Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The 5 BIGGEST Seattle Mariners Storylines Heading Into the 2026 Offseason | Top 5 Tuesday

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

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On today's episode of Locked-on Mariners, the top five biggest storylines heading into the offseason for the M's. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, and it's Tuesday, October 28, 2025. This is Tadang Azolus and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Marys podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. this episode is brought to you by game time download the game time app create an account and use the promo code locked on MLB that's LOC KED O NMLB for $20 off your first purchase and as always if you want to hear from me and Colby of more and help support the show we have a Patreon it's called Control the Zone and on there we talk merrish seahawks all that good stuff for more information go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone link in the description and we also just kicked off our off season plan discussions over there on the Patreon we exchanged our individual plans yesterday for our tier two's and above. Now we're going to get to work on creating the master plan,

which we'll present to you guys here on this show in a couple of weeks. But if you want to hear the early discussions of all that, head on over to the Patreon. Check it out. All right. So today we're bringing back a little something we call top five Tuesday, which is something we started last offseason. Maybe you remember it.

But if you don't, or maybe you're new to the channel, basically every or at least most Tuesdays this offseason, we're going to do a top five list covering a variety of mariner's topics. So each week we spend two wheels, the helm, which consists of, for lack of a better term, real or serious meritor's topics, and the Ed Helms, which consists of, you guessed it, not so serious mirrors and baseball topics.

One of us gets helm duty, while the other gets Ed Helms duty, and we switch off week to week. week. This week, Colby is tackling the helm. Now, we spun the wheels off screen yesterday, but we'll spin the wheel on screen typically at the end of Mailbag Monday episodes from here on out. Colby got top five offseason storylines for the Mariners, and I got top five Mariners hats of all time. So there you go. Now, Colby, I think last year I did the top five offseason storyline. So this kind of works out that this time around, you're going to do them. So,

Let's not waste any more time. Let's get into them. What's number five? Yeah. So number five, by the way, guys, some of these are going to run into each other just in terms of, they're very similar, whatever. It is what it is. But number five on my list, I have extensions.

Will the Mariners extend any of their core players this winter? They did it with Cal Raleigh, you know, at spring training, so not exactly in the offseason. But this is a team that typically doesn't approach, you know, extensions. in the wintertime. They typically try to get those done in season. At least that's been their pattern. But the Mariners are coming up on a period where there's going to be some potential transitions

away from guys who are in their core. Obviously, the most notable ones, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby. There's legitimate questions now as to whether or not the Mariners are going to trade one of them in the next calendar year or so. They're legitimate conversations that we're going to have on the show as well. do the Mariners extend one of them and take them off the table? I think they would prefer to extend Logan Gilbert.

Obviously, Logan didn't have an incredible year. He also has a new elbow thing that is going to, you know, maybe muddy the waters a little bit here. But Kirby is also a guy that in theory you would want to extend. I don't know if the Mariners are super, you know, excited about that just because he has three years left. Logan has two years left. So you have more time to get a Kirby extension. done. But Logan is the obvious one. But there's also, you know, do you want to try and extend Miller or Wu before they start to get really expensive in arbitration? Do you want to extend

Matt Brash, try to extend him before he starts to get really expensive in arbitration? There's also guys who are going to be free agents after this next year. Randy Rosarena and J.P. Crawford are two guys who might make some sense to have, you know, extension talks with. I'm not saying it does or it doesn't, but maybe they might want. want to have those conversations now. So it does feel like there are several high profile extension candidates and the idea that they could get multiple of these extensions done in season during 2026 right before a lockout happens seems daunting.

So do they want to try and, you know, skip the line on a couple of these guys? Do they want to try and get something done right away? And so I think, you know, whether or not the Mariners extend one of their players who right now is a part of their core is an interesting thing to track this winter. And also, just to throw this out there, I'm not saying it's likely, but is there a Colt Emerson extension out there, Colt, who's going to have an opportunity to make the opening day roster? And if he signs this extension, does that help his odds of making the opening day roster?

Yeah, unfortunately, yeah, it does. We need to be real about that. And again, it's... He doesn't have to work on his defense in AAA for the first month of the season. Mariners get what they believe will be an incredible bargain. Is it kind of a crappy thing to do? Yes. Does every major league baseball team try to do it?

Yes. Yes. I think Cole DeMerson, maybe Cole Young as well, but I think, you know, more than likely right now, the mayors are going to be focused on these players that are in their core, but they're hurtling towards free agency and the Mariners have to make a decision on these guys. Are they part of this thing going forward or are these guys we're going to trade and kind of like re, you know, reallocate the resources that we get in the trade to go towards our next core group of players? And I think that's something to watch.

And there's, again, there's no shortage of opportunities for the Mariners or options for them to look at when it comes to extending these guys. Yeah. The real interesting thing about this offseason in general, like free agency, specifically with the, the lockout looming next year is like what kind of contracts are these guys want to sign and so going into the extension talk it's like on one hand i could definitely see players feeling like they need to sign now because of just the uncertainty of what things are going to look like post lockout i could also see them feeling like it's most beneficial to them to wait things out and see what you know the baseball world looks like after the lockout so um yeah uh i i i wonder where most players like

land on that topic right now. And, you know, maybe that helps the Mariners out here, potentially. Yeah. Yeah. Number four is pretty simple one. Josh Naylor, Jorge Polanco, E. E. E. E. Hino-Swarres. Who stays?

Who goes? Who do the Mariners feel like they should pay? Who do the Mariners feel like they can replace? And, you know, those are the three guys. Obviously, you know, Ferguson and Garver and there are other free agents that the Mariners could bring back. Those are the big three. And it does feel like at most you're bringing two of those guys back, but more realistically, when you just kind of look at how much of your budget, bringing two of those guys back would cost, you probably need to move on from two. It's just a very

tight window. You have to try and fit if you're going to bring back two of those guys. We know the Mariners want to bring back Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor is also going to have the biggest market of any of those three guys. So it's certainly not a guarantee. But yeah, which one of those three, how many of those three, what do the numbers look like? And what does this, what does bringing back this player or these players, you know, exclude the Mariners from in terms of talks with trades and other free agents and how much money they have to spend going forward? So those three big free agents, three vital players who all had huge moments in the playoffs and all had huge moments down the stretch to help you get to the playoffs, which of the three

or which two of the three. It's certainly not going to be all three. Are they bringing back? And how does that impact the rest of their offseason? Yeah, I mean, like, obviously, Nailor is the priority. I guess I would like to not find this out, but I am curious to see, like, what their pivot plan is if they miss out on Nailor. Or it just gets to a point where they feel we just can't go down that road with them.

Yes. Mariners famously have incredible pivot plans. So, yeah. Yeah, let's not, let's not find out. Yeah. Thankfully, they were able to kind of accidentally land into the Hore-Polanco resurgence year after missing out on Carlos Santana. It was not good process, but the results were great. Yeah, yeah.

Man, I really don't want to think about, like, what this year could have looked like. Had they actually signed Carlos Santana and actually traded Luis Castillo. To a multi-year deal, by the way. which were both very, very possible last winter. Yeah, yikes. All right. We'll get into your top three biggest storyline setting into the offseason for the MERS and just a moment.

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Yeah, number three is, does the offseason trade market rebound? Last year, it was notoriously slow. We had a couple big trades that happened, but really not a lot of teams were selling pieces. It was basically crochet and not a whole lot else was out there. Kyle Tucker ended up getting moved. So there were some big splashes, but kind of the mid-range trade of like, two, three-win players for prospects just didn't really happen at all. And we know the Marys were involved in a lot of talks.

We know that there was a three-team deal out there that the Mariners almost pulled off. We know that there was a lot of talk with the Boston Red Sox about particular players that just didn't, you know, the Domino's didn't fall correctly there. So they had talked to Cleveland about Josh Taylor. Right. So we know that the Mariners had talks, but there were no deals to be made. And, you know, the Mariners kind of blamed the unforeseen slowness of the trade market on their terrible offseason. And if we're going to assume that's true and based on the just lack of volume of trades that we normally see in the offseason, it appears it was, does that rebound this year? Because, look, we all want the Mariners to just spend money to get better and keep prospects and, you know, have this fantasy of all these guys hitting at the same time.

it's not reality. The Mariners have to make trades. They have to. It's in their DNA. They are a draft, develop, and trade team. They've said it millions of times. Well, if you can't trade during one of the two trade acquisition periods that happen in the calendar year, you could be screwed. And so will the trade market rebound this year?

Are the Mariners going to be more aggressive on the trade market? They think they were aggressive last year. And they didn't land anybody. So how aggressive were they really? Now, we know that they got pretty aggressive on a, on a, uh, Yohan Duran trade, uh, that almost went through and, and all that. And we know that, obviously they added rentals at the deadline, but, uh, you know, do the Mariners, are the mariners willing to trade multiple top 100 prospects to land three win players who greatly impact their odds of winning the 2026 world series, which should be the goal. And just in general, does the trade market open up? Are there more teams who are willing to administer? like, look, could we maybe fake this thing and be around 500 in July and sell a few more tickets? Yes. Is that actually what's going to happen?

Is that what's best for us? No. We'll see. It kind of felt like there were more teams that were willing to admit that at the deadline this year. It's kind of like the league getting back to normal where teams are like, we could fake that were pretenders, but we're not. We know it. Is that going to happen this winter? I don't know.

But there certainly are some teams and some players, some good players. who should be made available and that the Mariners should go out and try to get, even if it costs them a couple of really good prospects because that's the game they're in. But if the market doesn't get to that point, and there's just not that run of two, three win players getting dealt for prospects, like there have been in the last 50 off seasons as opposed to what happened last year, the Mariners could be in real trouble unless there is significant money being poured into the front office. Yeah, I don't know if this is part of either your number two or number one storylines,

but I'm really curious to see how maybe the lack of young Major League Ready starting pitching impacts them in trade talks again. Because obviously that was pretty evidently an obstacle in the Duran negotiations. They just didn't have a McAble to offer the twins in that trade. You know, Logan Evans isn't that guy. Like Kate Anderson is still at best half a season away. Sanger, same thing. Ryan Sloan's probably a full season away. So that's not really what we're talking about here again.

Like we're talking about like the Mick Ables who are ready to enter rotation right now and have more upside than, you know, the Logan Evans and the Emerson Hancock's of the world. So how much is that going to impact them? How much is that going to get in the way of them trying to. to pull off some of these trades that they want to pull off. Yeah. All right. So number two.

Yeah. Number two and number one are pretty much connected. Number two is will ownership step up? And number one is how much do they actually care about winning a championship? Because we talked about this, the Mariners cannot just bring back the same group minus Gino Suarez and expect to. be as good as they were at the end of this year. That's just not how this thing works. The Mariners right now, if they had to play a game tomorrow with all their free agents out of

their first baseman would be Luke Grayley, their second baseman would be Cole Young. Their third baseman would be either Ben Williamson or Colt Emerson. That is not acceptable. By the way, it's not acceptable if Josh Naylor is the first basement and you're still running with two relative unknowns at second and third base without making any major additions to the outfield or DH or, you know, to add more bats. But the Mariners are in a position of the front offices where it's like, yeah, ownership gave you, quote unquote, $30 million to spend this winter. But they know that most of that is going to Josh Naylor,

who while having Josh Nader for a full season certainly will make you better than, you know, having him for a third of the season. What you also have to understand is that you get him for a full season. Nailer was a two-win player here in a, and, you know, a, third of a season. Do you really think Josh Naylor is a six-win player when he's only been a three-win player once in his entire career? So it's not like you can just extrapolate that and be like, oh, well, Naylor here for a full year, we're going to win four or five more games just based on that alone. No, no, that's not how that works. Also, by the way, other teams in the American League are going

to get better. Other teams in the American League are going to get healthier. The Houston Astros are not going away. And I think people underestimate just how close the Mariners game to not making the playoffs at all. Like if that three-game series in Houston didn't go the way it did, we're not talking We would have had this conversation, the off-season storyline conversation, three weeks ago, because the mayors would have missed the playoffs. They needed five games to beat a mediocre Detroit Tigers team, right? So it's not like this team was just unstoppable. They won 17 of 18 against really largely trash opponents.

Good on them. They did it. It was awesome. And it does show what the ceiling of that roster was. It was huge. It was massive. They could have won the World Series. Absolutely could have.

But they also could have missed the playoffs. The floor was way low. And when you bring in, you know, when you have limited money and you kind of have to pick and choose where you're going to be weak, you have to end up relying on young players. So if ownership really wants to win the World Series, and ownership really wants to step up, they will give Jerry and Justin enough funds so that they can go out and bring in impact talent from outside the organization without having to trade. away the talent that they have in the organization. What I mean by that is you don't have to trade

Luis Castillo if you don't want to guys because we'll cut the check for $15 million so you can go get a real third baseman instead of hoping Ben Williamson learned how to hit over the winter. So that is the storyline to check here. It is will ownership step up and how committed to this are they actually? Because it's one thing to just like, oh yeah, no, I mean, we'll give you the $30 million to get back to where we were payroll-wise. Do you have 30 million more dollars? The answer is yes. They absolutely have that money. We know they have that money. Are they willing to give it to Jerry? We're going to find out. And if they are, then it'll be the first time in their existence as a mariner ownership that they stepped up and that they forked out the money necessary to win a World Series.

It'll show that they're dead serious about this. And they want to bring a World Title to Seattle. That's what they care about. But right now, it's all just lip service. It's all just, you know, Hey, like, we want to thank you because you made us so much money. Are we going to reinvest it back in the ball club? Not really. I mean, we're going to give enough so it looks like we're doing it. But in reality, no, not really. That is what this offseason is about.

It's what every offseason is about. I hate that every offseason is about this. But it has to be. It has until they are not the biggest roadblock standing in the way of the Mariners, they are. Yeah. And so that is number one and two because it is that important ownership. are the is the number two one and two storyline and how how the front office works within whatever constraints ownership is them is also right there jerry said after the season was over you know

when he did his media appearance the other day that the trade deadline is a big part of their roster uh construction philosophy the problem with that though is you can't rely on the trade deadline one you don't know if you're going to be good enough to justify buying at the deadline. You don't know if like all things are going to go right enough for you to be in that position. But also you don't know who's going to be buying. You don't know who's going to be selling. You don't know who's going to be specifically available on those teams that do decide to sell.

You don't know what the state of the market is going to be. You don't know if the players that are available line up as well with your needs as it did this last time around. Like they were very lucky that Josh Naylor and A. E. You know, he swore as the two biggest bats available just so happened to play a positions that they had great needs at. But there is no guarantee that happens again. So you have to put the work in this off season. You cannot just rely on this idea that, yeah, we're going to, we're going to be fine.

We're going to be competitive enough to get to July. And at that point, we're going to work our magic. Yeah. And you're listening to the Lockdowne Merritt's podcast. So the helm portion of Top 5 Tuesday is over. now it's time to get into the Ed Helms portion of Top 5 Tuesday. So this week, I'm going to be tackling this portion. Next week I'll be doing the Helm side of things,

and Colby will be doing this. I spun the wheel last night and got top five Mariners hats of all time. None of the crazy color variations that you can find on various websites, like Simply Seattle and all that. none of like the 47 hats and anything like that just official hats of the mirrors have worn on the field now that does include like batting practice hats but spoiler alert none of those are on this list uh these are all just game used hats so uh number five let's start with the hat that that colby's wearing the sunday hats

i love these i more so love the uniforms than the hat uh themselves but i really like the idea of taking the modern mariner's logo and then incorporating the classic colors with it. I think it's super dope. It's a really nice hat. Number four, the Navy with the Northwest Green Bill specifically.

It's just classic mariner's look. I love that they're now wearing them with the Navy away jerseys. That's just like the primary road hat now. Super dope. I'm glad that they started doing that this year. It's just a really, really nice hat.

number three this is another situation where I'm more a fan of the the uniforms than the hat itself but the steelheads hat I mean it's just a black hat with a blocky white s but it's still it's classic it's nice it's clean yeah I like it I wish it was more easily available to people and I would love if the Marizino actually wore the whole kit again I had a great opportunity to do that this year but alas it's been three years since they've worn it two years years since the whole fanatics thing yeah but like again like that actually a great thing but also like they went back to the normal jerseys this year like it felt like okay we can do it now right did they even wear the hats this year on june teeth yeah i don't think they did they had to give away for the hats but i don't think they wore them yeah at least last year they wore the the hats with the regular marries uniform which looked weird but i mean at least they they did something but whatever uh number two The City Connect hat. I love this hat. It's great. This is the only Trident hat that makes this list for me. I love the black bill. I love the boldness of the blue and the gold of the Trident.

It's really, really sick. It's my favorite part of the whole kit. It's the only black that needs to be on the City Connect, by the way. White pants. White pants. Yeah. Yeah, you're a big proponent of the white pants. for the city connects.

Batman's utility belt on every single player. What are we doing? Are we going to get new city connects in 2026? I don't know. Like every team's kind of cycling through new ones. I don't know. Like I, I,

you know, you know something I noticed? And maybe it's, maybe it's completely unrelated. But I saw in the background when they were doing like an interview and the clubhouse, what I saw in the background, their name plates are different.

And it says Seattle baseball club and the Pike Place, like, fun. I don't know if maybe that's like a tease for what's to come or if that's just something that they just, they've done with the nameplates. But I'm really worried that like the new city connects are going to be like, oh, look, they have rain drop. Like it looks like they, you're walking through the rain. Yeah. Because Seattle rains a lot is enough and it's like, oh. I hope they know better. I mean, I literally said this to Kevin Martinez when we had them on the show.

I was like, I was so glad that you guys didn't do coffee or rain or Pike Place, but we'll see. I kind of feel like they're going to do Pike Place for the next one. I just, it's like, could you have somebody like from the city of Seattle design to Seattle City Connect? So it's not just like, hey, what are, what are like the big landmarks that we know about Seattle as some, you know, Nike, you know. It's going to be Nirvana with coffee. Lad. It's just going to be some like, yeah, I really am worried that they're like hiring some outside consulting firm to mock these up for them. It's like, can you at least get like, by the way, the correct way to do this is what the Seattle Cracken have done with all their different uniforms is to hire artists from Seattle who represent the group that you're trying to represent and have them designed the logo and the pattern and the color scheme for you.

the crack in uniforms are incredible all of them like they're like they're warm up uniforms that they come out like sometimes and all the like the specialty uniforms they they wear for yeah you know the awareness nights and all that like they're all incredible and they're all designed by people from the area who are representative of the group that the that the crackin are trying to represent you know when they go out there so like the crack and have the correct model on this for these alternate uniforms hopefully uh you know it'd be great of the mayor's fault suit but we'll see uh city there's all this is just a roundabout way of saying there's a way to pay homage to the city to the culture without being too on the nose about it

all right so uh coming in at number one this should come as no surprise if if you know me it's the uh the late 80s early 90s the rookie griffy yes hat yeah yeah the the the gold ass on the blue hat just so classic. I mean, I have here, the hat that I wore yesterday, it's the same S. It's a different version of the hat. Obviously, this is blue, but it's that S on the blue.

It's gold outline. Yeah. It's dope. It's so dope. So like, if the Mariners were to have new uniforms for 2026, I would want them to just be a modern version of that. Yeah. The grays, I and the white too, of the late 80s, early

90s is just it's peak it's peak it's the best you can do um and remember when they wore them in houston like back in 2019 pops so well yeah they look so good yeah fortunately bring them back them it's like hey how about we put hulio we do we do have jp in them it is and it is jp's best photo but like let's put julio in these bad boys let's put cow in these bad boys Kevin buddy we're your consultants right here hit us up But yeah, no, that that's my favorite as well. Just so classic, so clean. I like, you know, I don't like busy designs.

And most baseball hats are pretty basic. You know, like there's not a lot of. Yeah, like the diamond backs, that one hat that they had where it was like red on top. That's like the busiest I've ever seen like an actual official major league baseball hat. Yeah. I mean, like the old like Seattle pilots hat they used to have like the gold leafs on the bill or whatever. it's like okay that's that's fine i like that that's fine i know it's too busy i think what do you think about like the the white panel hats like the blue jays are wearing this postseason

the orioles the bears have one for for batting practice yeah they just that's to me they just look like batting practice hats and i'm just like it feels like that's a different thing like i don't hate them but like now just just wear your your dark blue hats like yeah yeah i didn't really i don't think it works well with the uniforms and again it just feels like that's a pregame hat which fine whatever it's really not a big deal but like that feels like a hat that we should wear not the professionals playing in the game sure sure yeah it was weird when um i think it was bryce to say it like hey let's wear the batting practice hats one game and then they lost and then they never did it again uh just no it looks it looked it's weird when they wear like their regular usual you

uniforms and you become accustomed to like only one hat being worn with those uniforms. Yeah. And then they like it just kind of looks like a travel ball team. And it's like fine, whatever, but I would love to see them where the the Northwest green bill with the white uniforms. So like they used to do back in like the early 2000s, that was sick. That should just be the standard hat. Yeah. Yeah. As much as I like this, but like the Northwest Green bill is just better. It's just better. Yeah, especially for like on the field. Like this is kind of better to just wear casually because there's less like potential like conflicting colors with like an outfit together or whatever.

But like on the field like it's sick. All right. Well, that's going to do it for a show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown Marrars podcast for Colby Pat No. I'm Ted and Gazzalas. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L. O underscore Marrers. You can follow me at Tading Azales and Colby at C-Pat 11.

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