Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - So the Phillies Don't Want to Have a Serious Conversation About Alec Bohm

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Adam Jude of the Seattle Times released an article Wednesday morning detailing some of the Mariners' recent trade talks, which includes a note about the Phillies' ridiculous asking price for third bas...eman Alec Bohm. Ty and Colby react to that, as well as Seattle's reported interest in Cubs second baseman Nico Hoerner, and more. Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.Omaha SteaksFrom legendary steaks to mouthwatering desserts and more, save fifty percent off site-wide at OmahaSteaks.com. Plus, our listeners get an extra thirty dollars off with Promo Code MLB and a thirty-dollar reward card when you shop early.IbottaDownload the FREE Ibotta app now and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get 100% cash back on your Thanksgiving feast starting November 1.FanDuelYou can start the season with a big return on FanDuel. New customers can place a FIVE DOLLAR bet and you’ll get started with ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS - if you win your first FIVE DOLLAR BET ! Visit FANDUEL.COM to get started. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, apparently the Phillies don't want to have a serious conversation about Alec Bome. Let's talk about it here on the Locked on Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Wednesday, December 4th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:00:27 This is Tadda Gazzalas and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marriss podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Adam Jude of the Seattle Times dropped a banger of an article today with a ton of information about the marriage trade talks so far. We're going to get into that. Plus, the professional yapper himself, John Marosi, says he's keeping an eye on the mirrors and a top free agent at the winter meetings next week. And since we have nothing better to talk about, screw it. We'll bite. We're also going to announce the winners of our latest giveaway towards the middle of the show.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 So, hey, remember yesterday's episode where Alec Baum was my number one external third base option for the mayor is because seems like he's going to get moved this winter for a pretty reasonable price and there aren't many guys that I can say that about oops I guess I was I was really
Starting point is 00:01:48 wrong on that I really missed the mark on that one because today Adam Jude and his article on the Seattle Times said that the mayor's have talked about Bome with the Phillies and the Phillies proceeded to ask for Logan Gilbert or George Kirby for him this is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:02:04 right and it's it's very clear that in these negotiations the Phillies are trying to use the jonathan india brady singer deal as like a point of reference which that's not even in the same universe brady singer is not in the same universe as george kirby or logan gilbert but bomb is in the same universe as uh jonathan india yeah so like not say much what are we doing here man like No, Dave Dombrovsky doesn't want to have a serious conversation about it, but clearly. No, and, you know, I think, you know, obviously you start a negotiation. You always want to start on the high end and work your way towards the middle. You understand that.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But the problem here is that you've set the, like, the opening salvo so high that it is literally a waste of Jerry and Justin's time to continue that conversation. Like if I'm Jerry and Justin, I'm just crossing boom off the list until the Phillies come back to me and want to be like, hey, you want to have a serious conversation? And yeah, we were always willing to have a serious conversation. So on the one hand, it's like, yeah, Dumbraowski, you know, starting off really high at a price he knows he has no shot of getting. Like that's fine, but that's also kind of the equivalent of asking of mayonnaise as an instrument. Like, you know what the answer is. The answer is going to be no. And you're just wasting everybody's time.
Starting point is 00:03:30 so yeah bone you know having a high asking price in unfortunately guys i'm going to break some bad news for you here it's still early in the off season uh so him having a high asking price is fine whatever but you still have to be somewhere in the realm of reality right like you so willing to at least have a serious conversation and what you're saying when i say hey what's alec bone and you're like oh you know we we want kirby or gilbert for him is like oh you don't want to trade out of foam okay no problem sorry for wasting your time like that's it like that's it so um yeah you know on the one hand let's like yeah the fillies they're starting high blah blah blah on the other hand it's like yeah you know what the mariners have kind of walk themselves back into
Starting point is 00:04:16 the situation uh but on the most important hand we should be like ripping the fillies apart for having the audacity to propose such a such an idiotic trade like there's just no way around But this is when this is like some of the stuff we see from like like that random Orioles fan who was like could you get Bryce Miller for Ryan Malcastle? This is on the same level. Yeah. Is that bad. This is worse. This is worse.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Because look, Alec. Frank Fiction Friday type of stuff here. Alec Bome was basically a fringe everyday player by F4 standards before this year. Then he was a three and a half one player below average, which really really good year. three and a half one player that's awesome you know for a third baseman especially in today's day and age and how bad you know third base is just across major league baseball like we've talked about but uh also last year he got off to an incredibly hot start and then he was a 96 w rc plus for may onward talking about a guy that was that was a below league average for
Starting point is 00:05:20 the majority of the season that's not worth si young contenders what we doing here right and again not to mention, we could sit here and talk about like, oh, you know, the Mariners don't have a lot of leverage in these talks. Neither do the Phillies. They benched Bome in the playoffs. They've made it very clear that they don't want them around. And they've even kind of leaked that, you know, there's some clubhouse stuff going on with Bome. He just doesn't gel very well in our clubhouse. Yeah. You don't have leverage either. Yeah. So to sit here and act like you have all the right in the world to ask for a Cy Young caliber pitcher with more years of club control, mind you, than your. below average everyday third baseman, unless you just think 2024 is the gospel on him. You know what I like about George Kirby and Logan Gilbert?
Starting point is 00:06:08 They've had years like they've just had before. You're not banking on them to do something they haven't done again. They haven't done yet. Like, no, no, you know who they are. And we don't know who Alec Bohem is, but if you had to bet, you had to lay a bet, he's probably closer to who he was in 2022 and 2023, especially since most of the upgrades and his war,
Starting point is 00:06:28 statistics come from defensive metrics, which we know are totally unreliable in small one-year sample sizes. So it's absurd. It is absolutely absurd. Like, Nebraska should be dragged over the coals for this. Like, it's absolutely insane and it's silly.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And it's not, like you said, it's just, it's not a serious conversation. Like, we're clearly not even like, you're not even trying to have a conversation with us. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:54 We're going to move on. Like, I, I would rather have Ramone Ureus than Alifone. very similar players. I'd rather have him because he's not going to cost me. The Orioles don't even have the nerve. They wouldn't have the nerve to ask for that for Ramon Ureus.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'll go get Willie Castro on a one-year deal. The twins are not going to ask for like, no, no, it's absurd. So on the one hand, it's like you can't blame him for asking. I can't because you're. Yeah. I mean, look, I get it. Like the Mariners don't have a clear in-house option at third base. They don't have a real option.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And teams know that they're not going to go out in free agency inside a third basement. And one, because there aren't many options to sign, and two, because obviously we know the story about Mariners and spinning. But, yeah, Dave Dombrovsky just blew in from Stupid Town if he thinks that he can get Logan Gilbert or George Kirby for Alec Bome. Yeah, and I don't think Dumbrowski is stupid. So, yeah. This is obviously a, let's see how desperate you are thing. And the Mariners saying, like, no, we'd rather roll with Dylan Moore at third base and Ryan Bliss at second base. then give up Logan Gilbert for your one and a half win third baseman.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Screw you. And like I said, if you're Jerry and you're Justin, there's literally no reason to continue this conversation right now. None. Because if that's the starting point, you're not interested in having a serious conversation. We're going to look elsewhere because we do need to find a third baseman.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But you know what? For a one and a half player, I can go sign a mod Rosario and ask him to play third base for $3 million bucks. And is that as good as Al at Fome? Honestly, might be. Might be. like you can't say it's definitely not going to be.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And I get to keep Logan Gilbert. Oh, no brainer. No brainer. So when you're ready to have a serious conversation, you give us a call. But I'm not pursuing this angle anymore because you're not willing to have like a real discussion. Now, to be fair, for all we know, this characterization is a bit off. And it's like, hey, would you be willing to trade Gilbert or Kirby in a package that includes Bome or any of that? and the mayor's just like, no, we're not trading Kirby or Gilbert, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So maybe that was the tone of the talks or whatever. Or maybe it was just mentioned, like, I don't suppose you, like, we don't know exactly how. But I can also see it considering how limited the third base options are, considering that boom, you can frame it as he's coming off of a three and a half win season. He's a young player that has full years of club control, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, right? Like, it's a little tough to buy that from the Phillies when they've literally made it abundantly clear. They want this dude off their roster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Like, they're not even trying to hide that. So it's like, yeah, you know, take it, you know, take your like, oh, we have leverage, talk and stuff it because you don't, because we know this guy's not going to be on your roster in April one way or another. So, yeah, it's all just a little absurd. But again, we're reading into like. out of context, well not, you kind of out of context quotes about a situation that somebody's privy to, but may not have had direct dialogue in blah, blah, blah. So you want to give a guy like Dumbrowski who's a Hall of Fame executive, you want to give him, you know, more credit than this.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But based on the information we have, it is laughably stupid that he would even waste anybody's time with this asking price. Yeah. So in Jude's article, Bome wasn't the only player mentioned that the mayor has. have had talks about. We'll get into the other guy that they talked about. In just a moment, but first a reminder, this episode of the lockdown errors podcast is brought to you by Fandul. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with Fandul, America's number one sportsbook,
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Starting point is 00:11:20 article that dropped today on the seattle times we just talked about the the alec boom stuff and that ridiculous asking price from the Phillies. Now let's talk about Nico Horner. Someone that we've talked about a lot as well, along with Bohm. The Marrists have apparently had preliminary talks with the Cubs about Horner, and the Cubs apparently want an established major leaguer in return for their second baseman. Do the Maris have that? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:11:54 What do you make of that? It's a little tough to say because, you know, established major leaguer, it's like, okay, well, you want a bullpen arm, you want an outfielder, you want an infielder. It doesn't make sense really to be an infielder, so we can probably eliminate that. You want a starter, reliever, you know, outfielder. And looking at their roster right now, do they even want an outfielder? Yeah, I mean, the outfield is pretty jam-packed. And, you know, the infield. They have Crowe Armstrong.
Starting point is 00:12:22 They have Hap. They have Suzuki. They have Bellinger. They're trying to trade Bellinger, but, you know, good luck to them. So, yeah, it's like, I mean, they just signed Drew Smiley, but they could probably use another starter. But, like, again, you're not trading Gilbert or Kirby for two years of Horner, even though Horner is a significantly better player than Alec Boehm with a longer track record. So, like, that's out. So it's like, are you talking bullpen?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Like, are we talking like Andres Munoz here? because I think at some point you have to really strongly consider that even though, again, at that point now I have to go out and I have to replace Munoz. But, you know, do you want to replace a guy who's going to throw 60 innings or do you want to try and find somebody who's going to get 600 plate appearances? You know, so it's a little tough to say when they're just as vague as, you know, an established big league or back. Like, would I trade Munoz for Horner straight up? Probably. I mean like I wish I didn't have to but like I probably have to consider that now I'd like to have another high leverage reliever like in my back pocket already. So maybe yeah maybe that's a Ryan Halsley type like we've talked about in our offseason plan or maybe it's a Pete Air Banks type from the raise or something like that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's apparently going to get talked about a lot at the winter meetings. Right. So you know, we'll have to wait and see. But like if it's like we want an established major leaguer, it's like okay well if it's not. not Luis Castillo or a bullpen arm. I don't know that the Mariners have that guy. So, you know, maybe they do, maybe they don't. Again, what is an established major league? Are the Cubs really interested in Gregory Santos as their established major leager? To me, this reads as we want Kirby or Gilbert.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Right. And they're just like, okay, cool. We'll take Horner, Matt Shaw, and what the hell you have? Right. Like since we're just throwing out ridiculous nonsense, let's just, let's just start there. So yeah, it's a little tough to say again that's so vague. We just want an established big leger. Like technically Gregory Santos is an established big leger.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Also an established big leaguer, Julio Rodriguez. You see the discrepancy there? Yeah. I mean, one name, but again, I don't. They would want an outfielder, but one name that I'm thinking about here is Luke Raleigh. Yeah. Like, could Luke Raleigh for Nico Horner makes sense?
Starting point is 00:14:49 I mean, the Mariners are probably getting the better into that bargain. And I love Luke Rayleigh, but he's, you know, a platoon player. Yeah, strong side platoon. Right, right. And a good one, a really good one too. But, and, you know, he's making the league minimum. So that's a, that's a real bonus to you as well. Like, what's the Cubs first base situation? Michael Bush.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah. So, like, the DH right now would be their outfield that they're rotating through. They saw Isok Paredes. They're going to try and get Matt Shaw at bats. So, yeah, Rayleigh just doesn't seem like a great fit, but he is the guy that, like, I look at it and I go like, okay, established big leaguer has some trade value. In theory, the Mariners can part with him. You know, at that point, they still, they need to go get, you know, Luke Rayleigh type of bat. And that's not going to be cheap either.
Starting point is 00:15:45 but they did find Luke Rayleigh for excess parts. So maybe they think they can do that again. So yeah, just really tough with Horner to like think about like an established big leager and it's like, does you want the established big leaguer to like carry the package or do you like would you take like Cole Young and Gregory Santos? You know what I mean? Like what is what is how important is that established big leaguer? It's such a vague phrase that it's a little tough to.
Starting point is 00:16:15 to parse but yeah you know we'll see um i feel really confident in saying that it's not going to be kirby or gilbert they're not going to trade either those guys for nico horn or not straight up it's not going to be miller woo either no nope nope so that pretty much leaves castillo munoz rayley maybe santos is kind of like do they think colin snider is an established big leger yeah you know and like he's probably about as established as gregory santos if we want to be honest. So I would say probably not to either of those guys. So yeah, it's just a little hard when you say, you know, they want an established big leaguer. You kind of look around with the, like they're not trading Cal Raleigh. Is this where Matt Brash comes in? Possibly. Yeah. Because again, I,
Starting point is 00:17:02 when we saw that report with a very optimistic timeline about his return, that at least partly reads to me as like, hey, he's definitely going to be healthy by April. Ha ha ha, wink, wink, nudge. He's defied the laws of anatomy. Right. Yeah. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. That report to me was a little suss, even though it was coming from a local reporter. So, I don't know. Maybe it's nothing, but I did kind of notice that and go, hmm, I wonder if they're trying to
Starting point is 00:17:43 like sell teams on yeah brash is he's going to be ready to go and like he's looking good in his rehab and all that stuff right so which teams aren't going to fall for like they would have their own doctor look at the elbow and they would do all that but uh yeah uh what's interesting here like i think this is a fun thought experiment would you tie and i guess everybody in the comments if you if you want to chime in. Would you rather trade Munoz or Brash? Brash. Is that interesting? Because both have four years
Starting point is 00:18:19 of club control left. Yeah, but I don't know what Brash is going to look like coming off of T.J. But Munoz is making $3 million than $6, then 8, then 10. Yeah. Yeah. And Brash might be on a similar timeline, but he's a year behind. So it's like, yeah, in 2025, you'd much rather have Munoz, I would think,
Starting point is 00:18:36 coming off with Brash coming off to Tommy John. But Munoz, got nicked up this year. You know, he's got his own history of Tommy John. He got used a lot, a lot of a big workload on him. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So 2026 beyond, I think Brash might be the answer. Maybe you'd rather keep Brash. So yeah, it's pretty interesting. Like how heavily do we want away 2025? So yeah, that's an interesting. Like, would you dread, would you rather assume it's just one for one? Munoz or Brash straight up for Horner. which one would you rather do are you doing either of them uh i would i would do brash for horner absolutely
Starting point is 00:19:21 i'd probably do either because again i just don't know well yeah i like in a vacuum i would do either and look i i would i trust them to go get a high leverage reliever more than i trust them to go find another second baseman that's like even though they already really need another high average reliever. Yeah, yeah. Like, so they'd have to get two, but. Yeah. But, but, um, but yeah, because there's questions around Brash and who he's going to be post T.J. and all that stuff, even though that Tommy John isn't as much of a death knell as it used to be. It feels like. Obviously the bounce back time for relievers is a little bit
Starting point is 00:20:04 less because they don't have as big of a workload. They don't have to ramp up nearly as much, but, but also with Brash is still going to be a violent delivery, you know, does, he hurt the elbow again. A lot of torque you put on that elbow to throw those sleepers and the sliders and all that stuff. Yeah. So you also have to think about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So if the Cubs would want to do Brash for Horner and maybe there's like a couple other pieces involved whatever. Yeah, I would do that. Munoz I'm a bit more hesitant on just because again, I already need a high leverage guy on top of Munoz.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Now essentially I need two high leverage guys if I trade Munoz. I feel good about them getting one. There's quite a few options out there for them to get one of those guys, but can they get two in the same offseason?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Probably not. No. I feel like the bullpen is incomplete. Maybe not a problem, but incomplete. Sure. You're counting or you're hoping on like Garcia or Cranton or
Starting point is 00:21:10 you know, a waiver claim. Like you're hoping you find. mind another Colin Snyder on top of hoping Colin Snyder can do what he did last year or some you can do that or Santos is actually the guy that you thought you were requiring etc. Right. So, you know, there are more like paths to having that really good bullpen than there are paths to having a really good second base or infield or whatever. Yeah. So maybe that's why you're willing to take that shot. But it's definitely not like a no brainer. Like you should there should be some hesitation of like, you know, but you have to give up.
Starting point is 00:21:43 up something to get something. And again, if, if Brash, who I'm not really counting on in 2025 anyways, if that's the guy that makes this deal go, then fine. And like I said, if they're holding out and it has to be Munoz, I'd probably try and get a little something extra back from Chicago, but, or maybe not even extra. Maybe it's like, okay, well, how about we also include this prospect swap and that'll make me feel like blah, blah, blah, blah. Maybe you get a bullpen arm from Chicago. is part of the deal as well. So yeah, I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Let us know, would you rather trade Brasher or Munoz? I think for 2025, you'd rather have Munoz. Beyond that, pretty interesting. They're both going to be free agents. Well,
Starting point is 00:22:26 I mean, Munoz has opt-outs and stuff like that in his deal. But you get to play. Four years of club control on both guys. All right. So before we talk a little bit about Christian Walker, let's announce our winners for the giveaway.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So our first winner is, is Carson Mone 4245 who left this comment. Second winner, Zach Gonzalez, great last name. And our third winner, Just underscore Lions. So the three of you haven't won anything just yet. We are going to spin the wheel to determine what you're going to get, which tier of the giveaway you are going to walk away with. So because we have the three of you on the wheel here,
Starting point is 00:23:09 first, we're going to give away the grand, prize of the three tiers that we hit over the course of our giveaway. And that's the signed Mike Cameron card and the $25 gift card to Simply Seattle. So let's spend the wheel. Whoever it lands on, you're walking away with a Cammy card and a $25 gift card to Simply Seattle. So Carsemon, 4245, you are walking away with the $25 Simply Seattle gift card and the sign Mike Cameron card. your prize, just email us at Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. We'll also leave this in the comments below. And then we'll let you know, we have like a verification process that we typically do with our giveaways that will tell you all about. So you're able to claim your prize. All right. So
Starting point is 00:24:14 we're taking Carson off of here. Now it's down to Zach and just lions. Whoever this lands on is walking away with the Andres Munoz sign card. Whoever it doesn't land on is walking away with the Mitch Hanager signed card. Spend the wheel. Zach Gonzalez, you win the signed Andres Munoz card. And just lines, you are walking away with the Mitch Hanager sign card. So congratulations to our winners. Thank you guys so much for entering our giveaway.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I think we're going to do another giveaway fairly soon for sure at some point. point over the course of the off season. So this won't be your only opportunity to win some stuff from us. So be sure to stay glued to our channels and we will be sure to announce something. So there we have it. Our winners for the giveaway. So now let's get back into our show here, our last segment of the day. Again, we don't have a lot to talk about. So we're going to bite the professional yapper himself, John Marosi, got on MLB network today and said, that Christian Walker and the Mariners are a pairing that he's going to keep his eye on at the winter meetings next week.
Starting point is 00:25:35 To his credit, Christian Walker would be a tremendous ad to the Mariners and very high on my personal big board, which does not be a way better solution at first base than Justin Turner or Carlos Santana, just from a pure baseball standpoint. I mean, like, leadership is cool, but gold glove defense and 30 home runs. and like a 350 on base is even cooler. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:02 I would love for him to be accurate and for him to be right about this. And it would also mean that the Mariners seemingly have more money than we were led to believe over the last couple of weeks, which would also be great news as well. So I would like for him to be real. Big Christian Walker guy here. It's not.
Starting point is 00:26:18 It's not. So, yeah, I look forward to his tweet that Walker's on a plane boarded for Seattle. and, you know, he's visiting and all that stuff. And in reality, he's just going to drive line or something. Or, you know, taking any vacation in Seattle in the winter, as one often does. So, yeah, cool story, John. I hope you're right.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It'd be great if you were. You're not. But in John's defense, he didn't say, like, he just said, like, he's speculating. Like, he was very clear that this is. he always does he doesn't he's not sourced on this right but it was not like he he like implied that he was sourced up on this you know what I mean sure no like yeah I just think that's a fit that makes a lot of sense and and he's right it does it makes a ton of sense you know if you ignore oh what's the word all the evidence that says that the mares are not going to spend that that kind of
Starting point is 00:27:20 money sure yeah sure like basically essentially the words coming out of ownership's mouth that they're not going to spend money on guys and if you ignore that hey they got a shot to sign one soda this off season two i mean so yeah again i hope john's right uh he could really use a win it's been a rough couple year uh for for rocy who rough couple year i mean i was going to say months but like it's been a year now since yeah it's been it's yeah it's the otani like is on a plane to toronto thing yeah which again he was completely used uh by otani agent. I do feel kind of bad for him in that. I do because like he gets dumped on that. It's like he like, he like Marosi is a bit of a yapper, but he is not a guy who has a reputation. Like he's not
Starting point is 00:28:07 MLB scoops. Okay. Uh, like he's he's better than that. Uh, so he absolutely got used last year for the Otani thing, but obviously it's still, you know, egg on his face. And then like, yes, the whole in the summer before he just kept on like, Lars Newport for Logan Gilbert makes so much sense. though literally everybody was like, no, it doesn't. Blah, blah, blah. And so, like, yeah, it's been a rough go for him over the last, you know, year on a national stage and probably over the last 18 months on a Mariners specific land. But one thing's pretty clear.
Starting point is 00:28:43 If it's not coming from Rosenthal or Passon or one of the local beat guys, probably don't probably not coming from the Mariners. So, yeah, John Morosi, probably not accurate on this one. but hey, would love for him to prove me wrong. Would love for the Seattle Marrars organization to prove me wrong. In fact, I am on my hands and knees begging you to prove me wrong, please. Because the way things are shaping up right now, I'm not sure if I'm going to be very excited about this off season.
Starting point is 00:29:16 But if you sign Christian Walker, my mood will change very quickly. It only takes one. Yeah. And what do we always say? be fun. I know what? I would go so bold as to say it would be fun. Mm. Would be fun. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So on that note, that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locked-on Mirrors podcast for Colby Pat Node, I'm Tadigazolus. Be sure give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Merrers. You can follow me at Tadig and Colby at C-Pat-E-1-1. We're also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby and the show at Lockdown Merrers. Have yourself a beautiful baseball. day. We'll see you next time. Peace.

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