jay Buehner checked in only with 15.
Starting point is 00:05:01 This was kind of the year that his knees really started to bother him, and he was limited to 72 games. Edgar Martinez almost reached the 30 homerone plateau. 29 of them, to be exact, did drive in over 100 runs, 102 runs, Alex Rodriguez, 42 home runs, and Ken Griffey Jr. with 56 home runs. Rob Deuce, he did hit five home runs in 97 games. Like I said, very good fourth outfielder, played a lot. Shane Monaghan got a lot of playing time towards the end of the season of four home runs for him. 242, 269, 346. slash line was not walking very much, but then what can you expect? John Marzano checked in with four home runs.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm going to get more on John Marzano in just a little bit. One of my favorite all-time Mariners. This was his last season as a mariner. Rich Amarrel hit one. Raulobanias hit two. Joe Oliver hit two. Rico Rossi hit one. Rico Rossi, very interesting story.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Go back and listen to my episode about the 1998 Mariners for a story about Rico Rossi. Jeff Houston checked in with one before he was released, as did Rick Wilkins, Robert Perez, two home runs in his brief stint as a mariner, David McCarty with one, and Ryan Radmanovich with two. Hmm. I think I just named every single 1998 Seattle Mariner who had hit a home run. I guess this is what happens when DC doesn't write a script.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But as a team, ladies and gentlemen, the 1998 Seattle Manors hit 234 home runs, first in the American League next season, 1999, they'd hit 244, also first in the American League. That's four consecutive seasons with 200 plus home runs. 2,198 home runs. They barely missed 7th in the American League. King of Review Jr. was gone by this point. Remember that, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And Mike Cameron did hit 28 as a mariner, but hey. And I know you guys know, I'm not the biggest proponent of the home run or the power game. I much prefer small ball moving guys over, and I'm one of the few guys left who does not mind the bunt. In fact, I like the bunt play, and I like stolen bases. That kind of makes me unique in today's game. I am definitely a throwback. And at this time, I'm a rambling throwback. I want to talk about John Marzano just for a little bit, because there's something else that happened on this date in Mariners' history,
Starting point is 00:07:22 just two years prior to what we had been talking about. This is August 28, 1996, Year of Our Lord. This is the day, ladies and gentlemen, in which John Marzano kind of protected Tim Davis. Tim Davis had thrown a high and tight pitch on Paul O'Neill of the Yankees, and the Mariners were en route to slaughtering the Yankees this day. It wound up being attended to final. Paul O'Neill starts running his mouth, and remember Tim Davis is 5'10, maybe 165 pounds soaking wet, and Paul O'Neill was 6263, 200 plus pounds.
Starting point is 00:07:58 and Marzano, you know, tough guy from Philly, not all that big himself, but a very solid 195, basically said, if you want to get to Tim Davis, you've got to go through me first, big right hook in Paul O'Neill's direction, and then all heck broke loose, benches cleared, and O'Neill and Marzano wound up getting tossed from the game, as does Darrell Strawberry, Baba Ayala, and Jeff Nelson, who came into the ballgame later on, and the first batter that he faces was little Joey Cora and he hits him. What a... I guess I have to bleep that.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And remember, Jeff Nelson would later be a Mariner. He was a hothead too, ladies and gentlemen. He did have a temper. This was one of my favorite proles in Mariner's history only because I love how John Marzano was protecting his teammate and a very slightly built teammate to boot.
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Starting point is 00:11:11 Again, one of my all-time favorite Mariners. He died about 12 years ago, tragically, after an accident in his home. We do miss him. If you've got a question for me or a comment on the show, send an email to Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com, and I will consider using it for the Friday. mailbag segment, which will follow in just a bit. Questions about anything are welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Locked-on Mariners at gmail.com. Once again, is that email address. Send those questions in, and this will be for the show one week from today. Our first mailbag is September. Incidentally, can you believe that it's almost September, ladies and gentlemen? The year is two-thirds over. Yay. More Locked-on Mariners upon the conclusion of this very important word.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Now time for the second half of Lockedown. Locked-on Mariners. Once again, your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you once again, sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I don't know why I said that. That's Joey Martin, our announcer, ladies and gentlemen, here on Locked-on Mariners.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Always does a good job introducing the show, bringing us back out a commercial break, and then closing us out on every single episode. It's Friday, and we're doing the Friday mailbag. Finally, ladies and gentlemen, halfway through the season, only a 60-game season, I know. We've only got a few questions today, is kind of nice because the first segment ran so long.
Starting point is 00:12:41 We're going to get right into the first question, and the first question comes to us from our old friend, John N. Fife. How appropriate. In any case, he asks, ladies and gentlemen, do you think the Ms are playing above their level similar to the way they started the 2019 season? Is this the pace that they are going to keep up all season? If the latter is the case, how long do you see the, quote, rebuild taking?
Starting point is 00:13:07 I also want to point out that this question, was sent to me on August 6th. So the Mariners have kind of flattened out since then. They're kind of doing, I think the Mariners are kind of doing, you know, what I expected of them. The bats are ahead of the arms, so to speak, in terms of this rebuilding project that they're on right now. And, you know, they're going to go through some down moments.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And Shedlongs develop, he's not having as good a season as he did in his cup of coffee. Well, he had more than a cup of coffee last season. He's not doing as well as he did last season with the Major League level. I still think he'll be okay. This is such a weird season, though, that it's kind of tough to judge. I mean, Evan White is starting to come around, so to speak. He's still kind of striking out at a very high clip, but he's making a little bit more consistent contact.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He's gotten his average up above around 150, when it had been hovering around 100. So that's an impressive jump. Vogelback's gone. Taiwan Walker, I don't know if he was really viewed as part of the rebuilding project or not. He's now a Blue Jay anyway. He could have been if the Mariners were to put it together a little bit more this season, perhaps,
Starting point is 00:14:13 so they may be competitive next season. But on the other hand, let's see what kind of prospect the Mariners get for for Taiwan Walker. But to get back to your question, this is kind of how I saw them doing. This is not a surprise to me at all. And how long do I see the rebuild taking? You know, it's so tough to say, but I don't, if I had to put a time on it, I'll say 2022. I don't think next year is going to be the year.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Maybe the year after that, which is 2022. We shall see. The only time we'll tell. I really can't offer a firm answer on that, unfortunately. The next question I got comes to us from Leslie in Airway Heights in my neck of the woods. So, you know, hello from Spokane. In any case, Leslie in Airway Heights, which is just a stones throw away from my house, asks, why do you refuse to say the name of the Mariners Ballpark is?
Starting point is 00:15:06 and then they list the name. Well, because I am not a fan of the rebranding that they did to the stadium. I kind of feel like this company. I don't even say their name in conversation. It's not just on this show. I refuse to say their name. I refuse to say their name in everyday conversation. I refuse to type their name.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I loathe this company, ladies and gentlemen, and it is because of what they did to a once-a-one. great stadium. They overbranded the hell out of it, and they made it look like something Mattel would have designed for Barbie, because that is their color. They think they're the most important thing for that stadium. You know, their mindset is, yeah, there might be a baseball game going on, but we've got cell phones and crappy wireless service. That's why people are coming here. It's because of us. It has nothing to do with that sporting team that's on that. that field over there, which we would dye pink if we could,
Starting point is 00:16:10 and we'd make them wear pink uniforms if MLB would allow us to do that. But, no, it's because of the branding to the stadium. And I would be saying the same thing if it was Sprint, and they turned the stadium that gaudy yellow. It's an eyesore. It's an eyesore, and they have ruined that stadium. I, f***, hate them. And yes, that is our second bleep of the day.
Starting point is 00:16:35 One more quick story on what used to be. The first name was a corporate name too. So, you know, the Mariners Stadium. The first year it was crappy cell phone company park in the preceding offseason. They had called me to ask me if I was interested in purchasing season tickets because I had purchased single game tickets. The last year it was Safeco Field. And I told them that I wasn't interested not only had I moved to Spokane in the interim, but I also told them that even if I still live in Seattle,
Starting point is 00:17:05 wasn't going to buy season tickets or any single game tickets because of what they had done to the stadium. I told him in no uncertain terms that the ballpark had been destroyed. So I did voice my displeasure to at least that ticket agent on the phone who, you know, I know they don't care. I'm just one customer. They'll get others. That is just the way business works. And I realize that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And I don't care. I don't care. We have only two more questions to get through, ladies and gentlemen. This next one comes to us from Aidan Soans, who emails us. for the second time and actually did tell me how to pronounce his name. So, Aidan, thank you very much for that. East Hanton, Connecticut is where this gentleman is from. And his question is, what position or player do you think the Mariners will go after in the
Starting point is 00:17:50 2021 draft? I would say catcher or another pitcher, because there aren't any good third baseman in the draft next year. A lot of pitching and catchers, though. This question is way outside of my area of a lot of. expertise. I don't pay attention to the draft. I don't pay attention to college baseball. I have the faintest idea who's in the draft next year. I pay as much attention to prospects as I do golf, which means none. So I asked somebody who does know. And so I asked Aram Layton of
Starting point is 00:18:22 Locked on MLB prospects, which you should be listening to everyday ladies and gentlemen right here on the Locked On podcast network. And he had the following to say, rather long answer, but we'll get through it. And this is a direct quote from Mr. Layton. What pick are we anticipating the Mariners get? Because if it's a top two pick, Kumar Rocker and Jack Lighter are the clear-cut one and two picks out of Vanderbilt. Kumar Rocker may be one of the best pitching prospects we've seen in years. Outside of the top two, it gets really tough because no Cape Cod League this summer.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Usually that's where guys really solidify themselves in the top 10. I'd say outside of lighter and rocker, Matt McLean would be a great fit. Was a first round pick out of high school by D-backs, didn't sign, went to UCLA, and had a tough freshman year, but great summer in Cape and hot start last season. Should be a top 10 pick if he puts up numbers this year as expected. Plus, Mariners can use some middle infield help, and he's a good fit. Well-rounded potential five-tool type of guy. Aram, thank you for that reply. That's a hell of a lot better answer than I could offer in which I would probably just have said, well, it depends on where the Mariners pick and left it at that. So Aram, thank you again for answering Mr. Sone's question. One more email to get to, and this gentleman actually asks us two questions. This comes to us from Lewis Olenek, who did not leave a location. His first question is this, considering that the Mariners hold the longest playoff drought in any major U.S. League and are all, Also, the only act of MLB franchise to have never won a pennant are those of us who still watch every M's game the most loyal fans in sports.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't know the answer to that for sure, but you bring up a really good point, actually. You know, because over the last 20 or so years, not really 20, but, you know, certainly, you know, 15, 16, 17 years, you know, the Mariners haven't done anything. They've had some good seasons, but they haven't made the playoffs. A couple years ago they were, you know, trying to get that second wild. card spot and just missed on the last day of the season, they needed Oakland to lose to be able to do that. Oakland won. And I think that was two years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It could have been. And in any case, I don't know if I'm going to say yes one way or the other, but I will say that that's a really good point, and I cannot fault that logic. Question number two, what has been the biggest factor in keeping the Mariners from building, if we're being honest, any serious expectations of playoff-level competitive. since 2001. If other understated baseball markets, such as Kansas City, Milwaukee, Arizona, Tampa Bay, Miami, and Colorado have all enjoyed one or several moments in the sun in the past almost two decades.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Why can't Seattle? I'm a fan no matter what, but it does grow tiresome to think that the greatest team successes we have to celebrate in 43 years of existence or an ALDS walkoff win and a regular season wins record that culminated in a decisive ALCS loss. Part of that is the fact that in 2002 and 2003, where the Mariners did put together some very, very good seasons, a couple of very, very good seasons. Oakland was just that much better. They kept just getting edged out when they have put together good season, just kept getting edged out by other teams. And the other part of it is that the Mariners have made some very, very bad personnel decisions, particularly,
Starting point is 00:21:59 when Bill Bavese was the general manager of the team. Remember Richie Sexton? He didn't work out very well. Remember Rich Arrilla? He didn't work out very well. Who, I mean, anybody you can name, I mean, you know, Jeff Cirillo, Unieski Bentancourt,
Starting point is 00:22:15 one of the most frustrating mariners that I can remember. And lest you forget, Scott Spizio, he was an unmitigated disaster as a Seattle mariner. Sean Figgins, also a disaster as a Seattle mariner. And Milton Bradley, another disaster. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And then there's Adrian Beltray. And if we're going to be honest, Beltray was nothing more than a league average third baseman at best for the Seattle
Starting point is 00:22:40 Mariners. And they paid him a ton of money to be a little better than mediocre. I know he's going to be a Hall of Famer. All of that production for the most part came as a Texas Ranger. After his tenure with the Mariners, and they gave him that big contract based on one career year as a Los Angeles Dodger. And even at that time, I said, you know, why are the Mariners doing this? It's one career year, and I was right. He regressed back to his, you know, career average numbers rather than the monster season he put up with the Dodgers. And his tenure with the Mariners was really unspectacular. It was a lot of bad personnel decisions and just churning. cheapness from the front office, and they also didn't draft particularly well during those years.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They're drafting much better now over the last five or so seasons, and those guys are starting to come up through the minors, pardon me, and they're hopefully going to be competitive within the next few years. I think the signs are there that this could be a competitive team maybe next year, although I think that's kind of an outside chance of that happening. but two years from now is kind of where I'm looking to answer, you know, to re-answer an email question that we had. You know, we'll see. It's mostly just bad personnel decisions and a little bit of bad luck.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But let's talk about some of the names you mentioned here, Miami. They pretty much bought their two World Series championships through the free agent market and then sold everybody off the next season. So that's an outlier. Tampa Bay they had at their helm at that time, Joe Madden, you know, the evil genius, so to speak. Milwaukee has been very smart with their money. Kansas City, I'm not even sure. I mean, I don't really pay much attention to teams outside of Seattle.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So I don't know if I can really answer, you know, the other part of that question, aside from Miami, where it was just obvious that they were just spending big bucks on free agents like the Yankees used to do about 20 years ago to basically purchase World Series trophies. Thank you very much for the question, Lewis, and thank you everybody for writing in. That will do it for this week's mailbag segment. If you want to be featured in next week's mailbag segment, send those questions and comments in to Locked-on Mariners at gmail.com. And hopefully, we generate enough email to do one next week. If not, we'll just hold it over until I can fill a segment. That will do it for today, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I hope you enjoyed both of today's shows. We will be back on Monday, where I will be joined by guest panelists, Sheriff, Andy Taylor, comet, and a nimbus rain cloud. That will be fun. Also, a special musical performance by the California Raisins. That's going to be fun. So download, rate and subscribe to this program, so you never miss an episode. Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher Radio, any podcasting app that pops into your head. Follow us on Twitter as well so you know when the shows are published at L.O. underscore Mariners. And follow me on Twitter as well at D.C. underscore Lundberg. Thank you for listening today, ladies and gentlemen, to both of our episodes.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Thank you for listening all week. Thank you for listening all season. Thank you for listening to this show since its inception. And I hope that you do have a wonderful weekend. This is Joey Martin saying that we'll be back on Monday for another edition of Locked On Mariners, part of the Locked On Podcast Network.

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