Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The Mariners' Biggest Needs and Concerns w/ Stacy Jo Rost

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Ty and Stacy Jo Rost of 710 Seattle Sports discuss their biggest concerns about the Mariners in the second half, what the team's biggest needs at the deadline are, and more.Check out our Patreon!Follo...w the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com!OpenPhoneStreamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at www.openphone.com/lockedonmlbMonarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's show, Stacey Joe Ross of 710 C.L sports joins me to talk about our biggest concerns we have for the Mariners in the second half. You are locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors. It is Wednesday, July 16th, 2025. This is Tanya Gonzalez for the Lockdown Marys podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.
Starting point is 00:00:33 As always, if you want to hear from me and my co-host, Cole, be even more and help support the show. You can check out our Patreon. All you have to do to check that out, click the link in the description of this episode. Really excited to have Stacey Joe Ross of 710 Seattle Sports on the show today. We talk about our biggest concerns with the mayor is what we want to see them do at the deadline. Cal Raleigh's insane year, all that good stuff. Really fun conversation. So let's get into it. Please welcome for the first time co-host of Bump and Stacey every day from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on 17 Seattle sports Stacy Joe Ross.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Thanks so much for hopping on. Stacey. Appreciate it. Happy to be here. I'm excited. So I invited you to come on the show Thursday night after that terrible loss of the Yankees. And after I tweeted the marriage is solid as a deadline. You didn't agree with that. So we talked about it. My take was a little harsh too, though, where I was like, I fired back quickly where I was like,
Starting point is 00:01:30 this is a loser-ment-jury. It's cool. It's cool. So we talked about it. And honestly, I agree with you. It was a loser mentality. But, you know, we talked about it a little bit both publicly and then privately and then, you know, the mares went on to just have the most perfect last four days, which is great, by the way.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Like, I'd obviously rather be completely wrong and have my favorite baseball team be good than, you know. You should do it every time. Like before this year, oh, yeah. You should be like they're going to get smoked. Oh, I told my co-os Colby. I was like, I'm just going to lean into the bit. This is what's best for the team. And honestly, if they won the World Series, I demand a ring.
Starting point is 00:02:08 You should take credit. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, this is also been kind of well overdue because you and I have been following each other for a while now on social media. I've told you in the past how much I really like what you do. You were a part of our Welcome Back baseball video. We did last opening day. And we recently did a content survey for our listeners where one of the questions we asked was, which Seattle's sports personality would, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:34 should we have on the show? And we got quite a few people who asked for you. So I'm really excited to finally have you on. And yeah. My mom writing in TV. Right. Yeah, just over and over and over again. You also told me that, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:48 you love talking about how this team can make him win a World Series. So, yeah, I love that. So let's just get right into it. I guess I'll just tell you a little bit about why I tweeted that thing about selling, which the overall point, again, was obviously like very extreme, but there are some genuine concerns I have with the current club that I do think we as a fan base and as people covering the team should acknowledge and have a real discussion about.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It really just comes down to, you know, Cal Raleigh is having probably the greatest catcher season of all time. Randy of Rosarana and J.P. Crawford are having some of the best seasons of their respective careers. And, you know, despite all that, the mayors have, for the most part this year, been barely able to keep their heads above water. And to me, it's really because of two, well, three obvious things. One, and this one has been beaten into the ground over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But obviously, the roster build as a whole just wasn't a good enough. But more specifically, you know, Julio hasn't been Julio. And that obviously has also been beaten into the ground over and over again. But it is a big part of this. And the rotation, and really this is the most concerning thing for me, the rotation has been hurt and wildly inconsistent. So to me, if those things mostly stay the same for the rest of the year, and admittedly, you know, those things are good things to kind of bet on turning around.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But if they don't, is this team going to be able to mask those deficiencies enough at the deadline, given how limited the market is going to be? And the rotation piece of this is really what makes me question what the ceiling of this ultimately is, especially when it comes to pitching on the road. So what maybe gives you some pause with this team? And then what makes you optimistic about them in the second half? So at the risk of being overly repetitive about the same things, because I absolutely agree on all three fronts, I'll say two players in particular, or rather, sometimes when you get
Starting point is 00:04:52 into those like black holes of the lineup, I get a little bit nervous. And one of the conversations we started having when it became very clear that Cal was kind of like not turning back was, okay, well, who else are you going to have? Because especially as he enters into this second half, I don't even think they've been truly, like, I don't think we've seen a version where Cal's getting, you know, they're pitching around him. He's having a really hard time. Like, I think it will become more difficult where you're getting maybe a couple pitches a game that are actually quality pitches, if that. And I think a general consensus for folks outside of Seattle and some people in Seattle is like, well, then walk them or pitch around. Like, what are you going to do? Like, what's the worst that could happen?
Starting point is 00:05:30 So Randy taking off is fantastic. Julio having a great series against Detroit is fantastic. But I still look at that roster and go, okay, how much faith do you have in some of the bad iterations we see, particularly if Cal gets an off day, right? And I can leave a series and go, man, Salano really turned a corner or like credit to Palomano. go for a pinch hit home run and still have a lack of faith overall. So I want to supplement that. The second thing is primarily Logan Gilbert. I feel like we keep hearing, hey, you'll see this velocity like tick down over the course of the game. And I'm talking like into the third or whatever. And they don't seem especially concerned. So then I'm like, okay, I guess I shouldn't be. I'm not a pitch
Starting point is 00:06:13 expert. I'll lay off. But my fear with Logan, and I hope that I'm really, really wrong. This is a unfounded fear is that what he's dealing with is just being not at full strength and he won't get there and is a Logan Gilbert who can't become fully healthy who's going to be at 70% who's going to struggle to get deep into games is that good enough and if it's a Logan that actually hits the ground running in the second half and starts to improve great like I feel a lot more confident but those are kind of the things giving me pause is is those pieces in the lineup you know you can't count on and then just Logan's health overall having so many questions about that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah. I mean, we haven't seen him throw a quality starts since opening day. That needs to change. He just needs to be better than what he's been. We've said this over the last couple weeks now. Like just Logan, since he's returned from the IL,
Starting point is 00:07:02 hasn't been good enough. And you need to, you need him to get it going and you need this rotation as a whole to be better specifically on the road, especially right now, you know, if the season ended today, you're going to,
Starting point is 00:07:12 what, Toronto? You're going to be throwing at least, you know, two, or your first two games of the playoffs are going to be on the road. And then if you somehow make it out of the wild card, you're back on the road in the division series for the first two games of that series. So it's like they have to clean it up on the front. And yeah, that's a big part of my concerns is just about like, because again, for me,
Starting point is 00:07:34 like I told you, you know, when we were talking on Thursday, like to me, I don't think the goal should just be make it. And because the rotation has struggled and has been wildly inconsistent, especially on the road. It's a bit different for me this year than it was in 2024 and 2023 where it's just like, okay, just get in with this rotation and see what happens because ultimately pitching dominates in October. But right now I'm just like, I'm not sure if I can trust Logan Gilbert to do what I need him to do in October with the way that he's looking right now. Yeah, I guess I tend to fall still in that camp where you
Starting point is 00:08:10 probably were, which is where you go, just get in. And that's in part because we've just been starved for playoff appearances. And it's in part because personally, I hate losing. So I just have this piece of me that's constantly going to be like, oh, you're going to drag a wildcard team through the playoffs, just do it. Or like a team that probably shouldn't be there that backed in, don't care. I'm always very in favor of that. And for an organization that, you know, prior to 2022, not since I was a child, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:42 appeared in the playoffs at all, I think there are a lot of. people that are just kind of like, I just want to feel it. Like, I just want to see what this is like. I want to do what they can do. I understand the idea of pitching is going to get you through. And, right, it's what worked for the Rangers. That offense is great, but pitching kind of like stepping up to the. It was especially that bullpen like turning it around.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. Exactly. So I can understand being like, that's really how you're going to get through this. But I still want them in the playoffs just no matter what. I just am starved for that kind of appearance. And it's also. It is like a slightly weaker American League. This team is so up and down.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You don't know which version you're going to get. If you get their best version, they are incredibly competitive. More from my conversation with Stacey in just a moment. But first, a reminder to this episode of the Lockdown Marra's podcast is brought to you by Supply House. Get the supplies you need from the site made for the skilled trades. Supply House. Whether you're in plumbing, HVAC, or electrical work, supply house is a reliable way to order products online. They're easy to use.
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Starting point is 00:10:24 They got one of the best hitters, if not the best hitter that moved last year. But they've been, you know, up to this point unwilling to go all in on high profile rentals. And this kind of ties back to another one of my concerns, really, with this team. And, you know, unless there's someone getting traded that none of us expect, high profile rentals are really going to be their only true pass. to making meaningful upgrades on the roster. So I think we're all in agreement on what they should do here. They should be willing to pay the price it'll take to get those guys, especially with how deep the farm system is now,
Starting point is 00:10:56 especially after Sunday and yesterday. But the real question is, do you think they actually will do that? I would normally say no. I think that there is probably more public pressure on Jerry heading into this season. And certainly if they start to really. falter than there has ever been. I think it started with, obviously, that collapse going from that 10-game lead to missing the playoffs and pressure really mounted.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It was already existing from the 54% comment, which he's just never going to run away from. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. And I don't remember there being kind of a groundswell of like really angry, frustrated people. And it's not that people weren't frustrated that they were missing the playoffs, but I just think we consume media differently. and we talk about it differently. So maybe additional pressure that's a roundabout way to say, maybe there's pressure on Jerry that he just hasn't felt over the course of his career until the last couple of seasons that might change some of that behavior.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I hope it does. And it could also be a complete lack of options, right? Like, hey, sorry to break it to you, but choose one. If you aren't going to spend in free agency, if you aren't going to get a rental, what are you going to do, wait until a great young player with club control becomes available for not a time. It's never going to happen. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, it's just you have to do what you have to do. The market is what it is. And right now, you know, again, your farm system is the deepest it's ever been. Right. I mean, you added potentially three, maybe even four new top ten prospects over the weekend. Like, how many good prospects do you really need at the end of the day? So, yeah. So I haven't watched this team for almost 100 games now.
Starting point is 00:12:42 How would you rank their needs at the deadline? what do you want to see them go out and get the most? I love this question because the thing I struggle with most is figuring out where to put starter. So I would normally go corner infielder is number one. In no particular order, it used to be first and third. Now I'm kind of liking the addition of a third baseman. But I mean, I know that that's interchangeable for lots of people. I used to go another bat, bullpen help starter.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And now I think starter needs to be significantly higher on my list. And I just don't know where to put that. Yeah, that's really interesting to me too. Because like we were talking about this on our Patreon show yesterday. It's like, okay, they have like five things. They probably should go out and get. I think it's reasonable to expect that one of those is going to get axed and they're just not going to get it. So let's say that they get four.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And that's what they did last year. They went out and they got four players last year. So to me, I think getting Neiuhanios Juarez would be the most impactful move they could make. That's obviously going to be very difficult to accomplish because a lot of teams need third base help. And he's one of like 10 guys who's like actually producing at a real like traditional third base level. But also you can outbid everyone with how deep your farm system is again. So I just I feel like that's something that they kind of have to get done. and if they don't get Gino, there really isn't another third base.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I guess you could go get Willie Castro from the twins, but he also, like, he's not hitting for the kind of power you want out of third base. It's definitely an upgrade offensively over Ben Williamson, not defensively whatsoever. So, like, that's kind of interesting. So I'm also, like, unsure of, like, where, like, how do I rank third base when it really is just one guy? And it's like, if you don't get that one guy, I'm like, I don't even know if you go out and get a third baseman.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I don't even know if that like I don't I don't think that lines up. So at that point it's kind of like first base and then yeah, the starting pitcher, it's like what kind of waters do they want to swim in with the with the starting pitcher are they actually going to be willing to pay you know, uh, top price for you know, a high profile rental like Zach Gallen.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Cause like I definitely like I'm totally on board with them doing that for a hitter. I don't know about a pitcher and I don't know if they necessarily need that. I just think that they need someone better than Logan Evans and Emerson Hancock. I don't think that necessarily has to be a gallon type. So yeah, I'm really interesting. I think the like the sneaky like really big need that they just have to come away from this deadline with though is a high is another high leverage reliever. Yes. We have Ryan Rowland Smith on every single week and he's on a couple of different shows on 710 and the one consistent thing.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And you know, granted, you got a little bit of bias in there being a bullpen guy. But the one consistent thing is him reeling, hammering home like you need another high leverage arm. I don't want that. We all talk about offense last year. This year we've been a little worried about starters and we're still looking at offense. But like don't let that kind of go to the back of your mind and forget how impactful that can that can be. He's been just hammering that home. A conversation with Stacey continues in just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:17:00 I'm curious your perspective on this because I've been covering the merits to some capacity now for about eight years. and in general, I'm 29. I've been a Barretted fan my whole life. I've never seen anything like what Cal Raleigh is doing this year. And it's gotten to a point now where I'm almost like taking his greatness for granted, you know? Yeah. Like Friday, he hits the two home runs against the Tigers. And I'm just like, yeah, that's just what Cal does.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But it's, it's insane. Like, I never in my life expected to ever see anyone challenge records that Barry Bonds put up, let alone a Seattle mayor. Like I'm literally talking about anyone, especially not a Seattle mayor. So how are you as someone who also talks about this team on a daily basis? How are you processing this season that Cal is putting together in? How special is it for you to be covering something like this? It's absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Like you, I'm from here. I grew up here. And so you notice things. I wrote about this. You notice things that like a Yankees fan isn't going to notice. I notice if a player that I cover or a team I cover is on SportsCenter because it just doesn't happen. It certainly didn't happen when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And so you just kind of, oh, wow, they're talking about Cal Raleigh here. Like, they're talking about Cal Raleigh on Sports Center. Scott, what are you doing? So it's really, really cool to see. I've been doing what you're doing, which is sometimes I get a little bit like in ticket for granted mode where I'll go, man, Cal's got like six hits in July. What is he like, six for 40 or something crazy like that? And they're all home runs.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And then I'll go, oh, my God, what am I even doing? Like, here I am worried about, like, is he in a slump? I'm like, I sound like an idiot. This is the most unreal season we've seen. And I mean, you see, you know it's real and you know that it's crazy when you have fans and opposing teams that are like, so he's juicing, right? Like that has to be it. And what's so cool about his story, not only does he not look like he's juicing. So I think people are just looking at production and assuming.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But he, I feel like you so, so, so rarely see someone. spend a year or two, an offseason or two, trying to tweak something and then having it work. And normally you have to have like a baseline level. You know what I mean? You have a Julio that comes in. And it's like, oh, he went and worked with this hitting coach. And then he tweaked this and he became phenomenal. And yeah, it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But you kind of have that underlying base level of talent. And Cal is a really exceptional story where maybe he had that underlying power. But like, if you don't have hit tools, not a lot of people are going to be betting on you. Because overwhelmingly, that's kind of the case where like that doesn't get. sharpened and that doesn't become such a weapon. So I don't know if it's like human willpower, if it's something that people just didn't see, if it's a season from him that we truly will never see again. And by that, I don't mean like, obviously he'll not hit 38 home runs before the All-Star break next year. But, you know, if he goes down to 34 home runs next year, that's still
Starting point is 00:19:57 a phenomenal year from your catcher. So I think that there is a bit of this that's like a once in a lifetime and maybe once in Cal's lifetime kind of season. That's just exceptionally cool. Though I do think there is a genuine, very sincere, massive step forward that he took as a hitter that will stick around. Like I think he has a different confidence at the plate. You've seen him change his stance and his balance. And I think that's real and not sticking around. Yeah, absolutely. I remember when he was on with Mike and Brock the spring and just hearing him talk about like how, yeah, there's definitely things that I can work on. And I'm like, what are you talking about you're already the best catcher in the league like what are we what are we doing and you know sure enough
Starting point is 00:20:38 well you and he was right right when it comes to offense that's also my like i back to the mariners just being kind of overlooked on the one hand you do it to yourself if you don't make the playoffs regularly people in the bronx aren't going to be paying a ton of attention but i think that's the one thing lost in a lot of the conversation about cal is like this is not a guy that came absolutely out of nowhere please stop looking at average is the only indicator of someone's baseball acumen especially for a catcher. If I hear one more person, be like, oh, he was like a two-thirty hitter. He's been leading all catchers in home runs
Starting point is 00:21:09 for three seasons. Why are you even looking at average? It's like the end-all be all for like, this is how I decided this guy was good before this year. Yeah. And it's like, this year isn't the only time that he's been like breaking records and doing things that no other catcher is done and all this stuff. It's just like, he's just
Starting point is 00:21:25 doing it more. And, uh, you know, to your point earlier, like, yeah, it is pretty surreal like, seeing the attention that he's been getting nationally seeing kind of the star of big dumper grow like today like after the derby for those that are watching we're recording this Tuesday night but like after the derby and seeing just like clips of random news stations across the nation talking about big dumper and all this stuff with Julio it felt natural it felt like that was just going to happen Julio was going to be a star
Starting point is 00:21:57 that's just what it is Cal always kind of felt like our little secret you know he was a cult hero And now we're seeing him blossom into like he's been the face of the all start week. Like he's been there like front and center with Otani and judge and them. And it's like by Cal Raleigh, my big dumper. Like that's crazy. So yeah. Yeah, it's just like it feels different compared to like when Julio blew up. Because like for Julio, it was really that derby in Los Angeles where it just exploded.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You saw like Steph Curry talking about him and all that stuff. But with Cal has just been like, I don't know, the last couple months, really like when Mina Kimes sat him on on ESPN, and then, you know, he's been going around and making the rounds on all these different podcasts and stuff. Like he's really just, he's become like America's catcher, which funny enough. So weird also because I, Shannon Dreher does this weekly show with him. And she's obviously covered his entire career clearly. And I was like, oh, how are those?
Starting point is 00:23:01 conversations and you know how's that going and she's not the only person who said this this is like well known about him but multiple people in us asking about this have also said oh he used to be like painfully shy like he was incredibly quiet hard to get a word out of him and knowing that that's who he was even a few years ago it's very interesting to yeah to see like how well he's adapted to it because he seems very calm under pressure and I think it's I don't know I'm always really fascinated by people who even into their 20s or 30s managed to change big parts of themselves or have these things in them that they can still do. And I think we write, this is going to seem way to met up for everything we're talking about, but it's true. I think we write people off often.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's like, this is who this person is. And it's like people can always learn and adapt and change when they need to. And it's a roundabout way of saying. I think that's what Cal's been doing for the last two seasons at least. It's like, this is someone that was incredibly quiet. Well, now he's talking in front of a camera and it's not that he suddenly became the most extroverted person on the planet it's that he is really calm under pressure and that's what makes for a great athlete and also someone who can do interviews so those skills are transferable yeah we we had wondered like how marketable is cow going to be like if this thing actually really takes off and the answer is very like he's like really like owned it then grown into it and kind of to your point to like i i've
Starting point is 00:24:28 like my favorite thing about it is like how he's kind of come around on the big dumper name in general I'll tell you a story so so I live in Toronto so I go to every every time the mirrors are here I'm there uh 2022 when they were here in the regular season not in the playoffs in the regular season it's like in may I set out in right field before they did the uh the renovation so the bullpen is underneath the right field seats so you can look down into the bullpen and so he's warming up with with Logan And I just so happened to be sitting next to a marathon. And so he wanted Cal to throw him a ball.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I was like, well, hey, Jared Kellanick calls him Big Dumper. This is before like this, like started going around this. This was like, yeah, very, very early on it. I was like, he calls him Big Dumber. I was like, maybe just like yell Big Dumber at him and see what happens. And so he's like, hey, big Dumber. And I remember looking over and seeing Cal just look absolutely horrified. Like, I remember him looking up and be like, and then he went back to catch him.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah. And I still wonder to the state if that was like the first time ever, a fan called him that at a stadium. Man, maybe. Maybe you saw the birth of something. Yeah, for real. You started it. It's your fault. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So I've just, I've loved seeing him kind of come around on it and seeing his mom kind of come around on it still, even though, like, I still think she hates it. But, but, but yeah. It's not the nickname you'd ideally choose for yourself, but it ends up working. Like, it's, it's clever. It's marketable. It's, it's sticking as all nicknames do, good or bad. Like sometimes it's, you know, the nickname chooses you and it just doesn't go anywhere. So my favorite thing about all of this lately low has been seeing Yankees fans crash out about Cal.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Even though they, even though they swear up and down that it shouldn't even be a conversation about who the MVP is this year. Like during the derby, there's people saying MLB is rigging it for Cal. And I even saw someone who said MLB is going to rig the World Series. So it's Raleigh and Otani. And I'm like, I hope so. It'd be the first time ever. I hope they're doing that.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, I think, you know what I think it is is I think people sometimes make up arguments and then fight with those arguments. And I think that's what's happening with a lot of Yankees fans is like they're fighting with a take that literally no one has. No one on this planet is saying Cal is like better than Otani. Cal will absolutely win.
Starting point is 00:26:56 that he's the runaway favorite. Otani, overwhelmed, or excuse me, Judge overwhelmingly is the favorite, not just in Vegas, but for most baseball fans. No one's taking away from his season. He is insanely talented.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I think that the story itself isn't Cal being a runaway favorite. It's Cal entering the conversation despite Aaron Judge doing Barry Bond's things. That's what people are talking about and Yankees fans are just having none of it. To me, it's like Maris fans are over here like yeah Cal is having the greatest catcher season of all
Starting point is 00:27:30 time but judge is probably going to win the MVP and then Yankees fans are like who Cal isn't that good it's like sick yeah sure like that's fine like I'm not arguing with you yeah it's yeah yeah god yeah it's it's it's been hilarious it kind of reminds me of uh astros fans and how much they're like we're not worried about you but also like here's this and this and this oh my favorite are the insults about like why don't you make it to the playoffs and it's like you think that hurts you think mariners fans aren't already born into the darkness what are you talking about like nothing nothing yeah nothing in an opposing team's fan base can say would hurt me like you got to go so deep to hurt a mariner's fan you got to talk about like remember when you use your number three overall pick or like
Starting point is 00:28:15 remember when you took jeff clement over troy to let'sky and i'm like oh yeah you got to you got to do research before you can heard of the same. Well, thank you so much for your time, Stacey. I really appreciate it. It was great to finally get the chance to chat with you. And I would love to do it again sometime. And,
Starting point is 00:28:34 yeah, we'll see what happens with this club here in the next couple of weeks. Yeah, thanks so much for having me on. It was fun. All right. That is going to do it for our show. Thank you again to Stacey Joe Ross for joining me today.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And thank you so much for joining me here on the Locktime Barres podcast. I've been your host, Tadding, Gzalas. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter and L.O. Mariner's. You can follow me at Tidey Gazzalas and my host Colby at CPAT 11. We're also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby and the show at Locked-on Mariners. You can also find us on Instagram at Locked-on Mariners. Have yourself a beautiful baseball day and we'll see you next time. Peace.

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