Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Our 2024 Seattle Mariners Trade Deadline Plans

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

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With a little under two weeks to go until the trade deadline, Colby and I will tell you what we would do if we ran the show in Seattle. Plus, we'll give you our thoughts on the Marries draft as a whole coming up here on the Locked-on Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariner's podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Wednesday, July 17th, 2024.

This is Tad of Gazz and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Marys Podcast. part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, every day. So during the off season, of course, we give you our offseason plans for the mayors. Today, we're going to give you our trade deadline plans for the mayors. Colby and I have each come up with a trade deadline plan of our own. Before we get into that, though, we're going to talk about the Mariners' entire draft class now that it's complete. First, shout out to our title sponsor today. Prize picks.

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The mayor has made 20 selections over the course of the last three days. We talked about the first eight of them on Monday's show. Now we're going to dive into the rest of the class now that we have the full picture in their day three strategy a lot of right handed pitchers colby they took a couple of position players but overall it was right handed pitching heavy so out of those guys who stood out to you uh the two things that stand out a lot of right handed pitching uh obviously but also uh 19 of their 20 selections college guys only one prep guy um it was a good one a really good one that they're going to have to go significantly over slot at.

We learned today that Sloan was one of the guys they were considering taking at 15. So obviously they really like this. They feel like they had got two first round picks, essentially. Sloan's going to get $3 million. St.J's going to get a slot, which is about $4.8 million. So those two contracts or those two deals have already been reported. They're not official until they pass a physical, but those numbers are in. And because they're giving Sloan $3 million, they have to save some money.

somewhere in the top 10, and they did that, and then some, and that's why they could take a guy like Aidan Butler, who's probably going to require slot. You could enter the draft again next year if he has a good year at Florida State and get a good chunk of change. So Butler is probably going to be overslots, that makes them interesting. Dinoffrio, the outfielder from North Carolina,

just a really tooled up guy, plus speed, can play all three outfield positions very well. There's some pop in the bat. So that's an interesting name Christian Little, the pitcher from LSU. He's been on the draft radar for like five years since he decided to go to LSU. So he was a really interesting prospect as a prep. And then he just never really found it at LSU. There's pretty good stuff there, but there's not consistency with both stuff and control and command.

So he is just, you know, a blanks, you know, basically a blank canvas. And the Mariners are going to try and rework him entirely into something that can get to the big league. So little because of his history as a prospect, draft prospect. Certainly interesting. And the Mariners feel like a good team to take a shot on a guy like that. One of the guys that really stands out to me in the back half of this is Wyatt Lunsford Shankman from East Carolina. He is known as the law firm. Shout out to Ben Jarvis, Green Ellis.

Very interesting guy. Definitely somebody we're going to talk to Joe about whenever we get him on. It has been described as a bowling ball sinker and a wipeout slider. So lots to like there, probably reliever profile, but maybe not, pretty good size. I can possibly handle a starter's workload. We'll see what they want to do with him. but he was considered by a lot of people to be a day two pick. And he felt pretty much the end of day three.

So he might be a guy that the Mariners spend a little bit of extra money on to get signed here as well. And then just one other thing of note here, Ryan Piccolo, the 20th round pick, their last pick from St. Joseph. He's the son of the Royals GM. And if you remember, the Royals drafted Jerry to Potos son like three years ago, Jonah. though I mean is there a little you know a little something there to that or do they think that piccolo's like a legitimate prospect or what's going on there but it is funny to note that you know they take the GM's son they take the royals GM son a couple years after the royals take the Mariners GM's son

in the last round of the draft that's now to be fair the the royals GM at the time when they took Jonah to the photo was not this guy no no it's dating more but right still funny Still a funny little connection there. Jonah, by the way, now pitches for the Phillies. He was traded. So, yeah, it's interesting because one thing we know, Jerry told his guys, we're not drafting my son. Like, we're not going to, like, he's going to make his own path, right,

into the professional rank. So don't do me this favor or anything like that. I wonder if, you know, I wonder if there was a similar discussion here with Piccolo and his dad of like, yeah, you got to make it on your own type of thing. but I just thought that was funny. You know, Brandon, I think it's Ike. I think so. BCU, Tyler Locklear's teammate,

and he's a third baseman, could also play some outfield. He's got some power, some interesting hit tool there. But yeah, this is a draft for the pitchers, for the arms. And, you know, day three, I feel like Christian Little and Lundsford Shankman are probably your best bets to be the Logan Evans, Brandon Garcia type of day three guys that the Mariners have had pretty good luck

finding and developing and getting value out of these day three guys that they've traded a couple of them after about a year for like legitimate players. So day three is not quite a throwaway. Most of these guys will be nothing. But the Mariners do seem to have

really good luck on these day three arms in particular. And they've really turned a couple of major leaguers out of day three. A couple of, you know, top 15ish prospects out of day three. So you definitely have to keep an eye on these guys. But to me, if they're going to do it with any of these guys, little Ike and probably Luns for Shankman would be at the top of my list. Yeah. So as you mentioned, there have been quite a few notable day three selections or just selections within rounds 11 through 20 since Scott Hunter joined the front office as the Mariners director of amateur scouting, J.P. Sears,

who's now part of the A's rotation. He was traded in the Nick Rumbleo deal. Cade Marlow, of course, Carter Benz, who they traded for Tyler Anderson, Andrew Moore, who was part of the Louis, Luis Castillo deal, William Fleming, who was part of the Carlo Santana deal, Darren Bowen, who was, of course, included in the Horace Polanco deal,

Troy Taylor, who's shown some nice things down in AA, Darren McCacken, Brandon Garcia, Logan Evans, There's quite a few day three or rounds 11 through 20 guys that they've been able to identify that have been interesting, at the very least, have developed into somewhat of an asset to use and trade. So, yeah. Player development, you have to draft and develop. Don't forget the development and the Mariners are very good at both. So you have to keep an eye on all these guys. But yeah, there are some that, oh, and by the way, Harrison, Creeling, creling, not quite sure I pronounce it.

Apparently, he was a favorite of the area scouts across the league who sat in his region. There is just a lot of upside there and a lot of really good metrics that make him an interesting arm. So, yeah, the Mariners definitely took some traits. Probably going to talk to Joe about this whenever we have him on. But I imagine he's going to like the ones for Schenckman pick the most. That would be my guess. Yeah. So we're going to have Joe on the show on Friday, actually.

So tomorrow we might actually do a fan fiction Friday on Thursday. Colby and I will talk about that. And then if we're going to do that, we'll send out the tweet tonight for you guys to submit your trades. Now it's our turn, though, to give you our trade ideas. Colby and I have crafted an individual trade deadline plan for the Mariners. And we're going to go over both of those in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Marries podcast is brought to you by booking.com and game time.

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deals in a second. We also have one unique deal apiece. So we're going to go get into those first. We'll start with Colby's. So Colby kicks things off here by targeting Tigers infielder Andy Abagnas and has the mayor is trading them. Jonathan Classe, just straight up, but one for one, Clacei for Abanias. So Colby,

walk us through this deal. So yeah, Abanya is an interesting guy. He's had his moments in the past. You get him for four years, four years after this year. But I believe he'll be Super 2, so he will be ARB eligible.

So it's not a rental per se, but it's also not a super high impact bat. But Ibanez does do a couple things as well. He's a really good defender, particularly at second base, but he could also play third base and shortstop. So there is really he could play all four infield positions. So he's help off the bench.

But the main reason I'm targeting him. This year he's hitting 390, 424, 623 against left-handed pitching. That is a 192 WRC plus. My plan, you know, could I go get a full-time second baseman? Probably could have found somebody, but I didn't find anything that fit with the rest of the plan. And so I look at his Bonnier's as a third bad. as a platoon guy who could play second or third maybe against left-handed pitching.

And then also occasionally play against right-handed pitching. It also frees up Dylan Moore to play the outfield if need be. So I think the Obanias edition is, let's get a little bit more defense in our infield and on our bench. Let's get somebody who crushes left-handed pitching, who very realistically could hit Bith against lefties in the right lineup, but also can play short if we need them to. Can play third.

Mostly we need them to. To play second and is not making really any money this year. So it's a cheap bench upgrade who's going to start about 35% of the games for the rest of the year. But I think when you take a look at the combination of players that I'm adding to this lineup, Ibaneas will make sense when you look at the big picture of things. And yeah, Class A trading six years of Clossay. I know a lot of people like them.

You guys know that I'm not really a huge fan of him. But you're trading six years of Class A for four and a half of Ibanias, if you want to keep him for four and a half years. Basically, you're trading a fourth outfielder for a utility infielder. And that's, you know, assuming Clossay ever becomes a fourth outfielder in actuality. So, yeah, just the idea, you know, I'm going to trade from an area where, you know, Clossay is really not going to help me that much. I'd rather have the bat off the bench than the speed off the bench. And I like I Bonnier as a defender more as a more versatile and just better defender coming off my bench than I do.

Somebody like Clause. So thanks trading a 22 year old for a 31 year old, maybe, but that's the way it goes. So my idea here is Brandon Lau. I have the mayor is getting Brandon Lau from the Tampa Bay raise. Try once again to address second base in a meaningful way. and I have the mayor is giving up Ty Pete, Jeter Martinez, and Will Sconberg, who's this

23-year-old, they recently signed, and they've actually helped him figure some things out. He's technically the strikeout leader for the mayor's amongst all mayor's pitchers down in the minor leagues this year. So yes, Lowe has so many injury concerns. We've talked about him in the past, but he hasn't played more than

a hundred games just once over the last three years, just 109 games in 2023. the most games he's played is 149 in 2021. He hasn't even really gotten close to that in any other year of his career. And yes, the raise probably want to get out from under this money as well. But we're talking about a guy that's currently running a 134 WRC plus in this market at a position where there are going to be very few options. We're talking about it's probably Luis Renhifo, maybe Nico.

Horner, maybe jazz chisholm, and that's probably it in terms of like everyday second baseman you could feasibly acquire at the deadline this year. And he also has two club options. The next few years at a reasonable figure. It's $10.5 million next year, $11.5 million dollars the year after that. It's a $1 million buyout. If you decline it in 2025, it's a $500,000 buyout in 2026 if you decline that one. If you're the Mariners, if you're paying this if you're paying this kind of package you know tie p jeter martinez scombergs whatever uh you have to assume that you're picking up that club option in 2025 yeah uh you cannot view him as a rental if you're if you're paying that so that's kind of the idea uh he crushes righties uh he's

more than fine against lefties he gets on base he doesn't strike out a ton uh law's a good player and he's having a really good year so far in 49 games sure um you know walks a lot in general 10 plus percent walk rates every year. Usually, you know, closer to 11. Strikeout rate, you know,

this year it's 24.9% for the Mariners, that's good. For baseball, that's below average. 27% last year. So there is some swing and miss here. He's good enough against lefties,

but there is that natural fit there with Dylan Moore, just taking his at-bats. So, yeah, I think Lau is a guy that we've talked about a lot. Yes, this is Lau,

that we've talked about a lot over the last few years. I think he's been, you know, a favorite of mine, maybe ours. I can't quite remember. But we talk about him seemingly every offseason and he just makes a lot of sense for this ballpark and for this club. Not a great defender, but come on. Like, look what you're running out there now.

It's at worst. It's awash defensively between him and Polanco. So Pete seems really aggressive. We like Typeed a lot. But again, the potential to get this guy. The raise due to. Yeah. The potential to get this guy for,

what three years at really reasonable money like it's not a lot of money the raise aren't like it's not like the race can't afford to pay him this because he's not worth it it's just it's the way the race operates so yeah i think if the merriors make a major upgrade at second base it's going to be low it's not going to be horn or it's not going to be chisholm or anything like that so i think it's going to be lao would be where they would make their major upgrade uh so yeah i'm a fan of lao i still think the fits really solid uh so yeah i would i'd be pretty happy. Obviously there's injury questions just like there are with jazz, just like they're with Robert, but it's one of the reasons he's going to be available. So sometimes you have to take the

risk. And I know beggars can be choosers. Right. And I know Pete would suck. I really like Typeed a lot. I'd absolutely do this deal for Brandon Lau. If I could get it, if I could get it for this price, this is what it's going to cost at least. So yeah, I'm definitely interested in this. So like I said, we have both Colby and I both have our eyes set on a couple of the same guys. So let's get into one of them. That's Michael Conforto. Alfielder for the San Francisco Giants, obviously Pacific Northwest

native. Grew up a Mariners fan. So your deal here, Colby, is Conforto and right-handed reliever Tyler Rogers from the Giants for Dom Kanzone, Ben Williamson, and Michael Morales. So walk us

through this one. Yeah, Conforto is a rental who's having a pretty good year. Not a great year. Pretty good, though. Doesn't really help you much defensively. Not a high-on-based guy, at least this year. He's got left-handed pull power. He hits for a decent average.

He puts the ball in play a fair amount. And he is, I mean, at the very least, he's much better than Mitch Hanager out there in a corner. He's better than, you know, Dom-Can zone in a large sample in a corner. So Conforto is a pretty easy upgrade. To me, he hits somewhere in the middle of your lineup against right-handed pitching. I mean, Rogers is kind of the sneaky prize of this deal, though. You get him for a year and a half. He is a submariner.

So it is a different look out of this bullpen that the Mariners currently do not have. He's very good. He doesn't get a ton of strikeouts. It's not really his thing. On a ground balls, lots of soft contact. That's his thing. And again, it is a unique arm angle coming out of the pen that the mirrors do not have. This is the guy who is better than Ryan Stanig, not as good as Andreus Muno.

that we've talked about, the Mariners needing to acquire. So to get kind of one of your secondary bat, which I think Comforto qualifies as a second bat. You know, I think that's a fine second bat to go get who helps you in the outfield. And then you also on top of it get this reliever who's, I don't think, I wouldn't quite say he's high leverage, but he's really good. And he does things differently and it's a different look than anything you have in your bullpen than anything most teams have in their bullpen. How many submariner, like true submariners are there? in the game right now. This guy's one of them.

So I like that that brings that kind of look to this thing. In terms of cost, it's really hard to say. We just saw a year in two months of Hunter Harvey go for a ton. Rogers is at least as good at Harvey, if not better. But you're also throwing on Comforto's contract onto that, which the giants don't need you to eat, but it's not like it's a bad thing if they save a little bit of money as they kind of retool for next year.

So yeah, the price is a little bit, up in the air. Like if they, like, if they said, hey, we'll do this, but we want Tai Pete, like instead of like Williamson or something like that, I'd do that. Like, I'd be okay with that because you're getting Rogers for all next year as well at what will probably be about $5 million. So really good value there as well. So I'm definitely open in this trade to, you know, maybe altering the prize a little bit.

But I do think a guy like Canzone is going to be of some interest to a team like San Francisco. They get a young major leaguer. They could play right away for the rest of the year, see what they have there. Essentially just replaces Conforto. And you get six years of that guy versus two months of Conforto. And then Williamson is a good prospect. Like, is he a great prospect? Is he a sexy prospect?

No, but he's a pretty good prospect. Pretty good get there as well. And so, and obviously Michael Morales is an interesting rising prospect who could be pitching in the big leagues in, you know, 12 months, which is, you know, something that's going to be interesting. So, you know, I think this deal of anything is a little light maybe, and I would be willing to add something to it. But like I think the most I'm willing to go for this package would be like Pete, Canzone, maybe a Jeter Martinez type, something like that.

So flexible, but this is just to give you an idea of like, hey, I wanted to try and get a Canzone trade in here because I do think that guy's going to carry some value to a very specific type of team. and I think San Francisco is that team. So I do think that can zone for Conforto, like straight up even, would be a really interesting trade for both teams. But obviously, Jerry doesn't like to give up that much club control. So I thought by getting Rogers in the deal as well,

kind of kill two birds with one stone. So my Conforto idea was just Conforto straight up. And the Giants get Ben Williamson and Ricardo Kova, who's 20-year-old infielder, outfielder, who's had some success down in the Complex League and the DSL. he hasn't played affiliated ball yet state side but I also have them taking on the contracts

of Jorge Polanco and Luis Arias just to kind of offset some of the money so Conforto I did the math on this Conforto is still owed $7.3 million for the rest of the year Polanco is owed 4.2 if you include his buyout it's 4.9 then there's

$2 million left on Eres's deal as well. So I don't have the the giants chipping in any money to make up the difference, but it makes up most of it. It's about $1.1 million off in terms of just 2024 payroll is concerned. But Conforto is a really nice fit. Obviously, you know, the Pacific Northwest connection, so that's a nice little story. But it's slashed in 237, 310, 438, 112 WRC plus this year. He's actually held his own against lefties this year as well, so he's not unplayable in that regard.

historically though he's been a 93 WRC plus against lefties so you probably don't want him facing lefties as much but he's fine like you can use him like 93 WRC plus is a disaster yeah broblos and more you can you don't have to sit him against every lefty but you have options there if you want to yeah all right so we have a big target that both of us share we'll go over that in just a moment but first a reminder this episode of the locked on mirrors podcast is brought to you by price Pryse Picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps, on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six players stat projections and watch the winnings roll in. You can now win up to 100 times your money on prize picks with as little as four correct picks. You can turn $10 into $1,000. Price Picks is available in more than 30 states across the country, including California,

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It's that easy. And you're listening to the Locked on Mariners podcast. Once again, Mariners will kick off the second half of the season on Friday against the Astros. You can catch all the action on the Marriss hometown broadcast. with SiriusXM via the SXM app. All you have to do to find that is search the word Mariners. So now it's time for both Colby and I to essentially swing for the fences. We both have the same target in mind.

Actually, a couple of targets. You'll see in a second here in mind with the Chicago White Sox, of course. So Colby's deal here is Merris Get Luis Robert Jr. And Michael Coppec from the White Sox for Harry Ford, Lazaro Monta. Tyler Locklear and Michael O'Royle. For three and a half years of a high impact potential MVP level player, it's going to cost you a lot. And to get that guy without trading one of your young starting pitchers

without trading your best prospect, it's going to cost more on the back end too. Could you maybe, if you include Colt Emerson, could you maybe keep like a Tyler Locklear? Maybe. Is it worth it? No, not to me. It's not. So, you know, I don't want to give up Emerson. So, you know, you take him out off the board.

You have to get creative on the backside. You have to get aggressive on the backside. This is a guy. There's going to be a lot of teams vying for Robert. Chicago is one of the only true sellers on the market right now. So, yeah, I gave up four of the top 10 prospects for guys who, I mean, two of them are certainly top 100 prospect types. The other two, you know, I know that, I know that Locklear is on some top 100 list. and a Royal probably should be

or he's getting really close to it. So is it aggressive? Yes, that's the point. You have to get aggressive to get a guy like this because forget, you know, just forget in general. Like how often do you have the opportunity to add a player like Robert to the Seattle Marriers,

a guy who's still entering his prime, a guy who's club controlled, who's cheap, who's produced at the major league level, how often do you get a shot to add that guy to your roster? You really don't because, you know what? You don't become a free agent at 26, 27, And even if you did, are those guys going to pick Seattle? Are they going to choose to sign with the Seattle Mariners?

History says no. So you don't have a lot of opportunities to go get this guy. And yes, there's huge risk with the injury. I get it. I understand it. I'm troubled by it too. But you don't have a lot of opportunities to go get a player of this magnitude. And sometimes you have to take the shot.

And when you look at how they drafted this time around, if you look at how they've developed the last few years, I'm confident that the Mariners farm system is going to be fine, and it will rebound back to these great heights. And this is what you have a farm system for. It is not to brag that, oh, we have a top five farm system. Who cares? Who cares?

You want to win at the major league level. That's what you have a farm system for. And if you're not, if you can't, you know, or it doesn't make sense to wait until all these guys get up and just cross your fingers and hope they're as good as you think they can be, you trade them for players who can help you now. and Luis Robert is the type of guy who can swing, you know, the pendulum of power in the American League, not just the AOS in the entire American League, American League.

If Robert is that guy for the next two months, the Mariners are going to be considered by a lot of folks favorites to go to the World Series. Because if he's that guy, you're as good as Baltimore. You're as good as New York. You're better than Cleveland. Is there a risk that he's not that guy? Of course, it's only two months. You never know what you're going to get with these guys. But to me, it's a bigger risk not to go make a move.

like this and just sit on your hands and hope that these guys all get to the big leagues in a couple of years and hope that the guys on your current roster figure it out it's just it's it's it's a bigger risk to do that so i'm going to be aggressive i'm going to go get that guy that's the best guy on the market i got to pay more than anybody else is willing to pay fine so be it i'm doing it and look if you're hesitant to do this deal because of the state of the team the state of this offense oh louise robert can't fix it alone all fair points but look louise robert under club control for three more years after this year. This might be your only opportunity to acquire him, like Colby said.

So if that's true, right, if he's going to move at some point over the next two weeks, you got to do it now. It doesn't matter what the context of your season is. If you really like Luis Robert, if you really want Luis Robert to be a mariner, you got to do it now. So it doesn't matter what else is happening around you. It doesn't matter what the build of this current team is because, again, I get Luis Robert for another run at it for the next three years after this. as well. So my idea here for Robert, it's also Robert and Kopeck. Look, with Kopeck real quick,

yeah, he's running an ERA north of five. Yeah, he's got a high walk rate. Yeah, he's got a negative F4. But he gives the mayor something that they just don't have a ton of right now in their bullpen. That's swing and miss. Consistent swing and miss. I want that guy in this bullpen. I want that fireman that it's do or die. I need to strike out. Yeah, things could go sideways. upside of being able to get a strikeout in that moment is what's most important. Now, we've talked about this a little bit on the show. If the White Sox just want the best prospect package overall, I don't think there's a team that can outbid the Mariners except for the Baltimore Orioles.

But if they want a pitching headliner, that's where we run into a little bit of a problem here. So how do you circumvent that? Unless, you know, hey, maybe they think Logan Evans is that guy. But this is assuming they don't think Logan Evans is that guy. And that if you're able to provide a headliner pitcher from your own organization, it's Miller-Woo. And obviously, you don't want to do that. How do you circumvent that? So I scoured every single team across the league.

I factored in how much pitching talent they have in their farm system. would they be willing to swap a pitching prospect for a position player? Doesn't even make sense for them to do this with where they are. Would they be interested in Robert themselves? And would they actually be willing to help you land Luis Robert? All those things. And I finally landed on the Pittsburgh Pirates. I think they're a really good fit for this.

So I have the Marys essentially trading one for one, Lazaro Montes, for Bubba Chandler. The Pirates have a ton of pitching talent. in their farm system that is relatively close. And they obviously have guys like Paul Skeens and Luis Ortiz, Jared Jones, at the major league level, Mitch Keller at the major league level as is.

So they trade Chandler for Montas. And I thought about Cole Young. Cole doesn't make a ton of sense because he's close and they already have O'Neill Cruz and they're going to have Tamar Johnson come up within the next year or so. So that didn't really make a ton of sense. Harry Ford makes quite a bit of sense for them because Henry Davis hasn't panned out and any Rodriguez is hurt. But I felt like Montes made the most sense for the pirates in the end. But I'm also trading Harry Ford.

He's going to the White Sox. Aidan Smith is going to the White Sox. Emerson Hancock is going to the White Sox to give them a guy that could start for them right now can give them at the very least innings. And Tyler Guff as well, give them a, you know, a guy to, take a shot on and work with and see what's there essentially and guff's having a pretty solid year this year as well uh down on the miners so that's the big swing right there uh again there are a lot of different ways that you can attack a louise robert trade but again if pitching is important to the white socks that's how i would go about it yeah um essentially giving up the same uh co

headliners really from a mariner's perspective they're giving up las and ford to kind of grease the wheels. And instead of just giving last straight to the white socks, you're just redistributing a little bit. I do wonder if the back end of that package is going to be enough. But I suppose that the white socks really want a pitcher in the deal, then it might be enough. And obviously Hancock's a guy. They could just slide into their rotation right now and kind of see what they have. So I, you know, I think in that deal, the White Sox would have to, like, be prioritizing pitching to get that done because in my deal, it's just four bats. and they're really good prospect bats.

And one of them's big league ready or, well, one of them has big league seasoning, I should say. And the others are pretty close, pretty close to the big leagues. Well, Ford's pretty close relatively in Arroyo, the way he's sitting right now. He might move pretty quick. So if they really prioritize the pitching part of it then, then yeah, you might be able to get them with one high end pitcher and then some pitching bulk. And then obviously Aidan Smith is a wild card there. And I really don't want to trade Aden Smith. but for Luis Robert, I mean, I kind of can't say no.

So yeah, it's a, it's an interesting approach. And it's just kind of funny that we, we ended up on the same player, essentially giving up the same co-headliners of the deal. Just one of your co-headliners is going to a third team. So, yeah, it's going to be expensive. Like, it's going to be expensive, but it's worth it. So my plan was very expensive, right? I gave up Tai Pete. I gave up Jeter Martinez.

I gave up Ben Williamson. I gave up Harry Ford and Las Montas and Aden Smith. But guess what? My farm system still has Cole Emerson. It still has Cole Young. It still has Felton-Celisthen Celestin, Gerangelo, Sanger, Johnny Farmelow, Michael O'Royle, Tyler, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That's a pretty damn good farm system still.

And that's what we've been saying, right? Get aggressive with your guys. because even if you do get aggressive, right? I think the brand allow trade is very aggressive, right? Even if you get very aggressive, your farm system is still in a really good spot because of how well you've drafted and developed these guys. I mean, you look at the deals I've traded five, four or five of the top ten. And it's still a good farm system because now I'm adding Sanja, now I'm adding Sloan.

And now I'm adding all these other pieces. And that's not counting the players that are getting better who are staying in the system as we speak. So get aggressive with it. The Mariners can turn a, you know, mediocre to bad farm system into one of the best in baseball in a two-year span. They can do that. How do I know?

They've done it twice. Yeah. Twice in the last five or six years. They've done it. Trust that you can do it again and again and again and again and leverage the farm to try and win something of relevance at the major league level. That is the point. That is why we're here.

And by the way, if money is a. concern for you. I didn't even add $10 million. Just a little under that. 9.65 when you factor in Polanco and Arias and the Conforto deal. So that should, that should in theory appease Mr. Stanton.

It should and Ty Stanton over here next one of my trades because he didn't think it was realistic for Mr. Stanton but because because it wasn't the trade itself. It was that Colby was then going to DFA Mitch Hanager after we should do anyways i mean they should they should we've talked about this but will they

no i'll believe it when i see it i'll believe it when i see i don't know maybe i'll believe it when i say it maybe all right so so let's quickly um well here let me give go over just a couple of house cleaning things here so to make room on the 40 man roster i'm bringing in four major leaguers uh i'm sending out two or two guys that are on the 40 man roster and polanco and hancock so uh mike bombin's getting DFA'd, Duke Ellis is getting DFA'd. I'm setting Ryan Bliss down to AAA, and then when Canzon's back from the IL, he's going to AAA. And that gives me some depth, because injuries are still going to probably crop up over the final two months of the season.

Sure. I'm adding four big leaguers. I'm subtracting three from my 40 man, so I'm just going to DFA bomb, and I don't have room for him in my new bullpen anyways, and he's out of options. So that's how I make that work on the 40. Yeah. All right. So let's get into our.

lineups real quick here. So for me against Ritey's, I got Brandon Low leading off. Julio hitting second. Luis Robert hitting third. Cal Raleigh hitting fourth. They might do Raleigh third and Robert fourth just to break up the lefty-righty thing.

Luke Rayleigh 5th and playing first base. I'll get into that in a second here. Michael Conforto playing left field hitting six. Josh Rojas 7th, Mitch Garver, 8th, J.P. Crawford 9th, with a of Mitch Hanager, France, and Victor Rubless and Dylan Moore.

And then against left-handed pitchers, still going with JP leadoff because JP's actually been really good against the lefties. It's a 144 WRC plus against lefties this year compared to a 73 against righties. Then I got Julio hit in second, Robert hitting third, Garver hitting fourth because he's still been really good against lefties this year, despite his overall struggles. Cal fifth, because while the bad, average isn't there against

against lefties still hitting for a lot of power it's like a 113 WRC plus against against lefties this year brand allow six uh because he's still pretty good still serviceable more than serviceable against lefties uh tie france seven so france does make the roster and he's essentially i hate this i don't like first base platoons quote unquote but i'm essentially running a first base platoon between him and and luke raley here uh france has still been really good against lefties this year. He's hitting for a 128 WRC plus against lefties so far. So that's the least useful. Then I got Richter Robles hitting eighth playing left field, Dillamore hitting ninth, playing third base with Hanager, Rayleigh, Conforto, and Rojas on the bench. So let's get into Colby's

lineup against Ritees. Do you want to go through this, Colby? It's J.P. Crawford leading off, Julio hitting second, Conforto hitting third, Luis Robert hitting four, Raleigh, five, Rayleigh. six france seven rojas eight uh polanco nine that's a bench of hanneger robles garver i banyaz because tie wouldn't be reasonable i have to have h annager on my on my team for some reason uh against lefties it looks pretty similar it's crawford hulio robert garver d a hing andy aban yes is going to hit fifth against lefties uh for me uh then it's cal uh france victor robles playing left field uh and Dylan Moore hitting ninth playing third base. That would be the bench of Hanager, Rayleigh, Rojas, and Polanco.

And then our bullpins, well, our pitching staves in general, Logan Gilbert, Luis Cassio, George Kirby, Bryce Miller. And then the fifth spot is Brian Wu, Logan Evans, and Jonathan Diaz. Bullpen. I couldn't decide. So awesome both or Colin Snyder, both has been shaky. And then Snyder's been really good. Trent Thornton, Taylor Saucato,

Gabe Spire, who's supposed to be back sometime after the All-Sar, break, Michael Coppec, Ryan Stannock, Gregory Santos, and Andres Munoz and Colby's pitching staff, Logan Gilbert, Luis Castillo, George Kirby, Bryce Miller. And then the fifth spot is Brian Wu, Logan Evans, Emerson Hancock, Jonathan Diaz, bullpen is awesome both. Trent Thornton, Michael Copac, Gabe Spire, Ryan Stanick, Tyler Rogers, Gregory Santos, and And Andre Smoonios. And that's about does it for our trade deadline plan. So let us know down in the comments what you think.

Which of us had the better deadline? And you know what? Since we give you guys grades all the time on your trades, give us grades between, you know, 20 and 80 on ours. I would like to say this before we go. Oh, boy. Your booze mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer.

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