Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The Mariners Just Need to Get Back to 'Having Fun?'

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

With a 5-0 shutout loss to the Rangers, the Mariners continue to skid towards the postseason. These recent struggles have lowered Ty's expectations for the team once October rolls around, but Colby sa...ys pump the brakes. The duo also offer up their takeaways from Tuesday's loss and react to Scott Servais and Robbie Ray's comments after the game.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/BlueChewTry BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code LOCKEDON at BlueChew.com,-just pay $5 shipping. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Once again, the Mariners magic number went down, but not because of anything they did. Are they two in their head right now? Robbie Ray and Scott's service thinks so. Do we agree? We'll tell you coming up here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. It's Wednesday, September 28th, 2022. This is Tadang Gonzalez and Colby Patnode for the Locked on Mariner's podcast. Thank you so much for making us your first. listen, subscribe, like, and turn on alerts if you're watching on YouTube or subscribe and leave a five-star review on your preferred podcast platform if you like what you hear. And if
Starting point is 00:00:38 you want to hear from us even more, please consider signing up for our Patreon link as well as our social accounts is in the description below. On the show today, we will be giving you our takeaways from last night's 5-0 shutout loss to the Rangers. Gross. And we'll discuss Robbie Ray and
Starting point is 00:00:53 Scott's services comments on the Mariners being two in their heads right now as the losing just continues and continues and continues for this team. But I want to start out by making a couple of statements here, Colby. And a couple of statements I think can both be true. One, the Mariners are going to make the playoffs, but two, they are collapsing. We are seeing the collapse here.
Starting point is 00:01:19 From the injuries to go in three and eight against some of the worst teams in baseball over their last 11 games. I don't think that a collapse necessarily has to end with. with them losing their wild card spot because that's kind of what we've talked about is that it's going to take this ultimate collapse for them to lose this, you know, wonderful, wonderful opportunity that they had put themselves in position to have here. They are incredibly fortunate that the Orioles are not necessarily also collapsing, but they are coming down to Earth. the pitching has been awful for the Orioles. They lost last night in Boston 13 to 9. The offense has been great for them, but they just haven't been able to close the door on anyone.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And now the magic number is to five and the math. I'll keep on saying this is just not in Baltimore's favor whatsoever. But the Mariners for all the injuries that they have sustained, for the struggles that they continue to have on the field, they are collapsing. and they only have nine days now before the postseason begins to fix it. So really for me, I just, it's depressing, quite frankly. There's no other way around it because this team had such a great opportunity at hand here,
Starting point is 00:02:43 but it's lost the wildcard one. It has really no chance at this point to salvage the wildcard one. unless the Blue Jays completely fall apart, which I don't think is going to happen. They're playing pretty great ball right now. And they might have even lost out on the wild card too because they had an opportunity last night to stay in line with the Rays who won an extra innings game with Guardians.
Starting point is 00:03:06 They've had opportunities to leapfrog the rays over the last few days and they just haven't been able to do it. And so it just kind of seems like they're going to end up going into Cleveland against a Guardians team that is well on the rise right now. It's playing its best ball of the season. and those two teams are just kind of going in the opposite direction. And really the point of me saying all this is that I have lost a lot of faith in terms of what they can do in the postseason. You know, I thought that they were well poised.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I said this countless times on the show that I thought they were well poised to go deep into the postseason. Unless, you know, but now for me, unless they completely turn things around here, unless Julio Rodriguez is able to come back and just take over. I think this team might be too and done in the wild card round. How are you feeling right now? Somehow I have to be the optimistic one. That's not a familiar place for me. So you're feeling a little bit better about this, huh?
Starting point is 00:04:08 I'm feeling okay about it. Mostly because I do think that getting Julio back is going to help. I do think that getting Gino, get them back in the flow of things. and it wasn't a particularly good game for him yesterday, but, you know, you take 10 days off in the middle of the season. It takes a couple days to get things going.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Ty Francis started to hit again, so that's really good news. Mitch Hanigar simply cannot hit. Like, not that he's struck. He can't hit right now. He's terrible. He's your worst player right now, which is saying something. So, no, I still feel okay about it. You know, Robbie Ray is kind of the one guy who's been,
Starting point is 00:04:51 pretty good the last two times through the rotation. I'm not too worried about that. I'm not too worried about Luis Castillo. Why would I be? And I just, I feel like Kirby and Gilbert, those things are going to get fixed. They're going to get worked out. And like you said, the team's in such a great shot, in such great shape in terms of standings that without the, you know, the looming wild card one kind of, you know, sitting out there. Like, they're not going to win that. And that's really what this three and eight stretches cost them. it's cost them any shot to guarantee home playoff games, which is a bummer. But I think, you know, that pressure can be lifted now in general. But, you know, we'll talk about the pressure that the team's under because Scott thinks it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And if it is a thing, then that's on Scott. You know, part of Scott's job and part of what we praise Scott's service for us is his culture building and how great he's been to, you know, build this clubhouse and stick together and all that. stuff. Well, if your team's choking down the stretch because of the pressure, you get some of the blame for that. If you get some of the credit for the 14-game win streak and the vibes and all that stuff, like that's part of what Scott does. And by the way, Scott has not been good as a game manager the last 10 days either. A lot of questionable, really weird decisions coming from Scott's service lately. So yeah, it's hard to feel too good about this team right now. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:18 I do think that this isn't something we've never seen. It's not like we've never seen a team really struggle in the last few weeks and then go on a great postseason success. The 2000 New York Yankees went three and 15 in their last 18 games, literally limped into the playoffs, including losing seven in a row. You know, they were 25 games of over 500 on like September 12th,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and they finished with 87 wins. you can see how that's that's not good and the 2000 Yankees you know won the world series so are the Mariners as talented as the 2000 Yankees no of course not but it doesn't take a lot to kind of turn things around and kind of write the ship and it can happen on any given day uh you know i think we'd feel a lot better about this team but they just won two games in a row like at any point uh because they haven't done that since Atlanta The Atlanta Yeah no no Yeah Oh yeah yeah Because they lost the first game in the
Starting point is 00:07:20 Or against Atlanta Yeah Yeah so I won two games in a row a while And so I think that that would tend to To calm us down a bit So yeah again It's not impossible
Starting point is 00:07:31 We've seen teams you know I think One of the Cardinals World Series teams They got in at like 84 and 78 You know kind of walked backwards Into the playoffs And they won the World Series So it's not like
Starting point is 00:07:43 it's impossible for a player to get hot right as the season ends and then it carries over. And the playoffs are weird. You just got to get in and you have a shot. But yeah, it's hard to feel great about it because the Mariners are just, you know, for the last two weeks or so, they've been like the worst team of baseball, one of the worst teams of baseball. They look much like they're much closer to having the number one overall pick than they are to clinching a playoff spot. But, you know, again, math is on their side. So what you're saying is I'm too quick to hit the panic button here.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I don't think you're too quick. Like you can hit the panic button if you want. And not and again, and again, not, you know, just to reiterate, not the panic button on the playoff spot, but there are chances within the postseason. It's just, I just, right now watching this team. And again, you know, like you said,
Starting point is 00:08:31 anything can, you know, things can drastically change in a matter of days when it comes to baseball, especially when it comes to this team of all teams. But I just, you know, I watch this team right now and it's like, okay, even if Julio comes back and his, really good again, which is kind of an if, you know, with a with a back situation.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And we don't know exactly, you know, how well he's going to be when he comes back. But like, even with Julio, who else is going to step up? Who else is going to step up on this offense? Because right now, the pitching is still good, but it's not, you know, shutting teams down. It's not, you know, keeping teams to zero to one. Yeah, zero to one runs. Like, they're not keeping games that close. Like the, the team has to score.
Starting point is 00:09:13 at least a little bit here. The offense has to score a little bit. It needed to score last night, right? And so, you know, like you said, you know, Ty France is starting to hit more. You know, Hanager's had some really awful at bats. He's also, you know, got some singles and stuff here, but that hasn't really doing enough damage.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But who else right now is going to step up? Because, you know, we're going to be talking about Gino Souras in a few minutes here. But that's the thing for me. You know, again, I know, everyone who's listening to this is tired of me saying this, but you can't win these games zero to negative one. You got to be able to score runs,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and you're going to need to be able to score runs in the postseason. Obviously pitching rain supreme, but you're going to need those timely hits, and right now they're just not getting those. They're getting opportunities. They had first and second. I forget which inning it was last night. No one out.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I think they had France and Hanager reach to start that inning off, and they couldn't do anything with it. They have to be able to capitalize on these opportunities. And if they're not able to capitalize on these opportunities against really bad teams and against really bad pitching staffs and against the Texas Rangers on a bullpen day coming off of an off day, like how am I supposed to have faith that they can do that against the guardians in postseason baseball? Ty, can I just ask you, do you even like this team? Do you don't like baseball? Are you the guy that said that to me on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:10:39 Is it coming out now that you were, that was your burner? That was your burner account? No, I'm not. But no, it's just one of those things. Like it's very easy to be down on this baseball team. They've earned that feeling. You know, I hope we're not going to see them start being like, well, we need the fans to show up because they have been there.
Starting point is 00:10:59 You guys haven't earned that, though. Like, you can't have a 20-year playoff drought and then literally start limping into the playoffs and then complain that the energy is not there in the stadium or that, oh, we didn't draw enough. That's on you. That's on you. Because I guarantee you this,
Starting point is 00:11:13 if you had gone eight and three, on the road trip, you would have had 40,000 people there last night. Fact. Back. You would have. So, yeah, this is on you guys a little bit. And, you know, it's funny after they won in Kansas City, we saw some players. I think JP and somebody else, you're like, oh, well, I know on social media, they're really
Starting point is 00:11:29 worried about us. But like, what do they know? And it's, well, guys, don't run away from that now. Don't run away from that attitude now because you haven't earned the, like, benefit of the doubt in terms of, you know, not choking this away. even though you haven't choked anything away, it's still you play for the Mariners, and that's the reputation.
Starting point is 00:11:49 So, yeah, it's just, it's very hard right now to feel good about this team. I get it. But, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:11:56 we're one three game winning streak away from everybody going like, oh my God, yes, we're back. And get this figured out. Nobody wants to play the Mariners, blah,
Starting point is 00:12:06 blah, blah. Oh, I'm going to be like that. By the way, I want to be very clear. I'm going to be that guy too, right? I'm at my most emotional point
Starting point is 00:12:13 in this season. now that I'm definitely going to flip-flop. I'm just going to warn our, I'm going to warn our viewers here, our listeners here, you, Colby, as well as my co-host. I am going to flip-flop. I am going to be emotional here over the next, you know, a couple of weeks or so as this thing concludes. But I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I think it's fair to like, hey, like everybody's going to go through ups and downs over the next few weeks because this is unprecedented territory for most of us for everybody in the social media area. I don't know how to act. I don't know how to act during this time. Let's, you know, everything that gets said over the next, let's just say between now and tell the Mariners make the playoffs. Like anything that is said out of emotion that isn't, obviously there's a line that you can cross. But like, you know, everything that is just like, oh, this team sucks.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh, this team's great. Like all that and everything in between. Like, let's just, you know, give each other a pass on that because, again, the Mariners have never even been in the situation in the social media era of the world. So we're going to see a lot of that on Twitter back and forth. And it just, you know, just give people some passes this time around. But, yeah. All right. Well, while I don't feel good about this team right now.
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Starting point is 00:15:09 So Colby, I don't. want to talk about this too much, but we should talk a little bit about last night's game. Got a couple of takeaways. For me, I want to start with A. E. E. E. E. E. Hennie O'Swarez, we were just talking about him. And of course, first game back, so I'm not going to hold too
Starting point is 00:15:24 much against him. But I was a little concerned with his approach at the plate last night. It really didn't seem like he wanted to swing that bat, did it? I didn't really notice. Really? No. I mean,
Starting point is 00:15:41 I don't know. I think, you know, judging guys the first game or two off of an injury is, especially when you're talking about like wrist, hand, like that's always tough because there's also that mental block, you know, in the back of your head where it's like, okay, if I, I don't swing this right or if I, you know, what, like, what do that pitch comes in it? Like, you know what I mean? There's just like this idea that like, I don't want to re-aggravate this. So you kind of, you kind of perform extra cautiously, right?
Starting point is 00:16:09 I think everybody's done that before. they've had a risk thing and then they've gone golfing and they're like, oh, you know, it's, I'm overcompensating, right? Is it basically the idea and you're playing with a little bit of fear? I just, I don't want to judge Gino based off of that. But yeah, you know, it wasn't quite as aggressive as you would like early encounters. But yeah, I don't, I didn't notice anything that was like worrisome. Well, going off of that, though, it kind of seemed like there were a lot of players on the
Starting point is 00:16:39 marineries who were afraid to swing the bats, including, Mitch Hanaker on that one at bat where he just took like middle middle for some reason. There were a couple times that I saw Mariners hitters just taking middle middle and just not doing anything with it last night. Is this team now at a point where it's just fishing for walks? Like what's going on here? What are you seeing from the Mariners approach at the plate overall? Yeah, it certainly seems like, you know, most of the players are up there.
Starting point is 00:17:12 not really look into what's the word here hit yes that's the word um you know just i i know you know jerry's whole thing is like this team is meant to draw walks and hit home runs and that's how we're going to score runs that's stupid um because what happens when you don't hit home runs you generate traffic and you get nothing to show for it so yeah i don't want to say that team that you know the mares are going up there trying to walk or hit home runs that's that's not exactly But they have kind of made that their identity and kind of their expectation. And there are times where you're just, you know, Mitch, the right side of the infield is wide, left side of the infield is wide open, right side for us.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But you just go ahead and slap that ball, you know, past where the second baseman is standing with a guy on second base. Like, why can't you just do that? And it's one of those things where Mitch is capable of doing that, right? We know Mitch has made the conscious decision. He said as much, you know, in person to try and pull the ball a lot. like he wants to hit for power. Well, Mitch, if you can't hit for power consistently,
Starting point is 00:18:17 you need to hit for average. And Mitch right now is just caught in between. He's like, again, I don't mean to, you know, I don't mean to keep hammering Mitch Hanager, but he's been terrible. Like just God awful this month. Probably the worst hitter in baseball. He needs to make a change.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He needs to make a change. I'd rather have Dylan Moore start every day in right field than Mitch Hanigar. Yeah, me. I'd rather have Dylan Moore than Mitch Hanigar right now. Mitch Hanigur is terrible. he needs to make a change. And I know it's not easy. And I'm not saying he has to make a drastic change,
Starting point is 00:18:46 but he needs to change something because he's just, he's that bad right now. Jesse Winker at times goes up there, and it looks like he's literally only trying to walk. Like his swings are defensive and he's just trying to, you know, let me just get to ball for because that's what I can do. Right. We saw a Thai france.
Starting point is 00:19:01 He was chasing for a while trying to make things happen. And he's rained back on that in his last two weeks. He's sitting like 289 with a 500 slugging. He's been very good lately. So that's good. But yeah. I think a lot of the Mariners hitters, they're kind of caught in between of doing what they normally do
Starting point is 00:19:19 and what they think they need to do to kind of try and single-handedly pull this team out. That's just not how it's going to work. It's not going to work like that. J.P. Crawford doesn't need to get to his pole side more, right? J.P. Crawford has to be the slap hitter that he is. Adam Frazier stinks. They should bench him too.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Thank goodness he had that good month of July, though. You remember how good he was in July? Wow. Didn't need Brandon Drury. Nope. So, yeah, it's just one of those things where, you know, Haggerty slowed down a bit that's to be expected. It's just right now the team is bad.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And it's led by, you know, a group of veterans who are playing poorly. J.P. Crawford is not playing well right now defensively too. I mean, he's made a lot of defensive mistakes. You know, Mitch Anagher who talked about, he's not playing well right now. Cow Raleigh's in a bit of a funk. and that's explainable because of his thumb injury. But you're not getting anything from Kirk Casally who was supposed to be this big, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:19 that's our big trade deadline. Like, ooh, backup catcher, we got so much better. And then they didn't use them. And then when they do use them, he doesn't hit. So yeah, they're in a bad spot right now. I think, I don't know if guys are trying or pressing too hard. I don't know what it is. But something has to change.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I can already see the comments now, so I have to ask you. you're just you're going to have to address this the the the the Mitch Hanager thing because people are going to say in the comments I know what's coming here he's Colby he's five for his last 10 he's literally hitting 500 over his last two games so what is your response to that hitting the ball with authority is he all singles wow yeah cool who he has one he has one double he has one double oh okay yeah he's been he's been very good in his last 10 at bats if you ignore the other 200 he's been great great. Like, get out of here with your nonsense. Mitch Hanigar hitting anywhere in your top four is an abomination, by the way. That should stop immediately. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:21:19 He's facing Martine Perez tonight. I'm sure he'll strike out looking at a pitch right down the middle. I'm sure he'll ground out weekly to the shortstop. And then he'll pop up to like medium deep right field. And people go, oh, he almost got. He just missed that one. And he'll go 0 for 4. And fans will be like, oh, well, I mean, you have to bring him back next year.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Like, it's Mitch Hanneger. Like he's so valuable going O for four and playing subpar defense with no power by the way. Oh, who could have ever, man. It's hard to believe that Mitch Hanigur didn't stay healthy and then didn't produce after missing half the year. We had a good run of optimistic Colby in this episode. I'm not optimistic about Mitch Hanigar at all. It's hard to blame you for that, honestly. he's a scrub
Starting point is 00:22:09 honestly it's not ridiculous to suggest that Marco Gonzalez should be playing right field more often okay all right all right let's let's move on let's move on you guys can thank me later
Starting point is 00:22:23 let's move on here okay so after the game last night you can thank me later Scott service and Robbie Ray had some interesting things to say about the ball club kind of what's going on with this team
Starting point is 00:22:34 let's start with what Scott had to say this comes from Ryan DeVish of the Seattle Times. Scott says, quote, we didn't have a good ball game. There's no way to shirtcoat it. We didn't do anything offensively. We need to kind of take a deep breath here, relax a little bit and try to go out and play a good ball game
Starting point is 00:22:49 and have fun again. Scott also added, because as much as you want to grind through this game and everybody sees how close we are to reach in our goal, you've still got to play the game and you've got to have fun. We're not having a lot of fun right now. Last couple days have been pretty rough. And then Robbie Ray was pretty much asked,
Starting point is 00:23:06 the same thing. What's going on with this team? And Robbie said, quote, I think for me, we've just got to stop looking at the out of town scoreboard. If it was my choice, we turned that thing off because we need to play our brand of baseball. He added, we need to stop worrying about what
Starting point is 00:23:22 other people in the league are doing, what Baltimore is doing, what Tampa is doing, what Toronto is doing, and we need to play Mariners baseball. That should be our focus, our main focus every day. It doesn't matter if Baltimore loses. It doesn't matter if Tampa loses or wins. what are the Mariners doing today?
Starting point is 00:23:37 We're going to win every pitch. And I mean, you know, Robbie is right. At the end of the day, you control your own destiny here. You can clench without Baltimore having to lose a single game the rest of the way. So you don't even have to worry about any of that right now. Just keep on winning. And this team just hasn't. You know, they have this great opportunity at hand with the easiest schedule remaining in baseball.
Starting point is 00:24:03 We've talked about it time and time again. ultimately that hasn't mattered. That's completely irrelevant to the discussion, the strength of schedule. So, you know, this kind of goes back to a conversation that you and I had on a Monday show about this team, you know, pressing a bit, getting too much in their heads because they know that they are so close. They, you know, they're just like us. They know what's going on here. They know about their strength of schedule and all that stuff. They knew what was at stake here and what kind of their path was looking like.
Starting point is 00:24:35 and what kind of opportunity they had presented to themselves and how they're, you know, failing to, you know, follow through on that, to take advantage of that. So do you agree with Scott that, you know, they just got to get back to having fun? Is it that simple? Is there something deeper here? Like, how do the Mariners basically revert back to neutral?
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't know. Because, you know, we thought, you know, hey, well, they'll have a nice easy win on Sunday. Oh, nope. And then, well, they get the off day on Monday and that'll help. No. No, they'll be back at home. You know, they'll be energized by the crap.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Nope. So like everything that Scott has said for the last few days about how they're going to, you know, write the ship and do all this stuff, it hasn't happened at all, hasn't come close. So it's just one of those things where there's probably not an answer and it's probably just going to happen organically and at a random time, you know, if it does happen at all. We probably won't even know when it happens. But something does have to happen. It's, it's, I don't know what Scott, you know, you got to have fun. Well, Scott, getting your teeth kicked in for two straight weeks isn't fun. And that's a really hard thing to do. See it. Well, we have to win. We have to
Starting point is 00:25:56 have fun to win. You know what I mean? So it's one of those things where there's not a lot. Scott's comments are they're basically irrelevant. Like that's a whole lot of word vomit. It's, you know, word pasta that he's thrown at the wall and it means nothing. There's really nothing there from Scott's comments. You know, this is for Robbie. You know, Robbie's one of the few guys who's been in a postseason race recently. Now, I know the Mariners were in it last year.
Starting point is 00:26:25 But were they really? Like, they had to look at the out-of-town scoreboard, right? Because they were trailing and they were trying to catch up. you know, this time around they're not in that situation. Robbie's been in that situation where they've controlled their own destiny and, you know, they've wrote it through to the end. So maybe there's something to that. They're not going to turn off the out-of-town scoreboards.
Starting point is 00:26:44 But I think there is just something about just focus on what you can control. And, you know, you don't worry about what Baltimore is doing. But when you're playing this poorly, then it's kind of like, yeah, we have to root for whoever is playing against Baltimore because we don't trust ourselves to take care of this. And that goes back to the whole thing about them being so fortunate that Baltimore continues to lose. They haven't been able to string together a bunch of wins here. You know, though I have a question about, you know, the out-of-town scoreboard. If you are so hyper-focused on it as a player or as a, you know, collectively as a team, when you see, you know, last night it's two nothing in the, you know, against Texas at the point that Baltimore loses.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You see on the scoreboard, Baltimore has lost. don't you feel like that should more so relax you or do you think that maybe adds more pressure because it's like oh well we now have like this grand opportunity we have to win now because Baltimore lost and we can really you know stretch this thing out here like what is like to me though
Starting point is 00:27:48 like it should like just relax you it's like okay well we can't like lose any ground here if we lose you know so what do we have to lose you know let's just let's just play our game let's just get back to our game here but that didn't really seem to happened last night. Just things continued to snowball for them. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I just mentally like obviously they're not going to turn off the scoreboard but you got to tune that out. You just got to get back to playing your baseball. You got to get back to worrying about what you can control because again, Baltimore, you don't need Baltimore to lose another game for you to clench. You just got to win five more games out of the next nine, which
Starting point is 00:28:25 I know that sounds like an astronomical figure here when talking about this Mariners team and how they're currently plenty. But again, I'm going to cite the schedule. You should be beating these teams. They are still not very good. It's like, you literally only have, you win, uh, you win one game against Texas and you win the next two series. You're in. You only have to win one series to basically clench. I mean, that's really what you're looking at. You win one against Texas. You win one against Oakland. Uh, you win three or four against Detroit. You're in, you know, you win one against Texas, one against Oakland or one against Detroit, two against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:29:00 two against Oakland, right? You split a series, you won a series, and you lost a series. You're in. Like, the path to five is incredibly easy to see. So I don't, I don't know, I do wonder maybe once the number gets to one, like, is there just like, is there like a killer instinct that that sinks in? Is there like, you know, a sigh of relief? I don't know. You know, we talked about this. Could the team, like, would it shock you of the team just, you know, the day after they clinch? they go on a nice little run they went three or four in a row to kind of you know
Starting point is 00:29:33 slide into the playoffs on a bit of a win streak no it wouldn't because I do think I do think ending the drought means something to most of the players in the clubhouse absolutely I think I obviously mean something
Starting point is 00:29:47 the guys like Matt Boyd but I think it does mean something to Mitch Annager and J.P. Crawford and Ty France you know and it doesn't have to like if if you know a little Luis Cassio doesn't care about any in the drought.
Starting point is 00:30:01 He just wants to make the playoffs. That's fine. Like, because it's, it's the same goal, right? It just meets different things to different people. So I'm not sitting here suggesting that,
Starting point is 00:30:09 you know, if Jared Kellanick doesn't care about any of the drought, he just wants to, you know, make the playoff roster. Well, that's fine because if Kellanick plays well enough to make the playoff roster,
Starting point is 00:30:17 it means Seattle made the playoffs. So the goal, they're all pushing forward to the same goal, but I think they're all, I don't think all of them are doing it for the same reason. And so I just wonder if, you know, making the playoffs will cause some of those guys who,
Starting point is 00:30:32 who like want to be, well, they want part of their legacy to be the team that ended the playoff drought in Seattle, like JP, like, like Mitch, you know, I wonder if maybe once that officially happens,
Starting point is 00:30:44 those guys can relax and, and start to produce a little bit because the team needs them. Because, you know, like we said, Ty France is actually playing pretty well right now, offensively at least. You still feel pretty good about Julio whenever you get him back.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Good news there. It sounds like it's going to be the, minimum 10-day stay so that's good um but you need somebody else right you need you need ideally it's Mitch or it's JP or winker like one of those three and really by the way it seems like seems like we got good news on jesse because they sent taylor tremel down when they activated gino instead of iLing uh jesse so maybe it's a bruise but the other thing that you have to keep in mind here is that once once the swelling goes down on his hand because we don't know if that's actually happened yet or not.
Starting point is 00:31:32 That could reveal a fracture. And if they have to IL them, they can just bring Tremel right back. So it doesn't necessarily signify that in the end. But yeah. I don't want to say that the house. I don't want to say that like, I don't want to say that that's good news.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'll just say it's news. Jesse's been terrible. But yeah, you want, you need somebody to step up. and I hope it is, you know, obviously, I kind of have to hope this at this stage because there's no evidence to suggest that anything else is likely. So I just have to hope that when Seattle does clinch,
Starting point is 00:32:09 those guys relax a little bit. You know, they've met their stated goal for the year, and then they can just go out and play with, you don't want to call it house money because, you know, you just don't want to go to the playoffs. You obviously want to win, right? And there's still pressure in the playoffs. But for this team in particular,
Starting point is 00:32:24 making the playoffs, I think has always been the, goal ending the drought right stop the bleeding and then everything you do afterwards is a bonus and then next year is when you kind of start your assent to to the world series titles and whatnot so i hope that's the case you know it's probably wishful thinking just you know hoping and hoping that's something uh well yeah just you know this will be the solution just like scott services doing with this whole like we just have to have fun thing like yeah you just hope that's the right thing to say you hope that's the right attitude and you know but at the end of the day you have to win for it to be right so we'll see how
Starting point is 00:33:00 it goes but uh you know yeah the mariner it's it's hard to be optimistic about the mariners i get that but i'm going to remain uh somewhat optimistic because why not and yeah i mean really like it doesn't change anything at the end of the day whether you're pessimistic or optimistic about this team the situation can't really change the mariners can't really do anything about the situation that they find themselves in right now other than play better baseball as yeah other than hit and just play you know genuinely generally better baseball overall so hopefully that starts tonight but with martin Perez on the bump and john gray scheduled to start tomorrow i i don't know i really don't know but you know maybe they they go up against a
Starting point is 00:33:46 yes right there hit hit underline it underline it 50 billion times circle it square it, triangle it, what have you. Hit the ball, hit the ball, hit the ball. All right. So, yeah, so we'll see how this all goes. And, you know, again, maybe going up against actual good pitchers will reinvigorate this offense because, you know, going up against bad teams and bad pitchers, it typically doesn't go well for the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So maybe the Mariners have the Rangers right. where they want them now. Who knows? I'm coping. I'm coping so hard right now. And that's going to do it for our episode of Lockdown Mariners. Hopefully tomorrow show is. Yeah, let's go socks.
Starting point is 00:34:35 The earliest the Mariners can clutch now is Friday. Still, you know, got to have a lot of stuff that that happens in order for that to go down. I'm still looking at Sunday. I'm still looking at Sunday is possibly the day, maybe Monday. But Sunday, I don't know. I feel pretty good about that. Sunday. I feel pretty good about that happening. I know though, Colby, that you're going on Saturday, so I know you want Saturday, but... Probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Might make it a weekend thing. We'll see. We'll see how goes. Okay. All right. All right. You know, maybe if they clinch by Friday, I don't go at all. Like, who knows? So, yeah, I just, at the very least, you know, I want to go one more time because, you know, tickets to the playoffs are ridiculously expensive. 250 bucks. They are in. They are in. Indeed. The 300 level. Yeah, I was trying to just get tickets for the Yankees' Blue Jays game last night. Since we had the off day, I was going to see if Judge would hit the home run.
Starting point is 00:35:34 He ended up not anyway. But yeah, it was like $70 for like 500 level tickets. And I'm like, I'm good. I'd like to see history. But for that quality of a seat, for that much of a ticket, I'd rather have $70. I'd rather have the $70. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, on that note, hopefully we have a happier episode of Locked-on Mariners tomorrow.
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