Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Seattle Mariners Respond Well to Weekend Disaster as George Kirby DOMINATES the Angels

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

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The Mariners pitched well, they slugged, and they got back to 500 with a nice win over the Angels last night. Let's talk about it. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Tuesday, June 30th, 2026. My name is Tiding Gazzal.

I'm joined as always by my co-coes Colby Patnode. On today's show, Colby has a trade deadline hot take that will sure. really go over well after last night's game. And speaking of last night's game, I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but okay. Yeah, you know what you're about to do. Speaking of last night's game, though, it was a fun one. Marys went six to two over the Angels.

Didn't start out great. Mairs were down to nothing early on, but they wind up putting together maybe the most complete effort we've seen from them in a couple weeks, really. And overall, it was the response you would like to see from this club after what happened on the road trip and in Cleveland on Sunday. Yeah, it was very much the typical Mariners win, at least how they wanted to win a lot of their games this year. They hit some home runs.

They got one big non-home run with runners in scoring position. They pitched very, very well. Very nice to see them just, you know, wipe away yesterday. In this case, not having an off day, I think actually helped a little bit. They had to get right back up there and try and win a game without the day off to kind of sit on Sunday's loss. everybody else in the American League West, except for the Rangers, unfortunately, lost yesterday. So he did gain to game

a couple of the teams that were breathing down your neck a little bit. So that's good. But, yeah, at the end of the day, you know, they slugged. They didn't make the critical air on the bases or in the field. And they pitch very, very well,

particularly George Kirby, who I think the Mariners should give a lifetime extension to, whatever number he wants. And you will definitely not contradict that at all. later on in this episode. Yeah. I tell you, it's not a good episode

to be Brian Wu. T's, but yeah, it was nice to see because they really needed a game like this. Now, it doesn't matter

if they had dropped the next two. You know, today's game will be forgotten or yesterday's game will be forgotten. But, yeah, it's good to win

the first game of a series, although lately for the Mariners, that hasn't meant a single thing. So, yeah, when the first game of the series hasn't been an issue for the Mariners.

No, no, They put themselves in a great position to win the series, like each of the last six series, and they've only won, I think, one. So good job, guys. But hey, you know what? They also scored more than three runs. That is two games in a row.

Let's start counting those. Yeah. I can't wait for them to get seven no-hit innings, no-hit against seven-inning no-hit against Jose Soriano tonight. But, yeah, the offense actually looked good. And we saw some, you know, good signs from them in Cleveland. They just couldn't get the big hit. They got the big hit yesterday.

And they also got the big fly. So it really is a very good game for the Mariners. Very clean. And that's how you want. That's the formula to win games going forward. Just have your starter go eight innings every single time. Exactly. That's the formula.

Cole Young goes three for three in this one. First multi-homer game of his career. And I tweeted this last night. I also said this in my post-game react. like for a dude that doesn't hit a ton of homers he has some crazy pop and we saw that and that's yeah take stolen from you huh you can only have that tape right i'm the only one yep okay yeah uh cole's i don't know if he's ever going to hit 20 home runs in the season but my guess is is that if you added up the uh the distance of his i don't know 12 to 15 homers that he's that he's

going to hit it would probably be roughly the same distance as like the average 25 home run hitters 25 home runs would be because he hits like 430 foot bombs like I don't know how many Cole Young homers are below 350 so yeah he he doesn't hit cheap ones really ever but yeah yeah I don't know who went to dead center and then he went off of the windows like come on yeah crazy exactly I don't know which one was more impressive, but maybe the one against the lefty. It's crazy. Cole Young learned how to be a switch hitter in the middle of the game, so you could hit that home run against the left-handed pitcher, since, as we know, lefties cannot hit lefties. That's right, especially not Domken's own. No, I mean, he only did it for like 100 played appearances last year

and like the 30 or so played appearances he was given this year. Yeah. I mean, just surely, surely his home run against the lefty lost. night was like his hundredth or so played appearance against a lefty this year, right? Surely. I mean, why wouldn't it be? Yeah. Jesus.

Yeah. Right there. Case and point for why we've been pounding the table for Dom Kanzone to get more opportunities against lefties. Now, it's funny, though, because he has two home runs against lefties in the last week or so. You know, the one against Peyton Tolly, against the Red Sox, you know, like a week or so ago,

and then the one last night. when that actually wasn't a big part of what he did against lefties last year. Like he was hitting for average. He was getting on base. He just wasn't really slugging against lefties last year. But he still, that was still more than good enough for him to get more opportunities than he was getting against lefties so far to start this season.

Look, I get picking and choosing your spots with Canzone against lefties, especially to start the year. Totally fine. Because, you know, you and I weren't even really sold on Canzone heading into the season, Colby. So I get that, but, yeah, giving him basically like zero that appearances against lefties. Like, what are we doing? So, I mean, Ty.

How else are you going to get 2026 Rob Refsnetter into the lineup 130 times? Yeah. So it's kind of like the refsner thing yesterday where they finally put him on the IL. Like that should have happened a long time ago, as we've talked about. But at least they've finally done it. And so with Canzone, like this should have happened a long time ago, but at least they're finally doing it. All right. Well, coming up, let's talk about George Kirby. Eight innings of two-run ball from George.

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and access to a group chat with me and other listeners of this show. tap the link in the description or go to lockdown mariners. com to learn more. So it was a really good night for George Kirby, but one that did not get off to a particularly good start. Kirby lost Zach Netto on an O2 pitch that Netto doubled into the left center field gap and later scored on a single by Denzer Guzman. And then Netto his next time up homered to make it two nothing angels.

So Kirby found himself in an early hole here against the Angels. But from that point forward, really locked in. He goes eight innings in this one, gives up just those two runs on seven hits, seven strikeouts, one walk on 100 pitches, exactly 17 whiffs for Kirby,

eight hard hit balls for the Angels against Kirby. What did you make of his night, Colby? I mean, looks like a guy, I'd probably give like a 12 year extension to, but yeah, it's, it's pretty good.

You know, again, like you said, I ran into some trouble with Netto early. I was able to make an adjustment there. It got a couple big double play balls to kind of early in particular to kind of keep the scoring down, give the Mariners' offense a chance to get back in this game. And then, you know, once he was handed that 6 to 2 lead, he was very, very good. This is a really aggressive Angels lineup. They swing often.

And when you look at the numbers here, he threw 100 pitches. 70 of them were strikes, but only 44% of them were. in the strike zone. So a lot of, you know, expanding of the zone, which, you know, could bode well for, you know, Brian Wu tonight, we'll see. But, yeah, the Angels very aggressive. They expanded the zone.

Lots of really good knuckle curves. I actually thought that was his best pitch today, or, well, yesterday. People are going to think we recorded this the night of. I keep saying today. But, yeah, the knuckle curve. It's daylight. You can see the sunlight coming.

through my window. The knuckle curve. That was his best pitch today, but he threw a ton of sweepers again and really went with the two seamer, the or sinker, instead of the four seam fastball today. That was kind of the big adjustment. But we've seen Kirby throw a ton of sweepers in his last couple of outings. It's definitely a trend that is obviously not matchup based unless it's the same game plan against the last four opponents. But he's throwing a ton of sweepers right now. And again, the four seamer, sinker, typically he's more four seam than he is sinker. but yesterday he flipped it and much more sinker than he was. He didn't get a lot of whiffs on either of the fastballs, but pretty good whiff rate on the sweeper, really good whiff rate on a couple of changeups that he threw and the knuckle curve. So, you know, it was solid overall from George. Really, again, very much helped out by the Angels being

uber aggressive and he got a couple double play balls to keep his pitch count down as well. So, yeah, it was kind of interesting. to see them having guys up to start the eighth inning when the pitch count was a really good spot. But, you know, he's able to pitch out of it. Got a big strike out of whatever the name of their bad first basement is. Shining well. Yeah.

Get a big strike out there on the knuckle curve to end his day. And, yeah, finally got some smiles out of George. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was. That was freaky. It was a natural. I didn't like it. It was a very good.

good outing from from kirby and you know kind of exactly what you need uh now with the uh the off day on wednesday you have the full compliment probably minus for air of of bullpen options tonight uh there's no reason not to be aggressive with your bullpen if if woo gets into trouble they should be you know very quick to go to bizardo inspire and munios but um yeah you know obviously you hope woo can have the same success tonight and if the uh if the if the angel are going to be as aggressive with him as they were with Kirby, then it's going to go one of two ways for Brian, either very good or very bad.

But George, very good. And again, really kind of recognized that the Angels were in swing mode, and he was able to expand the zone just enough to still get swing and miss, but stay off at the barrel for the most part. Joe Adele had a couple of rockets that one was caught. One was a base hit. But, yeah, for the most part, really good outing from George and exactly what the team needed.

Yeah, we typically see that hyper-aggressive approach from offenses against George Kirby, and typically it goes one of two ways. And, yeah, George was able to adapt after things got Rocky there over the first couple of innings and was able to really lock in there and get into his bag. And it was good to see. And, you know, over his last four outings, Kirby, 26-innings pitch, nine earn runs, 10 runs in total on 31 hits, three home runs. 27 strikeouts,

the six walks, 312 ERA, 322 FIP, the 401 XERA and a 367 X FIP over that time. Yeah, it's been solid. And you're listening to the Locktime

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description of this episode. All right, Colby. Floor is yours, my friend. You have a trade deadline hot take, but you would like to share. I do. It is time for the Seattle Mariners to trade Brian Wu.

I mean, what else could it be? No. So yeah, the timing of this makes it sound like I'm about to tell you why Taylor Swift is overrated and terrible. Same level of energy there. Now, to be fair, we recorded CTZ last night before last night's game, and he had the same take. Yes.

And that is that Taylor Swift's music is great and definitely no problems with it. And you should definitely. I think it's great that she's renting out three square blocks of New York City in the middle of summer. Look, I said this on CTZ yesterday. I'll say it today. I'll stand by it because, of course, I will. because unlike Ty, I'm not a coward. Been having some fun, but.

Right, of course. Yeah. I think regardless of the Mariners record and regardless of where they stand in the standings, obviously, I think to Seattle Mariners should strongly consider and also be open-minded to trading George Kirby this summer. Now, I don't care of there in first place. I don't care of there in last place. The Mariners should be open to trading George this summer.

It does not mean they trade him for whatever they can get. Two different things. But here's the bottom line. The Mariners are going to have to trade sometime in the next calendar year. They're going to have to trade two starting pitchers. Because right now they have six. Kate Anderson is knock, knock, knocking on Heaven's door, heaven being the major leagues, of course.

And the Mariners have already announced that he will pitch for them this year, probably out of the bullpen. he is going to make the opening day roster next year if he's healthy, almost certainly. You're not going to roll with a six-man rotation. We know the mayors don't want to do that right now. They're not going to do it next year. Want to see him try? You know, you have to trade two starting pitchers to open up one spot for Kate.

And don't forget, you have Ryan Sloan right on his heels. So at some point, you're probably going to need three opening spots in your rotation. but for now you need two. We think we feel pretty comfortable that Luis Castillo is going to be one of those guys, either this summer or this winter, assuming there's an offseason at all, or considering the offseason ever ends, I guess I should say. You're going to trade Luis at some point. It's going to happen.

It's more likely to happen in the winter when the money's easier to kind of maneuver and all that. But it could happen this summer. But regardless of that, you should consider trading George Kirby because Kirby is, in my opinion, the Mariner least likely to sign an extension out of the other four starters. And I know Logan's closer to free agency. I think Logan's going to end up signing an extension here. And I think he wants to be here, which I don't know for sure if George wants to be here. But I think because George is the least likely to sign an extension and because, again, you need to trade two starting pitchers to open up a spot for one of these guys.

Right, because you already have six. Now, could you trade Cole to, or Cole Emerson? No, you can't trade him. Could you trade Emerson Hancock? Maybe, like, sure, but he's cheap. And he's, you know, he's going to be club controlled for four more years. George has two and a half years left. So if you trade him now, you're trading three playoff runs for a guy for probably the best trade package that'll be mook.

George Kirby will net you more than. Terrick Scoobel just because of the club control. So two plus years of George Kirby, a player that you're probably going to trade this winter if you don't trade them now for, you know, I don't know. The tricky part here is what's the package. Now, for me, I want a major league helper now, like an impact major league or now, probably a bullpen arm is the most likely spot you're going to find that. And the other thing is like what team is actually going to be willing to

pay this package at the trade deadline specifically not in the off season. The nice thing about George is that he has, he has, you know, broad appeal because you get him for two more seasons. So even if this year it doesn't really work out for you, you still have two more cracks with George Kirby before he's a free agent. So there is some, again, unlike Scoobel where like if this doesn't work out, you gave up a ton and he's gone. Kirby, you get a couple cracks at this.

Obviously, Scoobles is a much better pitcher, but again, three tries versus one try. So there are some, you know, there are some pitfalls here. Like, does that team even exist? Is there a team out there that can meet your needs? Maybe not. Maybe not. And at that point, whatever, you fold up shop and you try again this winter.

And that's fine. Like, again, you don't have to trade George Kirby this summer, but you have to listen and you have to be willing to engage. Like you can't just, hey, are you guys willing to shop George Kirby? No, hang up the phone. No, you have to be willing to engage because, again, you need to trade in the next calendar year, and probably realistically in the next nine months, you need to trade two of your starting pitchers. So even if Luis Castillo is one of them, you still need to make room for Kate Anderson. And if you do it now, if you do it this summer, you might get a piece or two that can help you this year.

And a top prospect, maybe at a position that you don't really have a lot of answers for next year, like, for example, the outfield. Now again, does this team exist? I don't know. I've looked at a bunch of teams, and there's some that kind of work, some that kind of don't, and it would be tough.

Again, I'm not saying that you want to throw out your Diamondbacks idea? Yeah, I mean, like, again, it's not. This doesn't mean that this is going to happen or anything like that. It's just kind of the idea. Right. Just the rough idea. Again, I don't know the exact players,

but the Diamondbacks were an example of a team that they're fringe playoff contenders right now. They desperately need starting pitching and they're going to need it for the next couple of years. Kirby makes sense for the Diamondbacks. From the Mariners perspective, it's kind of similar to the Paul Seawall trade on steroids, right, where you're getting a couple of pieces that can help you this year for, you know, the one piece and it looks like a selling move, but blah, blah, blah. Anyways. So my idea was, I don't know if this is feasible at all, but just to give you guys a rough idea.

It's Ryan Waldershmit, the outfielder who's made his major league debut this year, right-hand hitting outfielder, solid prospect, top 50-ish guy. It's Juan Murillo, the reliever. So there's your upgrade in the bullpen there. And then it's Jordan Lawler, a former top five prospect, who's really struggled at the big league level, has found some success this year.

in like 12 games. And he's on the IL right now with a hamstring strain. Whatever. He's the lottery ticket, right? Maybe he works. Maybe he doesn't. But he's a former top five, six prospect who's 23 years old and can play in the infield and the outfield, like really good athlete.

So something like that. Would you trade George Kirby, roll with your five-man rotation, Luis Castillo? Anderson's now the six in case somebody gets hurt. He would be the replacement for that player. You worry about trading Castillo this winter. You had Walders Schmidt, who might be able to help you this year? I don't know, maybe not. But if he doesn't, he's probably your starting right fielder next year or left fielder,

as you probably have openings there. You get Jordan Lawler, who again could be a part of your infield mix, could be part of your outfield mix, could be your new super utility guy, could be nothing. Who knows? We don't know what Jordan Lawler is going to be. But you get that, that, you know, for Dan Wilson's sake, that eighth inning, like, this is the guy I used before Munoz and it lets me push down Spire, It lets me push down Bizarro.

You get Maria, who's a really good reliever, having a great year this year. The Mariners saw him when they played the Diamondbacks, filthy stuff. Can you get that for two and a half years of George Kirby? I think you might be able to get something pretty darn close to that. And I think Arizona is one of the teams that makes the most sense and actually has the pieces that would make the deal make sense for Seattle as well as Arizona. Yeah. Chicago, maybe.

just because they do pitching, but Yeah, I looked at them. It's like Pedro Ramirez or Jefferson Rojas. Like, is that like the headliner that you want? I mean, and then who helps you this year? Are you going to get Matt Shaw? Do you even want Matt Shaw? You want Sea Suzuki for half a season as kind of the major league helper this year?

That's a lot of money that you're taking on. Yeah. You know, the, the, there are defining the teams that have a needed starting pitcher, not the problem. The teams that have the need at starting pitcher and also the particular type of players that I would want if I'm going to trade George Kirby

this summer, that's a bit of the problem. So yeah, the Cubs, maybe there's a path there. Atlanta, I don't think they have the offensive player I'm looking for in this deal. Lots of pitching prospects, which I don't want to acquire another close to the big league's pitching prospect. That doesn't help me. all that much. Atlanta, though, maybe the White Sox that they really want to buy into where they're at this

year, the Cardinals that they want to buy into where they're at this year, although, again, most of the Cardinals' best prospects are catchers and starting pitchers. And, like, I don't think you're getting Jordan Walker right now. So probably not them. Again, there are a few teams that need the starting pitching help. And maybe this is also, like Milwaukee is a really good one. But unfortunately you look at Milwaukee you're not going to get them a day unfortunately that'd be great but you're not going to get them a day laura and um who's the shortstop right now i forgot his name pratt they signed extensions they're not going to trade those guys you know two months after they signed extensions uh jet williams has been dreadful in the minors this year so you're not

going to you're not going to count him and then it's i mean like could you get like trevor mcille and And, you know, one of their, Fisher, the third base prospect, I don't know. But I don't know if you want to do that. So it's kind of like the Brewers, again, make a lot of sense on the surface. But once you start to dig in, do they have the right pieces? I don't know. So there's a lot of teams like that. So again, I'm not saying that the Mariners aren't doing their job if they don't trade George Kirby this summer.

But what I am saying is the Mariners aren't doing their job if they don't listen and engage with other teams. about George Kirby. If teams are calling you about Kirby this summer, you should be willing to listen and you should be willing to have a dialogue. You don't have to trade him, but you should be willing to, is my point.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you, more so for Logan Gilbert than Kirby, but I'm also open to the Kirby idea because you're going to trade George Kirby at some point. You're going to trade two starting pitchers in the next year and probably three in the next two years. Yeah, but with Gilbert,

because you got the lockout coming up, because that is the last year of club control that he has. I think you should be very open-minded to the idea of trading him at the deadline, no matter what this year, if you know for a fact that you're not keeping him long term, if you're just so far apart on the money, or if you just kind of soured on him based off of how, you know, the majority of the last 50 or so starts have gone for him,

even though he's been pretty good as of late, you know. It'd be funny the Mariners trade him right as he starts going seven, every single time out. Right. Yeah. But like for whatever reason, if you, if the Marys feel like they're not going to be able to keep Logan Gilbert beyond 2027, I think you need to do it now rather than wait until this winter where you're going to have a very tiny window to trade him before the lockout.

And I don't know if anyone's going to make any significant trades before the lockout or make any sort of significant deals before the lockout. I don't know. We'll see. Maybe. Yeah, we don't know. because the lockouts not until December 1st. So technically most of the month of November, you can make any move you want.

So is there like a rush of people to sign so that they know they have some kind of, you know, paycheck or they know have some sense of security over the winter? I don't know. And maybe that's what, you know, gets Logan to sign an extension is like, hey, you get this done before December 1st and we're good. If not, we're probably going to trade you once the lockout lifts. And then it's like, and then at that point, it's like, when will the lockout lift? How many games are ultimately going to be played? Are we going to get a full season? Are we only going to get like 75% of a season, whatever?

That's just going to further diminish Logan's trade value though. But that's why I land on George because that trade value is going, you're still going to get three playoff runs. Right. Of George, you'll be trade for him this summer. Even if even if 2027 is just like a 90 game season, you're still getting three playoff runs with George. But my point is, I just. don't want to be left with nothing for Logan Gilbert, especially because the qualifying offer is probably not going to be a part, or it's not going to be a thing post-CBA.

I think with Major League Baseball and their latest proposal, kind of making that concession, quote-unquote, that, you know, they'll get rid of the qualifying offer. I think that's pretty much confirmation that the qualifying offer is not going to be a thing once the new CBA is agreed upon. It's a nothing burger that the owners can give the players to get a concession. Right, right. That's why that's, yeah, for those of you that are that are, that are, that are listening just on audio platforms that are not watching me, I use that in quotation marks. But anyway, you know, so you're not going to be able to, odds are you're probably not even going to be able to get a draft pick for Logan leaving in free agency.

So I don't want to be left with nothing for Logan Gilbert. If he's not going to be a mariner beyond 2027. Maybe they go back to a system. But, you know, also maybe they go, they get rid of the qualifying offer, but they go back to a system where like major league baseball still awards cop picks for losing free agency. it's just the teams that signed those players don't have to forfeit picks because that used to be the way it was. Remember you used to have type A, type B free agents? Maybe they go back to that system

that doesn't penalize teams for signing the best players by taking away their draft picks. But yeah, we just don't know. There's a lot of, like, the bottom line is that the mayor should be willing to engage on basically every starting pitcher in their rotation right now, with the possible exception of Wu. I mean, I don't, maybe even Wu.

like because again you're going to have to trade three of these guys over the next two years to make room for kate anderson and ryan sloan that's just the reality of the situation i feel pretty good about woo and miller being here yeah no i do too but what i'm saying is like i feel hey you know what you tell me that uh to bet money on whether or not george kirby's going to be here on august fourth the deadline's what the third or whatever i'm putting pretty much everything on like oh yeah he'll be here i'm just saying the mariners should be willing to listen yeah And I'm not saying that they should trade Logan Gilbert. It's just I think they need to be open to it this year no matter what. Just because of the timing of everything. If you're not going to spend significant money, you have to be willing to do things that are uncomfortable, like trading a player maybe a year earlier than you want to, just to make sure you maximize your window,

keep the window open as often as possible. And again, obviously the mayors fall out of this entirely over the next month. It makes those conversations way easier. But for now, kind of where they're at. I think I, no matter what, like they could be, you know, they could win 12 in a row before the break. And I would still be telling you sitting here, be like,

they should listen on George Kirby, see what they can get, see if they can find a deal they like. And again, it's a very specific deal I'm looking for for George Kirby. I want a major league helper now and a close to major league ready or major league ready top, you know, 50, 60 prospect, give or take. That's what I want for George Kirby. That's my starting point. Yeah.

And maybe no team like that exist. Maybe the mayors find the one team that does. I don't know. I think Arizona is a pretty good spot to look. But again, I just think the mayors have to be willing to be creative and bold because they're going to trade these guys at some point anyways. Why not do it now when you have the extra starter and you can actually trade a major leager without feeling the ill effects of it from your major league roster because you have the five guys still and Kate Anderson ready to go. Like you still have starting pitching depth, even if you trade one of these. six guys that you have right now. That's very rare.

You're probably never going to get another opportunity like that again. You should try and take advantage of it. All right. That is going to do up for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marrars Podcasts. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. And once again, if you never miss an episode, it's time to make it official. Join the Lockdown Every Day or Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members-only only Discord and more, all built for our most loyal fans.

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