Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Remembering Tommy Lasorda (Part II)
Episode Date: January 14, 2021Jason Hernandez is back with D.C. continuing to talk about the late, great Tommy Lasorda. Jason talks about the Dodger manager's run-ins with a couple of mascots, and also relays some personal interac...tions with Mr. Lasorda. They did not always talk about baseball; they would sometimes talked about one of their other favorite subjects: food. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day.
Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Locked-on Mariners.
I am not D.C. Lundberg. I'm, in fact, J.D. Hernandez.
And with me is D.C. Lundberg, the actual host of Lockedon-on Mariner's.
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And D.C., where can the fine folks listen to this show?
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subscribe to this podcast. And also, what else can you do, D.C.? That's about it. That's all I say
at the intro. In fact, that's more than I say in the intro these days. So, yep, that was Jason Hernandez,
former frequent guest here on Lockton Maritors. No, no, no, I'm kidding. That makes two now.
That's all right. Jason, thanks for joining us. And the reason that he felt, uh,
compelled to do that, ladies and gentlemen, but I'd already tried to record an intro twice,
and it did not work so well.
So it's third time's a charm.
Third time's a charm, and I didn't even have to do it, so thank you very much for that.
On the previous episode, we had started talking about the life and career of the late great
Tommy Lassort, a Hall of Fame manager for the Los Angeles Dodgers was there for multiple
decades, as it were, and I had a feeling this was going to go into two parts, and it absolutely
did, and Jason was just about to get on a wrong.
roll. So I'm going to step aside here for just a little bit, ladies and gentlemen, and let
Jason take it. Go for it, sir. Yeah. Of course you can chime in a little bit here and there.
Sure. So where we left off, I talked about Tomlisota and his derisive pitching statistics,
as it were. Yeah, I mean, he liked to make fun of himself a little bit. But that wasn't my
favorite story of Tomlisdora. Probably one of my favorite anecdotes that he says frequently, and
it always sounds better when you hear from the man, is him talking about the incident
in Philadelphia with the
Philly Fanatic. That
is always my favorite anecdote
and for me to even hear that in person
chef's kiss
all the time.
That was his favorite story
where he fought
the fanatic
and you know,
Philly Fanatic had a little blow-up
doll or I guess doll
of Toma La Sorda
and Lassorta, you know, kind of beat him up.
But that
that one is probably my favorite story
that he kind of said like
on that little radio thing that I talked about
but my favorite story
that he went into detail about
and I will remember this
to this day
so time of Lassorta
he came down to Ontario a bunch of times
and I actually mentioned this
on my Twitter
so I'm going to read it as is on Twitter
where time of Lassorta
he would often come to Ontario to watch indoor soccer
because his godson
Chris Leggio, he was a sponsor
for the team that I've worked
for at the clock and PA for them, the
Ontario Fury. And Tommy
was a huge fan of indoor soccer. He liked
it. He liked the fast action. And
Tommy would often come down
to the public address booth. I'd met him
multiple times because he came down to field
level a lot. And he liked to chat
it up with the players and coaches and whatnot.
And because I was in that
public address booth and doing the PA
a couple times, he'd come
down. And one of those times, he even
even like padded me on the back and said, you're the voice, huh?
I kind of joking around.
Like, yeah.
Nice.
So we chatted up.
And he loved telling stories.
He really loved it.
And one of the first times I met him, I told him, now, I believe Dodger Blue.
I told him that.
And he just kind of patted me like, that's good kid.
Like, yes.
If I can get approval from Tumblr, that's worth it.
Yes, it is.
But, you know, I ate up those stories.
and when I said he had great memories of Montreal,
he had multiple stories about Montreal.
There's one famous incident that you, of course, might know about in Montreal.
It actually sprung to mind when you were talking with the Philly Fanatic.
I think I know what you're talking about,
because it involves the Montreal Expos mascot, Yupy,
and I'll let you take it from here.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm going to say the Montreal Canadiens current mascot,
because I've got to bring a little bit of hockey into it.
But at the time, he was the Montreal Exposat.
Les Expos,
Yupi got ejected
from the stadium
because Yupi kept...
So in Tommy's words,
Tommy, this is according to Tommy Lus Order, by the way,
that Yupi was banging on top of the dugout
way too much.
And he could,
he could even hear some of the little,
like, some of the noises he was making.
Something that he didn't always say.
But when he told me this story,
he said, I swear God,
that guy in the suit
made so much bleepin noise
and he was driving me
freaking nuts
and this was the middle of a very important race too
at the time it was an important race
and it was an important game
this was in 89
so the Dodgers had just won the World Series
Montreal was kind of in it
the Dodgers were kind of in it
but Tommy was pissed off
so much to the point
and you know some of the video shows
like you'd be just laying down
on top of the dugout? No. According to
Tommy, he was causing
a ruckus or a disturbance
and making too much noise
that apparently the cameras didn't catch
or none of the microphones caught.
So that's why
Tommy Losota came out from the dugout
and just stared at the mascot
and just gave him like this mad dog
look. And according to
Tommy, he said, I'd had enough
I need to let the Empire's know
to get his you know what.
but out.
Yep.
And there's sad Yupy just leaving the stands and that was it.
Oh, the colorful Tom of the sort of stories that he had.
But he talked about Montreal in several stories.
He talked about the UPI incident.
He talked about the comeback, the Blue Monday,
where Rick Monday had a game-warning home run at Montreal
to advance in the playoffs.
He talked about that a lot.
But he also talked about just the atmosphere
of Montreal, how he said,
you know what, when that place was packed,
some of those fans were the loudest
SOBs ever, but the thing was,
I couldn't talk back to them because those
SOBs were talking in French, and I couldn't understand
a freaking word they're saying. Oh, beautiful.
I mean, that's his Tommy to a T.
He would make
a story even more colorful,
and those are the stories
that I ate up, just listening to them.
And the fact that he had multiple
Montreal stories, that
tells you that he either really loves it there,
or he really hated it there.
Either way, it was memorable.
That's for sure.
Yes.
We're just about running up on a break,
which means it's time for the trivia corner.
Today we'll do a hall pass,
and this gentleman enjoyed a 22-year major league career
in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Just the later part of the 60s,
the early part of the 90s.
He has a slash line of 289, 321, 408,
2,715 career hits,
498 doubles, 174 home runs, 1,2008 RBI.
He's a one-time batting champion.
He's led the league in doubles twice as well.
He is an all-star, and he placed in the MVP voting one, two, three, four, five times.
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jason um what do you think these are hall of fame credentials um i think one team would
argue that he's not a Hall of Famer.
Oh, so you know who this is.
Of course I know who this is. We've mentioned him recently.
On the very last show, as a matter of fact, I wanted to pick somebody
with the strong Dodgers connection. Who is it?
Some guy that's infamous in a certain world series,
that would be Mr. Bill Buckner.
It would be. And unfairly,
that one play should not define
his entire career, because those numbers speak for themselves.
He was an excellent Major League Baseball player and an excellent contact editor.
Yeah, but again, he's always going to be known for that one error.
Which is a shame.
It is a damn shame.
And that's another reason why I wanted to use Bill Buckner as a Hall Pass.
One of these days, just to highlight his career numbers, because, I mean, you, I'm not going to go over him again.
You can rewind and listen, but I'll say 289 career average, over 2,700 hits, almost 500 doubles.
The man had an excellent career.
Yes, very much so.
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D.C. Lundberg back here with Locked-on Anaheim Ducks host, Jason Hernandez, talking about the late
great Tommy Lassorta. He shared multiple stories from Mr. Lassorta. One thing that, I don't know
why this sticks out in my head, Jason, as it does, and it's a very small thing, but I think
it spoke lengths about what Tommy Lsorta felt about the Dodgers during Hideo Nomo's
rookie season or just after his rookie season. Hideo Nomo didn't speak in any English.
is a video clip of Tommy Lasorda
teaching Nomo to say,
I bleed Dodger Blue.
Yeah, it's one of my favorites.
Mine too. I'm going to let you go
once again, if you don't mind, since you're
the Dodgers guy and you've met Mr. Lassorda
on multiple occasions, so the floor is yours once again, sir.
Yeah, I was just going to chime in very quickly and say,
you know, Tomlisota talked about Montreal a lot.
One of my favorite profanity-laced stories,
and I'm not going to repeat much of it here,
but I will just say he had fond memories
of the time where he pitched
and also coached and managed
in one game.
You're asking how the hell did that happen?
He was pitching for the Montreal Royals.
This was towards the end of his career.
He was barely hanging on playing in the minors.
He pitched.
And then his manager got ejected
and had some very colorful words that I cannot repeat here.
And then I guess someone else got ejected.
So Tommy had to do it all.
That day.
And I'm just going to say there was a lot of profanity in that story.
But I ended up, and he was very happy to share it.
Yeah.
But something else that he loved to talk about, and I did mention this on my post because, you know, there's so many stories.
And I can't even get to all of them because there's just so many.
But he also loved talking about food.
He was such a foodie.
As of, you know, I'm a huge food.
you've seen me eat at baseball games.
You know this.
A lot.
Yep.
On my ballpark tour.
How much did I eat during that ballpark tour, D.C.?
Many, many grasshoppers.
Oh, a lot.
Oh, but the Ivars, like, I ate everything up.
No, in particular, during the ballpark tour,
when I had, like, three trips and two beers and a lot of food, it was a lot.
So Tommy loved talking Italian food.
and that was actually like an entire conversation him and I had.
Oh, beautiful.
Because, and the reason for this is because there was an Italian restaurant that I liked going to
up in the high desert up in Victorville.
And I said, yeah, this family knows what they're doing.
They have the authentic music.
They use the capers properly in some of their dishes.
And he said, oh, you know what?
Like, I got to be honest, being here in Southern California, you're kind of lucky
because there's some actually good Italian places,
but if he go to a place,
he actually mentioned,
I think he mentioned Denver
as being a place that didn't have a whole lot of quality Italian,
and he didn't like going there.
Really?
Yeah.
It's Tommy LaSorda.
He loves specific kind of food.
If there's a place that he doesn't like to go,
it's going to be up to him.
But he loved, loved going to San Diego.
He said two of his favorite road cities for San Diego and New York.
Obviously, New York having some of the best Italian food ever, and I'll agree with him on that.
In fact, my favorite pizza place of all time closed last year, unfortunately, which was in Hill's Kitchen.
Sad about that.
Devastated.
But he's a man that loves his pizza.
He loves his lasagna.
He loves his pasta.
We just, you know, talk stories.
and, you know, kind of gave me, like, a little tip on, like, how to properly prepare something.
So, like, damn, this is so cool.
Like, I'm actually talking and talking to some of the sort of, like, sharing food stories.
This is awesome.
I wish he would have released a cookbook.
That's not a joke.
I wish he would have released a cookbook.
He has his tritoria at Dodger Stadium, and he approves of all the dishes there for what it's worth.
So there's that.
That's awesome.
And he has had, like, some, like, cooking quotes here.
Like, he's talked about it somewhat, but not enough.
In my opinion, I mean, if you're going to talk to someone about Italian food,
he's going to be one of those guys.
And I think that's what endeared me to him was, you know,
like you'd have all these people gushing in this sense, like,
oh, it's Tommy Litton, let's talk baseball.
And then me, because I'd met him before, like, what do you want to talk about?
Let's talk about food.
Like, I'm game for that.
Like, I can talk about food all day.
and when I told him that I was a foodie
he said oh have you tried this place
and this was like damn it Tommy
like I love my food but I haven't been to place A
and place me there was one place that he mentioned
that I had been to and that was it
and he said oh you're missing out you gotta try this
so I did I eventually tried a couple more places
that he luckily told me about
so that's just the kind of man that he was
I mean he was very very
versatile in his stories.
It wasn't just about baseball.
He talked about other sports,
talk about food.
I mean,
that was one of his favorite things
that he liked to talk about.
We don't hear enough about.
We don't hear enough about
the non-baseball stuff.
Yeah, that's kind of good
to highlight on that
for this particular episode,
quite honestly.
Yeah, I mean,
it's stuff outside of the realm of baseball
that he also wanted to talk about.
Yeah, and I was going to mention
a couple other baseball-related stories.
I'm not going to now.
I'm just going to let you go.
Yeah, because there's so much more
Tommy. I mean, yes, he was with the Dodgers for 70 plus years, but, you know, he had his Italian
food. He apparently had steak in a couple of restaurants. He also has a winery.
Oh, does he?
Something else that doesn't get talked about enough because you know me, DC. You know I love my wine.
I think we talked about that's in one of your previous appearances. You can go in my cupboard right now,
and I have about nine different types of wine, folks. Nine different types. One for each inning.
Hey, there it is.
I might try. No, I'm not going to try that. No, I might.
Nah. Well, if I drink it at home and I watch nine innings on TV, that's fine.
I have had the lasota wine. It's been around for a long time.
It is delicious. I might try to look to get some more.
So, yeah. And he's really good. Oh, that's another story. Like another little thing.
he knows how to pair his wine and his food.
By the way, he was always a red wine kind of guy.
Him and you be 40.
Yeah, reds wine.
Anyway.
Sorry.
Yeah, I do like specific kinds of red wine.
I do like, like, I actually told him like, yeah, I like this tempera neom mix.
I like this kind of mix.
So I think he was kind of surprised as far as me personally that he wanted to
talk about something other than baseball,
which I think is great.
Yeah.
Wine and food.
Who knew?
Anything else, sir?
I just want to say that, you know,
I had the privilege and honor of meeting him several times,
and every time was more fun than the last.
And I got to take several, like,
he was always up with taking a picture with me.
We have maybe like eight or nine pictures,
and someone pointed this out to me,
and I just kind of laugh at this.
Or you see a lot of pictures of Tommy and he looks like he's tired or kind of scowling.
And two people have pointed out, man, you got lucky.
You got a picture of him with like a full smile on your picture.
Like, yeah, I kind of do.
That might have been a picture after we talked about food or something like that.
Nice.
That would get him that kind of smile.
Yeah.
But Tommy, I love talking to you.
I miss you.
Yeah.
Thank you for the stories.
That's all I can say.
Thank you for the memories, the stories.
I cannot forget them.
And I cannot thank him enough for those stories.
And I'm glad I could share them with you and the audience.
Well, I'm very happy that you were able to do that, Jason.
And before you wrap a nice little bowl,
I know you were in the process of doing that.
But I want to say that in terms of getting pictures
in which he looked like he was tired or scowling,
he wasn't a sullen individual.
He wasn't a grumpy person.
He tended to get tired towards the later part.
of these personal
appearances. That's what the issue was.
And as a man
who is not in the best
physical shape myself, I can understand
that. But it wasn't an attitude
thing with him. It was stamina.
Jason, you can go ahead and wrap it up now if you'd like to.
Yeah, but apparently talking about food
was the secret sauce there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But I just wanted to get it out there that he wasn't a grumpy guy
or anything like that. I just wanted to kind of, yeah.
Anyway, so
to wrap up, once again, thank you,
Tommy and you could hear my hockey podcast, which is Locked-on Anaheim Ducks on the Locked-on
Podcast Network.
The Twitter for that is at L-O-U-U-Ux, and my personal Twitter is Stimpy J-D.
And if you look at my personal Twitter, there's a great picture with me and Tommy.
And in fact, I'm going to do this right now.
I'm going to make that my pinned tweet because, I mean, my other pinned tweet was about
the trash gross.
I mean the Astros.
I'm like,
ah, you know what?
Let's change it up a bit.
Let's change it up.
The Dodgers won the World Series and Tommy was part of it.
Absolutely, yes.
And I love Tommy very much.
Yeah, very glad to have done that.
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Nice.
One final thing that just popped into my head.
I said I wasn't going to mention any baseball stories, but there's a Mariners story involving Tommy the Sorda.
At the 2001 All-Star game, and it has to do with Vladimir Guerrero.
We're running out of time, so I'm not going to say the full story.
I think you guys out there know what I'm talking about anyway.
but look up the YouTube video.
It's one of the more memorable moments of that All-Star game
when Tommy's Sort of was coaching third base.
Yes, Tommy's gymnastics.
Sorry, Tommy.
That's right.
When I was talking with my mother the day after Tommy of the sort of passed,
that's what immediately sprung into her mind.
For me, it was the personal stories, obviously.
Oh, of course, because you had the pleasure of meeting him
and speaking with him about things other than baseball.
And I did not have the opportunity to meet him.
But we're past time, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you very much again, Jason Hernandez.
He's already told you where you can find him.
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Thank you for listening.
Tommy Lassorta.
Thank you for everything.
This is Joey Martin for Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network.
