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For the third time this season, the mayors have overcome Terrick Scoobel.
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Marys beat the Tigers three to two in dramatic,
emotional fashion tonight to knot things up at one.
game of peace here in the ALDS. Playoff Polo, Jorge Polanco with two home runs off of
Terek Scoobel, Julio Rodriguez with the game winning RBI double. We'll talk all about that,
as well as Luis Castillo in the bullpen. Definitely want to talk about Gabe Spire, who was just so,
so massive tonight. There's just so much to talk about from this one. So, you know, we'll try to get
to everything. I don't know if we will get to everything, but we will certainly try to get to
everything. But man, you know, things just looked so bleak after the loss last night.
With the Tigers stealing game one, having school will go in in game two. And like, yeah,
you know, the Mariners overcame him twice this season, but you're thinking like there's no way
that they're going to be able to do it a third time, right? And, you know, they definitely didn't,
you know, smoke him or anything, you know, like that. But they were able to outlast him. And
they were able to get a couple of huge solo home runs off the bat of 4 A Polanco.
And that's how you have to beat pitchers like this in the postseason.
You have to be able to match them on the pitching side of things and just be able to scrape together a couple of runs.
That's exactly what the Mariners did tonight.
First, playoff win for the Mariners at Team Mobile Park since 2001.
A very mariner way to get it.
Not much offense, really at all.
Now, granted, at least this time you were facing scuba.
So, I mean, there's a explanation for the lack of offense.
But, you know, just enough after the way Dan managed last night, which I didn't get a chance to react to, he was terrible, but far from the biggest problem of last night's game.
I thought he did a pretty decent job tonight.
There are a couple things you're like, hmm, probably don't really like that.
But it was at least somewhat like understandable.
And it looks like he learned his lesson from last night, too, because in the exact same situation, this time he's.
goes to Gabe Spire. And it, look at that. It worked out great. So, yeah, it was a, it was a very much
a playoff baseball game. The pitching was really good on both sides. There was a big mistake that,
you know, got taken advantage of by the underdog. And there was, you know, a lot of offense from the
winning team came off the home run, which is also very playoff. And the atmosphere was electric. And
so it just really felt like a good playoff game. Something that, you know,
you know, the Yankees and Blue Jay series is not given anybody.
I mean, Blue Jay fans are complaining, but like those don't look like playoff games.
So the Mariners are playing playoff games.
And, you know, they walk away from the first two games, having lost home field advantage,
but also I think if you told people, you know, on what, on Friday, they're like, hey, the Mariners are,
they're going to split these first two games.
I think people would have taken it because I would have said, like, yeah, well, I mean, they'll probably win the
first one and then they'll lose to scoble and then they'll regroup and at the end of the day it doesn't
matter what order you do it in you just have to do that um although you know it does back in my mind
I'm like man if you could have just scraped out a run yesterday yeah yeah extra run yesterday yeah
yeah there's a lot of shoulda cut a wooda here but like being up to nothing like the series is
over and I think that's something that people need to understand like tonight the mariner's
season was very much on the line.
Yeah.
Again, is it impossible for them to win three in a row?
Absolutely not.
Any team in baseball can win three in a row against anybody.
But with the major question marks surrounding who's going to pitch it on game four
and having to beat Scoobel in game five, just to, you know, all of that to win your three
in a row, it was going to be extremely difficult for the mirrors.
And it's still a difficult road because the questions about who's starting game four.
And, you know, if you have to face Scoobel in game five,
can you beat them for a fourth time?
And now you're going to their park, all that.
And we'll talk about all that when we get there.
But tonight, we don't have to because we can focus on tonight's game.
We can focus on game three.
And everything after that doesn't really matter.
You just have to focus on what you can control.
So it's not as daunting to go and win three in a row.
Now you have to win two out of three.
And, you know, in theory, you'll have the pitching advantage tomorrow.
We'll see what are on Tuesday.
We'll see what Logan Gilbert you get.
But yeah, it was a critical one.
You had to have this one.
Again, season not technically over, and I'm sure people would have coped their way into saying the Mariners are going to win three in a row.
Just the road was so difficult if you didn't find a way to win tonight.
And the Mariners did.
And give them credit, they beat the best pitcher, at least in the playoffs right now.
They beat them for the third time this year.
You know, they wasn't always pretty, you know, but they did get them out after seven.
and they did get to a tiger's bullpen that has had to throw quite a few innings over the last five or six days,
and they were able to scrape together a run with their two biggest stars coming through and doing what they needed to do.
They were the only offense they had last night.
Tonight they come through and combined to score the winning run, and that's exactly what you need.
And, you know, it gets overlooked.
Polos is the star tonight, no question about it.
But there were a lot of really good performances from, you know, big star-level players that the Mariners needed and they got tonight.
And that's how you beat, you know, the best pitcher in baseball, arguably.
Yeah.
You know, I texted you before the game that, like, if you could win this game,
you would basically reverse what, you know, the swing in the direction for the Tigers
last night, right?
Now, they still accomplished what I think they ultimately set out to accomplish,
which was to steal home field advantage from you.
Now you're in a, now you're in a best of three.
And two of those games are going to be in Detroit.
but, you know, after last night and them stealing game one, rolling out the bullpen day against George Kirby
and having scoble going game two, they had to feel pretty good about going two oh here and heading
to Detroit just needing one more win and the fact that you got to their guy and your pitching was
just good enough to match him and even best him in terms of at least, you know, the scoreboard, you know,
what ultimately matters, right?
That to me is the Mariners taking the momentum right back from Detroit in this one.
Now, we'll see how that translates to game three, especially with the day off and all that.
But winning this game is so huge.
And I think it says a lot about the character of this club.
I talked about it with Ben last night.
Like, we were going to find out a lot about the Mariners with their backs against the wall on this one.
Because again, like you said, their season was on the last night.
the line tonight. So winning this game, being able to punch back, going blow for blow with
Scoobel, getting those two big home runs from Jorge Polanco, also just working at bats against
scoble, right? First two innings, his pitch count was in great shape. I think he was at 25 pitches
while Luis was at 51. By the fourth inning, they were pretty much equal. I think Luis was at 69,
nice, and school was at 62.
It was just
Even though again
They didn't score that many runs
They only scored three runs tonight
Which is just one more than they scored last night
It was just such a better
More quality offensive performance
Than the one that they had last night
Against a frankly just a far better opponent
Yeah
So that was really nice to see that
You know they didn't get too down on themselves
They recognized the moment
They met the moment
Seas the moment if you will
and we'll see what happens on the you know on the road now so but just a huge huge huge
huge win for the mirrors and yeah it just it cannot be overstated just how much they needed
this one to essentially save their season so we will talk about Julio's big hit
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Our player of the game tonight,
Jorge Polanco, goes three
for four with the two solo home runs
off of Tarek Scouble. Also had
an infield single later on.
He also had a really nice night defensively,
which is an unexpected thing to say about Jorge Polanco.
He made a nice play on a pretty crazy hop,
and then also had a nice play up the middle
to get the force out there at second.
Just a fantastic game from Horace Polanco on both ends tonight.
Julio Rodriguez, though, ends up being the hero in this one.
Jorge is the player of the game.
Julio's the hero.
they blow the two nothing lead cool is out of the game though
Kyle Finnegan comes in you saw him last night
now you have a little bit more information on him
and you got the top of the order coming up
Cal smokes a double down the line
his fourth hit in this series
and then Julio
44 steps in that batters box
and does what
we've all been waiting for
You know, last night, I was talking about this with Ben, like, last night was, I think, the game we, we've all been waiting for from Julio, right?
But this was the moment.
And I feel like I might get emotional talking about this because, I mean, for years now, we've talked about how much has been placed upon this young man's shoulders.
And, you know, how a certain part of this fan base and I've been even guilty of this have heavily criticized him for not coming through it at, at,
times in moments like these and for him to do that and essentially seal the mariner's
first home playoff win in 24 years it's incredible man like that that moment as it happened
that had me choked up like they showed the fan in the stands crying and i'm like yeah i get it
i get it like i just could not be happier for julio yeah
I mean, like, that's what you paid the guy for, and that's kind of the, we've talked about this, right?
Like, Cal is the most valuable player on this team.
He's the most valuable player in the league.
Julio's the most important because what Julio can do is it transcends anything that Cal can do,
even in, you know, arguably the greatest season a catcher's ever had.
Like, Julio's just different that way.
And when he's coming up and he's getting these big hits, it, you know,
It just energizes everybody else.
It makes everybody else's life easier because Julio is the one with the highest ceiling.
He is the one who is the superstar.
And, you know, Cal's been, you know, Batman this year.
And Julio's kind of gotten to play Robin a little bit.
And he's been very good in that role, especially in the second half.
And we saw glimpses of this.
You know, Jerry DePoto himself gave a lot of credit to Julio for kicking off this run with his game in Atlanta where he just, you know, I'm going to put it on myself.
And I'm going to carry us to victory.
And he tried his best to do it last night.
And he just, you know, came up a little bit short.
And tonight he gets the big hit on a double, oddly somewhat similar to the double that everybody remembers where the guy who's the superstar is running, but the guy who's like the most important player on the team is hitting.
And he gets a double down the left field line.
A little bit lower stakes.
Sure.
Granted.
But, yeah, it was just a big moment.
And, you know, it's interesting.
We talk about like Julio, he chokes and blah, blah, blah, and all this.
And you look at his numbers in like high leverage situations.
Yeah.
They're really good.
Like,
yeah,
it's a narrative.
There's obviously moments that you can point to where you needed a hit.
You needed a big hit from Julio and he just didn't come through.
You could do that with David Ortiz,
who's like widely considered the clutchest hitter of all time.
I mean, look at,
look at Aaron judge in the playoffs.
Right.
Yeah.
Like it's just one of those things where it's like,
look,
I'm not saying that Julio hasn't had some really terrible at bats and big moments he has.
Like,
yeah.
We've seen him swing out of his shoes and chase sliders.
haven't really seen it much this year.
Like those really terrible at-bats with guys on base,
Julio hasn't had a ton of those this year.
So it isn't,
you know,
a maturation process.
We saw him get Brian and Brayu twice this year for these big clutch hits.
And obviously,
you know,
what he did in Atlanta and all that.
So like there has been a maturation of Julio at the plate this year.
And it's kind of flown under the radar because,
well,
your catcher's hitting 60 home runs,
you know,
everything flies under the radar.
So yeah,
yeah,
I think it was just, you know, right guy in the right moment, you know, and Julio has had, you know, so far, it's only two games, but Julio has been Julio and he's been tremendous. He was pretty good in his first playoff run, not great, but pretty good. And right now he's looking like, you know, the best player on the field, both these nights. And so it really is something, you know, important. I think that Julio becomes this star and he ascends, you know, to where he should be and getting these big hits and driving in these.
big runs. I think that's really important. You've seen the energy that he's playing with too
right now as well. So I think that's, I think that's necessary for the club. I think it's important
for the fan base. And I think, you know, there are times where Robin needs to save Batman, not
the Cow has been bad. Cal's been very good this series too. I mean, what he's done at the plate and what
he's done behind it, critical in the first two games. But, you know, Julio is, is the guy.
like Julio is is the guy who comes up with a big hit.
And he is just the guy who makes it easy to dream on the Mariners because he is the guy who can literally pick a team up and carry them to a World Series title.
Like what Randy Rosarana did in 2020, Julio can do that.
Now is he going to hit what 11, 12 home runs in the playoffs?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But like could he do something like that?
Could he do something like that?
Yes.
Yes.
he could he absolutely could and he's kind of starting to do it right now so i thought it was huge head
obviously and and um it's a big moment and and it really is awesome to see from a guy who
it's just really polarizing in this fan base for some reason like it just nobody wants to appreciate
him for who he is they want to be mad that he's not who they want him to be or they want to pretend
like he's flawless like we've talked about this before yeah but uh for julio to come up big like he has the last
two nights and obviously tonight with the game winning it.
I think it means a lot not only for the Mariners this year as they try to do something
they've never done before, but also in future years.
When you get back to the playoffs, hopefully again next year, you can look at Julio and be like,
that's the guy I'm going to count on.
I believe in Julio in these big spots.
And I think he's taking real strides there this year and it's kind of gone under the
radar because, you know, cow.
Yeah.
Well, and you think about how the first half of his year went where, you know,
it's just it's another regressive season and you know he has the really big series against guess who
the tigers goes into the all-star break pulls out of the all-star game so he can kind of just focus on
himself and work on some stuff and the second half he he was incredible he was a huge reason for
them turning things around and kickstarting that that win streak and you know now he's doing this in
the playoffs finally right and um again i just could not be happier for him because you know he's
heard it all you know he's heard it from idiots like me but again you know to use kind of an
overused argument but it's still a valid argument and a valid point he is so incredibly young
still even
but he is also now
a season major leager
we're now at the tail end of his
fourth full season in major league baseball
and it's starting to finally all come together
and now it's not just
he's a superstar talent
he's playing like a superstar
I think he's
firmly established himself as the best center fielder
in the game this season
and the bat is starting to back it up as well.
And you do this and moments like these,
yeah,
you're going to be considered one of the best players in the game
and not just off of your talent alone
because that's kind of how we've talked about,
Julio.
Now the production is starting to come.
Now the production in big moments
is starting to come.
And they're going to need more of it
over the course of this series
and hopefully further.
But just an absolute.
absolutely incredible start to the playoffs for Julio Rodriguez.
And what a hit in that moment.
To again,
potentially save the Mariners season.
Because here's the other thing, right?
It's one thing to,
you know,
lose the scoble game and be down 2.0.
But to blow that lead and eventually be down 2.0.
Yeah,
you're cooked.
So to be able,
and it was also huge to respond right away as well.
well, not for it to linger into the knife or even into extra innings.
To come right back with the top of the order due up against their bullpen.
Scoobles finally out of the game to jump right on Kyle Finn again was so, so massive.
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Luis Castillo, Gabe Spire, Edward Bizarro, Andres Munoz was awesome tonight as well.
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So again, the Mariners were able to match and outlast and in a way best Terrick Scoobel tonight on their side of things with the pitching.
Luis Castillo gets things started.
He wasn't Toronto, Luis Castillo.
He wasn't even Houston, Luis Castillo.
But he gave you four and two thirds, scoreless ball.
He walked more guys.
he struck out, walked four guys, gave up a hit, but he was able to get out of a jam.
He was able to get a couple of quick innings there and endings three and four after throwing
51 pitches to get through the first two innings.
And he set you up for the rest of the night.
You know, he gave you a chance to win.
That's all that matters.
Gabe Spire picks up for him.
Basis Carrie Carpenter.
Dan Wilson learns his lesson from last night.
goes to Spire with runners on first and third, two outs.
Spire gets Carpenter.
Very interesting moment there and a very interesting decision from AJ Hinch.
And it's a moment that we talked about a lot in the lead up to this series.
What was what was A.J. Hinch going to do once Spire came into the game to face, you know,
the Riley Greens and the Kerry Carpenter of the world.
And that moment with a prime scoring opportunity and the,
Tigers down one nothing.
Hinch sticks with Carpenter who has a 71 WRC plus against lefties.
Spire strikes him out.
Spire goes out for another inning.
Smokes everyone in his path.
Gave Spire has been massive in the series so far.
I mean, really, the bullpen outside of obviously, you know, what happened with Brash
tonight and, you know, Vargas in the 11th inning, which whatever, Dan just ran out of guys at that point.
we talked about this.
That, yeah, there was only having Bizarro face one hitter last night was the problem, not going to Vargas.
Like that was set up by a problem previously.
But yeah, once you go through your five leverage guys, it's like, I guess Vargas's number six.
Like, would you really felt better with Luke Jackson or Emerson Hancock?
Well, and like, I know people have said, you know, go to Bryce Miller in that situation.
I mean, one, like asking Bryce Miller to throw his, you know, for the first time out of the bullpen.
That's, that's a lot.
But also you might have to throw Bryce Miller in game four.
I think the bigger concern is game four and making sure you have them for that.
So so, yeah.
So, you know, that wasn't a slam duck.
But anyway, my point was, you know, outside of, you know, Vargas there, which again, like whatever.
And, you know, Brash tonight, like the bullpen's been great through these first two games.
I guess Brasato.
Brash was pretty darn good tonight.
Yeah, yeah.
Bizarro, clean inning.
Munoz.
incredible.
Going, you know, coming off of, you know, going to last night.
And the big question going into this outing for Monios was how was he going to respond after going to ending's last night for the first time all year long?
He was fantastic.
And you can tell right away.
And, you know, you usually can tell with Andres.
Within the first couple of pitches, you can tell what kind of night you're going to get out of Andres.
Yeah.
And he was awesome.
Now, he was obviously helped out by the fact that he had to face, you know, 7, 8, 9.
maybe it's a little bit of a different story
if he has to face you know carpenter and green
etc but still
Munoz was Munoz was awesome today
Spire though was just
incredible you know he was kind of our
X factor going into the series
him and Bizarro and so far he has shown up
in such a huge way
yeah
the Mariners Boulpen allowed one hard hit ball
tonight
wow and it was Gabe Spire
who allowed it
oh wasn't the Torkelson
No, a ball down the line.
Wow.
Nope, which again.
I thought
I thought he,
I thought Brash pitched pretty well tonight because that hit was jam shot.
It was kind of fluking again.
Never should have been in that situation.
He had three strikeouts.
Yeah, he worked too many three ball counts.
He had the walk as well.
So like, look, I'm not telling you that he was amazing tonight.
But I thought Brash was was pretty darn good tonight.
And, you know, if Nailer makes a play, he's made 99 times out of 100,
We're not even, we're talking about how great brash was and how sketchy brash was,
but how great he still was.
And sometimes it just, you know, it doesn't work like that.
And so he gets tagged with a run.
But yeah, I look at the, I look at what the pitching staff did today,
knowing you're facing scoble, knowing that your offense is going to struggle to score runs.
I thought they were appropriately cautious at times, especially Luis,
trying to be very fine with a lot of his pitches.
And that's why he walked four guys.
But being aggressive at the right times,
attacking the right spots in the order and being cautious to some other spots.
Like this is how you have to, you know, pitch in the postseason is you have to understand,
these are my matchups that favor me and I'm going to attack.
These are the ones I kind of have to work around.
And you just leave everything on the table.
Like everything has to be out there.
And you take your chances.
And, you know, sometimes things don't go your way.
Sometimes they do.
But I thought that Castillo especially tonight, very cautious to the top of the order, really
He was trying to, you know, be on the corners, not make any mistakes.
And then when he got into the middle, like five, six, seven, eight, nine was very aggressive.
And he attacked those guys.
And so I, you know, it didn't look great to start.
It's sketchy and a lot of pitches thrown.
But he was the rock.
He was the veteran.
And this is why you give him these playoff spots.
Yes.
And again, it's a stat line that's not going to blow anybody away.
But it was exactly what you needed.
It was everything you needed from him.
find a way to get through the lineup twice.
And then we get to the lefties.
We're going to Gabe.
And, you know, it worked out really well.
And again, like, would it have been great if Castillo would have shoved and gone seven
innings like Scoobel tonight?
Of course, it would have.
But that's not the job tonight.
That's not the job in this game.
The job is to, you know, be selectively aggressive, pitch around the problem areas that
are going to give you issues and then trust your bullpen to have your back.
And, you know, trust your manager to know when to go and get you.
and went to play to those matchups.
And so I thought Luis was everything he needed to be tonight.
It was a very veteran outing from him.
We'd probably be saying the very same thing about George Kirby last night
if Dan had gone and gotten Spire last night as well.
So again, hindsight, we don't need to talk about it.
But probably should have seen that coming at the moment,
but whatever.
We're not talking about that.
The bullpen tonight was, I thought it was really good.
And again, the one mistake was actually more of a just fielding mistake.
I don't think it was their mistake.
take very few pitches in the middle of the plate tonight, too.
It really felt like they were on the corners,
and they were making the Tigers hit their pitch.
And if they did, fine, whatever, kudos,
but they weren't making very many mistakes tonight.
Everything was intentional.
And, you know, not a lot of walks outside of Castillo.
But again, some of those were very much, like,
I'm going to be very careful about how I pitched a carpenter.
I'm going to be very careful about how I pitched to Riley Green.
And, yeah, and then just attack the righties in this lineup.
That's what you do best.
And we'll probably see Logan Gilt,
do something similar to that and we'll probably see
Bryce Miller do something similar to that on Thursday
you know is they're going to be
very cautious to those lefties
now it might be Thursday
because game three is in a little bit of jeopardy
there's an 85% chance of rain
on Tuesday right now oh good Logan
Gilbert with a rain delay awesome anyways
I think the hope there would be
that the game just gets moved
Wednesday and
yeah it's moved to Thursday but
right just don't start the game
and then stop it because we know that that has disastrous results.
But yeah, anyways, I thought the whole pitching staff was very good tonight.
They did what they had to do against Scoobo.
And again, like the Castillo final line doesn't look great.
He didn't really give up that many hard hit balls.
It's just the walks that did him in it.
And again, the walks were not intentional, but they were intentional.
Like they were like a product of a game plan that worked very well.
I thought the biggest moment was actually the third.
inning when he faced the top of the lineup again because you know after how much he labored in
the first two innings you're going on the second time that they're going to see him like i i texted
you after this i said this is the most lopsided zero zero baseball game after two ines i've ever seen
and i said and i said back to you like yeah they're losing the tug of war again like they did
last night where it was like okay you know no one scored yet but just the the momentum right now
feels very much on the tiger's side and it did again to start this game
game, but he strikes out Torres.
And then he gets a couple of quick outs, gets out of that inning.
Like, that's when things started to shift in the mayor's direction.
Once Luis kind of settled in and he got those two quick innings and then obviously the
polo home run happens.
That was the moment to me.
Then, you know, the inning in which Polo hits the home run, Scoobel's command was
clearly starting to fade a bit.
he went to a three two count
on Julio
Julio ended up what popping
popping out
he'll pop up I think
but it was like okay
that's interesting
he's missing his spots
it wasn't really like a control issue
again it was more of a command issue
where he was just like
he wasn't exactly hitting his spot
and then he goes down to O
to Polo and boom
hanging slider
and it's just when scubel
gives you an opportunity when a pitcher
like Scouble gives you an opportunity
like that you have to take advantage
and Hori Polanco did
and it was at that moment
that like yeah twice
but like specifically in that moment it was like
okay now the Mariner's
are winning the tug of war
as soon as those pitch counts
started to even out and school's command
started to fade just a little bit
and he gave you just a little bit of an opening
they took advantage
and that right there
like obviously the Julio double is like the moment in this game.
But that was where you went,
okay,
that's where the nervous energy that was clearly in the crowd started to dissipate.
So that's going to do it for our show.
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