Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Talking Perfect Games, Luis Castillo and Mariners Playoff Scenarios With Jordan Shusterman!

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

On today's episode of Locked On Mariners, Ty is joined by writer, podcaster and Mariners fan Jordan Shusterman of Céspedes Family BBQ and FOX Sports MLB to talk about Jordan's rooting interests during perfect games, the second-best trade of Jerry Dipoto's tenure in Seattle, playoff scenarios and plenty more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] up to date with all things Mariners at Inside the Mariners - a FanNation website covering the Seattle Mariners on the Sports Illustrated network.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11 | @InsideMarinersFor more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On today's episode of Lockdown Mariners, Jordan Schusterman of Cesspitus family barbecue and Fox Sports MLB joins me to talk all about the M's. Let's get into it. You are Locked on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. What's up, everyone? Welcome to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. It is Tuesday, August 16, 2022. And thank you so much for making Lockdown Mariners your first listen of the day. This show is free. and available on all platforms with new episodes dropping every Monday through Friday. I am your host, Taday Gonzalez. I cover the Mariners over at inside the mariners.com for fanation over on the Sports Illustrated network.

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Jordan Schusterman, one half of the Caspidus Family Barbecue Duo, and you can find his and Jake Mist's work over at Fox Sports MLB. Jordan, thank you for taking the time. How are you? Oh, I am so good. Thank you so much for the invite. I am wearing my Rocky Mountain Vibes hat. Nice. RIP, a minor league baseball team that was killed by the commissioner. But they are an independent league team now.

And even though they were not a Mariners affiliate, since they were the vibes, I figure that we roll with the good vibes only trend. They're a spiritual affiliate. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So, yes, well said. We are talking on Monday just for transparency's sake here. This is not Tuesday, like the day that this is actually going out,

but Monday marks the 10-year anniversary of a little perfect game thrown by one man named Felix Hernandez. and yesterday that was getting a little bit challenged for the last perfect game in MLB history by Drew Rasmussen of the Tampa Bay Rays. Now, of course, as you do anytime any perfect game is thwarted on Twitter, you post a GIF of Felix Hernandez laughing. But because you are so tuned into MLB in general, because of your job over at Fox Sports and everything in general,

we love the game of baseball in general. Do you still find yourself rooting against pitchers that are, you know, tempting fate here that are that are trying to throw the first perfect game since Felix? Or are you just in it for the love of the game? You know, it's cool for them because perfect games are so rare still. Yeah, so Drew Aspison was a great example of like, he is a young pitcher who I enjoy watching. He's a good dude.

I had a good interaction with him when he was at Oregon State and one of our road trips many years ago, like, like watchtrain pitch, but he's not in the category of someone that I, like, like here's the thing we all have to accept, right?

We've made it 10 years, but like we all have to accept that like there will be another perfect game thrown, right? Like we all have to accept that is going to happen at some point. So I've, I've had many thoughts, right? And I remember talking about this on,

on our podcast last year. It's just like, what, who is okay? Who am I going to be okay with throwing it, right? And to me, the two categories are the very best pitchers in baseball, right? So like, or even the Clayton Kershaw level, right? So he's at a few close calls.

And it's like if Kershaw does it, it's hard to be mad. It's like he's one of the best pictures of all time too. Like he is a person that probably deserves to have a perfect game, right? Not because it's, you know, it requires so much luck, right? So if it's him, if it's sure or if it's the gram, I will tip my cap and I will say, yep, that's going to happen because they're one of the best. And then there is admittedly, and this is just me sounding like a dick, there's like the people in baseball who I've been fortunate enough to know personally. And I'm like, yes, I want them because they're my friends.

And so there's those two buckets. Everyone else? No. No, thank you. And so that is kind of how I think about it. And Drew Rasmus said was just like, you know, there are way, lamer ones that I'm, where I'm like actively rooting against it. this one was more of just a like this would be kind of lame and so Jorge Mateo's yeah yes thank you Jorge Mateo based Jorge Mateo for sure all right so let's talk Julio because Julio is great and

Julio makes me happy and Julio makes me smile and I'm sure Julio makes you smile as well and everyone in the Mariners Twitter Spear and if Julio doesn't make you smile I mean you have a cold cold cold heart and there is no other way around it Uh, Julio had obviously a great performance at the Home Run Derby about a month ago. And I'm sure, you know, a lot of, uh, baseball folks in general, you know, we look at the home run derby as this cool event, but it's not like a huge thing for us. It's more so for, for casual fans, for folks that like go into the event, for folks that

like just tune it on ESPN and watching people hit dingers, which is great. A total lot of entertainment there. But for sure, it definitely, if you have success at the Home Run Derby, it does boost your status. It does. It just undoubtedly boosts your status as a player. What do you think that did for Julio and his status as he comes up here as a 21-year-old rookie? Oh. Oh, yeah. I mean, so I was lucky enough to be there, you know, in person, you know, getting to cover the All-Star game and the Homeward Derry for Fox. And I always tell people if you, and this is true for, you know, obviously for Seattle next year, go to the Derby. Don't worry about the All-Star game. Not worth your money in time. If you could be like, I cannot imagine not. being at a derby in person now because it is just so great. And like when you, you, you feel it. And it was the same feeling of when Vlad Jr., who was much more famous, I would say, coming into that derby, even on the national stage, than Julio was even this year, not the

Julio that didn't already have a great first half. But it was the same kind of feeling in 2019 in Cleveland when it was just like, oh my God, it's the Vlad show. I know, same thing. You know, Vlad didn't end up winning, but Vlad very much kind of won that evening, and that's kind of how it felt with Julio. Now, in that case, you know, he lost to Pete. In his case, Julio loses to Juan Soto, who's only two years older than him and is obviously a star in his own right and also, you know, extremely young. And Juan Soto is one of my favorite players, too. But that is what it felt like. And so just the whole all-star experience was very much a like, and I think Larry Stone wrote a couple great pieces about this in the times.

It's just like this is now, like he's not just Seattle's anymore now, right? like he is right obviously we're so lucky that he's on the mariners but like he has ascended to that tier that everybody knows that he's he's one of those guys and like this is what we wanted right we can't be we of course we want to be protective and and be like no like you know we love it more than all you guys do but like it's also amazing to have a seattle mariner be like on that level of uh you know an acunia of lad junior a soto tatis i mean that's you know obviously now a little bit of a different conversation. But yeah, and that's what's awesome about it. Yeah, I think the just his performance in general was, was massive. And to see a mariner on that stage be able to perform in that way,

plus we've had some mariners get into the derby in the past and it's been a not great, not great. Think about Robinson Cadet. You think about Brett Boone and who boy. Yeah, those, those events did not go particularly well for those guys. So it was nice to actually see a mariner get into the derby, do really well, and make a name for himself. I mean, you saw folks, you know, celebrities tweeting about him. You saw guys like Steph Curry tweeting at him and everything around that time. That's cool. It's cool.

He's a Seattle Mariner. People know who he is. It's awesome. Yeah. And also, like, I think him losing is actually best case scenario for next year, you know. Right. Like, I think that, like, sets it up nicer for assuming I would be stunned, you know, help, assuming help, he will not, you know, he'll do it next year.

And then that will be, you know, even better. So, so. So I look forward to for next time. You're listening to Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day. More coming up from my conversation with Jordan and just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Bilt Bar. If you haven't tried Bilt Bar puffs yet, you are depriving yourself of one of life's greatest joys.

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Huge deal. One of the biggest deals at the deadline, if not for a guy named Juan Soto getting traded, probably the biggest deal at the deadline. Now, there's a lot of people that are kind of on the fence or they're on one very extreme end of the fence about what the Mariners did after Aquarian Luis Castillo. And I was one of the people that were kind of critical of what they did after Aquarian Luis Castillo. what they kind of just added around the fringes, didn't think that they added the impact that,

you know, post-Castio deal really kind of asks for. And so I'm curious what your thoughts were on what they did after the Castillo deal. Yeah. So I definitely understood that sentiment, although I think unlike this past off season, and we don't necessarily have to litigate and be like, oh, well, look what's, you know, Seeger and Semyon and story and all these guys have done. but like I really just didn't see that many options out there as to as to what we were talking about, especially because so many of them were first base DH corner types, which the Mariners already have a million of.

And so, yes, would Brandon Drury have been a nice boost that could have been, it felt like a little bit more substantial than a Jake Lamb? Like, like, sure. Like, I do think that that's probably true. But I just didn't see that many guys that I would have been thrilled about. And like it didn't really seem like Wilson Contraer. Paris was ever a part of the mix. And obviously his price turned out to be, you know, really, really, really high. And so while I agree that it's still a little bit frustrating sometimes watching this

offense and we want more, more, more. I, the Castillo thing is so exciting. And I also do think it was a matter of not necessarily optics, but just sequencing, right? You know, if the Castillo thing happens five minutes before the deadline, you know, the vibes are a little bit different, right? But it was because of just the sequence of events and how, you know, the last deadline day went down. This has been true with with depoto in the past and all the trades that he's made.

The timing is sometimes a little bit weird. And so it kind of comes a little bit later, a little bit early. And then you're kind of left wondering and wanting more. And so that's why I do totally get that sentiment. But there wasn't enough out there where I was like, oh, my, more like in the off season, where it was like, oh, you know, say Suzuki or Korea or, you know, story. And it doesn't matter how they've turned out. Right.

That's how we felt at the time. And, you know, they didn't get any of those guys. And so, you know, before the Reds trade, you know, that's worked out in, you know, varying levels of success. But that's why I was not as pressed about that. And Castillo's just like, I mean, I don't know if you want to talk about him separately, but it's really, it's really amazing. And, you know, we're going to watch him tonight. I know this episode's coming on on Tuesday. So, you know, we'll see how he does against the Angels.

But it's, it's really incredible having someone like him, even more than, you know, adding a guy like Robbie Ray. So, yeah, that's kind of how I felt on the deadline. Yeah, it's massive. It's massive because, I mean, you know, you think about the postseason and how pitching has carried this team this far and to be able to add like a legitimate ace who can go toe to toe to tell with anyone. I mean, we saw it the other night against Garrett Cole. Like he's been able to go against Gary Cole twice now for the Mariners and both of his starts in a Mariners uniform and has outduled him. Like even on the night where Garrett Cole was pitching out of his mind, Castillo was just that much better, just that much better. That's insane. That's insane. That's insane to have that in your back pocket right now. Yeah. And so he's going up against Otani tonight. That's a lot of fun.

That's going to be a lot of fun to watch. But yeah, I mean, like, talk about Luis Castillo. Gush about him. I want to hear about it. I want to hear how excited you are about Louis Castillo being a Seattle Mariner. Yeah. And I mean, I was just listening to everyone's favorite podcast, you know, The Wheelhouse. Listen to Jerry DePoto, just blab and blab and blab and blab for, you know, hours on end, which I appreciate.

I mean, that's a whole other discussion of the Jerry Depoto transparency, uh, transparency, uh, conundrum. But, uh, he was talking about how, how, you know, how long they've wanted to get Castillo. Um, and, and I, you know, I connect with that just like he's just been one of, one of my favorite pitchers to watch. And, and as far as fastball dominance from a starter, it's a really short list, um, of guys that have that. Uh, not to mention, you know, the, the, the, the, the pure velocity, right? A lot of the other guys like Garrett Cole. That was, that was what was so fun about watching the Cole Castillo matchup is that Cole, it's really a four seam, you know, up, you know, upper half just like blowing you away. Like it is just, you know, as, as we obviously saw

with Houston and whatnot. Obviously Verlanders, that type too. Called de Grom, right? Like, it is, is just, just riding right past you at 100. Looks like 105. Castillo throwing 97 with the movement that it has, and now he does have a four scene, too, on top of obviously the change-up is amazing. And then the sliders, I think, pretty underrated at this point, even though it's clearly his third best pitch is, it's an amazing, it's an amazing array of weapons. And that kind of velocity, too, is I think something that over the last couple

years with Gilbert and with Kirby, we've started to get used to, right? Because velocity has just not been a thing for the Seattle Mariners rotation, basically besides James Paxton for years. I mean, it just hasn't, it has since Felix lost it. It's just not been a thing. Like, I can't remember many other starters. And now they have four of them, right, that are regularly throwing 95. And I know we're worried about Robbie Ray's velocity, but now that's back to well above average for a left-hander.

And like, but Castillo in particular, it's just a hell of a mix. And it's the kind of thing that pitchers, and this is a broader commentary about, about, you know, the game and why we need to stay on starting pitchers and why it's bad to have relievers coming. they're like pitchers make you want to tune in right and when i see that louis can you know after a loss like sundays right yeah vibes are not great it's like damn that was a you know crappy loss okay it's like oh i turned to monday i'm like oh louis cassill's pitch tomorrow we're we're good like well it's the combination of like confidence and like excitement to watch again and the mariners rotation has just not and we can get back to the perfect game if we want to do that is this like that it was just felix obviously for years right and then there was a little bit of paxton in there right and you

you were kuma was a big part of that occasionally but very they have not had this amount of pitchers that i am excited to watch in so long not to mention obviously all the guys they have coming out of the bullpen so that's what's been so exciting about the season even with all the ups and downs looking back on the mariners rotations devolved did you just besmirch the great name of chris young and kevin milwood i mean hey well to be fair milwood was was was the was the the the the the the the OG uh combined no no yeah yeah yeah so he gave us our first uh five or six can you can you can you can you name every pitcher that was uh that through that yes i don't know if i'm getting in an order but i know that it's prior litkey will helmson league i think or millwood

first um i'm pretty sure i don't i don't think i got that i'm not sure if i got that in the right order. Prior is the one I would often forget. Milwood Furbush prior Lickie, not Likki? Likki did pitch and then league and then Will Hulhmson. So no Wilhelmson. No, Wilhelmson pitch.

Wilhelmson pitch. Furbush prior Likki League and Wilhelmson. I don't know if it was in that order though. I'm just going off a reference. I'm going off a baseball reference. So there you go. There. Wow.

So Furbush and Litkey both pitched in that game. Yes. Yes, they both pitched in that game. So sorry, sorry to besmirch Kevin Millwood, but you get you get you get the point. It's really a a change of a change of pace. And honestly, it's just catching up to the rest of the league, right? Like that's been part of it. Is as velocity has just like burnt like blown up over the last decade. The Mariners have just not been a part of that. And so and so like that's what's been what's been so fun. You know, we still got we still got marco and flex you know chucking in there at 89 but um that's we can see maybe save that for another day yeah yeah let's let's let's talk about that let's just uh let's worry

about that another day let's talk about the good stuff let's talk about the stuff that makes us happy here so uh all right let's delve a little bit more into some uh some mariner's history because uh that obviously went so well last time so let's let's talk about uh the man you and jake call uh old jerry d Jerry Depoto has made a lot of trades over the last seven years quite a few trades quite a few trades

coming out of Seattle over the last seven or so years I think we can all pretty much agree that the best one is the Thai France deal the Andres Munoz deal the Taylor-Termel deal

for Osse Nola but then after that point obviously there's the there's the Kelnick deal and being able to get Knows contract off of the books there's the Hanagher's Gura deal

there's a lot of deals that he's made, a lot of pretty good deals for the Mariners that have helped the Mariners in a multitude of ways. What would you say, though, is the second best trade Jerry DePoto has made as Mariners general manager and president of baseball operations? I love this question so much, and I also hate it because it's so hard. Now, fortunately, as the purveyor of the official Depoto tracker, Google spreadsheet, I have them all in front of me, and so I can reference it very easily. And,

oh, man. I mean, the thing is, like, if it's just pure, like, value, like, what you got for, like, what you gave up instead of just, like, the overwhelming big names, like, there are some smaller additions that were, like, I know this sounds stupid,

but, like, getting Tom Murphy for a minor leagueer that never made it out of A ball. Right. You know, like, those, like, there are a lot of those trades that have been really successful. but again when you make so many of them but again the reverse of that is giving up Chris Taylor right so it's like those have kind of those kind of you know balance out so man in terms of the second best trade I mean I think that the that the Hanager Seguerer one when you consider and look Ctele Marte obviously

has blossomed into an amazing player better better than Hanager and better than Seguer right when he's been healthy right but when you consider that Segura was then part of what got JP, I think that, and obviously what Mitch has been, even with his health concerns, I still think that that is a marriage win, even if it's

pretty even. And, you know, part of that is what the debacks have just been irrelevant. And so, Ctele-Marté, we have a nice, like, seen, and, you know, Walker has kind of has been up and down, but still generally pretty good. So, yeah, I but I still think that that is, again, like I said, like, to be able to

eventually then move Seguera, I think was a really, was a really big one. Yeah. And plus, I mean, Segarra after the, and plus Segarra before that, you know, gave you an all-star season. Like you got really good value out of Segar before even dealing him and getting J.B. Crawford out of that. So yeah, huge. Huge.

And then you got Santana in that deal, which ended up becoming what, Isaiah Campbell, I think. So. Yep. Yep. Pretty good deal. Yeah. And then, I mean, and then, you know, and then obviously, like, we'll be. will be litigating the

Kelmink trade forever but I'm torn on that one because part of me is like getting off Kano is a win no matter what like that is just no matter what happens with Kelmick and how good Edwin Diaz is

like that's but also why do I care about John Stanton's pocket like I don't so it's like it goes both ways like on one hand it's like well getting off of that did give them presumably flexibility even still this year. And like that's the thing, right? Like that contract is still going.

This is the last season of it, right? So like that flexibility for this year and last year. But again, I'm torn because I shouldn't care about flexibility, even though I have to acknowledge that it is within kind of the parameters we're working within. And so if you acknowledge that that is a truth that there is clearly some payroll things that matter, getting off the contract is a big deal. But I don't want to overwrite it too much. So anyway.

For sure. For sure. All right. I like the answer, though. I like that answer. I like the, I like the Hanigran-Sigra deal a lot still, even to this day. I think there's a lot of cool moving pieces to it as well, just a lot of cool things that bridge out from it. Can I give one more just as a joke? How about acquiring Christopher Negrone for cash considerations from the Diamondbacks and then have him become your first base coach? AAA manager, whoever loves. AAA manager, win a championship with the Rainier and then go on to be the first base coach.

Yeah, I think that deal worked out pretty well for the Mariners organization. Exactly. And for him. And for him. Yeah, absolutely. You know, that was a bit of a goofy one. But, you know, I just wanted to mention that one. Got more on the way with Jordan Schusterman in just a moment.

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And, you know, they've been going in and out of wild card one, wild card two, wild card three for the past month or so, pretty much ever since they got back into the conversation. And it seems like, I mean, I honestly think that the Mariners might be the third best team in the American League right now. So, and I think that there's a very, very good shot that they, they end the drought finally this year. So let's go off of that as a couple of Mariners fans here and play some would you rather. Would you rather, Jordan, be guaranteed to see the Mariners clinch their first playoff birth in 20 years at T-Mobile Park or go to the Mariners' first playoff game in 20 years no matter the location. This might be controversial, the first one, clinching the birth. because the excitement here's here's

every year and again I was just tweeting about this earlier like I've only been a Mariners fan for about a decade right like I didn't grow up with this team I picked them because of Felix Fernandez like I didn't have a team growing up Felix was my favorite pitcher I was reading lookout landing I love staying up late to watch the team on LV TV in high school

and like I just fell in even though they sucked ass like I was in I loved it like I'm a Mariners fan great so it's like I don't have the weight of 20 years or all the history like i don't have that right and so that's that perspective at the same time like over the last 10 years when i like i one of my favorite things in baseball is watching teams clenched the postseason right not even winning postseason games like but knowing that you that your season is not going to end whether it's winning a division or even clinching going to the wildcar game like that is something that i think about for the mariners is like making it and like

being able to celebrate and relax if they get into the postseason this year which i also think they if they will. It'll be amazing, right? But it's getting it in. It's going to be fun. As soon as the game starts, it's going to be miserable. It is going to be, when I watch postseason baseball, I'm like, I'm losing my mind over, you know, games in May when they're 20 games under 500. Like this is, it's, it's horrible, right? Like, I want it to happen. But also just the, no matter what happens where, no matter where it happens, like they could just get their kick, right? Like, that's no fun. Of course, being there, of course, oh, I'm at the first Mariners game, postseason game, whatever.

100% would rather be there when I clinch, like, not even close. Yeah. So, yeah. Especially if you're guaranteed, like, going in, like, I know they're going to win this game. They are going to clinch. I am going to see that moment. Yeah. I think that's the answer.

Plus, like, I would be an emotional wreck as well at the start of the game. I mean, because, like, yeah, I've been a Seahawks fan for my entire life as well. Those playoff games, even when they were the best team in the NFL, clearly best team in the NFL, clearly best team in the NFL by miles and miles. And they were like going up against like the 16 Saints in 2013. I was still a nervous wreck. It's still a nervous wreck. So even if the Mariners had it in the bag,

if they were going into that into a playoff game against the Detroit Tigers right now, I'd be a nervous wreck. So yeah, I would absolutely take a guaranteed win and a guaranteed, uh, clenched birth. Even though that, you know,

you and I were talking off air before we, uh, we started this about how, you know, I live in Toronto. And I selfishly am kind of, kind of hoping that maybe Toronto gets the wildcard once so I can go see the Mariners first playoff game of 20 years, but also a part of me is like, I also don't want to do that.

One, because it's going to be very expensive, but two, because I mean, I just, I don't know if I'm going to be able to contain myself, especially in a crowd full of Blue Jays fans. That sounds like a living hell, honestly. Especially if it goes poorly. Right. And I've thought about it. That feels like a like a legitimately traumatizing event for myself. Yeah, well, and there's there's a bunch of different scenarios for where they could be playing, right?

And obviously we should be, you know, getting too far ahead of ourselves here. But, you know, it could be Cleveland, right? And if it's Cleveland, I'm totally going to be trying to get to that. Because, you know, I live in Indiana now. And like, that's, you know, whatever, even Chicago. I mean, I've thought not all about the White Sox, but like, who knows, they're too back, right? It feels like they're, they suck and they're out of it, but they're too back. So there's so many different scenarios, as your point.

but I am, but to the, would you rather question, like, I, I, again, I obviously have other work obligations to cover the 29 other teams, but I really am trying to get out, to consider flying out to Seattle for one of the last home games, whether that's that, that Texas series or that, that Oakland series at the end of the season. Because I just, I mean, I, because for those that are no, I've only been to Seattle once. I've only been one time. It was part of, at, the end of one of our summer road trips that we did way back in 2015. So I got to see two or three games. Sadden Kings Court. This is thankfully the last year Felix was good. And we saw him actually beat the raise, which was really cool. I've told the serve before. But yeah, Austin Jackson,

go ahead, home run on the eighth. Oh, yeah. It was a fantastic game, obviously an amazing memory. But that's, yeah, that's it. That's the only time in Seattle. So I would love to get back there. I thought it. Last year, I almost pulled the trigger in September. I couldn't. And so I'm, I'm scheming. So we'll see. We'll see what happened. Well, Jordan, thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marriars podcast. Kept you on here way longer than I was supposed to. I'm sorry about that. But I do appreciate you coming on. And all right, well, let the folks know. Where can they find you and Jake and all the work you're doing?

Sure. So all of our main writing is on on Fox Sports.com. So that's that's the main gig there. And then, yeah, I mean, we did a college baseball podcast. I know people wondered, oh, you guys haven't done an MLB podcast. We used to do baseball barbecue on the ringer podcast network. That ended before the season. And then we didn't really get to show up and going.

And then we were doing college baseball power for D1 baseball. We covered D3 baseball for fun too. I can't say anything officially, but I just stay tuned. We're working on it. It's not, it is not lost. We are aware that people would like us to have a podcast again, and it is,

we are making progress. So I will leave it at that, and hopefully you will be able to hear. So yeah, just follow us, says with this BBQ on Twitter, and then if you want just my Mariners tweets, J underscore Shusterman underscore, which you can see there on screen.

Well, thank you again to Jordan for join us, and thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown on Mariners podcast today. My name is Tiding Gonzalez. You can follow the show over on Twitter at L0 underscore Mariners. You can follow inside the Mariners at inside Mariners. And you can follow me at Dan Gonzalez's D-A-N-ZL-Z. And you can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode. And thank you again for making us your first listen of the day. Now make your second list in the Lockdown MLB podcast. MLB expert Paul Francis Sullivan brings humor, passion, and unique perspective on every team and the biggest stories around the league. Follow the number one daily leaguewide

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