Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Same Script, Different Day as Seattle Mariners Drop SECOND STRAIGHT ALCS Game

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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The Blue Jays have returned serve, and the ALCS is now knotted up at two games apiece. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, Hoy, Sailors, it is Thursday, October 16th, 2025. This is Taddy Gonzalez and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys Podcasts podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. This episode is brought to you by Fandul.

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This series is now tied up at two games apiece. the home team still hasn't won a game in this series. Hopefully that changes tomorrow as the Marys will look to get back on top before heading back to Toronto. We'll talk about how this game followed a very similar script to last night's game. All the mistakes and missed opportunities by the Mariners and look to what's ahead. I'm fighting through a cold right now, which is why you didn't get a show last night. I felt a bit better earlier today, but it's starting to get bad again today. So, yeah, if I feel or if I sound congested, that's why.

Anyway, obviously the baseball isn't helping me feel any better either. So, yeah, yeah, I'm not having a great time right now, folks. I'm not. So, yeah, the third inning crushes the Mariners again on top of a lot of other things, but it all starts with a third inning. I mean, this game pretty much following the same script as last night, didn't get as out of hand tonight as it did last night, but pretty darn close. It all starts with a, you know, a lead off double from the Jay's eight-hole hitter in the top of the third.

And then that gets immediately followed up by a two run, home run off the bat of Andreessen Mettis. Same same exact thing that happened last night. Mayers get an early home run. They get an early lead. And then that happens. and then the Blue Jays play add-on, and the mayors can't do really much of anything offensively as they continue a pretty rough postseason run offensively at T-Mobile Park.

So the mayors lose 8 to 2 tonight, and again, we'll talk about all the sloppy play and the missed opportunities, but it really just starts with the fact that you just got out executed in pretty much every way possible tonight. Yeah, I mean, you, you know, you let Max Scher go five and two thirds or whatever, get to the corpse of Max Scher really just dominate you. And it wasn't like his stuff was incredible. He was in the middle of the plate at times. And then you just, you know, when you fell behind 02 because you weren't crushing the pitches in the middle, they expanded.

So really, it's two nights in a row with very few quality at bats in this game. And the Blue Jays are a team that takes quality at bats basically every single. time they go up there. They don't give away outs. You know, the way you kind of counteract that, or the way the Mariners counteract that and the way that most teams try to counteract that is by hitting home runs. Well, the Blue Jays have out homered you the last two games as well. So they've taken that club out of your bag. You know, and I said this back in the ALDS, you know, that if the Blue Jays and the Brewers

are going to start hitting tanks, they're going to be very difficult to be. because that was kind of one of their only flaws for a postseason team. And the Blue Jays that absolutely destroyed the Yankees in the last two games, they've destroyed you, thanks in no small part to the home run ball. So, you know, it just, it is what it is. There was absolutely sloppy play on the Mariners part tonight. But any way you want to slice that the Blue Jays have just been significantly better than you, the last two nights, just as you were significantly better than them, the previous two nights.

So, you know, it sucks. You've lost home field advantage now, and you're going to have to win at least one game in Toronto, maybe two to advance. But that's what happens. You know, you got destroyed. I mean, you really have no right to complain. You had everything you needed in front of you, and you laid an egg in back-to-back nights and then top to bottom, you know. So, you know, I can't say I'm too surprised that Toronto's come back to win these two games. I am quite a bit surprised by how lifeless the Mariners have played, particularly at the plate.

But, boy, you know, we talk a lot about teams struggling to hit at Team Mobile Park. The Blue Jays do not, especially. They have 29 hits in the last two games. Yeah. You know, they've hit all the home runs that you talked about. They've scored, what, 21 runs in these two games. It's not counting what they did back in the regular season as well, where they crushed. at this ballpark. So the Blue Jays have figured out a way to hit Mary in T-Mobile Park.

So the Blue Jays, they're 5 and O at T-Mobile Park this year. The Mariners are 4-1 at Roger Center. Both of those teams go 5-1 at each other's ballparks. Hey, the Marys go to the World Series. So that's one way to look at it. But yeah, we're seeing why this is, or why this was ultimately a coin flip series for me. You're seeing both of these teams throwing haymakers at one another, not really in particularly the same game as one another, but definitely throughout the series. Yeah. You know, again, the, the mayor's dominated offensively.

They got into double digit territory in the second game in Roger's Center. Now, you know, the Blue Jay is getting into double digit territory yesterday. They nearly do so again tonight. And once again, the team that had on paper, the pitching disadvantage, one. So nothing about the series, like when you just look. look at the specific matchups on paper. Nothing about the series has really made a whole lot of sense, other than the fact that the Marins have been really good at Rogers Center

and the Blue Jays have been really good at Team Mobile Park. Also, the team that has hit more home runs is won every game. Yeah. And the other thing, too, is like, we talked about this leading up to the series. Blue Jays were the worst matchup for the Mariners in the American League bracket for this particular reason, because the mayor's pitching does not line up well with this Jay's offense. It doesn't.

It doesn't. Like the Jays expose everything that the Mariners do wrong as a pitching staff. And over these two games, we've seen that get exploited. So, yeah, I mean, did we expect it to be easy? Absolutely not. It's the Mariners, right? They didn't make the Tigers series easy or easy. Why would they make this series easy?

Didn't have to be a subway, though. No, no, no, it didn't. It didn't. But, you know, we're here now. And the only thing to do now is move forward. We'll talk about that a little later on. But I just want to talk more about, you know, some of the sloppy plays, some of the mistakes, some of the missed opportunities, why things got as ugly as it did tonight. Also talk a little bit about Luis Castillo in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the lockdown era's podcast is once again brought to you by, Fanduel. The NFL season is here and Fanduel is making sure you're ready for kickoff with a can't miss offer. Right now, new customers can bet just $5 and if you bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Fanduel makes every game more exciting whether you're watching your team or just keeping an eye on your fantasy lineup. It's quick, easy, and the best way to add a little more energy to Sundays. So are you ready to play? Download the Fandual app now by visiting Fanduil.com to get started.

That's Fanduil.com to place your first $5 bet. And you're listening to the Lockdown Marrars podcast for instant reactions following every Mariners playoff game. Be sure to tune in to the Marriss Postcast with Anderson Hurst and Christopher Crawford available on both the Lockdown Marys YouTube and podcast feeds. So some sloppy play from the Marriss tonight, some missed opportunities. I wouldn't say that that's the only reason that they lost this game. I really think that this is kind of a matter of just like tipping your cap to the Blue Jays.

The Blue Jays just straight up out executed you tonight. But you definitely, you know, help them out in some ways as well. You know, Leo Rivas getting picked off with Cal Raleigh up to bat. Josh Naler trying to leg it out to third and getting thrown out to end the inning. Yeah, in a situation where like him getting to third does not matter at all. you just need to continue to string hits together. So, yeah, that killed any sort of momentum that the mirrors were potentially building there

because that made it 5 to 2 on Gino's R.I. Yeah, exactly. But then, you know, Vladdy hits the home run pretty much immediately after. And there you go. I pretty much ended it. So, yeah, so there's that. And then there's also the third inning again, just going back to that. you know, same script pretty much plays out.

Eight-hole hitter for the Blue Jays leads things off of the double. This time it's Isaiah Connor Folefa. Last night, it was Ernie Clement. And then Andre Semenos, one of the worst hitters in baseball this year, hits another two-run, home run. This time, given the Blue Jays, a one-run lead. So I want to talk about Luis Castillo. What did you think about Castillo's night and then the decision to take them out?

Yeah, started off pretty well. I mean, Springer rocketed a ball. I don't know what the Exavilo was on it, but it looked like a double off the bat. I think it was 104.5. Yeah. Thankfully, you know, Randy was well positioned. But yeah, for the most part, I thought he was okay. And then in the third inning, everything is just in the middle of the plate.

And I don't mean like middle, middle, but like pitch at the knees, it's still in the middle of the plate. Pitch at the shoulders, it's still in the middle of the plate. Nothing on the corners, nothing in those, you know, up. down left-right quadrants, everything in the middle quadrants of the play. And the Blue Jays aren't going to miss those pitches. We know Luis doesn't have swing and miss stuff anymore. And even if he did, the Blue Jays don't swing and miss that much. So it was just bad control, bad command in that third.

And it is yet again three starters in a row now that have failed to give the Mariners more than nine outs. And you know, you do that three times in a row. I don't really care how good your bullpen is. you're going to get exposed because even if these guys throw well like they didn't game two that's still more information the hitters in the box get from you know seeing these guys over and over and over again so now we know that you know just look at the tiger series the more they saw bazaardo the more they saw spire the better they looked against them minus game five uh so you know it it is a continuation of a problem uh that being said i don't really know what dan's supposed to do

with Castillo. There's only one out. The bases are loaded. And he's struggled. You know, and he's throwing a ton of pitches in this inning and everything's kind of in the middle of the plate. So you leave him in there to phase Varsho and Varshow hits a home run like the game's over in the second. Whereas you take him out and, you know, Spire gives up a run, but manages to keep it at that. You're still in the game, even though it felt like he kind of worked. So I don't really know what Dan's supposed to do. It's a tough spot when back-to-back starters give you nine outs and what Kirby give you, seven, eight.

So, like, you're just kind of in a no-win situation there. Yeah, I thought maybe it might have been a good time. Go to Spire, get the last out or two, and then try and start Brian Wu to kind of, you know, eat some innings here and still give you a decent chance to stay in this ball game. But, yeah, I don't think Dan had very many good options. you know, he went with Brash while the game was still technically winnable and, you know, Brash fine minus the one pitch that unfortunately led to another run. So it's just kind of one of those things, Dan, I have no problem criticizing Dan Wilson.

You guys know this. But tonight, I just, I don't really know what he's supposed to do. I think the bigger question is, you know, Vargas in a four run game, but you'd already use Spire. you'd already used, you know, you'd already used brash and obviously Bizarro's pitched a ton. And that's not a very likely winnable game. And they still used Bizarro and he gave up a run. Very rare for Bizarro to do that. But, you know, so I just, I don't know what Dan's supposed to do in that situation.

I don't care if it's the playoffs. I don't care, you know, it's the regular season. But any time, I don't care how many days off you have in between. Anytime your bullpen has to cover, you know, six plus innings, three nights in a row, this is kind of the result you can expect. And the Mariners don't have a bullpen that's deep enough to do that under the best of circumstances against the Rockies, let alone, you know, a wagon like the Blue Jays. So I don't have a problem with him taking Luis out when he did.

Again, there's, it's a no-win situation there. You know, going to Brash was fine in the, under the circumstances. You know, again, I guess you could say going to Vargas, but you've already used Brash. you've already used Spire. So it's, do you want to use Bizarro for two innings and possibly not have him tomorrow? Do you want to use Munoz for two innings when you're down by four? Like, I don't know. And who's the next best guy after those four?

It's Vargas, unfortunately. And so, and I don't think Vargas was terrible tonight, but like, it is what it is. So I don't really have a big problem with anything Dan did per se. I think he was just in a tough spot for the third night in a row. And he's just kind of trying to manage. this thing as best he can and I just I don't think they gave them very many good options. It's just this Blue Jays team is built so well to exploit your specific weaknesses and we're just seeing that play out. Like it's just as simple as that.

Can you circumvent that? Absolutely. You did it in games one and games too. But sometimes, yeah, they are going to get you. And tonight we've seen the absolute extreme of that, you know, the last two games. So, yeah, I mean, I don't I don't really blame Dan for for what he did like I think going to spire in that situation makes all the sense of the world I you know had he not done that

and Castillo gives up a couple runs I think we'd be you know calling for Dan's head to you know on the show right like so you know it just it it is what it is right like sometimes you make these decisions you make very difficult decisions you make very aggressive decisions and they don't pay off but that's kind of what the play are and I felt like the job. Yeah, and I kind of feel and I feel like Dan at the end of the day, handle that

about as well as he could have. It's just his players didn't execute. Right. You have half of your bullpen is guys you don't trust. And that's fine, so long as your starters can give you five or six every single night. When they give

you three or less three nights in a row, you have to use some of those guys you don't trust. You just have to. And, you know, even when you don't use those guys that you don't trust, you know, you're still using the guys you do trust and they're pitching every single game. And even if they are somewhat well rested because of all the off days built in, these guys are still seeing them every single game. They're easier to pick up. You see the same pitcher, throw five days in a row, you're going to pick up some stuff that you wouldn't notice in game one. So, you know, ultimately, I think, you know, not to go back to this, but like they didn't do enough in the bullpen at the deadline. and, you know, we talked about it then. We've talked about it the entire time throughout. And you didn't give Dan kind of a foolproof bullpen. And Dan A. And the one guy that you did go out and get is kind of unusable right now.

I mean, like Luke Jackson, Emerson, Hancock, and Caleb Ferguson, they're the white flag guys. Which means you have Vargas, who's kind of the in-between guy. And then you have your four studs who burning them in a fort, with a four-run deficit, like you can do it sometimes, but you can't do it in back-to-back nights, especially when, you know, you have a guy going tomorrow, Bryce Miller, who knows how long Bryce. He gave you, he looked good in the playoffs so far. Don't get me wrong, but like it's just one of those things like Bryce is still battling

through his own issues that he's battled through all year, you know, and you have Brian Wu who's never pitched out of the bullpen before. And you're kind of trying to figure out how to bring him into this equation. So there just aren't a lot of good options for Dan Wilson to go to outside of those four guys. And he used those four guys tonight, I would say appropriately. Yeah. And I have no interest in burning Wu in a game like this, even when it was five to two, frankly. Because I'm going to need Wu at some point in the series.

And this was not the do-or-die game. Like, it would have been great to have it. But this is not the game to do that end. I might need Wu tomorrow. might need Wu to start game six if I'm down three to like yeah so uh yeah I don't I don't really put any of the blame of this one on on Dan frankly I think this is just on the guys for just getting out executed by the Blue Jays right and you know maybe if we were fast forward at a year from now and it's like well you're Sanja and Kate Anderson and so you don't need

to go out and get those guys at the bullpen to build an eight man bullpen But you weren't there. You were at a spot where you had a four-man bullpen and you chose not to add to it. And now you're kind of seeing why that's a problem. And also, obviously, Wu getting hurt is a big part of this because I'm sure part of the plan was, we'll put Bryce Miller in the bullpen and he'll probably stuff will play up. And you can see why they thought that based on how Bryce has looked in the playoffs this year. So, but you know, things happen.

The Wu injury certainly has, you know, made an impact on how the Mariners pitching is gone. but also the Mariners pitching just hasn't executed. And the Blue Jays are making them pay for just about every mistake they make. So, you know, we can search for excuses. We could search for even explanations. But at the end of the day, it's very, very simple. It's the 26 guys in that clubhouse right now, the guys who put on the uniform and go out on the field every day.

They've gotten their butts kicked the last two nights. There is no further explanation needed. They played terribly. The Blue Jays have played well. They've gotten blown out as a result. Yeah. Yeah, and it's one thing to just get straight up beat. It's another to also help that team out.

Like, I don't think that the Maris have lost these two games just because they've like shot themselves in the foot repeatedly. No. They certainly have, they certainly haven't helped things. I just think they're straight up getting smoked by a very, very good Blue Jays team. Right. And this was bound to happen. It, to me, it doesn't really say anything about the future of the series because, again, we've seen the bearers work around this in games one and two it's just it's a best on best I mean

we are at the point in the year where and and sometimes a lot of the times actually it doesn't really work out like this but this year specifically the two best teams of the american league are playing one another yep and the ALCS and like so the blue jays are just going to get theirs it's just going to happen yep So, you know, it's just you got to brush it off and you got to move on and you got to get back after it in game five. And we'll talk more about that in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Locktime Marriss podcast is brought to you by Price Picks. This episode of Locktime Mariners is brought to you by Price Picks.

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after your first $5 play. Price picks. It's good to be right. And you're listening to the Locktime Airs podcast. So game five between the mirrors of the Blue Days tomorrow. M's trying to salvage one game at T-Mobile Park. They won't be able to clench their first ever trip to the World Series. If they're going to do that at T-Mobile Park,

that's going to have to happen in Toronto now that they've lost these first two games at home. But still a great opportunity. right in front of the Mariners here because they won those first two games in Toronto. There's still only two wins away from making it to the World Series. And again, you know, the Blue Jays are going to get theirs. You're going to get yours because you're the two best teams remaining in the American League. You're just two very good teams that do it in very different ways. And that's why maybe we've seen the extremes that we've seen so far in this series.

but there's no time to dwell on what's happened these last two games. You know, that's for like people like us to do. But for the players, you can't dwell on this. What you absolutely can't afford to do here is start to press. You were in a very similar position to this, you know,

last series where, where, yeah, game four, you had a great opportunity, a very convenient way to, to win that series and make a quick, trip up to Toronto and you got smoked and you had to go back to Seattle and you had to face scubel

and you had to play 15 innings. You didn't know that at the time but you know you had to overcome all of those obstacles in order to even get to this point to even have the chance to you know be two games away two wins away from going to the world series and he did it because now after that game four what did we hear from the players hey like we're just on the game. 5. Whatever happened, happen, you know, that's done now. Nothing we can do about it. We just have to focus on game 5 and getting the job done.

And that's the same position that you're in now where like you miss out on a great, very easy opportunity to put the series to bed. You got smoked. You got punched in the mouth. And now it feels like the odds are against you because now you're going to have to go back to Toronto and the Blue Jays rotation has been reset and they have all the momentum and they just scored 21 runs on 29 hits against you over the last few games, all of that. But you beat these guys twice.

You can absolutely beat them again. Just, you know, to use a very, you know, cheesy cliche here, you literally just have to take it one game at a time right now. I'm getting in my Russell Wilson bag right now, but like, yeah. like but seriously like that's that's that's that's that's how you have to approach this thing now is like the only game that matters is the next one yeah i mean there's really not a i mean there's just really not a an option but to do that like um so you know to have that attitude tomorrow's game is or yeah tomorrow and as we're recording this at least tomorrow's game is pivotal you know and and it can't have be understated. I just looked it up since 1985. There have been 28, seven game series that have been tied after four games. The winner of Game 5 has won 18 of those 28 series.

So it's about a two out of three swing there. And the reasons why are obvious, right? You only need one win in the next two days, not two. You kind of have the other team has to throw everything they've got as Tye is losing along. the other team has to throw everything they've got in game six and do they have enough left over for game seven so like well it's not impossible to win back to back games to you know go to the world series it is historically unlikely is this one of those teams that could buck the trend and lose game five and still win this series sure of course they can um is it something would do it it would probably be them sure is it something you want to deal with no absolutely not so Tomorrow's game is absolutely pivotal. And, you know, it's just funny because, like, even if the Mariners win tomorrow's,

I'm like, okay, well, I mean, that's great. But, like, still 33% chance I'd lose this series. And if the Mariners lose tomorrow, I'm like, well, it's over. They only have a 33% chance to win the series. So, you know, it's just life of a Mariners fan sometimes. Hopefully these guys bounce back quicker than we do. But the last two days have been rough. There's no doubt about it.

And now I assume you're going up against Gosman. I don't think Schneider's made an official announcement yet. But I assume you're going up against Gossman and you're countering them with Bryce. So it is a game one rematch. And we'll see what version of Bryce Miller. Do we get playoff Bryce Miller, who's been very, very good outside of the first inning in Toronto? Or do we get regular season, Bryce Miller, who was terrible. And you're already going back to Toronto down three to two if you get that version.

So, yeah, a lot riding on tomorrow's game. It's critically important. It's huge. It's huge. And I just hope that the good Mariners show up and at the very least get a competitive baseball game out of this thing. Like you can't get blown out all three times, you know, at home, you know, needing just two wins to go to the World Series. Like it, again, like, it would just be a very sour way to end this season.

If you were to, you know, lose this series after going up 2-0 and getting swept at home on the way to doing it, it would just be a tough pill to swallow, especially when the fans have, you know, giving you everything they've had over the last, you know, month or so, and they want it more than, you know, any fan base out there. And it just, it would stink to not be able to provide it for them. But, you know, sometimes that's baseball. And that's just the light way in the life of most fan bases, but, you know, especially so Mariners fans. So they'll bounce back. I have no doubt about that, the Mariners fans, that is. I don't know if the team can bounce back. But I don't like betting against them because it seems like every time I do,

they turn it around. Then again, I never said they should sell at the deadline. So I have that going for me. Maybe I should say that again. I mean, I'm just going to tell you right now, Ty, and I said this after game one of the ALDS, there's no path forward for the Mariners to win this series.

All right. All right. And they should sell. It's what's best for the future of the organization. By the way, we didn't talk about it. The lineup change I was made tonight. Yeah. Kind of a weird night for Rivas because he did draw a walk and then he got picked off.

But he also had a couple of balls that probably are hits against most other teams. But the Blue Jays are just really good defensive outfit in the outfield. So kind of a weird night for Rivas. He had one of the biggest boo-boos, but he also had some of the best at bat. So we'll see if he's in there tomorrow. No Robles tonight. Canzone did get a hit. But, like, God, he looks so terrible.

So again, we'll see if Robles get. in the game tomorrow. I still think he probably has a little bit of a hip problem when he crashed to the wall the other day. So we'll see if he's in there against Gossman, but I think Rivas has probably earned another start again, recognizing that he made probably the second biggest error of this game. But, you know, Josh Naler went three for three and he made the biggest error of the game. So we're going to forgive him.

So I might as well forgive Rivas too. roughly the same quality of player. So yeah. I think this is, I think this is Naylor's fifth three-hit game in the last like eight. Incredible. You have to re-sign him.

I mean, I don't think you have much of a choice. And I mean, I don't, I know that they're not going to do it, but I know that it creates a lot of problems, but I don't know if you can go down with Randy Rose Arena in the lead-off spot. for much longer, but I just, again, we talked about this. I really don't know.

There's a better option, unfortunately. But we'll see if Dan makes any more changes, but I, I pretty, I doubt it. I think also making a bunch of changes kind of signifies your panicking. Maybe you should panic. Might be time to, this is the perfect time to panic. To quote Woody from Toy Story, this is the perfect time to panic. Yeah. Yeah.

But, I don't think. Maybe after tomorrow is the perfect time to panic. to panic, but like, yeah. Things aren't great right now, guys. There's no way for us to spend this. And like the best spin I can give you is that like, well, it's the best of three now. And if you win tomorrow, historically speaking, you have a 67% chance to win the series, but that that's the best I can give you.

Well, yeah, the good vibes that you built in the first two games, they're pretty much gone because like, yeah, the, the Blue Jays return served. They essentially did the same exact thing to you that you did to them. Yeah, they could do something even worse to you tomorrow if they went, you know, but, but yeah, the, the spin is, is pretty simple here, right? Like, those two games that you won in Toronto are still banked. You're still only two wins away from the World Series. And now you're in it, and, and you're going to play two of those games at a ballpark that you've been very good at. Very good.

Well, we'll park up until the last two days. Well, this whole postseason, you haven't been particularly good there, offensive. speaking. So maybe it's a good thing that they're going to be leaving Team Mobile Park here soon. The only wins you have at Team Mobile Park this postseason have both come against Terrick Scoobel.

That is the most Mariner stat in the history of Mariners stats. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Let's spend a simple here and look, you win tomorrow like you feel pretty good about it because then you get one clear

shot at it in game six and then, you know, if it has to go to a game seven, which it probably will because this is the mirrors we're talking about. Even if they lose tomorrow, it's probably going to go to a game seven because this is the merrists we're talking about. They would absolutely put us to the most stressful possible position.

And honestly, that would be, you know, losing tomorrow and then winning game six somehow, like late in game six, by the way. Yeah. And then go into extras in game seven. I just, I'm not sure what's more Mariner winning in extra in game seven on like a wild pitch or something weird like that or like a pitch clock timer violation on bladdy with the bases loaded and a two strike count and that's how you advance or something

weird like that would that be more mariner or would it be more mariner for them to just get smoked the next two games and blow two nothing lead being outscored like 48 to four in those four games not this mariners team yeah but most mariner teams Most Mariners teams, but not this man. Well, most Mariners teams wouldn't get to this point. That's true. So we'll see. Yeah.

Again, I ride with them to the end, but there's no sugarcoat. And it's been, it's been a rough 48 hours. Yeah. I don't know. Something tells me that it's, you know, it's going to go the same way that the Detroit series went and how the season has gone where. It looks so over. And then, oh my God, we're so back.

But eventually that has to run out, right? Or does it? You would think. Or does it? That's going to do a fresh show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Marriss podcast for Colby Patnaud. I'm Teddy Gonzalez. Be sure you give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Marrars.

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