Roster Crunch?! How Mariners Could Approach Tough Decisions in Coming Days/Weeks

August 4, 20220 comments♥ 0
00:00It's an off day for the Mariners, so we're going to spend today's episode answering some of your questions.This is the Locked on Mariners podcast. Colby, hit it.You are Locked on Mariners.Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day.What's up, everyone?Welcome to the Locked on Mariner's podcast.It is Thursday, August 4th, 2020, and thank you so much for making us your first listen of the day.We are free and available on all platforms with new episodes dropping every single Monday.
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01:26We're going to be doing a little bit of a mailbag today.all day over the next 25 minutes or so.Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to answer everyone's questions because you guys submitted a lot.So we've condensed it down to, I think, 11 or so questions.And we'll try to get through all of those.If we run out of time, apologies.We might be able to do another episode a little later down the line and maybe answer some of the remaining questions or do another mailbag.This is probably something that we're going to be doing more often in general here now that the deadline has passed.
02:05There's no more trade talk.We're just kind of in the dog days of summer now.And, you know, we're just going day by day.Games happen.We'll talk about the games.And that's about it, really.You know, and anything else that's, you know, going on with the team.So, yeah, so we might designate some episodes to do some more mailbags and stuff.
02:24And we might do some that are Twitter exclusive.We might do some that are exclusive to our.YouTube comments. We might do some that are email exclusive. We'll let you know.So let's get into the first question, which comes from Elijah at the prophet Eli underscore on Twitter.How would you explain the Mariners as a whole to someone who is just back into baseball since 2008,asking for a friend, Colby? How do you explain this Mariners team?first of all that's a bold Twitter handle um second of all I guess you could tell your friendum that they're unexplainable uh I think the I think the one word you use here is is is
03:12chaos um the Seattle Mariners for the last year and change have basically been umyou know Murphy's law everything that could go wrong will go wrong and then somehow theywin anyways like it's it's pretty crazy it's hard to explain because we don't have a point ofreference like eli are you a football fan like i know some people get very upset about the wholeyou know oh you can't compare them to a football team thing and it's like well you can if you'retrying to help somebody out so uh it's it's a little tough to explain but uh i would say firstof all eli welcome to the mariners fandom or welcome your friend to the mariners fandom uh youdon't have to worry about us here. We're not going to judge you for not paying attention for the
03:58last 15 years because understandable. We're not going to, you know, talk about how we're better thanyou because we've been fans for so much longer. I don't care. Welcome aboard. Just enjoy the ride.It's chaos. It's, you know, times where your heart's in your, you know, in your throat as younervously wait for a pitch. It's, you know, getting blown out seven to nothing in the third inningand knowing it's over.And even sometimes being down one to nothing in the fourthand being like, well, they probably lost this game.So it's a little bit of everything.
04:33You'll get your full range of emotions watching this team.I guess, you know, I would just sum it up by saying it's chaos.And I mean, we could either do chaos as a ladderor it's chaos be kind, whichever one you want to claim.but it's a lot of fun it's a lot of uh there are a lot of emotions that you go through in a seasonum and it's uh it's a pretty cool community to be a part of when uh when everybody rallies arounda player or a team like they kind of are right now if you like jokes if you like memesthe mariner's twitter community is a great place to be uh for the most part for the most part
05:18that is uh but this mariner's team they're kind ofof the other guys, right?I mean, you know, you look atthe players that they have,even their best players, even guys like Thai France,like not a lot of people knowwho Thai France is. Not a lot of peopleknow, you know, looking at
05:36the national landscaperight now. Like, not a lot of peopleknow, you know, whatthe Mariners are compiled of, really.And I kind of like that, though.I like that they're kind of these underdogs,these guys that, you know,not a lot of people know of that are just going to
05:52You know, they're going to come to a stadium near you and kick your team's butt, basically.And that's, you know, that's what it is.And I like that.But this team, yeah, they're Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg.And the Astros and the Yankees, they're Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Samuel Jackson.Which I guess makes Scott's service the captain who won't stop voting TLC, which honestly fits.Creep, creep.Creep.
06:22Don't go chase in waterfalls, guys.So I actually want to address a common question slash complaint we always get on the channel, particularly in the comments, about how we refer to starting pitchers as, you know, number ones, number twos, number threes.There's a lot of folks upset with us, particularly you, Colby, for calling Luis Castillo and number two and number three.but this is how you and I have always kind of talked about pitchers and I've always at least me personally I don't know how you feel but I've always looked at when we say that as kind of a tier list right and number ones to me are the unicorns right they're the Jacob de Grom's the Max Scherzer's of the world and I think like while we can you know I think we can all acknowledge that while Louise Castillo is incredibly talented he's one of the best pitchers in baseball he's not Jacob de Grom he's not Sandy Alcantra he's notnot Max Scherzer. So I more so put him in the, you know, number two category. And there's always likelow in twos, high in twos, you know, high in threes, low in threes. Like they're the guys that areon the cusp, right? They're on, you know, they're on the fringe there of being a number one,right? If they're a high end two, like they can be a number one. And usually their floor is like a number
07:40three and and so yeah that's not to say that like louise castillo is a number three like he's like anumber three starter in a rotation but like that's kind of like his floor right and like his ceiling isblow in number one high in number two and so but again it's just like this is just a tier list rightit's like it's not actually you know what we think relative to the mariners rotation of course louisCastillo is the ace of the Mariners rotation.You know, before that it was Robbie Ray.Right. Like, we're not denying that.We're not saying otherwise.
08:15It's just like, if this rotation also had Sandy Alcantra in it or Jacob de Grom in it or Max Scherzer in it, I'm not putting, you know, Luis Castio over those guys.It's just what it is.Yeah.It's one of those things where, like, I think a lot of people, like, for example, I think the people who complain that I call Castillo a three, they think Marco is a three.and it's like, no.Marco may pitch in the third slot.He is not a number three.Marco is a number five.
08:44And kind of the way to look at it as an ace is like,there's like five of them, six of them.And basically to me,an ace is a guy who like when that guy's on the mound for your team,you win.Like you're going to win 99 times out of 100, right?And the one time you don't lose,the one time you don't win,
08:59it's Garrett Cole yesterday where he just has a bad inning, right?And that happens to everybody.Then you kind of had the number ones who are,who are, you know, a little bit below an ace.There's probably only five or six of those guys, really.Like Walker Bueller is probably one, not quite an ace.Max Scherzer is an ace.That's the difference there.
09:18And then number two is, again, just a little bit below that.You know, number three, I think people think middle of the rotation, like middle of the pack.No, number three pitchers are very good.And there's not, you know, there's probably, number threes, there's probably, I don't know, 30 of them total.And some teams have two or three or four of them.And then the biggest meat of the bell curve is four and fives.And most pitchers are four or fives.Like almost all of them are four or five.
09:49So when I say guys in number three,it still means he's a top like 50 pitcher and all of baseball.So it's don't take that lightly.I mean, Luis Castillo could be the,and the difference between 20 and 50, not that big usually.So number three is basically like, hey, he's, yeah,he's the top 20-ish arm.in baseball.
10:08So yeah,I think the confusion there comes from people looking atMarco Gonzalez is the number threeand that's just notthat's not accurate.Right, yeah, because like,you know,Marco is a guy that's going to be
10:20mid three ERAs at best,but he's likely, you know,in that four to four or five rangeand he's going, you know, he gives up a ton ofhard contact. He doesn't strike guys out.Like that's, you know,that's a number four at best, right?I think if we're being
10:36generous there. Marco on his best dayis like a number four pitcherfor the most part. Just in terms of likehis stuff andyou know just everything that he kind ofbrings to the table and like how it'syou know pretty much everything has to go perfectlywith the way that he manages contact
10:52for him to have a good day onthe bump and he's going to havethose days but he's alsogoing to have nights like the one that hehad in New York on Monday.So you know soso that's just hopefully that kind of clears things upyou know and that kind of gives people maybe a little bit of a better understanding as to what we're saying when we when we talk about these things and when we say like this guy's a number two this guy's a number three again that's not to say that he's a number two in the Mariners rotation he's not a you know he's a number three in the Mariners rotation it's not saying that and it's not even like besmirching these players as well because like Colby said even if you're number three you're probably a top 50 pitcher in baseball and that's really really
11:36good. Luis Castillo is better than that to me. Like I think he's top 15 right now. I mean,statistically he's been top 10, top 12 this year. So yeah. So, you know, I would say he's a,he's a number two because again, number ones, they're just, they're the unicorns. They're theunicorns of starting pitching. They're not, you know, like you said, there's maybe five or sixof them, if that. So, um, what would be the most,amazing bench the Mariners could field in the postseason.If everything went perfectly for the Mariners, the rest of the way, and everyone was healthy.And they had everyone at their disposal.
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13:36Next stop is Cole at Cole W. McKittrick.If everyone were hypothetically to get healthy,who would you consider the ideal playoff bench players for the Mariners?Colby, I'll start with you.Juan Soto, Fernando Tatis Jr., Ronald Acuna, Mike Trump.So let's see, ideal bench players.Well, you got to have a catcher.So that would be Cassali.
14:10You have to have, you know, some speed would be nice late in game.So to me, that's Haggerty.It's just the fastest guy on the team.It's either him or Julio.I'm not sure who has the sprint speed lead right now,but it's one of those two.And obviously, Julio's starting.So I think it starts with Casale and Haggerty.
14:34And then for me, I want a little bit of thump.off the bench, somebody I can play matchup with.I think that's actually going to end up being Jake Lamb.We'll see if you can stick around long enough.And then you kind of want, for me at least, I'm not worried about backup shortstopor anything like that.So for me, I'm just kind of looking like, am I carrying a platoon guy with me?And if I am, that's probably at this stage, either Santana or Lewis maybe.
15:02But I think for me, I'm probably looking at Haggurty, Casale.um,lamb and,uh,probably Santana.Mm-hmm.The other thing that we need to keep in mind here, too,is that if we're talking about just the wild card round,
15:19it's only three games at most.They're not going to need to carry all these pitchers.Right.I don't know how they,I think you can carry.I think you still have to carry a minimum of 12 in the playoffs.I think that's kind of how they count.interactive. But yeah, you should be able to carry an extra bench bat if you want it.
15:39At Zipkidc.W says, uh, or asks, does Ty want Ham Swaggerty, Sam Haggody, or Dylan Moore for the lastbench spot if slash win everyone is healthy. Also, Colby should rant about Dylan Moore. Colbyrant about Dylan Moore on command right now. Uh, well, I'm not your trained monkey, Chris.So, uh, no, I just don't think he's very good. Uh, I don't think he can hit.and I think he is at best,the fifth or sixth best option off your bench.So send him down to AAA,maybe he learns how to hit and maybe he is valuable.
16:14But until then, no.Like the answer is obvious.Haggerty is a better base runner.He's a better hitter.And he is just as good of a defender.The only difference is that they seem to trust Dylan Mooreat shortstop and not Haggerty,which, again,
16:29in a playoff series means absolutely nothing.All right.So Chris said,this is assuming the four-man bench is made up ofKurt Casali obviously Casalee's in thereJake Lamb, Kyle Lewis, and thenBlank. It's either Haggerty or more.I would pick Haggerty because he's hitting right now
16:50and he's versatile defensively.Put him in at a few spots, especially in a pinch.And he just continues to hit no matterwhat day it is. Whenever he's in the lineup, it seems like he'salways getting hit except for that one night in Houston.We're not going to talk about that.I would put Taylor Tremela in over here,over Kyle Lewis right now.
17:12If this is, again, another circumstance where everyone is healthy,I'm putting Taylor Tremel over Kyle Lewis because,I mean,he actually gives me value on the base pass and defensively.And there's a non-zero chance that he's better offensively as well right now.Like we'll see.I don't think Lewis is going.going anywhere. I think they should consider it, definitely. But I don't think you will. And then
17:39we'll see what they want to do because Tramel is working on his rehab assignment right now,probably be down there for another week or so before they make a, uh, a decision. He playedright field last night. We're expecting Hanager to be back tomorrow. But, you know, maybe they'd be alittle more cautious than that. But we'll see. They'll have to make a decision on Tramel pretty soon.And they could just option them back down to AAA if they really want to give Lewis the at-bats.But I think they should consider sending Louis.down and bringingTramela up, but we'll see what they do.
18:09All right, Christian Ryle atC underscore Rial 34.What is the plan for Marco andFlexen for 2023, giventhe current rotation setup?I wouldn'tbank on either one of those guys being in therotation for the Mariners next year.
18:25I honestly think at thispoint, despite, you know,how much, how belovedMarco is in the clubhousethat he might not eveneven be here exiting the winner.I would say that flexen might have a better shot of being on the roster than flexen does.But that also could be flexen as a reliever, as a long guy out of the bullpen, which I actually
18:52like that for him.I like that role for him.Marco, I think is going to have some sort of value.He's not going to have immense value by any means.Don't get me wrong here.but I think there is going to be some value for Marco on the trade market in the winter.And there was a report that the Phillies were scouting him during his last start at Yankee Stadium.Obviously it didn't go very well.
19:17And the Phillies, of course, did not trade for Marco.But it seems like maybe the Mariners are open to the idea of trading Marco at this point.And I, yeah, honestly, I'd be a little bit surprised if Marco was still a Seattle Mariner by the time spring training rolls around.Yeah, this is one of the beauties of the Castillo trade is that you can go into the winter, assuming everybody gets through this season healthy, which, you know, hopefully.But you can kind of go into the winter and be like, okay, we don't need to go out and sign, you know, Joe Musgrove.I know, I know what I mean?You don't need to go out and get the top of the market guy.You don't have to spend money on that.
19:55Yeah.Doesn't mean you can't.It doesn't mean you shouldn't, but you don't have to.Whereas if you didn't get Castillo, you kind of feel like we need that type of guy.so you have to go pay for it.You don't.So what you can do is you can kind of let the market come to you.And if somebody's like, say, Nathan Avaldi is sitting there in January and, you know,
20:12he can be had for two years, $35 million when he was asking for $4 and $80,then maybe you jump on that and you take advantage of that.And then that's when you decide to move on from Marco or flexin.But the beauty of starting pitching is that you're always going to be able to trade it.So you can just keep them all winter if you want and see what happens in spring training.but that is one of the hidden benefits of the of the Castillo trade is that your one through four is pretty much locked in and if Marco is your five or Flexen is your five fine like that's that's not bad that's not a bad thing but if the opportunity comes to kind of build this super rotation which it won't be but like if you can remove a number five and add a number three back into this thing in free agency or via trade then yeah then you can just flip Marco wheneverAnd they said, it doesn't have to be this winter.It can be at spring training.
21:06Pitchers are always going to have value,particularly starting pitchers who are healthy.So, yeah, they don't have to do anything in their rotation this winter.I suspect they still might.I think they might try to add something.But I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Flexon and Marco are both goneor either of them are gone.But I think it just allows Seattle to have that flexibility that if they go out and they can get a Jamison-Tyone or whatever, right?
21:31then like, okay, well, we'll say goodbye to Marco and we'll trade them and we'll probably get a nice bullpen piece or maybe a backup catcher or something of value that can help us elsewhere.So the Mariners rotation is in a good spot assuming they get through the rest of the season healthy.All right.So we're going to be talking a little bit about how the roster is going to shape up once guys start trickling in here during the next segment.But real quick, a reminder, this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by B.Built bar. If you haven't tried Built bar puffs yet, you are depriving yourself of one of life'sgreatest joys. And guess what? There is a new flavor. You ready? Delicious, indulgent cookie doughcovered in chocolate. That's right. Built has done it again. Let me introduce you to your new
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22:54So we have three questions to go here.Let's now answer Hunter's question.Question at Hunter Porton asks how does the roster look next week in your eyes?Presumably the three guys coming back from injury plus the two new position players we just acquired,interested to hear your guys's thoughts.So Julio is expected back after his 10-day IL stent.Doesn't seem like there's going to be any extra days away for Julio.I would assume that that means that either Abraham Toro or Jared Kellnick is going down.
23:29We also expect that Mitch Hanigar is coming back.back either on Friday or sometime this weekend.So that would also mean either Kelnick or Toro is going down.There's also Travis Jankowski, of course.So that's also a likely option there.Though I think until Julio gets back,Jankowski stays because of the centerfield defense at the very least.So I think it would be Toro or Kelnick on that front,
23:55probably Kelnick, if I had to guess.How much do you want to play Jankowski and centerfield.It's true.It's true.So I think Kelner, I think Toro gets sent down for Hanager.Yeah.And also they're going to be adding Jake Lamb to the roster tomorrow, I would, I would assume.
24:14That's going to happen.So that, that's where it gets a little difficult there if you want to, if, I mean, ifyou want to keep Kelnick in center field.So.I think I'm, I think I'm DFA in, uh, Jan Kowski at that point.I'll live with Kelnick in center field for a whileand then in a week or two when Tramel is healthyI'll have my center field emergency guy
24:41at least stashed in AAA.So I think for me,the two guys they're definitely going to add tomorrow,well,assuming they add Hanager tomorrow.Lamb and Hanager,to me,those guys replace Toro who gets sent to AAA
24:56and Chan Kowski who gets DFA'd.That's my guess.Yeah. And so, you know, Cassali, we got to see how long his rehab assignment is going to last before we assume that he is going to be back with a team next week.So that's possible. That's certainly a possibility here. It's not a guarantee yet, though, as far as I'm aware.but that one's very simple.That one is just Louis Terence gets DFAed and that's it.And I know that Chris had a question about, you know,that's a Zipkid CW about, you know,
25:30if they would keep Terence and keep three catchers over maybe, you know,sending down Kyle Lewis, I don't think that would happen.I don't think that would happen whatsoever.You know, Lewis is just, he's more valuable to youthan Luis Terence is right now.Even with Terence being able to catch,I just, you know, and even with Lewis's knee issues and everything and how limited his value is right now as he continues to work his way back from his knee thing.So yeah, I don't think there's any real possibility here of Lewis getting sent down because, you know, of course Taylor Tremel has started a rehab assignment as well.
26:09He's been doing that for the last few days.It's possible he might get activated at some point here in the coming week or so.so maybe that at that point they think about maybe swappingTramel for Lewis or they might just wait and let Tramelkind of work through some things down in Tacoma and then add him whenrosters expand to 28 next month so we'll see all right so we got aquestion now from and I asked I asked him how he pronounces his namebecause I was a little confused I was hoping to get a
26:45pronunciation guide hereso I could get it right onon the show. SoI'm sorry if I butcher your name here.I believe it isit's either Teagueor it's or it's Teagelike beige because it's
27:00T-E-I-G.Again I'm sorry forfor butchering your name if I did.He says, what's up guys? I'm a huge fanof Locked-on Mariners. Absolutelyloving the content. Thank you. Thank you so much.I'm an inspiringjournalist slash broadcaster and I was thinking of starting a podcast with one of my buddies in my sports journalism class.
27:22My question is, how you guys prep for a 30 minute plus discussion?How you guys go over pre-recording and all that?Again, big fan of y'all.I'm always waiting for your videos to come out after games and love your guys's opinions.Very nice of you.I appreciate that.So how do we prep for a 30 minute plus show, Colby?It takes a long time.
27:49Short answer is we don't.I mean, there's a little bit of truth to that.Some days, like, look, we got other stuff going on.This isn't our main source of income.Like, we'll be upfront about that.This is a passion thing, you know?And so sometimes we only have, like, five minutes to figure out what we're going to talk about.And that just is what it is.
28:13Other times, though, you know, we'll kind of take.talk throughout the week about stuff that we want to talk about,stuff that we want to do,maybe some fun stuff,like the mailbag today,like Colby brought that up a couple days ago after we recorded one of our shows.Sometimes we try to blend topics into our Patreon show as well,patreon.com forward slash control of zone.
28:33And,yeah,you know,stuff that we can maybe introduce on here and then flesh out on CTCZ.Yeah.but yeah so i think you know first and foremost here if you're trying to like start a podcast withyour buddy um that's great my recommendation would be do it and just you know um don't expect anybodyto to listen right away you know i mean like you can't start a podcast with the expectation
29:03that you're going to be instantly successful like maybe you will be and that'd be great maybeyou won't and there'll be times where you literally feel like you're just recording for yourself rightAnd that's one of those things.But it does have value because there is some therapeutic, you know, nature to just talking sports with Ty.I mean, you know, I'm one of Ty's best friends and he's one of my closest acquaintances.And so we just, we talk sports pretty much every day now.And that's awesome.So that is one of the bonuses.
29:32So I think when you're talking about prep for a 30 minute show, honestly, it's not that hard.It's a little different for Ty and I because we have to do, what, eight shows a week?so yeah there are going to be some days where we're like oh and colby and i are always we're generallyon the same page about how we feel on things not necessarily that we agree with one another'sopinions but we kind of already understand what one another's stance is on certain topics you knowbecause we're always like we're chatting and dms on twitter and stuff during games and and everythingand so we usually kind of develop what we want to talk about through that aswell because like Colby will hop in here before we're about to record and I'll just be like,
30:15hey, like let's talk about this thing that we're talking about last night. And let's just kind offlesh that out. Especially like with trade talk. With trade talk, we're always kind of, you know,like, all right, let's let's talk about this guy and how you would be able to get this guy or,you know, what have you. Um, so yeah. So I would say, uh, to you though, um, just record.That's it. You know, just record. Just do it for the love of it. I mean,We're still doing it for the love of it.We've been doing this for four or five years now together.And we, you know, obviously not just on Lockdown Mariners.
30:49But by the way, our one year anniversary of Locked On is coming up next week.Next week.So that's cool.That's cool.Yeah.I was just going to say like what Ty was saying, hit record.Just talk about what you want to talk about.Let kind of the conversation flow naturally.
31:07I think Ty and I typically have a pretty conversational.style to broadcasting uh broadcasting to our recordings it's pretty conversational don't beafraid to cut each other off you know don't don't be afraid to um there there's a little morestructure on locked on than what we do at like CTZ for example yeah just because we havedifferent responsibilities here at lockdown uh but i honestly i think one of the worst things you can dois try to uh is try to be like i'm going to be like you know mike saltor calling Coward.And I'm going to have like these very defined talking points.
31:45And it's like that can work sometimes.But for the most part,you just got to let it flow.And you kind of got to find your own style.Maybe you do work better in the structure or maybe you're more of a conversationalist.It can work.But you have to kind of be true to yourself and, you know, your buddy.And I would honestly, I would recommend you just hit record and just start talking.
32:04And things kind of take care of themselves.You can, you kind of get a sense of the flow and like when we need to take a break and when we need to stop.and when you need to let your partner speak.And, like, you know what I mean?There's like this flow that kind of gets built.And it starts with just hitting record.So as lazy as it sounds, like for you,if you're planning on starting your own podcast,
32:22which is great.I mean, I'm sure Ty and I would come on it.I think, honestly, hit record and just start talking about sports.And I bet you feel 30 minutes like, like it's nothing.And you'll look up and you'll be like,oh, man, we're at 35 minutes.We just started 10 minutes ago.We got to stop talking soon.
32:41There's a lot of shows that we do that ends up like that.This being one of them.This being one of them.Yeah, you have any other questions, man.Reach out to us.But again, I think the best advice I could give is just hit record.And put it out there, man.And don't be afraid.
32:56Put it out on YouTube.Put it out on Spotify.Those things are free.Don't be afraid to, you know, look down and see you have one view.Keep grinding at it.Keep doing it.Keep putting it out there.Be active on social media.
33:07And it's just like anything else, man.You grind.You find your style.and you get better at it as you go and go for the best.All right.So last question and we'll make this quick.This is from Frederick at Don't Call Me Fred on Twitter.Love that name.
33:21This one was just DM to me privately, but I liked it.I figured we could answer it pretty quickly.So what do you think we're getting in Felden-Selistine?I know you said he's probably going to be our number one prospect.Player comps, development track.So I don't have a ton of information on Felden-Selistine.You know, I only have a couple of people that I talk to you that are kind of in the know when it comes to prospects, particularly prospects are coming out of the international circuit. And of course, Felden and Celestine still hasn't signed with Mariners officially, but he is going to in January. There's nothing that's expected to get in the way of that. So he will officially join the Mariners organization in 2020, in January of 2023. So, of course, this is one of the most highly touted shortstop prospects to come out of the international pool in quite some time.We're talking like he has buzz that guys like Wander Franco had coming out.
34:15He's a legitimate prospect.He's a guy that's, you know, if he hits his ceiling before he graduates, he's going to be one of the top prospects in baseball.Solisstein is a switch hitter.He's grown quite a bit over the last year, year and a half.He's now 6-2 last time that I heard about a buck 80.And he's going to stick it short.There's no question about that.It's kind of the Edwinner Royo thing, really.
34:44It's he's going to stick out short, but now what?Is he actually going to be able to hit?And there's a lot of folks that think, like, he's going to hit, but he might not hit a ton.And so that's what's led to some player comps like Didi Grigorous, which I know scares some peopleconsidering the fact that D.D. was literally just released today by the Phillies.And that's not, he's a good player, but not, you know, that's nothing that you're going to get really, reallyexcited about here. But what you might get excitedabout is that there are some cops
35:13let's say that if he hits hisceiling, he's FranciscoLundor. The power,the hit tool, all of that.It's Francisco Lendor plus the defense at shortstop.There is a possibilityhere that Felon and Selesstein could bea Francisco Linder type. In fact,
35:29there are a lot of scouts that actually thinkthat's almost a given.There aren't many sure things,especially, you know, well, I mean,there aren't many short things with prospectsin general, but especially with the internationalmarket, there's hardly ever a surething. There's hardly ever a guy where
35:45Scouts will say he is definitively going to be a bigleaguer and going to be a star at that.Feldon-Selestine is one of the exceptions.He's one of those guys that I've actuallyheard from, well, notfrom Scouts myself, but from someone thathas heard from Scouts. Let's sayhe's the real deal.
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