Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Steven Kwan Could Be the Seattle Mariners' BIGGEST Addition This Winter

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Will Tarik Skubal finally leave the Detroit Tigers, and could stars like Royce Lewis or Steven Kwan reshape the Seattle Mariners’ lineup? Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode dissect each AL Central roster, uncovering intriguing trade fits that might help Seattle address its sneaky outfield need and shore up the bullpen. Key discussions include Cole Wilcox’s arrival from the Tampa Bay Rays, the Mariners’ historical lack of trades with the Tigers, and the upside of adding names like Kerry Carpenter, Byron Buxton, Joe Ryan, and key Guardians relievers. Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONMLBGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA and NFL seasons are here, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

So we've obviously spent a lot of time already talking about Terrick Scoobel, but what about the rest of the AL Central? We'll comb through the Tigers, Royals, Twins, Guardians of White Sox rosters for trade fits coming up. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, and it's Thursday, November 6, 2025. This is Ted and Gazzalas and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marries Podcast.

part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. This episode is brought to you by Fandul. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. And if you bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the Fandual app today. Today's show will mostly be an AL Central trade preview, but the Mariners did make one real trade yesterday that we want to quickly touch on. The Mariners have acquired right-handed pitcher Cole Wilcox from the Tampa Bay raise.

He was DFAed back on Monday, and the Mariners are sending. back to Tampa. Everyone's favorite player, cash considerations. Wilcox's former third round draft pick of the Padres out of the University of Georgia in 2020. So he was a teammate of Emerson Hancock. And he was traded along with three other players to the raise for Blake Snell. Now all of those players that came back to Tampa and that package are gone with Wilcox's trade. And funny enough, the Mariners have two of those four guys. Blake Hunt being the other one. So any thoughts on Cole Wilcox, Colby?

I mean, he might just be 40-man fodder. He could be one of the guys that they have in the pile going into spring training. Yeah, not a ton of information out there, at least statistically. You only had the one major league out and he got roughed up pretty good in it. And then you have minor league numbers that show. Yeah. It's okay. Like there's some skills there. He misses some bats. The strike throwing kind of comes and goes a little bit. So the one thing I did notice, and I think this is the one thing of note, is that he only just got converted to a reliever this last year. He has a ton of innings and a ton of starts in the minor leagues. And so it'll be interesting to see if the Mariners see him as a potential bullpen arm or as, you know, that sixth, seventh, eighth, type of starter that they can stash down in AAA and call up to make the spot starts, especially if they want to move Hancock to the bullpen full time.

They're going to want to replace that role. And I don't think they want to replace that with, you know, necessarily a Kate Anderson, certainly not Kate Anderson yet or Sanger yet. So, you know, this is probably a guy who doesn't survive the entire year on the 40 man. He probably, I mean, there's a decent chance he doesn't even survive the winter on the 40 man. But yeah, it's an interesting arm. He was a third round pick, but he got first round money.

He was, you know, grossly oversawed. He got like $3 million signing bonus. Extremely talented, big stuff. Sinker, slider type of guy, sweeper as well, kind of differentiate the two of them. Yeah, if you look at his minor league savant page, above average whiff rates, above average, you know, exit velos and stuff like that. So there might be something here. And any time the Mariners claim an arm that has some kind of upside attached to it, you wonder if there's a pitch mix thing or if there's a, you know, arm slot thing that they can do to maybe make something pop here.

So again, it probably cost him 50 grand to go out and take this shot on a guy. And he, I think he'll probably start the year as a AAA starter. And they'll keep him, you know, stretched out in case they need innings earlier in the year like they did this last year. And it'll just be, he'll probably be behind Logan Evans if Logan Evans survives the winter on the Mariners, 40 men as well. Might be traded, probably not, but maybe. So yeah, I think it's just org depth. I think he'll probably be in the Tacoma rotation. But if the Mariners really think they see a tweak that they can implement right away,

maybe get more out of that fastball, then I think that is definitely a path that they will consider as well. Yep, he's another sinker, slider slash sweeper guy, 28-degree arm angle. He's a mariner pitcher for sure. and yeah that that that one appearance that he made at the major league level did not go well at all he let's just say he faced seven he faced 12 Red Sox hitters he got three outs yeah yeah not Not particularly good but uh yeah we'll see if they um you know they have something here to to work on with him

or maybe he just gets or maybe he just gets d f a month who knows it's one of those type of guys so we'll see All right. So let's kick off our AL Central Trade Preview. And we'll talk about the Tigers here to start because we've already talked about the biggest name that potentially might go here for the Tigers. That's Derek School. That's right. I believe the Tigers are one of three teams here to Poto has not traded with during his time in Seattle. So if the Mera's and Tigers link up on trade, that would knock off one of those three teams.

The other two obviously being the Rockies and the. angels. I'm going to assume the angels are just forever going to be in that category until proven otherwise. Like we talked about yesterday. That's what we'll run baseball teams do. They just ignore a good trade partner just out of spite. Sure. Yeah. Totally little organization. So obviously the the mayor has knocked out the tigers in the playoffs. Tigers still even if they trade school, I think they're going to try and be competitive to some degree in 2026. Yeah. So not sure what exactly they would be willing to trade off of their major league roster outside of scoble. Anything stand out to you here?

Yeah, I know. That's such a funny thing to say. But we're not going to. They actually trade him. They're our best player. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, if they actually trade him, that's mind-blowing. I don't know how you can read anything other than they want to trade him based on the contract proposal they gave him last winter, which was a joke.

was it four and 80 I think was what it finally came out as like that is ridiculous yeah yeah for four years scoble should be making at least $130 million even with a year to go

until free agency so yeah outside of scubel I mean assuming that they're not doing some kind of mini tear down or anything like that

so probably Will Vest isn't available but somebody like that obviously there's always bullpen arms that you could be interested in. Matt Beerling is kind of interesting. We talked, we kind of looking ahead. It looks like they might want a right-handed or might need a right-handed hitting infield option, kind of a Dillamore replacement, if you will.

And Beerling kind of checks those boxes. So maybe he's the guy that makes some sense also in that same vein. Andy Abagnas, a guy we talk about kind of a lot for like a role player on this show. We've mentioned him quite a few times. But yeah, I don't think they're going to try. trade any of their other starters. So, yeah, I think it's scoble. And then after that, it's, you know, Veerling.

It's Andy of Bonyes. I don't think you're going to get like Colt Keith or anything like that. I don't know if that would even be a fit. Torkelson, after his breakout year, he's not available. Well, he probably not available. And you hope to sign Josh Naylor. So, yeah, I think it's just a couple of like platoon or like role playing righties, role playing righties, role players who hit right handed.

And maybe a Will Vest type, but I don't think that they're going to trade any of their high leverage bullpen guys. Yeah, I mean, Jemai Jones would be fun to pair them up with someone. But yeah, but yeah, they're so platoon dependent. And that's just kind of how, how AJ Hinch wants to operate his offense. So I can't imagine that they would, uh, take away from that. I mean, he was, he was their best right-handed hitter off of the I'd overpay for Carrie Carpenter just to get him off of that team. Sure. Yeah. And also he's a very good hitter. I would love one of their lefties, the bullpen, either Holton or Herder. I'd prefer herder over Holton, but yeah, he just

hurters miss more bats. So, but I would, I would love either one of those guys. But yeah, I can't imagine that they're, because again, it just, seems like even if they trade school bowl they're going to want to try and compete so i can't imagine that anyone else is too too available you just attach them to the school will trade just be like either i get hurt or in this deal or i don't want scubel that's a totally believable line they could use yeah that'll that'll totally work they should definitely try doing that yeah carry carpenter gets in this deal or you don't get dom can zone Don Canzone is just a younger Carrie Carpenter and cheaper too.

Totally. They might be literally the same age. I don't know. Dom's kind of like 28 years old, right? Yeah, Carrie. Carrie is 28 years old right now. And yeah, Dom is 27. Yeah, well, whatever.

But yeah, Scoobble is obviously the name to watch here. And then there's always, you know, a couple of bench bats, platoon bats, and then maybe a bullpen armor too. But not a ton here for Detroit once you get past Scoobel. Yeah. Dominic. zone technically had better numbers than kerry carpenter was also worth the same amount i have for this year chills we cracked your code all right uh we are going to look at the four other teams in the al

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For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone. Link in the description. So let's turn our attention here to the Kansas City Royals, Colby. Royals team that had higher hopes for this, past season after making the playoffs last year and actually winning around. They wound up finishing 82 and 80. They had a bunch of injuries that they dealt with.

Still got fantastic seasons out of Bobbywood Jr. And Michael Garcia, Vinnie Pasquitino took another step. But pretty much after those three guys, it was yikes city for the Royals offense. And then again, like I mentioned, they had a lot of injuries in the rotation. and Cole Reagan's missed a good chunk of the year, for example. So I imagine this is a team that's just going to look to try and retool and get back to the postseason this year. But anyone stand out as a potential trade target?

Yeah, like Michael Garcia is a pipe dream at this point. Yeah. You know, honestly, I didn't see a ton when I looked at this roster. It's not that the Royals don't have, you know, interesting players and good players. It's just are those players that they be willing to move at this stage? you know, to Seattle. I don't really think so. Like, you know, some starting pitching would be nice,

but also the Royals don't spend a lot. And, you know, they are going to try and compete next year. I think we know that. So they're probably not really all that interested in moving any of their starting pitching. You know, just the standard kind of bullpen arms. I've always kind of been fascinated by MJ Melendez, but I feel like that ship is just sailed. Like, it's just not going to happen.

And he's not honestly better than Dominic Canton. Yeah, I think he got sent down this year too. Yeah, yeah. He's basically dominant can zone, which, whatever, I don't need another one of those guys. So, yeah, honestly, not a ton here to look at. Did you come up with anybody? I mean, Lucas Arsag, John Striber, like, you know, some of the guys in the bullpen. The classic one in arms.

Yeah, on Hell Zerpa. I know with someone that I've seen some Marius fans mentioned in like their individual offseason plans or just offseason discussions. Yeah, it's just, I mean, the offense for the Royals last year was just so bad. I mean, like, we know that the mayors have had interest in Jonathan India, but do they really want to

try that? You probably just wait for him to get on Tinder and give him a, you know, a shorter, or a cheaper contract. Like, we've talked about him a little bit. I don't think he's available. But Vinnie Pasquentino is kind of a popular name

as well. But he had a breakout year, particularly in the second half in the power department. So it seems unlikely that they would, uh, they would move him. And then yeah, I mean, remember when we were talking about him and I was like, yeah, he doesn't really hit for traditional first space power. And then he wound up hitting like 30 bombs. I think he had like, I think he had like 11 at the time that we had that conversation. It was like around the all star break. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then he went nuts. But yeah, there's just not a ton here. There's nothing in the outfield. Like you said, Jonathan, India. I think it's just time to give up on that. Um, And yeah, I mean, they've already declined the option on Lorenzen.

So that's not really an option. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, he hit 20 homers and 24 doubles from July 1st onward. Yeah. So, yeah, it's Erseg. It's, it's Serpa. It's the guys that you mentioned, just the bullpen guys. There's just not a lot here to add to the, to the lineup.

And, you know, all rotation trades are kind of working under the assumption that they're trading like Louis Castillo. So just keep that in mind. Like Michael Walker right now, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But if they trade to Castia, would Walker make sense? Sure. Yeah. All right. The Minnesota Twins, and we're going to start with a favorite of yours here, Royce Lewis.

You know, often injured, as we all know, but the talent is immense, you know, former first overall pick. But last couple of years, numbers wise, haven't been particularly good. 237, 283, 388, and 106 games this year. That's an 85 WRC plus. And then 2024 and 82 games, he slashed 233, 295, 452. That's 106 WRC plus. I mean, the slugging there is great, but everything else, not so much. But, yeah, I mean, it's not hard to see why people are still dreaming on Royce Lewis at times.

Like, there are moments even, you know, over the last couple years with, you know, in spite of those numbers I just listed where he's really popped. And it's like, man, if that guy could just stay healthy. Yeah. Right now, you're starting third baseman is Ben Williamson. Yeah. So let's not scoff at the offensive numbers of another third baseman. Sure. Lewis also pretty, pretty good defender.

I mean, he's no Ben Williamson, but he's pretty good. very strong arm. And yeah, the power, it's 30, 40 home run power from the right side pretty easily. He's still young. The one thing that, I mean, aside from the big thing, which is the injuries, there is this kind of perception that the twins are kind of tired of him in terms of, you know, his attitude. Now, this might be fan driven. There's a lot of fans out there who think like he just chases his numbers and he doesn't care about his teammates. and it's like, okay.

Like, if he gets his numbers, he's helping his teammates, but like, whatever. But there have been, you know, murmurs at the actual twins, like the front office and all that, they're kind of like ready to move on from Royce Lewis as well, which is good because he'll be significantly cheaper than he would have been last year or even the year before that because he has less club control. And also there's this kind of dark cloud hanging over him. And he hasn't really produced when he has been healthy the last few years, at least not to a degree that a lot of teams are going to feel really comfortable giving him a shot.

But I think when you look at what's out there at third base in the free agent market, when you look at what the Mariners have on hand, we have to talk about guys like Josh Young and Royce Lewis, guys that you have to kind of take a shot on and hope that they rebound or they produce or that you develop because the alternative is Ben Williamson, who, you know, as far as I know, can't hit at the major league level. Now, maybe that changes. I know the swing change and everybody wants to believe the swing change is going to change everything, but there's still no bat speed there. There's still not a lot of pop there. AAA numbers are not going to fool me.

You have to do this at the big league level. And hey, you know what? Do you trade for Royce Lewis? Ben Williamson's probably going to get some time at third base at some point during the year, right? So you can prove it then. But, yeah, Lewis's upside is immense. The salary is going to be way down. I think the cost to acquire is going to be way down.

So that's a lottery ticket. I'm definitely willing to take a shot on. I would do terrible things for Byron Buxton to have him on my club. Like things I cannot mention on this show. Well, but he's got the no trade. Yeah, he's got the no trade. And as recent as the All-Star game, he said that he wants to be a twin. So that ship has probably sailed.

I mean, it was probably never at the dock to begin with. But maybe, you know, because he did make that statement before. the twins traded literally everyone. Maybe now he's more open to the possibility of playing elsewhere. But I mean, God, I know, like, outfield isn't the biggest need on this roster. But God, Byron Buckson is just so good at baseball. Yeah, Byron Buckson is a really fun player. It's one of those huge cases, like, he could have just stayed healthy.

Like, he's still a really good player despite all the injuries. But, man, if he could have just stayed healthy. But it's worth having the conversation, or at least, asking it certainly is with the upside i'm going to throw a couple names out there that nobody's really talking about but we should be if the mariners are actually very much interested in a taric scuba type and they're willing to pay that price to go get a starter when i think most people would say like yeah the rotation not really a need it it's be nice to add then they should probably be willing to talk about joe ryan uh who is you know three years i believe of club control

It might be two. I'm trying to remember how many he had in the summer. Two. Yeah. But he's not Terrick Scoobel, obviously. He's like a number three starter who misses bats, though. And he's the arm profile that they love. Right.

And so it's one of those things where it's like he checks a lot of boxes. If you're willing to give up major prospect capital for one year of Scoobel, if you don't get him, you should be willing to pivot to Ryan because not only is the cost probably going to be pretty similar, I would think. You get it for two years. And hypothetically, let's say that, you know, Kate Anderson's ready to go for 2027. What do you do in the rotation? Well, I guess you trade Joe Ryan next winter for, you know, 60% of what you gave up to get them and you roll with that. Or you trade Kirby, you trade Gilbert. Maybe extend Ryan. Like, so if they're willing to talk about Scoob, then they should be willing to talk about Ryan, especially if they do trade Luis Castillo. I think Joe Ryan would be a, What about Pablo? Yep, Pablo's also up there. Again, the money is a little bit more.

It's like on par with Luis, so you're not saving a ton there. And also, you know, I know you hate them, but Bailey Ober is a pretty good, you know, number four, number three type. Like the twins still have some starting pitching to deal. And I can't imagine they think they're going to compete this year. So they should be willing to trade a couple of those arms and just kind of roll with their young guys and see what they can do. But yeah, keep an eye on the twins. I think they're a pretty good fit on a lot of fronts here for the Mariners. Particularly if they do trade Louise Castillo, I would zero in on Joe Ryan because they should be aggressive there.

Yeah. If the Mariners wind up trading, you know, Luke Rayleigh and or Dominic Canzon this winter, I would also be like kind of interested in Trevor Larnock. I've always liked him. He didn't have like the best of years this year. He was like 102 WRC Plus, but I've always liked him. Maybe a Cody Clemens type. Yeah.

Yeah. You want to believe in the, you know, the breakout. Yeah. There's some, there's some pieces here and some pretty significant ones. Yeah. They should be a selling team this winter. So the mayor is obviously have, you know, the prospect. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's like. They had the deep conversations on Duran so they know who the twins like. So they already kind of have a jump start on those conversations. So.

Exactly. there's still like a couple of guys left in the bullpen that are kind of interesting Justin Topa obviously yeah Cole Sands is another guy it's kind of interesting so I don't know Cody Funderer Funderberg who's a lofty as well yeah Mariskees used another lefty in the bullpen so I'd be done yeah so so yeah there's there's a lot of options here with the twins I think the Yale Central I know like we didn't talk about a lot from the Tigers and the Royals, but I think the AL Central is going to be one of the trade previous we have

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for $50 in lineups after your first $5 lineup. Price picks, it's good to be right. And you're listening to the Locktime Airs podcast is our AL Central Trade Preview. We've talked about the Tigers, Royals, and Twins. Now let's talk about the Cleveland Guardians. And

we're talking about the Guardians. We have to start with Stephen Kwan. It's been the subject of trade rumors for the last few months dating back to the deadline. Deadline morning, it was reported that the league thought he was going to get traded. And then he wound up

staying put in Cleveland and then they got red hot. They wound up winning the Central and then got eliminated in the wildcard around. So Kwan, I assume those trade talks are going to heat right back up now for him. And he's someone

that, again, well Outfield isn't the biggest need on the Mariners. It is a need that we've talked about. It's a sneaky need for the Marers. Maybe it's not the place that you would imagine that they would add maybe the biggest name that they add all off season, which I think Kwan would have a very good chance of being, but Quan's a fascinating player. He's obviously a fantastic defender.

He's a guy that puts the ball in play a lot. He would be a true leadoff hitter, which I think is another kind of sneaky need for the Marers this winter. So what do you think that would cost? Kwan, I think, will cost you roughly the Randy a Rosarina package. Kwan's a better defender. Randy's a significantly better offensive player.

Juan just had kind of an average offensive season by WRC Plus, but he is an elite defender with a great arm in the corners, probably get away with playing center field and not really skip much of a beat. And he makes a ton of contact. So they're not that similar. at the end of the day. When you look at the production, regardless of how they do it, both of them are about a three-win player, maybe four on the high end.

Quans probably got a little bit more of a floor than Randy because of the defense. But you also got Randy for three playoff runs, and Kwan, whoever gets him is getting Kwan for two playoff runs. So I think the price is going to be roughly the same. Now, people look at Brody Hopkins and Aden Smith, and they're like, well, you know, those guys weren't top 100 guys. And it's like, yeah, but like Hopkins was trending that way. Depending on who you ask. Right. So and by the way, like it's really tough to be like, oh, well, you don't give up top 100 guys. Like the Mariners top 10 prospects are all at least fringe top 100 guys.

So like you're going like there's not really that second class of like, like the second tier for the Mariners is like Teddy McGraw and Tai Pete and yeah, there's a pretty drop off. Yeah. So you're going to have to give up a couple top 100 guys, I would think, but probably like back end of your top 100 guys. St. Jos, the Arroyos, Harry Ford, those are kind of the back end of the top 100 guys. But I think it's going to cost you at least one of them, maybe two. And it might only cost you one because you might be able to do kind of bulk on the back end, which is something Cleveland is known to do. So, yeah, but I think the Randy Rose and Raina Trade is the starting point. All right.

Jose Ramirez. Whatever they want. Pick three prospects. They're yours. Sure. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. That's not hyperbole. Pick any three. Yeah. Yeah. I would do it in a heartbeat. But, yeah, I think he's in Cleveland forever. Yeah.

such a yeah I don't think Kate Smith is something the mirrors would be willing to spend a ton of resources on so that idea is out of the window but there is spoiler alert potentially one of these bullpen arms in our offseason plan

and you'll have to subscribe to the Patreon to find out which one or you know just wait like a week until we announce the plan on here you know probably like two weeks. I don't know. Anyways.

Yeah. Yeah, there are bullpen arms here still, even with Class A, you know, doing his best Eddie Seacott impression. There's still quite a few bullpen arms here that makes sense as well. Hunter Gaddis, Matt Festa. Those are a couple guys that make some sense here. You know, there's some Tim Heron. There's the who's the other lefty?

Now I'm Blanken. Eric Sabrowski. Yes. Thank you. There's some lefties here. There's some righties here. There's a good mix of missing bats. And I know some people like to scoff at Matt Festa,

tie. But look at the numbers. He was basically Hunter Gaddis last year. And I don't think anybody has thrown a fit if the Mariners spent some resources to acquire Hunter Gattis. So maybe don't turn your nose up at Matt Festa if he is available. So yeah, there's some bullpen arms here, but then offensively, it's Kwan.

And I mean, it would be Ramirez, but he's not available. So it's Kwan. Then the rotation, I'm good. What about what about David Frye, who had his face exploded by Terrick Scoobal, unfortunately? And, you know, it was obviously coming off of Tommy John this past year. So he wasn't able to play in the field, but he should be able to this year. at some point,

2026. Yeah, first title player. Kitts lefties pretty well. Not this year. This year was just a bad year for him. Yeah. Kind of on and off the field. Well, I guess the bad stuff happened to him on the field too.

But yeah. Yeah, he's an interesting guy. Sure. Yeah. Dave Frye would be no idea what it would cost. Yeah, he was a 63 WRC plus this year, but 129 and 2024 and obviously had that big postseason moment. for them so um yeah maybe yeah i don't know what it would cost though uh because like

in theory you would be buying low especially with all the injuries on the bad year that he's coming off of 30 years old too yeah but he's also only just now hitting arbitration i don't know yeah i mean it's a little tough to find a spot for him um you know you have kind of at first base and uh dh and then obviously you have you know uh ramirez at third base so you want to stick them in a corner outfield spot well there's only one so long as you have kwan so maybe maybe is he arb eligible uh yeah he just hit arb okay so not too expensive yet but yeah maybe i would watch cleveland for a bullpen arm that's where i would be watching them Quan is is interesting as well.

The Mariners probably should have some interest there to some degree. We talked about this on the Patreon. There's like three guys who are very similar offensive profiles to Kwan. That make a lot of sense for the Mariners. And it feels like the Mariners should go get one of them, which we also did in our offseason plan. Jose Revements. Is this the winner the Mariners finally trade for Luis Robert Colby? No.

The answer is no. The answer is absolutely not. No. Especially not a $20 million. No. God, no. Yeah. I can't believe the White Sox

butchered that as badly as they did, by the way. I mean, you know what? Yes, I can't believe that. Yeah. Actually, I take that back. Yeah. And he wasn't good in the second half either. It's like, he had like,

he had like, he had like, he had like, he had like, he had like, from like the two weeks from the deadline or from the all star break to the deadline. He was like really good.

Yeah. And then like it carried over for like three, days after the deadline people were like oh see the white socks they cut they're smart now they're and then you just cratered again it's like yeah it's never going to happen for the white socks they needed to trade this guy two years ago yeah they screwed up i'm not interested anymore i'll sign them in as a free agent in 2027 for like eight million bucks and give him a shot then yeah so um in the bullpen i know you like jordan leisure yeah also mike vassel mike vassel uh wickleman

and Gonzales is another guy that struck some some dudes out, but he also had walk issues this year. Yeah. So I don't know. There's like, yeah, Brandon Eisert, maybe. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Would I even want to try and give Ben Attendee? Like, even if the White Sox ate, like, almost all that contract, it's like, wouldn't you just roll with like Rayleigh and Robles and feel pretty good about that? So, like, not even that works. And yeah, there's, you're not getting. Shane Smith. Who's the other guy? Davis Martin, like, not getting him.

Yeah, there's a couple of bullpen guys and that's it on this team. You're just better at every single position. And I mean, right now, without Naylor, without, you're still better at every single position than anything that they can offer you. So, yeah. A couple of bullpen guys. Yeah. And like if they trade one of Rayleigh or Canzone, the Mike Talk.

is a guy that, you know, I've liked for a couple of years now. He's just another one of those solid, you know, role players that I just become obsessed with for some reason. Yeah. He's my new Donnie Burrells this year, which means that if the mayor is get him. Yeah, which means that if the mayors get him, get ready for the 40 WRC plus Mike Talkman season. You know, the White Sox really are the team that should sign Jared Kelnick and just give him 600 at bats in right field. Yeah. just be like, see what happens, Jared.

Yeah. But yeah. Talkman, talkman this year, 263, 356, 400, 115 WRC plus a year before that, 110 WRC plus. And the year before that, 10, WRC plus, like just really solid edder. Kind of Seth Smith-like. Which means that he's going to inexplicably fall off a cliff with the marriage's trade for him. It's not inexplicable. You just explained why it would happen.

You like him. You have no eye for talent. So. I have I have powers, bad, terrible, dangerous powers. I mean, you know, you should probably, like, really want the Astros to sign Dillon C's, see if that works. Or if it's only like Mariner related. Sure. But, yeah, there's just not a lot on the White Sox.

I do like leisure. I do like Vassal, but I would like them more as, like, seventh inning guys. Yeah. not I don't want to count them as like oh the mayor's added added a high leverage arm today oh who is it Jordan leisure yeah I would like high leverage yeah I would like for them to be like my like fifth or six option like maybe they grow into like outside of your big four like they could be the fifth guy yeah ideally your sixth guy but like yeah just we have to talk about the white socks so we just gave them four minutes we stretch leisure and vassal into four minutes so I feel pretty good about this. that. Yeah, look at us. We're professionals. We are professionals. That's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Marriss podcast for Colby Pat Nod. I'm Tedding Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L.O underscore Merriners. You can follow me at Tadine Gzalus and Colby at C-Pat 11. That's CPAT 1. We're also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at

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