Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - ONE LAST FAN FICTION FRIDAY: Could the Seattle Mariners Trade Emerson Hancock For Otto Lopez?!

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

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The trade deadline is in a few days, but the mayors have yet to make a move, which means there's still time for one last fan fiction Friday. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors, it is Friday, July 31st, 2026. My name is Tadeng Azales.

I'm joined as always by my co-host. Colby Patnode. Today's episode is brought to you by CalShe for a limited time. Download the Calci app. and use the promo code locked on. That's LOCK-E-O-N to get up to $500 in bonus credits when you trade $25. It's fan fiction Friday of the show where you submit your Mariners trade ideas and we grade them on the 2080 scale based on things like creativity, uniqueness,

and of course, if they make sense for both clubs. Let's get into these trades. Tom has our first deal of the day with the Miami Marlins. We'll see as the Mariners trading Emerson Hancock and Felning Celestin. few Miami for Otto Lopez. Colby, you're rocking the Marlins City Connect, the old Marlins City Connect hat on today's show. So clearly you can speak on behalf of the Miami Marlins here.

You doing the deal? Yeah. If I were the Mariners, sure. If I were the Marlins, probably looking for a little bit more. Otto Lopez is enjoying a breakout year. He's got four years of club control. He is a plus defensive shortstop.

he's also a plus base runner and he is right now battling with louisa rise for the national league batting title if that means anything to you i believe he's already a five-win player and he's four and a half on paragraphs i believe what 26 years old like he yeah so prime player at a premium position in a market devoid of right-handed bats it i think you're going to need another top 100 prospect. And so I think for me, I would look at this and I would say it's something like Hancock, Lazz and Feldman.

Maybe they really like Nikki Becker or Luke Stevenson and you can kind of maneuver around that way as the third piece, not as the second piece. And if I were the Mariners, I would strongly consider that. Yeah, we had, I mean, probably close to 10 different variations of Hancock for Lopez type of trades across our

our Twitter and the Discord so tried to pick one that would give us at least the launching point for this topic so apologies if we didn't pick yours but your idea is getting talked about yeah and you know Lopez has been kind of a hot name because yesterday two days ago like the Marlins weren't even consider selling him.

And then yesterday it's like, oh, no, we're shopping him. And, you know, an hour later, it was like, well, you know, I mean, if you want to blow us away, we're listening. And now it's like, oh, well, now we're definitely going to trade. Like, it just kind of goes back and forth as it does this time of year. But if Lopez is available to me, he would be my number one target if I were the Mariners. He's just such a great hit. And I would be very aggressive. And that includes Hancock and then like a film.

in and a LAS, I would do that. I agree. And I think that's about what it would take because the Yankees are going to be in on this. The Red Sox are going to be in on this. The Red Sox farm system is very good as well. And there would be a bit of a bidding more. The one advantage, quote unquote, you have over the Red Sox is that they already traded one of their young controllable starting pitchers a week ago.

So maybe you have a bit of an advantage there. But the Red Sox need a shortstop more than. you probably is how Jerry and Justin would look at it even though that's not accurate whatsoever. So yeah, Lopez to me would be the number one target. I think this is a good starting point, but I think you're missing a really good third piece here, kind of a, I mean, I don't even know who the headliner is, I guess Hancock technically. But yeah, I think you're looking at Hancock, Arroyo, two up, Arroyo, Las, Falman, maybe a Stevenson or Becker, if you're also willing to throw in like a Mason-Peter,

type like two like top 12ish prospects instead of you know an extra top five or six guy maybe even Johnny Farmello has to factor in here and and so yeah five win short stops don't become available hardly ever especially ones in their prime ones who are ascending and ones who are elite defensive players as well so uh for rate on this one it's too light at the end of the day I think it is uh so it would probably like a 40 45 but you're on the right track And I think your understanding, like, Lopez would be pretty pricey. But I just, I think you need another player in the Felman grouping, which again, could be Farmel, could be Arroyo, could be Las. Yeah, because Lopez is a great all-around player.

You know, he's an elite defender. He's, you know, hitting for a high average. He's even slugging quite a bit this year. he's finally broken out after being about a two and a half win player the past two seasons mostly off of his defense it's going to cost a ton you know so i agree with you that it's it's probably Hancock las and uh felon not just felony and and Hancock uh so for that i'll give you like a 40 to a 45 i'll say this about auto lopez though you know i'm not concerned about the whole like well you have Cole Young and you have Cole Emerson already

and you have Brennan Donovan and you have J.P. Crawford and all that. I need good players right now. I need good hitters. I don't really care where they come at. I'll figure it out later. I just need to get good players. And Otto Lopez might be, you know, if he does get traded this summer, might be the best player that gets moved out of anyone.

So, yeah, I'm totally on board with that. I would love to see the Marin's land. Otto Lopez. He was someone that we heavily considered before this year, before his breakout season when we did our offseason plan. I think I might even had him in my personal offseason plan before we

combine the two. I know that you and I have each kind of like presented him the last two offseason is like, you know, hey, the bat's not there, but the glove is plus. Well, now the bat's there. So, yeah. Yeah. I'd be very aggressive

on Lopez if you were actually available. Yeah. So I've been a big Lopez guy for a while now. So I'd be stoked if the marinas actually landed him. So love the idea here. Totally on board with it. But yeah, I think you would need to get a little bit more aggressive on the return. And I'd be fine with that, frankly.

Yeah. All right. Our next trade here comes from Tyler. It's another Emerson Hancock trade. No surprise here. I expected most of these trades to be Emerson Hancock related, which at the very least, you can go a bunch of different ways with Hancock trades. So that's nice.

So at least we get some variety here. But it's Hancock and Las Montas to, to the Cardinals for Riley O'Brien and Yvonne Herrera. Yeah, sounds about right. O'Brien, I think, has four years of club control after this year, if I'm not mistaken. And he's having a good year. He was an all-star this year, but also not quite as good as last year.

The underlying metrics are about the same, though. And he's very marinary. In fact, the Mariners had him at one point. Surprise, he never gave him a shot. So, you know, another open arm that they correctly identified as a potential breakout guy. And then unfortunately, it didn't keep long enough to reap the benefits of. That's kind of become a new thing for the Mariners over the last couple of years. Last year was what, Pomerantz.

Year before that, it was Tyson Miller. Also Luke Weaver. Yeah. So just not quite enough patience on these guys. But, yeah, he certainly makes sense. He would definitely be more in the, more in the bizarre. range or closer to the bizardo range than the munios range, but still, that would be very helpful. And Herrera is a good hitter who's having a little bit of a down year, mostly in the power

department. So, yeah, the thing with Herrera is that it's not really a catcher, not a good one. Anyways, so he is primarily a DH. So do you want to trade Hancock for, you know, four years of a DH who's having a bad year, relatively speaking? Yeah, it's still pretty good. year and like yeah overall he'd still be hitting like top three or four in your line up don't give me wrong but it's just he was a 137 WRC plus last year the power is under 400 or

slugs under 400 like yeah it's it's just a little bit worse this year uh but yeah I think this is about right Riley O'Brien's a high leverage you know dog I think I'd probably place them at on the dude daddy scale daddy dude scale never which whichever way we go with that. I think he's probably more of a dog in there. And then, you know, LAS, we've talked about him. How much of a future is there in Seattle? I don't know. Maybe. If Luke really gets traded, then the path becomes much clearer. But I do think

is somebody in the LAS range. Maybe it's Feldman. Maybe it's some kind of comment. Maybe it's Stevenson. Maybe it's, you know, Peters and whatever. The problem here is, and this is a question that we won't be able to answer, but the question is like, what is Emerson Hancock's trade value? How much are teams willing to buy in on the breakout season for Hancock? Because in a vacuum, we're looking at a mid-rotation starter who's still got, you know, four and a half years left club control. That, to me, like, just again, in a vacuum, I could see Hancock getting you a Herrera and, Brian on his own.

But it's not out of vacuum. There's obviously important context here that like before this year, Hancock was bad specifically out of the rotation. So I just, I don't really see like, or like I can't, I don't really know how like teams really value this guy. So yeah,

so it might be Montes that you have to throw in on top of here to, you know, push the steel across the finish line. Maybe it's more like a Mason Peters. Maybe it's a Josh Karen or someone like, I don't know. I don't know. So you could be right.

You could be way off. I have no idea. Yeah. I think just overall, I'd probably give it a 50. I think you're in the ballpark. Yeah. Could be a little bit more. It could be a little bit less.

But Contreras and O'Brien makes sense. And obviously, we know they're shopping Hancock. And Laz's future in Seattle is iffy, let's call it. At the very least, it's a little bit iffy. Not a clear path per se, but also they like him. and he has tremendous upside. So a little tough to gauge Las Montes and trade packages. But yeah, I think you're in the ballpark.

So I'll go about a 50. Yeah, I'll go 50. All right. We will look at more of your trades in just a moment. But first a reminder of this episode of the Locktime Marriss podcast is brought to you by Amazon. This back to school season, spend less on your kids with Amazon. We all know how crazy the back to school shopping experience can be. It starts with a few items on the list.

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Mariners. And also thank you for making Lockdown the number one sports podcast network. It's fan fiction Friday. Let's get back into your Mariners mock trades. I can't find my Bluebird. That's a one for one deal here with the Chicago of Cubs where the marriage trade at Emerson, Hancock, to Chicago for Matt Shaw. Our favorite most trusted reporter, Bob Nightingale, wrote a piece today and he had a blurb about how Hancock is.

Maybe I should just read the whole thing to make sure we get it right. Yeah. Yeah, so he said, quote, teams are salivating over the idea of acquiring Hancock, who's easily the most prized young pitcher or prized young starter on the market. They believe that the Cubs could have the best shot at him, they include outfielders say a Suzuki and perhaps Matt Shaw on a deal. So the Bob Nightingale effect in a fact, you know, is in effect here. That seems like that was told to him directly by a mariner representative.

So who's to say. But yeah, I mean, our team salivating over him, that'd be great. That would really be helpful. Or our teams looking at him like, oh, you know, it's pretty good, but we look at the peripherals a little bit. We look at the shallow track record. Yeah. So like,

this is like we had no idea. Yeah. Like if Haycock gets traded, it could be literally anything, which is kind of exciting, right? Because like you and I talked about this, a day or two ago off air. Like,

you know, in previous trade deadlines when the Marys were buying, you know, we kind of like do like if they are going to buy, if they are going to get some guys. Like we kind of know roughly like who they're going to be like Randy or Rosemary, Josh Naylor, Anya Soros, whatever.

With Hancock, yeah, with Hancock, it's like, there are a billion different potential outcomes here for Hancock, which again, like, so far we've talked about three Hancock trades, including this one, and they've all been with different teams for different players. Very, a variable player. A varying level. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, so, again, we talked about this in the past. Shaw rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. with the decision he made last September, just leaving the team in the middle of a playoff race. So that is something that, specifics of which we're not going to get into here, but that is something that teams have to navigate. And they have to, do we trust this player?

Is that something that we can live with, blah, blah, blah, blah. And maybe the Mariners think that, I don't know if they do or not. All I can say is I know it rubbed a lot of his teammates the wrong way. and the Mariners are a big clubhouse oriented team, especially in recent years. So will that factor into their decision on Shaw? I don't know.

But just on the outset, like Hancock for Shaw makes sense for both sides. And Shaw is a talented hitter who's had some moderate success in the big leagues, not a ton of it, though. So I do think that he and Hancock, the Cubs and the Mariners make sense as trade partners. Hancock and Shaw feel like similar players. in terms of value. So again, you know, if the clubhouse stuff isn't something that the mariners are concerned about in terms of like they don't think that'll be a problem, then yeah, I think this is probably roughly where things end up. Yeah, it would be greater.

They could also get say a Suzuki in that trade. I'm not holding my breath. But, yeah, I think if this was the trade, I think this is fine. I think this is pretty welcoming of a return, which again, is fine. I don't want, you know, to set the sites on Hancock to be like, he's worth three top 100 prospects or anything like that and then be disappointed. I would rather they trade Hancock straight up for Shaw than somebody like Ramos of the Giants. I think Shaw has more of an upside.

So I'd be better with that. But overall, I'd be pretty wellmed by this trade. Like, it's fine. It's not a bad trade. I think it's probably a 50. I think it's probably right in range. of what's, you know, could be possible. It's feasible for both teams.

It makes sense for both teams. And we've heard both of these players being shopped by their own team. So, yeah, I mean, it's pretty solid, just kind of 50 grade. Like, yep, totally see it happen. It's not that creative because, you know, we've heard this trade for quite a while now. But, yeah, it is solid. And I do think it is in the realm of possibility. So I'll give it a solid 50.

Yeah, I mean, like Shaw would help you nail down third base, which is not a position that you have. Or potentially at that field. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he can move around, you know, and so that gives you even more flexibility on top of the flexibility that Brennan Donovan gives you when he's healthy and he's on the roster. So, you know, that aspect of it is fun. Again, it's just the thing that gives me pause is, you know, what happened last year, Shaw leaving the team, you know, apparently that rubbed some guys, you know, the wrong way. in that clubhouse and even I think it was one of the

commentators on the Cubs broadcasts kind of ripped into them for it as well. So like it's clearly something that you know, not a lot of people in the Cubs organization were super cool with and obviously the mayor is big thing for them is clubhouse fit

and all that. So I do wonder if maybe that just kind of takes Shaw off the board or if they feel like hey, you know, that was a young player made a bad decision you know and and we think that he's moved past that all that um so we'll see but uh yeah shah's an interesting dude i give this like a 55 you know again like it's it's not that creative because like yeah we've seen a lot of shaw for hancock uh you know deals out there but like solid yeah it's solid uh i can definitely see it happening it's pretty realistic yeah one thing to keep in mind though

is that shah's going to be out past the all or past the deadline like you're not going to get him right away. It doesn't sound like it's going to be too far beyond the deadline, but you're probably going to have to wait another week or so after you make this trade before you, I could get them in your lineup. So get that factor in here.

Yeah, it could. If there are other competing offers on the table, it could, but assuming, you know, what we can't assume, yeah, I think this is pretty solid and very just reasonable and plausible trade that we could see.

in the next 72 hours. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's got a hand thing going on. And about a week ago, Craig Counsel, it was about two weeks ago now, this report. I'm just looking at his fan graphs page. So maybe there's a more recent report that's out a couple of weeks ago. He still wasn't swinging a bat.

So, yeah. I don't know. So, yeah, maybe that gives us the marries and pause as well, because, like, they're trying to buy to still compete, even if they would be buying a, you know, a long-term club-controlled piece, and they would be buying for the sake of competing in 2026 as well. Which, like, that is kind of interesting,

like the report on, say, Suzuki today, like, if that, if Suzuki is going to eat, you know, quite a bit into the overall value that you would get back in a Hancock trade, you know, again, like, yeah, obviously you're only two and a half back of the division, but your four games under 500, like, do you really want to do that? do you really want to eat, you know, into the value of Hancock on a rental bet? I mean, they were in worse shape, playoff positioning-wise, last year when they went out and they got Chino and Naylor. But the problem is like, yeah, but the problem is like we're talking about that from the perspective of like what other teams are doing and not what the Mariners themselves are doing.

And it's like what the Mariners themselves are doing right now is other teams are doing what they're doing. and the mayor's doing what they're doing, and there's still three games out of a playoffs. Yeah, yeah. With the weakest September schedule in baseball. You know, not August's schedule. But you better have a nice homestown. That's all I'm going to say.

I mean, could it get much worse, though? No. No, they can't. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. And also, you know, not that he's in this trade, but say Suzuki worth repeating, he still does have a no trade clause so yeah that's the other thing too like does he even want to come to

seattle does he want to leave a team that's definitely making the playoffs that he spent his entire majorly career with to come to a team that is you know on the outside looking in and is is going the opposite direction i i i don't know is he going to hit in team mobile park for the last two months before yeah exactly yeah that's exactly what i was about to say yeah maybe yes i mean maybe yes but uh yeah there's just yeah there's some issues there with the the Suzuki thing. Side note on this. Talk a lot about Suzuki.

I'm surprised we haven't heard any rumblings about Ian Hap, who's also a rental, who's also making big money, who also is struggling a little bit like Luis Castillo. That actually seems like a more like cohesive swap than Suzuki for

for Castillo. Like it feels like it should be Hap for Castillo, half a switch hitter. So, but anyways, regardless, we didn't get that trade. This trade right here, I still give it a 50.

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Marys, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone. Link in the description of this episode. Let's get back into your trades here on Fan Fiction Friday. Lines from over on our Discord has a deal here with Mets. Hey, it's not an

Emerson Hancock trade. How about that? Rare non-Emerson Hancock trade. Yeah. Marrars get Tyrone Taylor, who has a 938 OPS and a 156 WRC plus versus left-hand pitching 74 plate appearances this year. And Huascar Brazabond

for Mason Peters and Luke Rayleigh. That feels very heavy from the Mariners. Yeah. I like Taylor. I like Brazabon. I like them packaged together. I think that makes a lot of sense for Seattle.

Taylor can play all three outfield spots. He's kind of a true fourth outfielder. Brazzabon's had a good year, and he can fill a couple different roles for you. He's kind of, you know, bizardo, very similar to bizardo in terms of value. I don't know why the Mets would want Lou Grayley, frankly. That doesn't really fit. Yeah, especially with Ben and Ewing.

Yeah. And that's Soto, obviously. And, like, yeah, they have a lot of lefties already in their lineup and the outfield. They have the guys that they want to play in the outfield. So I don't know if he makes much sense in this deal. Do I want to trade Mason Peters for a pure platoon fourth outfielder and kind of a seven-thning guy? Who's a rental? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then like a seventh inning guy, not really. I look at what mentor went for yesterday And I feel like that's probably about what Brazabon should go for And then Taylor To me this is more of like a You know

The headliner in this type of package should probably be somebody more like Maybe even Corbyn Dickerson I'd be okay with Yeah I mean like Like isn't the comp here for Brazabon Chase Silseth yeah probably and like you know the rangers got soul seth

and oh hobby who sucks but like got both of those guys for non top 30 guy yeah i mean top 30s aren't everything but yeah yeah if it was like hey we'll give you like griffin hugis

who's recovering from Tommy John and like uh you know aden torque Jackson Steinsma like some kind of package deal of these like 20 to 30 30 rank prospects, fine. But Peters, I think, is, is, he's fringed top 100 to me.

Probably like 150. Like, I really like him. And we'll see if he can start, but for now he has been. And I would value him as such. So I don't think a rental and a mid-leverage reliever is really the path I would go for for Peters especially since the rental is more of a part-time player now if it was like taylor ward then maybe i might be willing to discuss mason peters although probably not for this team and how they performed but at least then it's like okay that's an everyday player

taylor's not brazabon again i think i could just get him for like toric and steinsma or something like that um or at most i think like corbin Dickerson or maybe even like a, I would say Brock Moore, but unfortunately he left the game yesterday along with Ryan Bliss. It was kind of a bloodbath on the Mariners minor league system yesterday. But anyways, yeah, I think you're just overpaying here. And I don't think Rayleigh really makes that much sense. So I think the deal just doesn't work on a couple of levels.

But I do like Rosabon and Taylor. Those are two guys we have not talked about that both make a good deal sense for this team. So you do get a bump on the creativity front of it. So I think probably go like a 40. Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking 35, 40. Yeah. Yeah, Taylor and Brazzabine because those two names,

but I haven't seen them ever. That gets you a little bit of a bump here. Sure. Last trade of the day comes from Clotsiluficus, where the White Sox trade Braden Montgomery and Zach Franklin to the Mariners for Emerson, Hancock, Luke Rayleigh, and Luke Stevenson. It's interesting.

Mm-hmm. It's also kind of the opposite of what the white socks have said they wanted, which is they don't want to trade top 10 prospects. They're willing to eat money to get a better deal. Now they do get a top 10 prospect back. Yes, and that's kind of what makes us interesting. The top 10 prospect also a catcher, which I believe the white socks are. Well, they have Kyle Teal, but he's been hurt a lot this year. So how does that factor into their long-term outlook on him?

Probably doesn't affect it all that much. We did get a rumor today that the White Sox were closing in on Freddie Peralta and then the interest in Peralta kind of kicked up. So I don't know if the White Sox are going to be interested in Hancock. I feel like maybe they would prefer a rental because they don't want to trade, you know, the Braden Montgomery's of the world. but yeah I think this is a pretty interesting trade I think it's a fun one to kind of kick around

but ultimately it just I don't see the I just don't think the white socks are going to be into this do the white socks need Luke Craley is he even much of a fit there because like like obviously they would be trading Montgomery to who hits from the left side side, but they have Tristan Peters and they have Antinacci. They have been a

attendee on their roster who's actually having a decent year this year. Yeah, I'm not sure if Rayleigh's much of a fit in Chicago even when you subtract Montgomery from the equation. So I'm not sure, yeah, yeah, I'm not really sure if the Rayleigh aspect of this works. But yeah, I think it's interesting to kind of look at what the report was with the White Sox and like, we don't want to trade top 10 prospects, you know, for pitching,

but like you give them a top 10 prospect back, you know, so. Right. And the pitcher is young. Controllable, cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not wanting to give up a top 10 pitcher for like a Michael Waka.

Like, okay, he's making $15 million. She's 35 years old. Okay. Well, what if it's a 27 year old who's got four years of close? control is making league minimum next year and we give you a top 10 type of prospect to replace the one that you give up like

yeah at that point that gets pretty interesting so well and with the White Sox specifically that's a team that has playoff aspirations well you're getting him for five bites at the apple here instead of four which is like what you would be more so looking at you know or more so selling like

the Marlins on the Giants on etc so I think there has to be like a little bit of added value there as well if you're trading Hancock specifically to a contender. So yeah, so maybe that's a way to kind of circumvent what that report

was around the White Sox and what they're willing to do and what they're not willing to do. So I find this fascinating. I like Braden Montgomery. It's a very similar idea to the Ryan Walshman idea. Yeah. So

yeah, I just don't think the Raleigh aspect of it works. So that's like the only thing that I'm a little hung up on. Still give you like a 50, 55 though on this one. Yeah, I think it's probably a 50. It is very creative and it is a fun trade. But I think that it is just a little too unrealistic. And it kind of goes against everything we've heard about the White Sox

and their pursuit of starting pitching. But I do enjoy that you kind of, you kind of looked at it and you're like, yeah, you know, that's what they say, but what have we attacked it from this angle? Like what do we kind of work around that? Like I do think that's interesting thought process. So I really like the thought process behind it. I think it's a fun kind of like loophole almost to kind of work around what the White

Sox have been talking about, not wanting to do. And I do think that it is a, it would be a really fun trade to see go down. So I just think that it's just a little too unrealistic. So I guess I still go 55. I really do like the creativity of the deal. So I'll give it a 55, but like in terms of like, could I see this happening?

No. No. No. And if Rayleigh wasn't involved, if it was a different piece, if maybe it was like a Mason Peters or whatever instead of really, I'd give you a 60, honestly.

All right, guys, thank you all for your trades. Really appreciate it. That's going to do it for our show and that's going to do it for fan fiction Friday this summer. there might be a lot of fan fiction Fridays during the winter when we get bored. So you guys like the LBags and the triple Fs.

Yeah. I like this offseason. Yeah. So, you know, spend these next couple months cooking up some trades and we'll have plenty of fan fiction Fridays coming your way during the winter and during the lockout. Woof.

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