Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Reaction: Mariners Trade Isaiah Campbell to Red Sox For Luis Urías

Episode Date: November 18, 2023

The Mariners have acquired infielder Luis Urías in a trade that sends reliever Isaiah Campbell to the Red Sox. Colby and Ty offer their general reactions to the deal and discuss if a second base plat...oon of Urías and Josh Rojas is in the works, why Urías' 2023 struggles could be a fluke, and what the upside of Urías could be.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Jase MedicalGet $20 off these lifesaving antibiotics with Jase Medical by using code LOCKEDON at checkout on jasemedical.com.FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We've got to trade. Luis Urias to the Mariners, Isaiah Campbell to the Red Sox. Let's talk about it here on the Lockdown Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Uh-huh, Hoy, sailors. It is Friday, November 17th, 2020.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 The link, as well as our social accounts, is in the description of this episode. Told you something was going to happen while I was away and couldn't record, but apologies for the delay and getting this episode out nonetheless. Most of you have probably seen it by now, but if not, the Mariners have made a trade. They have acquired infielder Luis Urius from the Boston Red Sox, for believer Isaiah Campbell. Arias is coming off an injury filled
Starting point is 00:01:33 2023 in which he was traded midseason from Milwaukee to Boston. But he's only a year removed from back-to-back strong seasons with the Brewers. So Colby, before we get really in the weeds, give me your general thoughts on this deal. I like it.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Don't love it. It's tough to love any deal for a player that is pretty much slated to be part of a platoon, but there's a lot of little fun hidden aspects in this deal that you can talk about. And I talked about some of them in my solo show on the Patreon, but there's a lot of fun little angles. You can kind of tentacle off of this one trade. But overall, I like it.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You know, it is a position of concern where you are kind of like right now, or before this trade, you were really counting on Dylan Moore to bounce back. and move. But are you counting on Ryan Bliss to come up and do something he's never done before? Yeah. But with your ears, you get a former top prospect, a former elite, borderline elite prospect, who's had a couple of productive major league seasons in the very near future,
Starting point is 00:02:44 a 20-23 struggle. That's pretty easy to explain away. And you trade a position of not necessarily strength, but a position of replacement, a position where you have replaced arms like the one you gave up every single season, literally in the middle of the season. In fact, Campbell was one of those guys that replaced an arm that you were counting on. So if you're going to trade from your Major League roster, trading from an area where you are a proven, you know, a proven, what's the word? You've proven that you can like replicate these guys and kind of create them out of thin air. So being able to trade from that position instead of, you know, maybe an area where you struggle certainly is preferable.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And so, you know, it's an interesting deal. It's a guy making a little bit of money who may or may not have been non-tendered today. So you might have been able to get them for cheaper money. But we don't care about money, right, guys? But it's six years of a guy for two years of a guy and only two years of a guy if that guy makes sense or that guy produces. So it's not a, you know, it's not a even club-controlled type of deal, which is something Jerry usually tries to get somebody with club control and a deal. So, yeah, overall, it's a bit different. It's a bit unique.
Starting point is 00:04:05 There are, again, a lot of different avenues we can go down when discussing this trade. But overall, I like the move. I think it makes a lot more sense the more you talk it out. I'm going to miss Isaiah Campbell. He was one of my favorites. I think we were both higher on him in the prospect ranks than Perala Borough before the season. And I feel like we nailed that. So, yeah, I'm going to miss him.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He's one of my boys. But, you know, this is the business. And I like Eureas. I like what he can bring to the table. And again, the more you talk about it, the more you kind of drill down into all these different, you know, tentacles from the main idea.
Starting point is 00:04:40 There's a lot to like about this deal. It opens up a lot of possibilities. Yeah, I think if Eureas is even just kind of a league average bat, I think this is kind of a home run of a deal. because again, you have proven time and time again that you're able to replenish your bullpen relatively easy, especially, like, it's a little bit different in terms of high leverage arms, but in terms of like mid-leverage arms like Isaiah Campbell, you've been able to find guys, you've been able to manufacture guys from within your organization, you've been able to find guys on the fringes. So I'm not too worried about that. And Campbell was someone that I would consider to be on the bubble of the bullpen. I don't think it was an absolute guarantee that he would make the bullpen coming out of spring training.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I think he's probably, you know, the sixth, seventh, or eighth guy in that bullpen, depending on what else they were, you know, they're planning on doing this off season. So I don't think that's a significant loss from that perspective. I think they're going to be able to replace his production relatively easy. And relative to who Eureas was for the, you know, last two years before this year, I don't think it's as much of an overpay as I've been seeing people say on Twitter. So, yeah, from that perspective, I like it. You know, you mentioned the potential platoon here between Eureas and Rojas, which that does make sense when you look at the splits.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But my hope right now, and it's very early in the off season, it's only November 17th. So there's plenty of time for the Mariners to do more here, especially with regards to second base. but my hope and a little bit of expectation here is that Urius and the presence of Urius is more of a push for Dillamore, Jose Cabiero, just more competition there. I believe Urius also has a minor league option left, so he doesn't have to make the 26-man roster out of camp. So for me, ideally, that's what it is. And then, you know, you kind of hope that he can produce and maybe he gets back to being an
Starting point is 00:06:41 an everyday player. And if he gets back to being an everyday player, that's, That's a grand slam of a deal for the merits, really, because this is a guy who historically doesn't strike out that much. He walks at an above average clip, 11.9% even this year when he was really struggling. And there's some context there. I mentioned that it was kind of an injury-filled season for him, and we'll get into that a little bit more in a bit here.
Starting point is 00:07:08 But I think this is a player that kind of fits what, we assume the marriage we're going to be targeting this off season, just in a little bit more of a roundabout way, right? Like, this isn't a guy that's coming off of a good season. This isn't a guy that I, for me, I don't think is guaranteed to make the roster. You know, but I also didn't think that, you know, Tommy Lestella or Cooper Hummel were making the roster. So who knows?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Maybe Eureas is going to be locked in and what the marriage do for the rest of the offseason is going to reflect that. But I don't think that he should be a guarantee. And I don't think that the mayor should proceed this offseason like Luis Eurias is a guarantee to really give them anything. I don't think you can bank on anything here. But there is a path here. And again, there's a lot of context here that says that maybe 2023 was just a fluke for Eureus and that he can still be the guy that he was in 22 and 21. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I mean, I would say a couple things about that. were you in on Jonathan India? Did you like that idea? Same idea. Same idea. Yeah. Similar type of players. Did you like what Josh Rojas gave you at the end of the year? Similar players.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Like, basically, this is a type of player that we've talked about the Mariners going out and getting to compliment a Rojas. So, you know, a guy who's mostly going to be on the bench, but we'll start against lefties and, you know, can play around the infield a little bit, has some upside. certainly. So yeah, I feel like, you know, this is a move that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:08:49 would have liked if it was Jonathan India, even though Eureas might be a better player than India right now. I mean, it's, obviously, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:57 Ria is coming off a terrible year, but that's pretty easy to explain, or it's pretty easy to, you know, talk yourself into why he really struggled
Starting point is 00:09:05 this last year. But, yeah, if you liked the idea of Jonathan India yesterday, you probably like this idea because you got Eurias for,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I'm going to assume about 20, 25% less than you were probably going to have to pay for India. Well, yeah, and if the Reds are being unreasonable about India, if they are just straight up asking you for Brian Wu or Bryce Miller, I mean, I'm taking this deal for Eureas 10 times out of 10, like if it's just between the two, right? So, yeah, so I think it's an interesting shot for the Mariners to take. I think it's an interesting flyer, and I don't think that they gave up anything prohibitive here personally,
Starting point is 00:09:42 because again, even the biggest depoto regime detractors have to admit that this regime has been very good at manufacturing mid-leverage relievers. All right, so we're going to talk a little bit more about the seal, and we're going to tell you why we think 2023 could be a fluke for Luis Urias in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Marys podcast is brought to you by Jace Medical. You know, we spend a lot of time talking together, you and I. We get fired up together on wins and losses. Who starts and who sits. I'm thankful for that connection we have. But today, I want our chat to be a little more personal.
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Starting point is 00:11:38 For Luis Urias, they send Isaiah Campbell back to the Boston Red Sox, a very simple one-for-one deal. And Eureas is coming off of a very bad year in 2023. But before that, 2021, he was worth 2.3F4, I believe. Let me double check that. Yeah, 2.1 F4 in 2021. And 2.3 in 2022, he was a 112 WRC plus guy, which means he was a, a 12% better header than the league average hitter and then 110 WRC plus in 2022. So 10% better than the league average in 2022.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And this year, the reason that I said earlier that I think 2023 can be a fluke is it was riddled with injuries for Luis Urias. Like the guy really couldn't catch a break. he had a head injury in spring training, then a hamstring injury that put him on the 60 day IL, and he missed the first two and a half months, I think, of the season, three months of the season. Then, you know, of course, with, you know, really no time at all spent on the field in the calendar year of 2023,
Starting point is 00:12:57 struggled once he got back on the field. And then the brewers traded him to Boston. He also had, what was the last? other thing he had he had another injury towards the end of the year and he finished the year on on the aisle i believe um so there's a wrist yeah something i i looked quickly at his injury history so um a lot of start and stop for ureus in 2023 and you know it's a little i was going to use the comparison of malick smith missing you know spring training or like dillamore this past year missing spring training but it's a little bit different because euryas actually
Starting point is 00:13:34 he played in the wbc he played for most of spring training before he suffered the hamstring injury it was pretty much towards the end of spring training that he suffered that um but we do know that when guys get hurt especially early on in the season it can derail their entire season because it's just it's hard for them to get going once especially like for urea's coming back like three months into the regular season everyone's at full speed everyone is very well conditioned for the season And meanwhile, he's trying to play catch up. And so that can easily spiral. So, yeah, do you think I'm on to something here?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Do you think, like, this could actually be a fluke here for Eureus? And really, at the end of the day, if he can stay healthy, he's probably more so the two-win player, two-win-ish player that we saw in 2021 and 2022. Yeah, because when I look at the numbers, I don't see a deterioration of skills, necessarily because I look at the, I look at things like the whiff rate and it stayed roughly the same. I looked at things like walk rate, it stays roughly the same.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I look at things like chase rate and it stays roughly the same. He's above average in all of these metrics each of the last three years. Now, his average exof-vilo took a pretty big dive, but again, that's pretty easily explained by the fact that he missed two and a half months. It takes a while to get your timing back. And then he suffered another injury at the end of the year. So, you know, we saw, remember, John, Josh Rojas, got off to a slow start, missed a couple months,
Starting point is 00:15:03 he came back. It took him a couple weeks after he came back before he really started to roll. So when I look at the underlying numbers, I look at chase rates, I look at whiff rates, I look at walk, I look at strikeouts. They're all right within norm. And then the one thing I see that, it's not a norm and took a serious dip is average exa feel which is something the Mariners value. So on the surface, you would say, like, well, he doesn't check that box, but it's not normal for a guy to dip, you know, 10% in one year in that metric that points to something else
Starting point is 00:15:36 happening, particularly again, when chase rate, when whiff rate, when walk rate, when strikeout rate, when those are all the same. He's still making similar swing decisions. He's still putting the ball in play a similar amount. And the numbers are that drastically different. Tells me there was something going on, a little bit of bad luck, a little bit of an injury history. I just don't see anything in the numbers that suggest that he's like toast or that he that he's cooked at 20. 26 years old. So, you know, when I look at the numbers, I look at, did he, did he drastically change how much he was swinging and missing like Thai France?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Was he expanding the zone more than he ever has? No, he wasn't or not to a degree that's like noticeable at least. So, yeah, I tend to think that this was mostly injury. I think it was a, you know, a season where everything that could go wrong kind of did. And at the end of it, you look up and you're hitting a buck 98 and you're, you're, you're thinking, you know, wow, this is a hole I can't pull myself out of. So, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And despite hitting 194 this year, he still got on base at a 337 clip. I mean, that's pretty impressive relative to the batting average. Now, he didn't slug at all. He had a two, what, 299 slugging percentage? That's awful, especially when, again, you know, he played about half of his season in Boston. you know, you definitely want to see those slugging numbers go up. And not just in the over the wall department, like, need to be hitting from more doubles.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Because that's going to be a big part of his game because he's never been a high average guy. Right. But, you know, he's only two years removed from hitting 23 bombs. And again, we've talked about this in the weeks leading up to the off season. Like, if you can get power output from a position that typically doesn't produce a ton of power, like second base that's great that's awesome like you're your plus
Starting point is 00:17:32 in that department if you can get that so yeah that's that's kind of the hope here and at the very least it gives you ideally for me at least it gives you more depth
Starting point is 00:17:44 on your bench and then you know we'll see if they want to do the platoon here with Rojas if that's actually the plan if that's just the plan that they want to roll with that second base
Starting point is 00:17:53 that wouldn't be my preference but there also aren't a ton of options to get better at second base either this offseason. So you kind of have to be realistic about this. So, you know, maybe this is what they just end up rolling with. But again, it's November 17th or 18th, depending on where you live and what time you're watching this. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see. It's very early.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But, again, I like the steel and I like the upside of this deal. Yeah. It's a very high floor deal. Basically, no shot you lose to a significant degree. So, yeah, like I said, I think it's mostly injury for last year. I've just, again, I don't think that 26-year-olds just suddenly forget how to hit in particular when they're not expanding the zone, when they're not, you know, when their walk numbers don't tank, when their strikeout numbers don't spike. Like, I just, I don't see any reason to suspect that this is anything. other than an injury happening.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah. So or injuries getting in the way. So yeah. And again, he's 26 years old. We're not talking about a 31 year old, right? Which is usually like, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You know, it could be nothing. This deal could literally be nothing. And, and I think that's fine too. Because again, I just, I'm not losing sleepover training and Isaiah Campbell,
Starting point is 00:19:22 frankly. No, you're taking a shot. Right. And if it hits, great. If it doesn't, not a big mess. And if it's just a neutral trade, oh, well. But I'll tell you why in just a second. I'll tell you why. I actually think this deal has some serious upside. And why it could be Jerry Nipono's best. Not counting all the good ones. You're listening to the Locktime Marreras podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen. That was more of a lead into an actual ad break. But, you know, whatever. Good, good job. Good T's. Good T's. Uh, so, so what, what is this upside you speak of, Mr. Patnode? Right. So first of all, let's start here. Uh, you mentioned the, the plan is probably Rojas and in Urius platooning at second base, except what if it's not? Because what we have heard is that the Mariners are getting plenty of interest in Gino Suarez. And we sat here and we've said, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:23 what are you going to do? I mean, maybe you could trade Gino, but are you going to, now you have to replace them at third base. How do you handle that? Well, with Eureas, either Eureas could play third base if you believe in the bat, or Rojas and Eureas can shift to third base in platoon there,
Starting point is 00:20:39 if necessary, because both of those guys are actually better at third base and they are at second base. So it does leave open more of a possibility that you could trade Gino. Now again, if you do that, and you shift those guys over, you still have to find a second basement, but who knows? And maybe Glaber Torres makes sense now or something like that, right?
Starting point is 00:20:59 So it does give you another option at third base. It gives you kind of two avenues to get better. If you can find a third basement you think is better than Gino, fine. If you find a second basement you think is better than those two guys, then you just shift them over and you go and you get the second basement. So gives you multiple avenues. But the reason that I'm interested in this deal is, or I think this has potential to be a big deal,
Starting point is 00:21:22 is that I look at what Urius was just two years ago, right? Even last year it would have been fine. And I say, what of the Mariners find the tweak, the tweak? And they get the right voice with the right player and the right adjustment. Is it possible that Ureis could hit 260, 270 with 25 bombs? Because his career high is 249 with 23 home runs. Yep. is that an insane possibility?
Starting point is 00:21:53 No, it's not. And if that's what happens, he's better than a Eugenio Svarez, unless Gino has another incredible gold glove season. Yeah, what he was. Yeah, unless like Gino becomes 2022 Gino. Yeah, if you get 2022 Gino offense and 23 Gino glove,
Starting point is 00:22:09 then that's like a four and a half, five one player. So, you know, that that's different. But is it outside the wrong possibility that they've added this apparently, like mechanical hitting genius?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like he's very good with mechanics in, what's in it, Brandt Brown? We've seen the Mariners kind of make these small adjustments in the middle of seasons, and it works. They made an adjustment with Josh Rojas, he took off. They made an adjustment with Julio in August. He took off. They made adjustments with Cal Raleigh. Like, this is not a team that is incapable of developing hitters. And now they've added this apparent guru that everybody seems to think is like a top five hitting coach in the game.
Starting point is 00:22:49 they've added him to their staff. They have a track record of developing young bats now. It's getting bigger and bigger every year. Jared Kelmick took another big step this year. Cowrallie took another step this year. You look at what Cabrero did. You look at, you know, what all these other players did, Rojas when he came here.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And it's just sometimes, again, it's just about the right voice at the right time to the right player. We saw J.P. Crawford go from a 100 WRC plus bat to a 135 WRC plus bat in one. one off season because he got something. He heard the right thing from the right person. He executed it well. And he improved by 30%.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Is Eureas going to do that? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. He's kind of the same prospect pedigree that Crawford was. He's younger than Crawford was. He actually had seasons of well above average offensive production that Crawford hadn't really had before. So is it possible that Eureas could be 10% better?
Starting point is 00:23:47 not only get back to what he was in 2022 or 2021, could he get 10% better than that? Yes, he could without doing a whole heck of a lot because if he walks the same amount as he does, if he strikes out the same amount as he does, and he gets that average, that career average, from 235 to 250, which is one hit every 10 days.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And if he hits two more home runs over the course of the entire season, that's a player who can play second base, that's a player who could play third base, that's a player who could fake it at shortstop who's going to hit 25 home runs have you know if he hits 250 his own base percentage is going to be 360 right around that range and if he's sitting 25 home runs he's probably slugging 420 to 450 somewhere in that range and all of a sudden you have an 800 OPS really good defensive third baseman who can also play second base hit 25 home runs now you've changed things now you've changed the outlook of your offense because essentially
Starting point is 00:24:43 what you've done is you've added teosker hernandez who can play defense in the infield. You've got a viable replacement for Gino. Now we're not asking who's the starting third basement in 2025. It's Urius. Of course it is. He's also 26 years old. Huh.
Starting point is 00:25:01 That kind of fits the model, doesn't it? Isn't that the type of player the Mariners look to extend? There's a very not, it's not even that crazy. You don't even have to go like, well, if he could just improve by 35% like J.P. Crawford,
Starting point is 00:25:13 he's an all star. No. If he improves by 10%, over his career norms, you've got a borderline All-Star in his prime. He's technically not even hit his athletic prime yet. That's not for another year or two. There is a lot of upside in Urias, and he also allows you to, you know, shift your focus either this winter or in the off season because of the versatility he brings.
Starting point is 00:25:36 You don't have to play him at second base. You can play him at third base. You don't have to play him at third base. You can play him at second base. And if all he does is get back to what he was in 2020, 2021, 2022. And if all Rojas does is get back to what he was before this last year, the Mariners who had a 70, I believe it's the number 70 WRC plus at second base are going to have a 100 to 110 WRC plus at second base. And if you're telling me that a 40% increase in offensive output
Starting point is 00:26:09 from one position isn't a significant upgrade, you're off the reservation, my friend. You've lost your mind. That is a huge upgrade. And again, we're not dreaming on this. We're not hoping that Ryan Bliss comes up as a rookie and puts up a 130 WRC plus. We're simply asking two veteran players to do what they've done for a vast
Starting point is 00:26:32 majority of their career. And if they do that, the Mariners will have improved either at second base or third base anywhere between 10 to 35% over the offensive output they got at that position last year. And again, we're not asking for a miracle.
Starting point is 00:26:49 We're not asking what happened to J.P. Crawford last year, I'd stop short of calling it a miracle because there was a lot of hard work put into that. But when's the last time we saw a 35% increase in offensive output from a league average bat? It doesn't happen every year, guys. We're not even asking for that. We're asking you to get back to where you were and maybe find another 5% each. If you do that, if you do that, then Eureas all of a sudden is not just the fourth best back. you've added. He's one of the most
Starting point is 00:27:18 valuable pieces moved this winter in a trade. A third baseman with a 125 WRC plus and plus defense, massive. Is it ridiculous to think that Eurice could get there at 26 years old with a fresh start here in Seattle? An organization that's just hired this
Starting point is 00:27:34 mechanical hitting genius or whatever and has a track record of getting more out of guys when they come over from other teams. Is that ridiculous to ask? Nope, it's not. Right. and also make no mistake both of these guys can coexist
Starting point is 00:27:49 on the bench as well so this does not prohibit the Mariners from doing anything else at that position third base second base whatever doesn't prohibit them from doing anything like that but again
Starting point is 00:28:04 options though are limited on the market so this might be what it is it's not sexy but there is a path you're going to be a lot more happy when you need a double off of a Raldas Chapman
Starting point is 00:28:19 and the Rangers in the 9th and it's not Jose Caviero coming off the bench it's Louis Urius all right so incremental changes matter right and this has the potential
Starting point is 00:28:30 to be more than incremental yeah no it really does because again we're talking about a former top prospect again who you mentioned has had multiple years of offensive success of being what is considered an everyday player by F-war standards.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Once you get to that two-win threshold, you are considered an everyday player. He has two seasons like that already under his belt, and now he's entering his physical prime, his athletic prime. And yeah, you know, the injuries are obviously concerning, but they're also potentially an indication here that his struggles this year kind of a flu.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It's a really interesting shot. It's more than fine. And, you know, we'll see how everything plays out roster-wise once we get to February, right? And we'll see what it all looks like, and we'll see what, you know, they believe Urius's role is right now. And maybe they don't even know that just yet.
Starting point is 00:29:36 They might not know that just yet. Yeah. And, like I'm not trying to tell you guys that Eureas is going to be an all-state. star, he's got to earn everything. He's got to earn the opportunity to show that he deserves to even, you know, be a platoon partner with Rojas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He's started from the ground zero. Okay. He's got to build trust with his coaching staff. He's got to put in the work. And he has to earn his outbats. They're not going to be given to him. But if he does, if he does, it's going to be a really high impact move at multiple positions for the Seattle Mariners.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And all it cost you was a middle reliever. As much as I like Isaiah Campbell. I'll go get that guy yeah yeah really like Isaiah Campbell wish him nothing but the best in Boston
Starting point is 00:30:19 but I also think that the Mariners are going to be like I said earlier they're going to be able to replicate that that production fairly easy so and I think they have at least a couple of guys already
Starting point is 00:30:33 within the organization that are more than capable of doing that and including prolander borougha so yeah So that's, those are kind of our thoughts on the Luis Urea Steel. I'm sure we'll have, you know, more opportunity to talk about this and see if the marries do anything else over the next few days.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You know, if something happens, we'll probably do a show. If something happens on the weekend, if we're both available, we'll probably do a show. So, you know, look out for that. If the marries make a move, I'll be around this weekend, which means that they probably won't. And then I'm going to be going out again on Tuesday. So that means that something will probably happen on Tuesday. Because of course, it's like Jerry knows or something. Maybe Jerry watched the show today.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And he was like, oh, I heard that Ty is going to be out of town. Time to say yes to that deal with the Red Sox that we've been working on. Sure. For the question of the day, because we've got to go. Where do you think Ty was all day? Let us know in the comments down below. I'm intrigued by the answers and a little bit scared. but intrigue
Starting point is 00:31:41 nevertheless it's Friday it's Friday night man people are watching this tonight the questions the answers could get unhinged but we got to go because we're already 37 minute day night I don't want to know where you thought
Starting point is 00:31:55 I was you keep that I'm going to leave it up to the people yeah that's going to do it for our show thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marries podcast for Colby Pat node I'm Tadang Gonzalez be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Mariners
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