Some of the CRAZIEST Seattle Mariners Trade Ideas We've Seen Yet | Fan Fiction Friday
00:00We challenged our listeners to come up with the best marriage trade ideas they could think of.Here's what they cooked up.Colby, hit it.You are Locked-on Mariners.Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast podcast.Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day.Ahoy, Sailors, and it's Friday, November 14th, 2025.This is Tadeng Azales and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Marys Podcasts.
00:29part of the locked on podcast network now the number one sports podcast network it's fan fictionfriday the show where you submit your marriage trade ideas and we grade them on the 2080 scalebased on creativity uniqueness and if they make sense for both clubs before we get into your tradesi want to shout out our title sponsor today fan duel right now new customers can bet just fiveand if you bet wins you'll get 300 dollars in bonus bets to use across the app download thefan dual app today all right let's get into your trades jj is going to kick us off here with a dealwith the Minnesota Twins. It's a big one.Marys are getting Byron Buckson,
01:02whereas he writes here, Brian Buckson,Royce Lewis and Justin Toba. They're all going to Seattlefor Luke Raleigh, Kate Anderson,Las Montas, Tai Pete, Tyler Cleveland.That is a lot to digest.On the realism scale, it's way down there.Yeah.Now, we're only talking about Byron Buckson today,
01:23and this trade is only on the listbecause Buckson has been a hot topic for the last 24-ish hours or so, 36 hours.All thanks to a possibly not, probably not legit source that says Buxon has been pruning down his no-trade teams and all that,and he's open to a trade.Maybe he is, maybe he's not.We know that last summer he said he wasn't going to waive his no trade clause.But, you know, we'll see things.can change, and if the twins are going to continue to sell, maybe he changes his mind.
02:00So on the off chance that Byron Buxton is available, there's a couple of questions here.A, should the Mariners be interested?Yes, they should be.He's a very good hitter who, yeah, strikes out some, but he's still a freaky athlete.He needs to DH more than ideal just because you're trying to protect him from his injury history.But when he does play the field, he's going to be elite out there in the outfield, and he's a really good hitter,really good base runner as well.So, yes, he's a very good player.
02:29And the contract is quite reasonable.I think he's got, what, three years, $45 million left?Yeah, yeah, it's $15.1 per.Yeah, that's incredible value for the guy.So, yes, if Byron Bucks and were to be made availableand he was willing to waive his no trade clause to come to Seattle,yes, the Mariners should be interested.Royce Lewis, we've talked about a little bit.
02:50He's a guy.He also can't stay healthy.It sounds like the twins.organization may just be ready to move on from him in general.And Topa is, from a twin's perspective, he's a throw-in.They don't care.If they're trading with Byron Bucks, then they certainly don't care about Justin Toba.But from a Mariners perspective, like if you break down this specific trade, I mean,
03:15is it Kate Anderson and Ty Pete for Byron Bucston?And then, I mean, I guess it's Kate Anderson and Las Montes,with Byron Buckson.Yeah.And then it's kind of Tyler Cleveland for Justin Topa.And then Ty Pete and Luke Grayley for Royce Lewis,if you kind of want to break it down that way.I don't know that the Mariners should do this.
03:38And I don't know that the twins would do this.I don't know if either side would accept this because if you're the Mariners,well, Byron Bucson is awesome.Kate Anderson is a lot to give up for a guy who might only play.And it might be smart to only assume he's going to play.a hundred games a year for the next three years.And that's if everything goes pretty darn well.100 games seems to be a difficult spot for Buckson to get to most years.
04:05So last year was 102, this year 126.Yeah.Now, to be fair, he was worth 8.7 wins by F or by Fangraph standards over those two years.But very good player.No question about it.Anderson's a lot to give up for a player with that big of a.risk. Las Montes, whatever, I don't consider him to be in the top tier,uh, Mariner prospects. I know I'm, I know I'm probably an outsider for,
04:32for that perspective, but like, whatever, don't care. I don't know. This is a deal thatultimately I, I don't know if either side would do this. So it's, it's kind of a difficult deal,but I think ultimately the reason this grade is going to be dragged down quite a bit is,I just don't feel this as realistic, really at all. Yeah, yeah, it's not realistic at all. Um, it'sfun uh it's fun to kind of break down um would i trade kate anderson and las montes forfor barren bucks and that's really the crux of this right yeah i can talk myself into it i wouldrather give up like michael arroyo and harry ford in addition to las montes then give up kateAnderson mostly because I think Kate Anderson is going to be in the marriage
05:29rotation in 2027 and it's going to be because he is there to replace Gilbert or Kirbybecause they're going to trade that trade one of them sure yeah no Anderson is veryimportant to how this is all going to work down the road right yeah um yeah I'mprobably just going to give this like a 40, 45.Yeah, I think that's about right.Like, it's fun.Buckson is the name we definitely should talk about,especially if he is,
06:00you know,open to a trade and all that.And we get like confirmed information that he's like open to a trade and all that.But the realism just isn't here.The valuation is really tough to get.And I just,I don't see any player that's going to be traded this winter that theMariners would trade Kate Anderson for.
06:16I think he is too important to what they want to do in 2027 and beyond.that they would rather, you know, overpay with, you know, top prospects than give upNate Anderson.Maybe.And I mean, he was just such a gift that fell on their laps, too.Yep.So, he was their number one player by a mile.Yeah.
06:38Yeah.So, yeah, I just, I think keeping Anderson also allows you to have the conversations aboutGilbert and Kirby, whenever the next offseason is, it might be in March for all.we know with the lockout looming but uh yeah buckson's injury history is a bit of a problem so i'minterested i'd give up top prospects for him i don't think i'd give up anderson or emerson um yeahmaybe sloan maybe farmello somebody like that but not yeah anderson or emersoni could still talk myself into it i think i just love byron barks isn't that much oh he's awesomehe's incredible yeah yeah 40 all right uh next trade here from aden
07:20Blaise Alexander andDre Jameson from the Diamondbacks for LukeRaleigh, Luis Swee Spel, Michael Moralesand Christian Little.Drey Jameson, that's someone that you brought up on thePatreon yesterday.Yep.A pretty decent chance he just gets
07:36DFA'd and is out there on waiversat some point this year, this winter.So, you know,decent stuff,decent, you know, prospect, profile.Just hasn't really made it work at the big leagues.and injuries to worry about as well.To me, the interesting
07:54person in the street is Blaze Alexanderbecause I think he'sa potential Dillan Moore replacement.He is a very good athlete.He is a good defender.He is a fast, fast runner,and he's got contact issues.So, yeah,
08:10that kind of feels a little bit like aDillanmore replacement to me.Thecurrent infield for the Diamondbacksis pretty loaded up with Pardomoand Marte and Lawlerand, you know, they're going to wantTommy Troy to be in there pretty soon.
08:26So I could see the movie Blaze Alexanderas it just doesn't really fitand if they can get something somewhere else to help them,I think that makes sense.Does this trade make sense?Like, would you trade Luke Rayleigh for Blaze Alexander?Straight up?Yeah, I would.
08:41I don't know if they would, but I would.The steel is kind of weird with just like all the stuff involved.I mean, none of it is like prohibitive necessarily.I just, it's just a lot of stuff going on.Yeah, it's almost like overly complicated for what should be a pretty straightforward trade.Like, yeah, yeah.Blaise Alexander for Luke Grayley, that's about fair.Dre Jameson for any one of these three guys, probably more than the Diamondbacks could hope for it.
09:11But you add it all three, like, unless the Diamondbacks really like Blaze Alexander,I think they probably have to take this deal because they're probably.probably DFA and Jameson at some point anyways.But I do wonder, you know, Michael Morales is Rule 5 eligible.I think Suissebell is as well, if I'm not mistaken.You might be, yeah, yeah, I think so, you know.Like, like if this deal was just like, if this deal was just like Rayleigh and Morales for Alexander, I think that that would be fine.I think that's like a 55, a 60 there.
09:43Yeah.And I don't think it would take.So, so that said, I don't think it would take Louis Suisse.Spelling Christian Little to get Drey Jamison.No, probably take one of them, if that.They might just keep you Trey Jameson to clear the four.You might just get them, yeah, you might just get them for cash.So it's a little overly complicated, but I still think this is a good idea.
10:04Blaise Alexander is a utility Dillenmore replacement type, you know, valuable piece offthe bench.It's a really good call.So I'm still going to give it a 55.It's just a little overly complicated, just for the sake of complication.Unless I'm just wait, maybe the Diamondbacks.love blaze alexander but i doubt it yeah maybe um yeah i'll go i'll go 50 yeahall right we will go over more of your trades here in just a moment but first a reminder
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12:42and you're listening to the lockdown airs podcast part of the lockdown podcast network your team every day thank you so much for making us your first listen and also thank you for making lockdown the number one sports podcast network it's fan fiction friday let's get back into your trade ideasmatthew has a deal here with the red socks george kirby for patrick sandoval marcello merr and kison weatherspoon this is fun i like this one yeah umUm, this is kind of a weird, I haven't, I don't keep track, right, like on a spreadsheet, but I feel like just because I'm the one that scrolls through all the trades and picks them, I feel like George Kirby is the most popular name in fan fiction Friday of the year so far, either giving away or, you know, getting back.Like, it's either him, you tell Marte was up there a lot this week. Um, but I think George Kirby is like the most traded asset in the fan fiction Friday universe right now.So, I think that's, for the, for the first time, like the, the Brian Reynolds, Ronald Acuna, Jose Ramirez, of the fan fiction Friday cycle is a mariner.Yeah.Yeah.Which, I mean, cool.
13:56Whatever.I've talked about trading George Kirby.I think it's going to happen eventually.Yeah.So, I mean, I guess we could say that about prospects, like Harry Ford's come up a billion times on these shows, but like.The last two fan fiction Fridays, I'm pretty sure George Kirby's name appears more than anybody.Yeah.so interesting to say the least yeah um yeah my thing is marcello mayor great prospect you find
14:21room for him undoubtedly um but like the mariners probably feel pretty good about their youngin field talent he's probably your third baseman to start probably right umi think the mariners if they're trading george kirby this winter they're probably likegive us roman anthony or leave us alonewhich honestly I think is fair not that this trade isn't also interesting by itself I just personally I think the marriage would be like well we need somebody like now Roman Anthony we know is good right now we want Roman Anthony especially because we're going to have to go replace Gilbert because yeah or Kirby because Patrick Sandoval is coming off of injury a season long injury and he got shut down from his recovery midseason right so that's risky and then Kyson Witherspoolfor the same reason, you can't just be like, oh, Katie Anderson is going to, you know, replace George Kirby.You can't say that Keisen Withers.So this still leaves the Mariners extremely vulnerable in the rotation.
15:24They'd still have to go out and get George Kirby's replacement in free agency, and that's going to cost money or trade assets.They're going to trade some assets, which if they add Marcelo, Mary, and Keisen Witherspoon, they have plenty of to go out and get your replacement.So this is interesting.My hunches the Red Sox say no.but I don't think they should.I think it, like, if you can't get scubel, right,then this is the next, if Kirby was out there,it's probably the next best arm, him or Joe Ryan, right?
15:56Now, I think the Red Sox would probably be like,no, we're not going to give you, Mayor,we're not going to give you Anthony.You could have Jaron Duran.Well, who knows, though?Like, maybe the Red Sox would value Kirby morejust because of the club control, right?Right.
16:11Right.Two extra years over.over schooland one extra year overJoe Ryan.But I do think like if the Red Soxare going to make a trade for afront line starting pitcher or whatever
16:24they're going to be peddlingDuran as like the big piece going back.Right, right.That makes a little bit of sense for the merit.Like if it's Duran and Witherspoongoing back to Seattle,maybe they consider that for Kirby.They would probably be like, hey, we'll also give us
16:39Cutter Crawford. We need likea replacement in that. It's verysimilar to what we talked about last year with Luis Castillo where it's like we need a Castilloreplacement in the trade or we're not going to do it. And I still to this day, I think the biggesthang up of last year's Louise Castillo to the Red Sox talks was the fact that the Red SoxCox would not add Cutter Crawford to whatever the trade package was. And the Marinerswanted that Louis Castillo replacement because they knew they were going to have to go spendmoney to replace Luis Castillo if they didn't get the replacement in the trade. And we know
17:10that they didn't have a lot of money to spend last winter so yeah yeah but anyways this trade onits surface very interesting it's super interesting yes if the mirrors were not in the position thatthey're in right now you know like coming off of being eight outs away from going to the world seriesall that like if they were more like fringe wild card contenderthen they lost in Detroit yeah by Toronto like maybe that like I'd be more into this ideaUm, but yeah, um, by the way, on Cutter Crawford, he's got knee and wrist things going on right now.Like, yeah.Yeah.
17:49Ryan, like, they're going to need, they're going to want to pitch her back, that they feel good about starting in 2020.Yeah, yeah.Is there a trade force curvy right now.Yeah. Crawford has a lot of issues. Howke has issues, uh, Sandable has issues. So, like, is there a world out there where the Mariners actually land scubal this winter? And they're like,well, now we'll trade George Kirby and replenish some of the prospect capital we lost.And now we'll just, you know, the Red Sox make a ton of sense for Kirby.So yes, there is a world where that scenario plays out.But I think that is the scenario that would have to play out for the Mariners to trade George Kirby this winter.
18:28So I would say this.I really like Marcel O'Mair.I really like Heism Whelerspoon.We talked about him during the summer, how we thought he was a really nice fit for the mayor.and maybe they would even entertaindrafting him at number three,especially if Anderson didn't fall to him.And like Sandoval like has been,
18:49you know,a solid number four when healthy.But again,he's coming off of Tommy John and you don't knowhow guys are going to look coming off of that.And he wasn't particularly good in his last full season.But I mean like a time season,he's even better number two.
19:04So I don't know.Like I've always liked Patrick Sandoval.Um, yeah, again, if the marries were just in a bit of a different situation than they're in right now, I'd like this more.But man, this is fun.I think I'm still going to give this a 60.Okay.Well, the realism part of it's going to drag it down a little bit for me.So I think it's probably a 50.
19:27Again, Roman Anthony would be the better fit, but also probably the less likely player.And I also think the Red Sox are going to be like, we're not giving you any of those guys.you can have Jaron Duran, and that just doesn't really do it for me for George Kirby.So the trade as it sits because of where the Mariners are, because of how I think the Red Sox would respond to this offer.I'm going to give it a 50, but it's closer to a 55 than it is of 45.Jack has a deal here with the twins.It's for Joe Ryan, not Byron Buckson.So it's Joe Ryan going to Seattle for Felden and Sallishton, Ryan Sloan, and Michael O'Royle.
20:03Yeah.That sounds about right for two years of Joe Ryan.Feels like a little bit more than the Red Sox gave up to get crochet.Crochet.So.Yeah, to be fair, crochet was only coming off of one year of doing it.He had some concerns about durability and all that.Sure, but crochet's one year of doing it was like Cy Young caliber, Joe Ryan's.
20:34entire career is like really good number three.So not apples to apples there, but also Seleson and Sloan certainly have a lot more risk than even a Kyle Teal or a Brayden Montgomery.So, yeah, I think it's a bit of an overpay, but that might be what it takes to get things done.But I think you're in the ballpark for what it would cost for Joe Ryan.Again, he's a very good pitcher.So probably go 50.I think it's a slight overpay,but ultimately if the Mariners are offering
21:09Sloan and Arroyo and they're like,no, we're not doing it without Celestin.I don't really care about losing FelonCelston. This is a good prospect.Don't get me wrong, but like on the scale of like,oh, I really don't want to trade one of these prospects,he's way down there.If I way down there, I mean like ninth or tenth.
21:27Um, I think this might be on the money, honestly.Okay.So I think I'm going to go 65.Why wouldn't you go 80 if you think this is the perfect trade?I mean, all right.Do you think the Mariners say yes?You think the twins say yes?I don't think the Marys would do this.
21:50I don't think the Marys would do this.I do think the valuation is correct.So?But I don't think the Mariners would do this.So that's why it's a 65.Okay.Interesting.Coward.
22:03Yeah.55.I think it's a little bit of an overpay.Like,I don't think the Mariners would do this either.Yeah.But yeah, it's good.It's solid.
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22:34slash control the zone linkin the description of this episodeour next trade here comesfrom Alexto deal with the raceHarry Ford is involvedas always I think it's lawthat Harry Ford has to be involved in
22:50any sort of raise Mariners trade proposalthe copper this morningyeah yeah that's trueYeah, there was a report that teams are calling about Harry Ford.So the race are one of them.The comp round B pick that we're all expecting the Marys to get awarded is also in this deal.Tai Pete, Teddy McGraw and Tyler Guff, all going to Tampa Bay for Yandi Diaz and Gary Clubbender.So we talked about this two days ago.
23:21Yeah, when we did the ALE East preview.It's probably going to take a top 100 prospect.to get Yondi Diazand I feel like it's going to definitelytake a top 100 prospect to getGarrett Clevengerbut there's only one hereand the comp round B pick isn't close enough
23:38I think to make up the differencesoyeah so I think you're one like top 100ish guyoff hereyeahthe raise will sometimes dobulk
23:54but I think if you're going to convince him the trade Clevengerbecause Clevenger has four years of club control leftand he's only going to make about $2 million this year.You're going to have to actually pay up that extra prospect.So, yeah, I do think that you're at one short here, which, whatever,it's an easy fix, but because I just think it's a little bit of an underpay.based on what I heard they wanted for Yondi last winter,I don't think they're going to take a,
24:30you know,a drastic discount on him.So I think you need like a felon in Celston,probably in here.And, you know,with the Celestin,you could probably get rid of the,the comp round B pick in like Teddy McRaw.
24:44Yeah.Plus like what you have on the back end here,after Ford and the cop round B pick,like who knows what Tai Pete's value is right now?I have no clue how teams view him right now.Teddy McGrath finally was able to pitch this year.Seems like he's healthy now.Cool, but he hasn't pitched a lot.
25:09You know, he's already 24.There's still questions about him and how fast he's going to be able to get to the majorsif he ever does get to the majors.And then Tyler Guff is recovering from Tommy John right now.So there's just like a lot of,it's like Harry Fordand then a bunch of lottery ticketsbecause the cop round B pick is also a lottery ticket
25:29yeahyeah I meanwe know that the Rays at some point did likeTy Pete but do they stilland I will say McGrawand Guff do feel like Tampa Bay Ray targetssure we know the Rays always love to get pitching backin any trade they make
25:50but yeah I just think you'reyou're a player short here.So I think you're in the right ballpark.I just,I think ultimately it's like Ford and Celestin.And, you know,maybe it's Ford,Celestin and McRaw,
26:05those three for those two,probably get you in the conversation.It's possible we're overvaluing Yondi Diaz,but again,just based on what I heard the race wanted for him last winter,and the fact that they have had now,what, three opportunities to trade him?And they still haven't tells me that they're asking prices ridiculous because there really is no reason for the race to hang on Giandi Diaz. None.
26:32Well, again, like we talked about on Wednesday's show, like right now, the hitter market, the Brintel hitter market has been set at what, you know, Gino and Naylor went for.But that was just for a couple of months of those guys.So what is the extra half a year of Yondi Diaz do for his value?does that actually get him to the point that we're kind of expecting gino to be atto cost at least like one like top 100ish guy i feel like yes i feel like that's like the safeassumption to make and then if it's anything lower than that then great um but yeah like right nowi would just assume that like yondi diaz is going to cost the top 100 guy and then for clevengeragain because like he's a lefty who strikes out a lot of guys he's only going to cost
27:21you like two million bucks this year he's under a ton of club control still which doesn't reallymatter for relievers in the end but still uh it's it's something to at least note here like thatprobably should also cost at least another top 100-ish guy right so yeah so i just feel likeyou're off you were off to a good start with harry ford and like the cop brown bee pick makessense here. But it's like after that, I just don't think it really makes up enough of theground for getting both of these guys. So I'm going to go like 40 on it. Yeah, I go like 45.Like I said, you're in the ballpark, but I think you're placing too much value in thetop round B pick. All right. We got another trade here from Aiden and who boy. Oh, okay. All right.
28:14Yeah. Wow. Um, let's not unpack here.I actually, like, I knew this trade was coming.I didn't read all of it, though, and now I am.And, wow, okay.So Fernando Tatis Jr., Fernando Tatis Jr.and Jake Cronoarth are going to Seattle in the seal, which, all right.That's a lot to start off with.And then it's Luis Cascio, Randy a Roserana, Kate Anderson, Johnny Farmello,
28:42Michael O'Royo, and Harry Ford going to San Diego.So would you say the realism on this one's towards like the 80 part of the scale?Yeah, totally, totally.Yeah, it's definitely on one extreme end of the spectrum, for sure.I'll say that.I don't know.I don't even know where to begin with this.I'm at a loss for words.
29:05Sure.So look, Fernando Tatis was brought up by Bob Nightingale as a guy who might get traded this winter.Do I think the Padres are going to trade him this winter?No.Do I think he's going to play that entire contract in San Diego?Also, no.So, in fact, the Padres have painting themselves into such a corner with their payroll that they're considering selling the team.Like, they went way over what they need.
29:36They took out loans, which Major League Baseball hated, by the way, to cover payroll and all that.Like, they just don't have the ownership group or the market.size to support the top five payroll that they had ran for like three years and then all thepenalties on top of that as well for being over the luxury tax and whatnot.So they're going to have to shed salary.And obviously Tatis is a guy who can actually get you something, whereas nobody is going to takeon a majority of the contract of Mani Machado, even though he's still a pretty good player,or Xander Bogartz, or are you Darvish?
30:09Like, this is it.Like this is the guy.Croninworth and Tatis are the guys.and cronan worth in a grand scheme of things trading him really only a drop in the bucket so that's why bob nightingale put him out there i know that on brock and sulk they talked a little bit about it the other day as well so i'm guessing that's why tatees we got a couple tatease trades and we did mention him yesterday barely on the trade preview so i don't think he's going to get traded this winter but if he is available should themariners have interest and the answer is yes of course absolutely the problem is they won't they won'tno this is this is the trade that like the dodgers do the yankees do like that's that's what thoseteams do not the sales they lose in the a lDS you know who doesn't do that the Seattlemariners so um they wait till the ALCS to lose um yeah so like i think just to try like work
31:13work in the process here, I'm guessing.Castillo and Tatis, their salaries are pretty much the same this year, so that's a wash.But obviously, the Padres save a ton on the back end of Tatis's contract.Croninworth is less expensive than Randy Rosarena, but a Rosarena is a free agent after this year.And Rosarena gives you a decent replacement for Tatis' offensive production, like at least somewherein the ballpark of it.So I think that's part of this as well.And then it's like,
31:50so Castillo is just offsettingthe salary of Tatis for this year.So what does Fernando Tatis cost you?Katie Anderson,Johnny Farmello, Michael Arroyo, andHarry Ford fornine years and$280 million
32:05or whatever it is,a Fernando Tatis Jr.Um,To say this is a complicated trade is to put it lightly.Yeah.Yeah.Yeah.My grade is that's my grade.
32:28This is really here, guys,so we can talk about Fernando Tatis Jr.He's not getting traded this winter.I highly doubt it to say the least.I think it's significantly lower than like scubal or Catell,getting traded.Oh, significantly.significantly like right but again just file the name away in the back of your head i think maybe not
32:48this year maybe next winter after the lockout or the winter after uh tatis junior becomes a realidea it's it's really the last five years of the contract where you're going to be paying him37 million dollars a year where it's like is he going to be worth that maybe he's only 27yeah but also do you care if you get five years of like below market value of tatisdo you care about the last four years?Yeah.All right.Well, there you have it.
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