Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - One of the Best Seasons in Seattle Mariners History Is Over

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Ty and Colby react to the Mariners' 4-3 loss against the Blue Jays in Game 7 of the ALCS. Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on ...Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!5-Hour ENERGYEnough with boring, flavorless caffeine, it’s time to give your caffeine a flavor upgrade with 5-hour ENERGY®️ shots. Get the favorites you love or be bold and try something new in-store and online at https://www.5hourENERGY.com or Amazon today. NutrafolSee thicker, stronger hair with less shedding in just 3–6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, get $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code LOCKEDONMLB. ZippixGo to https://ZippixToothpicks.com and use promo code LOCKEDON for 10% off your first order.Zippix Toothpicks—energy and focus, anytime you need it.PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONMLBMonarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at https://monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Football season is around the corner, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 An incredible ride has come to a heartbreaking end. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors. This is Tadda Gonzalez and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Merrists podcast, part of the Lockdown podcast network, your team every day. This episode is brought to you by GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use the promo code Lockdown MLB.
Starting point is 00:00:34 That's L-O-C-K-E-O-C-E-O-C-E-O-A. and MLB for $20 off your first purchase. And as always, if you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, we have a Patreon called Control the Zone, where we talk Mariners, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone. Link in the description. One of the best seasons in Seattle Mariners history has unfortunately come to a better end.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Marries lose to the Blue Jays tonight, 4 to 3 in game 7 of the ALCS. eight outs away from their first ever trip to the World Series, but a three-run home run by George Springer. May that all disappear in the blink of an eye. We're going to talk about the decision to go to Edward Bizarro instead of Andreas Munoz there. We're going to talk about some of the other missed opportunities that led to this loss.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And, you know, we're just going to vent a little bit. And, you know, if you want to as well, feel free to in the comment section, if you're watching it on YouTube, you know, just let it all out. I guess a good place to start here is just the thing that stings the most about this one for me, Colby, is it felt like the bears were dictating this game for most of it. They made some big plays. They had some big hits from their stars.
Starting point is 00:02:00 They set the tone early on with Julio's double and Nailor drives them in. to make it won nothing. Obviously, the Blue Jays struck back, but after that, George Kirby kind of locked in and the pitching was pretty good in the middle portion of this game. It just,
Starting point is 00:02:17 it felt like, it felt a lot like game one of this series. And obviously there were some missed opportunities, you know, like I mentioned earlier, but still, it just, it felt like the Mariners were the better team or the majority of this game.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And then again, like I said, that, you know, all that just kind of disappeared in the blink of an eye on one swing at the bat. And, you know, that, that happens in games like these, you know, we're baseball fans. We've seen a lot of game sevens. We've seen a lot of high leverage baseball games flip in a moment's time like this. And unfortunately, you know, we're, we're on the receiving end of it this time around. So, yeah, that, that just, it hurts.
Starting point is 00:03:04 and, you know, heartbreak is a natural part to be in a Seattle sports fan from, you know, having the Sonics ripped away from us in 2008 to throwing it at the one-yard line in Super Bowl 49 to
Starting point is 00:03:20 pretty much the entire Mariners' existence. I mean, it's been a lot of, a lot of heartbreak. But, yeah, this, this game, and that's, swing from George Springer. That's up there. That's up there. That's going to live with me for a very
Starting point is 00:03:42 long time. Yeah. You know, it's it's one of those things. It's tough to bounce back from as a player. You know, it's tough to bounce back from as a fan. Baseball just in its very nature is designed to break your heart. You know, you can't run out the clock in baseball. You can't build a lead and then just sit on the ball until you win. You can't just force your best player to come up in the spot where you need them the most and have them get a hit. You have to work through your lineup and you have to get that opportunity to get back to that guy. You know, you can make great pitches and they could be hit off the end of the bat and
Starting point is 00:04:22 fall into right field for an RBI single and you lose that way. Like baseball is designed in many ways to break your heart. And as Mariners fans, we're very well familiar with that feeling. It's just this one is obviously ratcheted up quite a bit because, you know, it's game seven. And it's our first game seven. And you were, you know, just you were, what, eight outs away from going to your first World Series. You needed eight outs. You had a two-run lead.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And you couldn't make it happen. And there were a couple reasons for that. I'm sure we're going to talk about that throughout the show. But, you know, to be eight outs away. and to be, you know, that close and to just kind of fail. I mean, it's probably very similar to what, well, not exactly because they're, but, you know, the Blue Jays in game five, like they outplayed the Mariners for pretty much that entire game.
Starting point is 00:05:16 They made one mistake in a key moment. Boom, Mariners win, and, you know, they were sitting pretty at three to two. And then they dropped back-to-back games. It makes yesterday's effort hurt even more that they just didn't really show up for a game six. and this is what we talk about in a game seven, anything can happen. There are no safe leads in a game seven. There are no moments in a game seven that aren't magnified, and a lot of things can break your way.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Sometimes you have to make your own luck. The Mariners didn't do that tonight. But the Stars did do their thing. Julio had a good game. I know the last at bat was terrible, but whatever. Julio had a good game. Cal hit a home run. Josh Naylor had an RBI as well.
Starting point is 00:05:56 George Kirby was great. Brian Woola was pretty darn good until the end. you know, where we could talk about whether or not they should have put him out there. But you got from Wu and Kirby, you got six innings of really good baseball against that lineup. Like the starting pitching, those two guys, they did their job for like only the second time in the entire series. Yeah. They did their job. And you still came up short.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And it's heartbreaking, you know, and it sucks partially because, you know, it sucks partially because, you know, Bizarro's been so good all year, and he's been, you know, a guy that you trust a ton, not the guy to go to in that situation. We'll talk about that, I'm sure. But, you know, it is what it is, and it just stinks. You know, you had opportunities to blow this game open a couple times. You had three shots with runners in scoring position. A couple of them against Beaver, who was not sharp tonight, and you couldn't get the big hit, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And so there are a lot of reasons why you lost this game, a lot of reasons why you came up short. and there's just going to be a lot of bad memories from what has been otherwise an incredible season. And, you know, we know one thing about Mariners fans is that they will eventually focus on the positive. You can't be a Mariners fan without being a secret optimist. You have to be somewhat optimistic. You have to cope. You have to find a way to cope. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And that's through optimism. And so, you know, I'm sure it won't be long before we start seeing the, you know, this is just the start type of talk and all. that BS, but, you know, it's, it's okay to hurt right now. And it's okay to not feel like you ever want to watch baseball again right now. And it's okay to just acknowledge this sucks. Like this absolutely sucks. It hurts. It should hurt. It should sting. You've never been this close. We don't know when you're going to be this close again. We really don't. So, you know, it just is what it is. The team's going to look a lot different next year. We'll talk about that later this week, I'm sure. But, you know, just tonight, just hanging out with a bunch of
Starting point is 00:08:04 Mariner fans, I mean, we're all feeling the same thing. I'm pretty sure. Like, I know eventually we will move on to, well, next year's going to be the year and we'll be back and all that. But, you know, it's never that easy. It's never that easy. And this franchise, they've literally done it once in 48 years. So I don't know. I can't tell you it's, you know, this is the start. Maybe it is. It certainly could be.
Starting point is 00:08:33 There's a lot of things to be positive about, about the Mariners going forward. Tonight is not the night to talk about them. Tonight is the night is, tonight is the night to dissect this game and where it went wrong and how a team that was eight outs away from going to their first world series, lost. After controlling the game for the first 19 outs.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It just, there's just no way around it. There is no positive spin on tonight, or at least there shouldn't be an attempt to make a positive spin tonight. We can do that all winter long. Tonight, just feel this, just accept that it sucks, accept that there are people and things to blame here, and acknowledge that, accept it,
Starting point is 00:09:14 and we can all move on from it, knowing that we are all working from the same reality. But if there's no, like, alternative word. It sucks. This is our state of mind right now. It has to be, you know, maybe some anger from some people, maybe some apathy from some people. I don't know. I'm not going to tell you I don't know, but I do think it's important to all be working from the same plane of reality when we talk about tonight and what this baseball team is going to go through this winter. But again, tonight is about game seven. What this team is going to go through this winter,
Starting point is 00:09:50 we'll tackle that later in the week. Yeah. This, I'm not going to lie, and maybe I'm just victim to the moment right now, but, I mean, I tweeted this earlier. Like, this hurts more than when the Seahawks threw it at the one year line. Now, is part of that because I live here and I'm going to be constantly reminded of this and I'm not going to be able to avoid it because I just, I live around. people who love the team that just beat you. Probably. Probably.
Starting point is 00:10:29 That probably has something to do with it. You know, every time I go to the Rogers Center now, I'm probably going to be reminded of it. Every time I go to the Rogers Center, they're probably going to play it on the video board. Like they always played Jose Batista's home run in the ALDS all those years ago. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:47 that's my reality now. And all my good memory. that I had of that building, you know, with the, the 8 to 1 comeback in the wild card, kind of just gone now. So that sucks. So I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:11:07 I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we got to talk about the decision. You know which one we're talking about.
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Starting point is 00:13:01 And you're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. So going into this postseason, one of our biggest concerns was Dan Wilson. And now, you know, for the most part, this postseason, I didn't feel like Dan was a problem. Like there were some decisions that he made that I didn't necessarily agree with. But I never felt like he was a problem over the course of this postseason run. but tonight, well, he's not the only reason you lost this game and he's not the only reason. He's far from it that you lost the series. He's at the center of the biggest decision of this entire series and of this of this night.
Starting point is 00:13:46 To me, it's not just going with Edward Bizarro over Andres Munoz, it's also trying to get a third inning out of Brian Wu. I think that's part of this discussion that we need to have. I'll say this. I'm not surprised by the decision to go to Bizarro over Munoz, not on the slightest. Dan has refused all year long to go to Munoz in non-obvious save situation slash X-Rettings.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. But this is the last time you're going to see the top of the J's order. in the biggest moment of this game, you have to go to your best arm. And while Edward Bizarro has been a dog this year, and he still absolutely is, nothing that happened tonight changes that. He is the unsung hero of this 2025 Maras Ball Club.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You have to go to Andre Spunios in this situation, though. Yeah. You have to. You have to. And then you figure it out later. you have eight outs to get and you are facing their three best hiters with the tying run on second base not only do you need outs you need strikeout more than anything you need a strikeout bizardo while he's gotten more strikeouts in recent months
Starting point is 00:15:27 seems to get them mostly against lefties because of that wicked two seamer or sink or whatever it is. Munoz is the guy to go to there. If you don't want to use Brash tonight, which is fine. It looked to me like Brash was running on fumes in his last few outings, and he's coming back from the Tommy John. And so, like, understandably, Brash, probably not the right guy to go to there. You have to go to Munoz. And if you were willing, by the way, to bridge bizarre.
Starting point is 00:15:57 to Munoz in this game, Bizarardo should have started the seventh. To trust Brian Wu, who was pretty good tonight, who has thrown one game in the last month, to get more outs when you are clearly willing to go to Bizarro in this situation, in a higher leverage situation than you're willing to start dating with Wu for. It tells me that Dan Wilson didn't even consider having Munoz go two innings tonight. He was trying to get Munoz to only pitch the ninth, and you can not do that.
Starting point is 00:16:33 You have to manage the game in front of you, not the one you want to manage. That is your best reliever. The game is on the line right now. The Blue Jays, two hottest hitters are going to hit in the middle of you needing these eight outs to go to the World Series. And you go to a guy who, again, while he's been very good, and nothing about tonight changes that, he is the unsung hero like Ty said, all acknowledged, right? He has pitched seemingly every single game of these playoffs. Munoz has pitched once in a week.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Like, you barely use Munoz in this series. He is well rested. He is your best reliever. He is your best shot at a strikeout in that situation. He is the best matchup to face George Springer because of the slider. That's his best pitch, not a two seamer, which runs into Springer, a slider that runs away from Springer. there is no justification whatsoever to not go to Munoz there. The reason he didn't is because Munoz wasn't warming up at the start of the inning.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Why wouldn't Munoz be warming up at the start of the inning when you know that if two guys get on, I'm going to the top of the order. And by the way, it's a two-run ball game. If two guys get on, the winning run or the go-ahead run is coming to the plate in this inning. And it's going to be George Springer or it's going to be. Lucas like you know that is the scenario and you didn't even have him warming up. So the absolute ineptitude of Dan Wilson tonight was the biggest roadblock to you going to the World Series.
Starting point is 00:18:13 We said this way back before the Detroit series. What are you most concerned about for the Mariners as they enter these playoffs? What is your biggest obstacle? what is, you know, what is your gravest concern? Dan Wilson has always been the answer. And for the most part, he's been okay in this playoff run. Tonight, he choked. He choked. He did not think ahead. He didn't have, you know, he didn't have a good gut call. He didn't have, you know, he didn't stick to his guns. He tried to get cute with Wu to try and get another out or two because, again, he was not will. what this tells me, the evidence would suggest he was not willing to ask Munoz to go two outs or two innings, sorry. Yeah. Because otherwise, why wouldn't Munoz be hot and ready to go for when the back of the or for when the front of the order comes up? Whenever it happens, like it might happen in the seventh, he should be ready to go.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It might not have minutes for the top of the eighth to go, you know, to happen. Who cares? He's ready to go then. So just at every single. level of this thing, Dan Wilson screwed up at every level. Every decision he could have made in the seventh inning, he screwed up. And keep in mind, I think this is important. We pointed it out before.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The Mariners interviewed zero candidates before Dan Wilson, the full-time managerial job, a team that has World Series aspirations. They handed it to a guy with zero experience talking to zero people. along the way. And they just said, you're the decision maker. We're going to trust you. And for the last six months, we have been telling everybody who will listen, Dan Wilson is tragically bad at this. He might get better. But right now he is ill-equipped to manage a team with World Series aspirations. And guess what? Well, he's so good with the players. Well, the team loves him. Well, he got you to this situation. A lot of good that did. A, he didn't get you here.
Starting point is 00:20:23 the immense talent got you here but b now he's the reason you're not going on to the world series or at least he's the biggest reason you're not advancing he's he's one of the reasons there's some other reasons we'll get into in a bit we're not even talking about the decision to bunt against a struggling shame beber yeah that let his there's that there's that i mean look there's even a question about whether or not you should have taken uh kirby out after the fourth i'm not going to get them on that one. Like I'm, I'm okay with that. I understand that one.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. But the mismet, we are eight freaking outs away from going to the World Series. And And Andres Munoz did not pitch with a lead in this game. Yeah. Not because, you know, you lost the lead in the fourth inning. It's because you didn't have the foresight to look ahead and be like, hey, we'll just walk this guy. If one more player reaches base, we will face George Springer.
Starting point is 00:21:18 well the worst part of this is that the worst part of this is that Munoz did come into this game right after after it was over that's the worst that's the worst part about this and look okay you know if Munoz comes in does that automatically mean you're going to get out of that situation absolutely not he didn't even look particularly good when he came into this game he was able to get out of it on scale but he didn't but he didn't look particularly good the problem is I can live with you going to Munoz in that situation and the same result happens. I can't live with the fact that you didn't go to your best guy in that moment.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And that happened. I can't. I can't. I'm sorry. I can't. So while Dan isn't the only reason that you're not going to the World Series tonight, he didn't put his guys in the best position to succeed tonight to go to the World Series tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That's what I can't live with. So look, in the end, like a big reason for this is like, the bottom of your lineup sucked. This whole postseason run, but especially in this series, your rotation was bad in this series. And your rotation was incredibly disappointing. And obviously a lot of guys were dealing with injuries over the course of the year. But your rotation was incredibly disappointing over the course of the season.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Like, so there's that, you know, your bullpen, they should have, the front office should have added more to the bullpen. They tried, but, you know, their pivot move to Caleb Ferguson was not it. Like, there are so many other things that we can talk about here, right? That also directly contribute to this, this moment and just how this whole series played out, not just this particular moment. Because, again, you're up to O in the series, right? Frankly, you shouldn't have been in this situation.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Frankly, you shouldn't have been playing in a game seven. But you did. You did have to play in a game seven. And in this particular moment, Dan Wilson did not put his guys in the best position to succeed. No. In the most critical moment of this entire game. I can't accept that.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And while Dan is clearly a good manager for, you know, from the clubhouse perspective and for culture building and all that stuff, while he checks off all those boxes, which you can argue are the most important. boxes to check off as a manager. He is a bad in-game manager. We have been talking about this all year long,
Starting point is 00:23:52 and this is what ultimately scared me the most going into this postseason. And while it wasn't really a problem for this, you know, for most of this run, it killed you in the most critical moment tonight. It became a problem.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Well, we're going to wrap up with some final thoughts. I want to talk a little bit more about the bottom of the lineup versus the Blue Jays. bottom of the lineup. Go over that in just a moment. But first a reminder, this episode of the lockdown errors podcast is once again brought to you by game time. There's nothing like catching a baseball game live. The energy, the crowd, the chance to see your team in person, but actually getting tickets, that's the tough part.
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Starting point is 00:25:00 Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use the promo code locked on MLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, that's promo code LOC, KED, ON, MLB for $20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket, go. Download GameTime. today. And you're listening to the Lock Time Marrars podcast. So, you know, over the course of the season, the bottom of the Barra's lineup has come through in some pretty big ways. I mean, I think about earlier on this year when, you know, guys like I was Master Boni and, you know, Rivas and, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:36 guys like that were actually like chipping in a little bit and actually helping you win games. And then a little later on in the year, the bottom of your lineup was cooking again. and you know for a while they're like dom can zone don't know he was a revelation this year during the regular season definitely not in the post season during the regular season um but yeah that just all kind of went away here uh in the playoffs and it wasn't just can zone he was a big part of it but it wasn't just him uh here's a stat from foolish baseball
Starting point is 00:26:08 mirrors seven through nine hitters in this series slash 113, 207, 155, they scored two runs. Blue J's 7 through 9 hitters slash 284, 333, 500 with 12 runs scored. Yeah. That's your ballgame right there, frankly. Like, if we're talking about, like, obviously, you know, we talked a lot about Dan Wilson and the decision tonight, but if we're talking about the series as a whole,
Starting point is 00:26:37 it starts with that and it starts with this rotation outside of Bryce Miller and George Kirby tonight, being just straight up non-competitive. Absolutely. Yeah, again, when we talk on the, I don't know, macular level, I don't know if that's a word, the macro size of like why the Mariners fell short once again, you know, even though they got as far farther than they've ever gone before, why did they once again fail at the ultimate goal,
Starting point is 00:27:04 which is to go to and win the World Series? Why did that happen? We will talk about all of that because it's important. in particular the starting rotation, which this whole thing was built around. The whole premise was get this rotation into the playoffs and see what they can do. They weren't good.
Starting point is 00:27:23 They were okay in the Detroit series, pretty good for the most part in the Detroit series. They were garbage. Like you bookended this series with your best starts. Kirby tonight, Bryce Miller in game one. Was it, I mean, Luis in Game 5. They got him out pretty early. No, it was Bryce and Game 5.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Sorry, yeah, Bryce in Game 5. They got him out pretty early, but he was fine. So, yeah, you're just one of those things where you kind of look at it and you say, look, tonight it's about Dan Wilson. On the whole, why did you fall short again? You're starting pitching. If you're starting pitching just pitched like they did last year, we would be on our third day of previewing the Dodgers Mariners World Series.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's just the reality. You got nothing from Logan Gilbert this series. You got nothing from Luis Castillo this series. You got one good, let's decent start out of George Kirby, not much length, but that's by design. So one good start out of Kirby, one disastrous start out of Kirby. And that's it. Like you had two good starts in this series. Really, if you want to be like really picky about it, you got one good start in this series.
Starting point is 00:28:40 that was game one. And your bullpen had to cover a ton of innings. Once again, and we've talked about this, this is not a deep bullpen. And when you have to run Bizarro out there, pretty much, the Mariners played, what, 12 playoff games? I think Bizarro pitched in nine of them. Like, that's insane. Like, your starters have to go deep into ball games.
Starting point is 00:29:06 We talked about this all year with Logan Gilbert, how this is a problem. People need to be paying attention to this. Stop staring at the strikeouts. Stop staring at the swing and miss. He's only going five innings to start. And he's struggling to do that sometimes. Like, we need to talk about this. This needs to be a thing.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And while he's getting with, so I think he's going to be fine. And whoops. Whoops. Whoops. Here we are. I really hope, and this is going to sound weird, I really hope we hear about some small surgeries for these guys this winter. We know Bryce is going to have the procedure to clean out his elbow.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm hoping Logan has something small that they need to do as well because what we saw like if we were doing a least valuable player in the seven game series it is Logan Gilbert with a bullet and that's factoring in nothing from Dom Kanzone and nothing from Victor Robles that's fine I don't expect those guys to do a ton I expect my staff ace to not get knocked around the ballpark every time he goes out there so yeah I think Logan was a disaster this year I think this was his worst year by far and I know a lot of people will jump out of the strikeouts, the FIP, the blah, blah, blah, the he had a great war, even though he only threw 120 innings, blah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:19 That's not what I'm paying Logan Gilbert for. That's not what I need Logan Gilbert to be. I don't need Logan Gilbert to be a guy who gets 230 strikeouts and 200 innings. I need Logan Gilbert to be a guy who goes 200 innings with a low three, high two ERA and doesn't walk guys and is competitive and doesn't have to throw 25 pitches to get through every single inning. And he didn't get that all year. you certainly didn't get in the playoffs. And yeah, I think it's only fair to throw the caveat on there. What if Brian Wu didn't get hurt when he did?
Starting point is 00:30:50 Sure. Yeah. Could that have changed the series? Yeah, it might have. It might have. I'm not going to say it wouldn't. But again, your starting pitching overall this year was a major disappointment. And in the ALCS, it is the biggest reason why you lost.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm just going to say this. now. You and I have kind of like jokingly talked about this. You know where I'm going to drop the mic on this. Are we going to end it on this time? No, no, no, no. There's something else that I want to end on. Maybe we should save it then. Because this feels like a drop the mic moment.
Starting point is 00:31:24 No. This off season we're going to talk about a lot of guys. Here we go. We're going to do our offseason plan. And you know, over the years we've talked to, over the years we've jokingly talked about like, oh yeah, they should go sign one.
Starting point is 00:31:40 even though there was no chance of them doing that. They should go sign Otani. Yeah, yeah, exactly. This year, if Terrick's school will is legitimately available, if the Tigers are going to screw around and not actually pay him, the Mariners should absolutely do whatever they can to acquire Terrick Scoobel this offseason. I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I know it was coming. I'm not joking. The mirrors should go after Terrick's school in this off season, assuming that he's available. he shouldn't be the Detroit Tigers should just pay him let me make that very clear yes last we heard their offer was four years a hundred million dollars for the best pitcher on the planet
Starting point is 00:32:21 or second best pitcher on the planet yeah doesn't sound like they're serious does it but if they're going to screw around the marries have the pieces to make it happen one of the only teams that do and if any team that's looking to take the next step could use Terrick Scoobel it's absolutely the Seattle Bears
Starting point is 00:32:43 especially after what we just saw over the course of this postseason sure so there you go that's the hill type is going to die on this winter cat's out of the bag now sure that's what I've been thinking about for the last couple weeks no yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:33:03 we'll have time to get sentimental about this team and and all that but I want to take a couple of minutes to at least get sentimental about just the ride we've gone on over the course of this year with you guys specifically. And I just want to say thank you to you guys. We have continued to grow this channel and just continue to grow this podcast in general in a huge way. And obviously a big reason for that and a big thanks is to the mayors, obviously for playing great ball and for giving us, you know, a really nice draft to talk about and a great trade deadline to talk about and, you know, Cal Raleigh for having
Starting point is 00:33:47 a historic season, all that. The first division titled 24 years, getting the closest they, they've ever gotten to the World Series, all that stuff, right? But just thank you guys so much. It has been incredibly humbling, especially over the last few weeks, to see how many of you have tuned into our show. We have seen viewers. counts that we haven't even gotten close to in the past. And it's it's been amazing to see. And I hope you guys stick around here. We're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:34:24 If you're new here, that's not how this works. Like we're, we're continuing to do podcasts. Like just because the, the season ended doesn't mean that we're, we're done. So the real season starts tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah. The off season is the real season. This is where we really make our money here. is with the off season. And, you know, Colby and I, you know, if you're, if you're not super familiar with us in our history, like Colby and I really like connected because we both love the off season and transactions and all that stuff. Like we're absolute nerds for that stuff. So we're going to give you guys tons of great offseason content this winter.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So I hope you guys stick around for that. But again, just thank you guys on the bottom of my heart. for coming along on this ride with us, for being a part of this thing. And yeah, let's, you know, have a great offseason. But, you know, it's starting a little bit sooner than I was hoping it would. But, hey, I mean, it's better than a most years, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah. But no, on a serious note, obviously, it's been an awesome ride, you know, and I wish it was still going. I mean, you know, we're still doing shows, absolutely, and we're hoping to carry some of this momentum. But we know naturally that a lot of you guys are going to phase out for seeing those views, nose dive is going to, that's going to hurt. It is. I mean, it's going to take a little while for us to like normalize that again.
Starting point is 00:35:57 But, yeah, it's been an awesome ride. You know, it really has some of the biggest hits in Mariners history have happened. Some of the biggest outs in Mariners history have been recorded just in the last month alone. I mean, we had the greatest regular season series in Mariners history. We had, you know, we had so many home runs and we've had division titles. And we've had despite how terribly he played, Leo Rivas is author of one of the biggest hits in franchise history. E. E. E. Emil S Juarez, this was his swan song as a Seattle Mariner. Heck of a way to go out with his game five today, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:35 But, you know, it really was just an incredible run with a lot of great highlights that, you know, eventually will make this sting a little less going forward. But for now, it sucks. It feels like, you know, you left something unfinished. And there's plenty of reasons why. And there's plenty of things to talk about as we go forward. But, yeah, thanks for joining us. Thanks for going on the ride with us. Thanks for hopping on late if you did.
Starting point is 00:37:03 We wish we were still doing shows talking about. this team going after their first World Series title. It just wasn't meant to be, but that doesn't mean we're going anywhere. That doesn't mean we're going to be, you know, less attentive. It doesn't mean we're going to be doing more boring shows. And it also doesn't mean that we're not going to stay here and keep poking Seattle Mariners ownership with a stick until they actually do something because that's how I show my love.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I'm not going to sit here and let you just get away with, oh, this is good enough, right? No, it is not. We will sit here. we will poke you with a stick. We will scream into the void until this is absolutely the off season to spend money, by the way. Let's make that very clear. Yes. And we will keep poking those guys with a stick.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Even if they think we don't know ball, we will continue to poke them with a stick. We will use our platform to demand that this team spend money, that demand that this team puts a product out on the field that the fans want to watch. And what do you know? Look at what happened when you actually invested in the ball club a little bit in July. Now do it over the winter. have 40,000 people on a Tuesday night in May. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:38:08 This franchise has done it before. You can do it now. You've never had this much momentum. Do not drop the ball like you did in the winter of 2022. You cannot do it again. And we're going to keep poking these guys with a stick. We're going to keep calling them out for this until they get it right. We're not going to silence us.
Starting point is 00:38:27 You're not going to buy us off with a game seven of the ALCS appearance. No. World Series or shut up. that's the goal. And we're going to keep poking these guys with a stick until we get it. And that's what you can, that's what you can expect this winter. So on that note,
Starting point is 00:38:43 that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown mirrors podcast. For Colby Pat node, I'm Tadden Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore mirrors. You can follow me at Tading Gonzalez and Colby at C-Pat 11. That's C-PAT-1. We're also on Blue Sky.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby, and the show at Lockdown. Mariners. You can also find us on Instagram at Lockdown Mariners. Have yourself a beautiful baseball day and we'll see you next time. Peace. Go amps forever.

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