Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Sources: Mariners Still Shopping Pitching + Bench Battle Opens Up

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

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The Mariners roster might not be as locked in as we thought earlier this week. We'll tell you why coming up here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Colby hit it. You are locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. It is Thursday, March 2nd, 2023. This is Tiding Azales and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Mariners podcast.

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And you know us, you know, we've never claimed to be newsbreakers. We don't really have sources too often. We don't typically leak information. that's not really our MO, but we do get information from time to time. And one of our trusted sources that we do occasionally get information from messaged me earlier this morning and gave me some interesting tidbits of information. So we're going to go over that on today's show. So let's start with Tommy Lestella here.

Of course, we're about a week removed from when Lestella's elbow injury was first reported. He was supposed to be in the Mariners lineup on. the spring training opener against the San Diego Padres last Friday, but was of course removed due to an elbow injury. And we haven't seen him since. And we haven't really heard anything about him since. But I'm being told that he's still very much in pain. He's tried to swing the bat a little bit. And it's just, it's hurting him when he's been trying to swing. And even when he was healthy in swinging, I've been told that the Mariners Field staff hasn't been very impressed with what they've seen. Apparently the, the Achilles injuries that he's suffered in the past are still kind of ailing him a little bit as well. He's just not 100% altogether here. So, Colby, we're going to talk about how this impacts guys like Colin Moran and Cade Marlowe, etc. in a bit. But first, I want to get your reaction just to this information here that Lestella is not doing so hot right now.

Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer. We know that Jerry and the front of, office have really liked Lestella for a while now. This is their second attempt to get him, and this time they landed him, at least second. Maybe there was another one we don't know about, but yeah, and when you look at what he's done when he's healthy, it makes sense, right? This guy who doesn't strike out, he puts the ball and play a ton. He's got some doubles power, you know, some good, you know, on-based skills and stuff like that. Like, there's some legitimate upside in the bat. Unfortunately, you know, injuries have just kind of been the story of his entire career and now kind of looks like

the last couple of injuries he suffered has maybe ended his major league career. We'll wait and see. I certainly don't want to say that Tom and Estelle's done, but the fact that he can't swing the bat right now, and that's literally his only path to the big leagues is to be able to swing the bat. That's troubling. And while he does have a few more weeks, you know, you can't, if you're the Mariners, you can't just wait around for Tommy Lestella to feel like you can start hitting. You're going to get to a point of critical mass where he's going to be so far behind from

the time missed that you just have to move on. The good news is that while the Mariners did give him a major league contract, it was a on the league minimum. So there's no restrictions whatsoever for moving on from Lestella. If they feel like they need to, they should and they shouldn't wait. So it's a bummer because Lestella had a shot to be kind of a, you know, a solid, you know, 100, 110 WRC plus guy at the bottom of your lineup, get on base, make a lot of contact type of player.

But it just doesn't seem like that's the case anymore. Like you said, pre-injury, even elbow injury, the Mariners Field staff, not all that impressed with Lestella at the plate. And now, obviously, if you can't swing, you can't fix, you know, the problem. So it's just not a great, not a great, it's not a great, it's not a great, it's not a great sign that Tommy Lestela is long for the big leagues even. I mean the thing that's really concerning to me and the thing that really jumped out to me was I was told verbatim Scott Service knows that Tommy Lestella is washed. Yeah. So that's not a good sign for his chances of making the team. Ultimately

this is up to Jerry to Poto, right? But yeah, service and company not being impressed at all. And essentially thinking that he's just he's done. Right. That's me, you know, we, we, we, we, did put him in our 26 man projections the other day. After hearing this, he's out for me. Just if service and company feel that way about him, then it's over. That's a wrap. Right. It's worth noting that it's not solely Scott's call. It's also not solely Jerry's call. There is a collaborative effort. Everything that happens in the baseball decision side of things is a collaborative effort. If, you know, Jerry put his foot down and said, we're going to make Lestella work, then he probably would be on the opening day roster, assuming he's healthy even.

But that's just not quite how it works, right? It's a very collaborative effort. They work together. Scott and Jerry trust each other. And if Scott is telling, you know, Jerry and Justin that, like, this guy just doesn't have it. Like, we need to look elsewhere. They're more than likely going to be inclined to believe, uh, believe Scott. And, and, you know, Jerry's, you know, a baseball guy, former player. Justin's obviously very smart. So those guys can watch the same thing that these two guys watch and come to a decision. But I would say, yeah, based on what we know now,

the odds of Lestella making this team are basically zero at this point. So I asked, you know, and follow up if this meant, you know, Colin Moran was the biggest benefit factor from this news or, you know, maybe Cade Marlowe or maybe this meant a trade or something like that. And I got a couple of pretty interesting answers on that. So we're going to go over that in just a moment.

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Moran, Marlowe, what were they hearing? Or, you know, maybe were they hearing about a potential for a trade or something like that? We're going to get into that last bit a little later on here. But let's talk about Moran and Marlowe. I was told that this team really is impressed with Cade Marlowe, specifically the Mariners field staff. Guys like Scott Service are very impressed with Cade Marlowe. Hearing things like there's legit 60, 70 great speed here with Marlowe, which is, of course, you know, the reputation that Marlowe has kind of built for himself over the last couple of years. But to hear that kind of being confirmed by the Mariners coaching staff.

is certainly something here. And Marlowe's had a pretty decent start to the spring. It hasn't been fantastic by any means, but he's had a couple big moments. I think he has one or maybe even two home runs at this point. He has a triple, a basis clearing triple. So he's had a pretty good start to the spring here. So I mean, you know, part of Lestella's appeal,

at least when you look at him at face value, at least for us, I don't know how the team viewed him. But for us on the outside, it was like, well, Lestella can play a little bit in the infield. but do you think that even for someone like Marlowe who is exclusively an outfielder that this could benefit him, that Lestella not making this roster could benefit someone like Marlowe and actually give him an opportunity to make this roster? Sure, because now you also have the DH, right, is kind of open.

And we know that the Mariners want to rotate guys through the DH, but that doesn't mean you're not going to have, you know, a primary guy or something. somebody who plays there a lot. And having Marlowe on your roster could allow somebody like Teosker Hernandez to DH a few more days, which is beneficial to obviously Teo and also the Mariners, because Marlowe is going to be better defensively in a corner. You know, a defensive outfield of Marlowe and left, Julio, and center, and Kelnick and right is probably about as good as the Mariners could hope for at this stage.

but yeah so I can understand why you want the backup infield ability but if you're already going to carry Dylan Moore in Sam Haggerton on this roster if you're going to carry both of those guys you're covered right you don't need another infielder so Lestell's ability to play the infield I mean yeah it was a nice little bonus but the Mariners if the Mariners think Cade Marlowe is ready they shouldn't you know forego giving him those early at-bats to carry an extra infield or just because they're worried they can't cover the infield because they can. They absolutely can. So I would say, you know, I think Moran's probably, you know, ahead of the curb right now. But Marlowe, obviously, you know, being talked up this much by the field staff and the kind of spring that we've seen from him so far is, are two things that really can't be ignored. And obviously, you know, the injury to Taylor Tremel kind of opens that up even more.

So it's, I think the infield thing is interesting. But ultimately, I think Jerry and Justin and Scott and Manny Act and all those guys, they're smart enough to look at it and say, we don't need to carry a guy who can play the infield. Just to say we can carry a guy who we have the infield covered. We just need to take the best bat with us. And maybe if they think that is Caden Marlowe, then great. do it. I think it'll be Moran.

I think, you know, there's a little more safety there, but I'm certainly not going to be upset if they carried Cade Marlow North with them. And if it doesn't work out, it's really not that big of a deal. Marlowe's got three options left. He's already on the 40-man, so you don't have to make a 40-man move. It's pretty seamless.

It just kind of depends on what the... Do they want athleticism and upside, or do they want kind of the safety of Colin Moran? Right. Looking at Marlowe's numbers here, just got them pulled up on MLB at bat. Eight at bats so far. Two-fifty average.

Home run, three ribs, and stolen base so far for Marlowe's. How many strikeouts? It doesn't have strikeout numbers on there, actually. That's kind of the big one. Couldn't tell you. Also, quality of pitching matters a lot. And Marlowe, it's tough to say right now.

Who did he hit his home run against? Can't even remember. It was one of the games I wasn't televised, so. it was the game against Cleveland right or was it Cleveland they lost 5 to 1 it was the Angels and by

was it the angel game that was actually on TV on Saturdays yeah and by virtue of it being the Angels we know that the guy he hit the home run off of wasn't any good so yeah naturally uh so yeah so you've talked about Colin Moran and you know Moran someone that that can play

some third base play first base basically you know corner and fill your you know, D.H. a little bit. You've made the argument for him over Sam Haggrey on this roster. So I kind of feel like for you, this is automatic, right? That it's just, it's Moran over Marlowe right now for you. But I don't know. You seem to be kind of on board with the Marlowe thing, just hearing you talk right now.

Right. Well, if Scott is convinced that Marlowe's ready to help, if Maniac is convinced and if Jerry's convinced, then, you know, you kind of give those guys the benefit of the doubt. Sure. Yeah. We do know that, at least it sounds like their primary concern right now with the infield is they want somebody who could play third base, right? That's kind of what they're looking at because they do have second base covered.

It's more in Haggerty. You can both play a really good second and shortstop is Dylan Moore. Now, we haven't seen Dylan more yet. We've seen Haggerty, but we haven't seen more. So maybe their concern is actually that, you know, we don't know if Dillmore is going to be available for us on opening day. So maybe we do need that backup infielder. But then my counterpoint to that would be, well, okay, but you need a backup middle infielder.

You need somebody who can play shortstop. So, yeah, it's tough to know until we see Dillamore until we know that he's on track to, you know, make the opening day roster. You know, we can't dismiss the ability to play the infield as something that's important. but if Dimo's going to be out until mid-April, then I think it all but locks Moran in because at least Moran can play third base and God forbid if you have to, you could put Gino at shortstop for a few innings. That did not work out the last time that you played shortstop for the moment.

For a couple innings, so. Oh, really? Coming from the guy who just dragged me for saying, oh, it's just a game. If you have to, you know, use Colton Wong at shortstop. Yeah. That's the other thing. You use Colton Wong. You could use Sam Haggerty.

Like, I just, I think if... Help me out here, guys, in the comments. You guys remember that? You guys remember, like, a week ago when I said that in this guy next to me, drag me mercilessly. Yeah. Yeah. You need a shortstop, right?

But you do need somebody who can play shortstop. If you're only needing an inning or two at the end of a game because JP rolled an ankle or whatever, sure. Fine, you live with it. But it's not like you're going to roll. role with Gino. Is it still out there? I think so.

But yeah. And maybe that's an avenue that they take that we're not talking about. Maybe there's a free agent out there who makes sense still. So yeah, it's, I think Moran is at least an average bat. And it's weird to be excited about an average bat. But when I look at the Mariners lineup right now, that's what it needs. It needs just a 100 WRC plus placeholder while we wait and see what can. Helnic is where we wait and see what Pollock is, where we, you know, wait and see, I guess,

what Marlowe is, what Tramel is. Like, there are other guys there who could be an above average bat. But to start the year, I want just safety, at least out of that DH spot. And to me, that's Moran. But, you know, if Scott says it's, it's Marlowe, if Jerry says it's Marlowe, if Justin says it's Marlowe, then I think at some point you just have to kind of trust their judgment on this. And you roll with it. And again, you don't have to, it's not a long-term thing, right?

You don't have to commit to Cade Marlowe long-term. You can just give it a shot for a couple weeks, see what happens and, you know, roll from there. But I do think that they're also going to have to start looking outside the org. I don't think they can just be complacent with what they have and say the answer will definitely come from within. I don't think they can make that claim. So let's get into that. Because, again, you know, I asked and follow up if this meant maybe the Mariners could look back out on the trade market and let me try to scroll up here into my messages and see if I

can get exactly what our source said. No, I'll just paraphrase. So essentially what I was told was that, or this was the exact response that I got was there's a growing confidence in Mariners camp that Chris Flexen is going to be traded before opening day. so that's really interesting right for for a couple of reasons the first i mean we've talked about how much having you know flexen as depth kind of a fallback option keeping them in the bullpen maybe having them spot start here and there we've talked about you know marco gonzalez might have to go on paternity leave at some point in april so you know maybe flexen will have to make a spot start there And so, you know, the other thing, too, is can you get a bat for him? Can you get a bench bat? Can you get someone that essentially replaces Tommy Lestella's spot on this roster for, you know, a year of Chris Flexen? Does he actually hold that kind of value for you where you can get a valuable, you know, major league position player that essentially outweighs the value of keeping someone like Chris Flexen around? So the other thing too, right, is we talked about.

about this a few episodes ago, you know, Jason Churchill, front of the show on his podcast, baseball things on Patreon, has talked about how the, the Mariners have been apparently reaching out to teams about starting pitching, you know,

and not necessarily, you know, all-star caliber starting pitching, but guys that would maybe fit on the back end of their rotation. So to me, if I'm just kind of trying to put two and two together here, you know, if what church is hearing is correct and what our source is hearing is correct,

then maybe the plan is for the Mariners to go out, get a starting pitcher. Who knows how that impacts Marco Gonzalez in this whole thing? That's a whole other conversation to have. But they go out, they get another starting pitcher and then they trade flexing or vice versa. They trade flexing first and then go out and get the starting pitcher. That makes quite a bit of sense. Right. What do you make of all of this?

I think, you know, it's a good question. I think it's about covering your bases, more or less. You want to make sure that if you do trade Chris Flexen, you have this backup plan, right? And you have this comfort level in knowing that, well, we may be trading Flexen, but we do have this viable major league starter. And, you know, it's worth noting that we were not told that

what pitchers they were asking about. We did not hear that. but we were told, as all of Jason's podcast listeners were, we don't have any special insight here, that they're major league quality arms. They're not looking at like 4A types. They're looking for legitimate major league starters back in guys. So I think it's more about, hey, look,

if we have to make a move with flex, right? If we can get to a move we like with flex, then we can make this trade comfortably. So I think you're right. I think it is more about like, hey, let's, we think we can trade flex for this, but we don't want to do it until we backed ourselves up with a viable big league option that isn't like Bryce Miller or Taylor Dollar or Emerson Hancock. So I think it's probably a bit about that. But, you know, I think it's just value, right? Like let's sniff around.

Let's see what happens. And by the way, if you get to a point where you do acquire that back end guy and he starts pitching well for you or whatever, maybe you get to a point where you get into June July and you are willing all of a sudden to move. Bryce Miller because of this guy that you picked up and you feel good about the back into your rotation. So I think it's mostly just, you know, just covering our bases. Let's just make sure that we have enough pitching so that if we do trade flex and if Marco does struggle, we're not rushing these young guys up to the big leagues. And if the arm that we identify works out and he's pitching better than a number five starter,

then all of a sudden we can trade, you know, Dollar or Hancock or Miller for, you know, something that could help us more at the plate. So I think it's more about that than anything else. And maybe even if they don't get a supplementary arm and they trade flex and maybe that's a signal that they, you know, they think that Miller might be ready by May or so, you know, that they, they feel pretty confident about that. And obviously he's had a pretty decent start to spring and obviously garnered a lot of tension. But, yeah, I don't know.

It's really interesting. It's going to be really interesting to see kind of just how this whole roster shakes out. Because it's just like it, you know, going into spring, it just, we talked about this when we did our roster projections that it just, it felt like everything was pretty much chalk more or less. Yeah. Especially like, you know, in the bullpen, right? Because it's just there's just so many guys that are more or less locked in there. But maybe, you know, if flexing gets traded, right? and they don't have a supplementary arm there.

Maybe that opens up the door for someone like Perlano Barrella to make the bullpen out of the gate. And I was told by our source that they are very high on Barrowa, that they're pretty much equally as excited about Baroa as they've been about Marlowe. But, you know, I was also, you know, at the same time told that our source still feels that Topa, Justin Topa and Trevor Gott still have the inside track on that final spot in the bullpen. But again, if Flexen is gone, they don't. add a supplementary arm, that's another spot that opens up in that bullpen. And there you go. Now Baroa or Topa essentially are competing for that final spot. Right. It's probably going to go to

Topa at that point. But again, you know, there's still different, there's still, what, 18 to 20 odd games left to go in the Cactus League even. So there's still injuries that can occur. There are other smaller trades. For all we know, you know, the Mariners are trading, they end up trading Penn Murphy and not Chris Flexen, you know, like something like that's possible. So especially they're looking for kind of a major league bat. We're going to start to hear more about players who are out of options and don't look like they're going to make their team. And those guys are going to be appealing for a team like Seattle who has at bats to give,

you know, two guys that, you know, in the limited amount of time, I did some research on this. Two guys that kind of makes some sense to me, not perfect sense, but Lamont Wade, junior of the Giants late night Lamont big time you know clutch base hits but he really struggled last year and he's more of a platoon bat but he is a strong side the mariners and giants love making trades with one another around this time of year they they do and you know judging by what they gave up to get you know get borough and what they gave up to get Tom Murphy a few years ago you could probably get Wade for me yeah I mean I do I do that sure so yeah uh trade Especially locked on giants.

Right. Unfortunately, unfortunate for Ben, but unfortunately, the one thing that kind of maybe is not making that likely is that Austin Slater looks like he's going to start the year on the IL for the Giants. And Donovan Walton is going to start the year on the IL. So there's kind of two open spots on that roster.

So it feels like Wade's probably going to make that roster. But we'll see. That's definitely a guy that you can check on. And ironically enough, we do know that one of the teams that, one of the teams that the Mariners are asking about their pitching is, I have no idea how to structure the sentence. Sure.

Is the Giants or is the National League West team? Well, the Giants and the Mariners make a lot of trades. So naturally, it kind of leads to that assumption. So maybe it's, you know, weighed in a pitcher that they like for, you know, nothing. A ham sandwich. I mean A coupon to Pizza Hut The coupon to Pizza Hut is going to be more valuable

than whatever they traded Tom Murphy for And the other guy who I like I like the player But I mean We talk man And we're going to criticize Cade Marlow for strikeouts Keston Hira Oh man

Yeah That that dude somehow struck out like 40% of the time last year And still posted a 115 WRC plus Really? Yes That's crazy I mean look it up man like seriously go look at the numbers right now you you will be blown away you look at his slash line you'll look at the the strikeout rate and you'll go I'm doing that right now

hold on we'll go what he did what um but he is out of options he's a former first round pick we know how much jerry loves those guys really first base dh type but he can't play second if you need him to um and yeah he just never really found his footing him in a walk wow listen to this all right so kesson here uh not to get super for side tracked here, but like he played 80 games last year, 266 played appearances. Like Colby said, struck out 41.7%. 8.6, 8.6 walk percentage.

He slashed 226, 316, 449, which is good for a 115 WRC plus. 14 home runs, 32 ribs. Five stolen bags. That is one of the wildest stat lines. I've ever seen in my entire life. 41 point. He's striking out 42% of the time and he's posted a 115 WRC plus. That's,

how is that possible? How are you nearly striking out half of the time you go up to bat? And you're posted a 115 WRC plus. That makes sense. Kind of intrigues you though, doesn't it? Because like, if I can get that down to like 30% even like,

yeah. Because that's a lot of power for a guy who strikes up. Is fan graphs broken or something? Like this can't be possible. Like, I'm looking at this and it's breaking my brain. Think about how bad Jesse Winker was last year and I understand he had like a 106 WRC plus. True.

But I mean, he also walked like 18% of the time. Well, what did Hero walk? I'm sure it was a lot, right? 8.6. Oh, okay. So a little bit above league average. I think league average is 8.1. That's still a while.

That's a while. It is. I can't explain it. I looked it up. But yeah, he's out of options. He is making a little bit of money this year, two million bucks. The brewers,

I don't want to say they don't have room for him. They do. But he's not the type of guy that you just keep on your roster no matter what, right? Like if a better opportunity comes. And he's only 26, you know. And like I mentioned, former top prospect, former first round pick. We know Jerry loves those type of guys.

And obviously there is surprisingly with a career 36% strikeout. out rate. There is still value in that bat because he's also a career 105 WRC plus guy. So yeah, I can't really explain it either. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But whatever way I think you might have, I think you might have discovered one of the craziest stat lines in baseball history. I mean, because like here's the deal, right, 226 batting average is about five or six points below league average. So essentially league average in the grand scheme of things. 316 on base that is about league average I think league average is 312

at least last year it was and then the 449 slug and that's well above league average I think league average is 425 or something like that yeah so essentially it's a career it's an average slash line with 42% strike out right too because he only had nine extra base

he only had 23 total extra base hits with 14 of those being home runs right but only 266 plate appearances true true good point yeah So, yeah, the profile doesn't scream, control the zone. Right. I mean, you can't, I think I said this. You can't strike out 40% of the time and be a good hitter in Major League Baseball.

Well, I mean, Kesson Hira is putting that to the test. Apparently Kesson Hira is the is the, the exception to the rule. The exception to the rule. Yeah, because I don't, I don't get it. I imagine his like, I didn't look at a. stat cast page, but I imagine it's littered in red. I mean, there's no way. He has to be hitting the ball extremely hard all the time.

You know, when he's not striking. Yeah, when he's actually making contact. All right. Let's see here. I'm going to load up Kesson heroes, savant page real quick. It's loading. We're loading.

We're doing the loading thing. It's still loading. And he didn't register enough to really put any percentile rankings on his page. He had, He was 72nd percentile on max exit velocity, which 54th percentile in sprint speed. Yikes. First percentile in arm strength.

And that's it. Yeah. Shoot off that page. It's starting to do that clicky thing on the audio version. There we go. So fingers crossed. I didn't care. Fingers crossed.

I didn't do. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happened to us. If you guys are hearing this conversation, then it didn't. Yeah. that's what happened to us yesterday. We were recording or we recorded our whole episode.

It didn't sound like that at all on either one of our sides. And then we'd play the episode back. It was just click, click, click, click, click, click. No idea. And then we did it again and it was fine. So I have no idea what happened. By the way, here, a reverse split guy is actually better against Ritey's than he is lefties. So there you go.

They'd be worried about a platoon guy. He's the reverse split guy. So he's a righty who hits right. he's very well, well, but he had some better than lefties. But you know,

he's going to run in some home runs and I don't, like I said, I don't know, I don't know how he did it. But Cassanero was a good hitter last year, um,

despite striking out 42% at the time. Like, Jared Kelnick looks at that strikeout percentage in blushes. Like, holy cow, that's, that's something, man.

That's not an outlier either. Look at his career strikeout rates. They're, they're all high. Uh, not that high. but they're all very high. No, it's still like 36%,

37% something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still striking a lot. I don't know if he was going to fit the mold that they're looking for, but he is a guy without options who has produced in the big leagues that does have some club control and would be relatively cheap to acquire. Gotcha. All right.

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