Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The Mariners Might Still Be Interested in Triston Casas, But What Will It Take Now?

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can the Mariners get Tristan Kossis without giving up one of their starting pitchers? We'll answer that and more coming up here on mailbag Monday. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Monday, January 6th, 2025.
Starting point is 00:00:26 This is Tiding Gis Ellis and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys Podcasts. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. We'll be opening up the mailbag and answering your Mariners questions. like we do here every Monday. But before that, quick shout out to our title sponsor today. Fanduel from big upsets to game winning drives. The NFL playoffs are better with Fanduel. New customers can bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets guaranteed winner lose.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Visit Fanduel.com to get started. And if you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, check out our Patreon. All you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode. kicking us off here on mailbag Monday is Mariners to the moon who wants to know if Alex Bregman or Nolan Aeronado end up going to Boston. Is there anything other than one of the five starters that the mayors could offer the Red Sox to get Tristan Kossis that the Red Sox would say yes to.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Well, first things first, happy birthday, Mom. Hey, happy birthday, Colby's mom. She actually listens to the show unlike somebody else's mother. My mom listens to the show. How often? I don't know about every day. Daily. Ha.
Starting point is 00:01:35 So if you guys didn't know, this question stems from a report late last night from Chris Cateo, who confirmed an early report or tweet or whatever you want to call it from an account called Cardinals Live, I believe. They're just at Cardinals Live, I think, is their Twitter handle. Basically said that the Red Sox, despite what Craig Breslo, their GM has been saying publicly, are very much shopping Tristan Kossis. And it is more than just, we'll listen if you guys want to. But it's like this is the guy they want to move to make room for other things that they want to do.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Now, we've also heard varying reports about the Mariners' interest level in Kossis from Peter Gammon saying the Mariners just don't like Kosses at all to Ryan Divish and Adam Jude saying, like the Mariners like Koss is fine. Like they like him to this Cardinals Live report. saying that they love him. So where's the truth? Probably somewhere in the middle, blah, blah, blah. But that's why this is being talked about today
Starting point is 00:02:40 is it was first brought up by I think Cardinals Live on Saturday night. And then last night, Cotillo kind of confirms most of what he said. It doesn't specifically say that Seattle loves Casas like Cardinals Live did, but did back up that, yes, the Red Sox are having discussions with other teams about trading Cossus.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And yes, they are still in on Bregman. And yes, they are interested in Aeronado if they don't get Bregman. And it sounds like Aeronado, because the Dodgers probably aren't going to work out. Boston is now the team that he would prefer. So in theory, if they get Bregman or Aeronado, Devers has to move to first. And at that point, Kossis could D.H. but they have Yoshida, who, you know, $17 million to sit on the bench, probably not going to be okay with that. So Kossis is apparently very much out there.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Could the Mariners get him without, I mean, if we assume that the Red Sox get their third baseman, right? And it means Kossis is more available. Could they get him without giving up one of their five starters? Maybe it kind of depends on what the Red Sox. Well, the Red Sox technically don't need a starter at this point now that they've signed Walker Peeler. So right. That gives them six, including Lucas Gialito, who's supposed to be ready for opening day. Gellito said.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yep. Bayo, yeah. Cutter Crawford, blah, blah, blah. So. No, but I mean like behind the five that are in place. Like, I believe Whitlock, Gialito. There might be one other guy that I'm missing. Crystal.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah. Yeah. So could there, is there a move that they would make then at that point without wanting a Mariner's starter, they kind of have to because if they want to move Casas, right, because they don't have room for them, doing it for a starting pitcher doesn't make a lot of sense. So are there guys that they would trade Casas for straight up? I mean, I don't know if they would say yes, either side would. But I do think something like Andres Munoz might make some sense.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Matt Brash might make some sense. Randy or Rosarena might make sense. Apparently the Red Sox would like a right-handed hitter. in their lineup. Now, that's Aeronado and Bregman. So maybe that solves that problem for them. But I believe specifically looking for right-handed outfielders is kind of what they're looking at. So Victor Robles, maybe, I guess. So are there some players that could make sense for the Red Sox and the Mariners to come together on a CASA trade?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Sure. It's going to hurt, you know, and that was going to be true, whatever. Is there a path where there's a prospect-only trade for CASIS? I don't think so. I doubt it. But maybe. we have to remember the Mariners aren't going to be the only team bidding on costs as they haven't been so far but the team right now that is you know kind of we've heard them linked to him so much a lot so right and they still don't so they still haven't you know figured out first base yeah so it makes a lot of sense but I think it's going to be if the trade were to get done I think it'd be munios or brash like maybe you get really lucky and it's like
Starting point is 00:05:55 Santos and a prospect or something like that. Or maybe, you know, they're willing to just use CASUS to upgrade their rotation and they go back and they get the deal that I think the Mariners ultimately wanted to do, which was CASIS and Crawford for Castillo. Maybe that's back on the, or on the table for the first time, but probably not would be my guess. So could they get CASIS without giving up one of their five starters? Yeah, I think they could. Is it likely? I don't know. I don't know how the Red Sox
Starting point is 00:06:26 feel about their bullpen And all that So it's tough to say Yeah, it's hard for me to see And again, it depends on how much The Bears like Kossus. Now Cardinals Live, I believe was the one that said
Starting point is 00:06:36 They love Kossus. Yeah. But other reports we've heard From like Adam Jude and company Have made it sound like They like him. They like him, but they don't love them.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I think they love them. Also, what Alex Spire from the Boston Globe? he said like, oh yeah, they're more so looking at pitching. They don't even, they're now even really talking about CASUS when all this stuff was going on a couple weeks ago. Right. And then we had the thing like,
Starting point is 00:07:04 Casas and Yoshita for Castillo was out there. And it's like, well, the Mariners loved CASUS. They probably would have taken that deal. Yeah. I clearly don't. So again, there's so much smoke and so much misdirection going on here with these two teams in particular. It's really tough to say like what's true, what's not.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think the only thing we can say that's true is that the Mariners have some level of interest in Kosses and the Red Sox have some level of interest in trading Tristan Cosses. And anything more than that, I think we're all just kind of guessing or speculating. Kane wants to know. It would seem Justin Turner is inevitable, which is fine, given the talk of being comfortable with a more slash bliss combo at second base until if when Young is deemed ready that leaves third base is Yaw-Mankata really an option that makes. the team better than 2024 is a Horace Polanco return likely. So Francis Romero reiterated the other day that the mayors are still interested to a certain degree in Yoha Mancata along with the Blue Jays and a couple other teams were mentioned as well.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I can't remember. Cups. Which is which is interesting and could maybe open, you know, up the Niko Horner thing again. so yeah maybe keep an eye on that um y'all in makata we've talked about him we haven't talked about him recently like over the last couple of weeks but we have talked about him quite a bit this off season
Starting point is 00:08:36 macada the first like name linked to the mariners in the entire off season because everyone was been very early yeah this was very early we did um or i did my like top five third base options when we're doing top five Tuesday he was an honorable mention and it was more like well not even really an honorable mention most of the honorable mentions in that episode were just guys that I just
Starting point is 00:08:59 I don't really want or I just didn't really think fit um kata just doesn't move the needle for me like I understand wanting to take the shot on him he was really good in what 2021 I believe it was his last good year but now he's been hurt in each of the last three seasons he's yeah I just
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'm not a huge fan of that. Montcada as your third baseman to me is okay if you make a sizable upgrade at second base and preferably first base as well. So just by way, because if you, if you re-sign Turner and you like acquire Horner, then Moncada at third base is okay. Like don't love it, but it's over. Right. Yeah. The Polanco reunion is not likely. It never is. Just in general. But if I had to choose and The money was, you know, roughly the same between Polanco and Moncada. I would rather just sign back Polo and try him at third base despite the injury that he's coming off of because obviously they're both coming off of injuries. Polo just got hurt in the winter league too.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah. So, I mean, Makata at this point might get a minor league deal. Yeah, I don't know how serious that injury is. Like I just I just remember seeing a couple weeks ago that he was like he had to be helped off of the field or something like that. So like Mankata might only be like a million five, two million with a buttload of incentive. And, you know, Polanco is probably still going to get five, six million at least. But yeah, like if it was between those two and you told me one of those guys is going to be your third basement next year, I would prefer that just run it back with Polanco. But Munkata is fine if they seriously upgrade second base or first base, preferably both, preferably, if not both, preferably second base.
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Starting point is 00:11:30 That's fandul. Make this playoff season unforgettable with Fandul, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL. And you're listening to the Lockdown Marries podcast. It is Mailbag Monday, and we are going to answer this question here from Jaden, who wants to know, would you consider the mayor's offseason semi-salvaged if they leaned further into their pitching instead of getting bats to come to Seattle maybe more arms colby's bullpen from hell which for some reason jaden felt the need to censor approach just broader also that's not actually what we we call it we call it the uh well we do have to censor this for the show yeah the the the heck you
Starting point is 00:12:14 bullpen we'll go with that yeah uh so Helsley, et cetera. I'm not sold, but curious, your thoughts. So on the Roki Sasaki thing, Roki Sasaki is a great pitcher. Like, don't get me wrong. How much better does he actually make you in 2025? Right?
Starting point is 00:12:35 Running a six-man rotation. Like, how much better does Roki Sasaki actually make you better, considering the talent that you already have in your rotation? Like, let's say they don't trade Castillo. It's six-man rotation with Sasaki. Like, how much does that actually move the needs? for the mayor is all you're really doing is taking starts away from Logan gilbert and george currie and you're giving them and you're giving them to another really good pitcher you're
Starting point is 00:12:55 not giving them to a bad pitcher but you're still taking those starts away like is it reasonable to think sasaki is going to be better than Logan gilbert this year i mean it's possible but i wouldn't say that's a fair expectation yeah right so like yeah are you actually better if you have roki sasaki i mean in the long term yes absolutely and it does allow you to eventually trade one of pitchers pretty confidently blah blah blah but for 2025 marginally at best yeah because again it's just relative to the talent that you already have in the rotation and then just going well he's now the sixth man in this rotation and then you're taking starts away from the other guys blah blah blah blah right like I get how that statement might sound crazy on the surface but yeah um bullpen wise though
Starting point is 00:13:41 like yeah if you went hard on the bullpen I mean that would be a significant upgrade like yeah um you know we really really haven't you know we've been so focused on the bats that we've really kind of just glossed over the fact that this bullpen was not good particularly in the second half and like andres monios had to carry a lot over the course of 2024 so if you went out you got a brian hellsley and maybe you got another like legitimately good you know six seventh inning guy it's a pair with you know Colin snider and Troy taylor and you know the rest like hopefully a healthy Santos and eventually a healthy brash Yeah, like that would do wonders for you, frankly.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah. So I think that would absolutely move the needle. Would it salvage the offseason or semi-salvaged the off-season? You still need bats. Right. Like you can't, there's no salvaging an off-season that has you starting Ty Locklear, Ryan Bliss, and Dylan Moore in your infield at the same time. Doesn't matter how good pitching is.
Starting point is 00:14:44 That's not going to work. Yeah. But the simple fact is, is that if the Mariners bullpen was like a top 10 unit last year and everything else was just the same, they got the same offensive production, all that, they would have been in the playoffs last year. And with their pitching, they probably would have done some damage. So like we talked about this at the beginning of the off season. The bullpen is like the biggest need that nobody wants to like think about right now.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And, you know, again, the Mariners are really good at identifying bullpen talent, but they're not infallible. obviously look at last year they had a bottom 10 bullpen in all of baseball so they're really good at it that doesn't mean that they're going to be perfect at it so going out and actually spending resources on guys who have a track record and are likelier than others to repeat their success does make sense because again last year if you had if you had the 2021 bullpen the 22 bullpen the 22 bullpen the 23 bullpen last year you make the playoffs and you very well might win the division still like that's how bad the bullpen was last year and so Munoz can't do it by himself. I know to some degree, you're hoping on Santos being healthy for the entire season. And you're counting, unfortunately, you're counting on Matt Brash to come back at some point and be really good even, not just come back and be healthy. And you're kind of, you know, you're hoping Troy Taylor kind of builds on what he did last year. You're hoping Colin Snyder repeats. There's a lot of hope in that bullpen right now.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So why not go out and get a couple floor guys and the market for the bullpen arms really has. moved. Hoffman's still out there. Scott's still out there. Not that either of those guys are going to be Mariners, but like the top end guy Estevez is still out there. A lot of the top-ish in guys are still out there. They're still available and we're 40 days
Starting point is 00:16:30 away from pitchers and catchers. There's going to be value to be had in the bullpen. So I don't know, it's not salvageable if you're running, if the slate of offensive players you have right now is what you're running out there in March. You didn't salvage anything,
Starting point is 00:16:46 regardless of how good your bullpen is. If you still make the offensive up, maybe it's even just like, we got Turner, we got Iglesias, you know, we got Moncada, and then we went out
Starting point is 00:16:55 and we got, you know, a Helsley type, and then maybe like a, you know, pick a really good middle, six, seventh inning guy,
Starting point is 00:17:02 then yeah, I would say that's salvageable. But, uh, with the way the bats are right now, no, nothing can salvage that except for getting better bats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 So I would say like getting Roki, the value of that would be more so long term than a short term, but, uh, addressing the bullpen in a significant manner, I do think would, would help this team a lot. I would rather they spend the money on really good bullpen arms than they just, you know, go get one like above average hitter. Like if you're telling me it's like Louisa Rise or I can go get like two seventh, eighth inning type bullpen arms for the same amount of money, I'd rather have the bullpen arms. But yeah, it's tough to say anything is salvageable when you're, you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:17:46 your offense looks like it does right now. Max wants to know the mayor is traded for Luis Robert Jr., which I'm down for. How would you use him effectively throughout the season? Maybe if he gets out of Chicago and enjoys playing again, he could go off. Kind of a big problem, right? They have to hope that he feels like playing well. Yeah, it's pretty easy. If you acquire Robert, then essentially Rayleigh is your everyday first baseman, more or less.
Starting point is 00:18:12 and then you just take a Rosarena, Robles, Rodriguez, and Robert, and you just rotate them through. Now, Randy should never play centerfield, although he did a couple times last year, but he never should. But right there, you have three centerfielers, all of them very good centerfielder, by the way, and you just rotate them through. So Randy, I think mostly would play DH.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I think Randy and Robert, in an attempt to keep him healthy, would probably get the most time. at DH, but you could absolutely give Julio a day there and have, you know, Robert Play Center or you can get Robles a day there, have Robert play right, you know, all that stuff. So, you know, with the DH, and even if you, even if you didn't want to use the DH, like you have 162 games in three spots divided by four players, it's like 120 games each. So you can still play all those guys without even utilizing the DH, just on a strict rotation. You can get them, you know, 500 plate appearances without using the DH, but you do have the DH available to you. It's open. So you would
Starting point is 00:19:15 just utilize it. And all four of those guys, assuming they perform, like Robles, we'll see, but all four of those guys, if they all stay healthy and they're all performing, you could easily get all four of them 600 plate appearances. It wouldn't be a challenge at all because you have the DH wide open for you. Yeah. All right, we got a couple more questions to answer in just a moment, but first, a reminder to this episode of the Lockdown-Arens podcast is brought to you by Game Time. So I used to live in New Mexico and down in New Mexico there are zero pro sports teams and a lot of bands and artists I listen to skip going there more often than not. So when I moved to Toronto where there's a baseball team, a basketball team, a hockey team, even a soccer team and there's great music being played every night in the city. I was right in my element.
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Starting point is 00:21:08 It's Mailbag Monday. We've got a couple more questions to go over before we get out of here. Ryan wants to know with the report about the Mariners being aggressive in trade pursuit of Gavin Lux. So what do you think it will cost to acquire him? Yeah. So you got two years of a guy who has been by pretty much every definition, an average everyday big leaguer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Two in season, pretty average slash line. A couple of, you know, sustained runs where he was really good, including just this last year. he had a crazy playoff run with the Dodgers, I believe, in 2022 as well. So, you know, he has had some success, you know, just, you know, in a broad term. He's been a successful big leaguer. He's had moments where he's looked like the former top prospect that he was built to be. He's had moments where he's been really bad and unplayable. He doesn't hit lefties really at all, although he did in 2022.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He was fine. He had a major injury in 2023, which probably impacts. it is 2024 in a way that most people don't want to, you know, don't want to put into their analysis. But he's 27. You get him for a couple years. He's only making, I mean, he's ARB too, but because of the injury, he's only making, I think, three or four million bucks this year.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's what he's projected to make. Yeah, I'll look that up real quick. Yeah, but. 2.7 is what MLB trade rumors has. So you get him for $3 million. Next year, he's probably going to make five or six. So you get him really cheap. So that's all to say.
Starting point is 00:22:43 like he's not going to be crazy expensive, but he's not going to be cheap. I think the cost to acquire Lux would have some sticker shock to a lot of Mariner fans. I think it's probably, and keep in mind, the Dodgers value different players differently. They might not like these guys, but just in general, just like a range. I would say it probably costs you a Harry Ford somewhere in that range and maybe a Trent Thornton, maybe a, you know, maybe a Colin Snyder, but the Dodgers do have 40-man questions as well. So it's possible that they don't want anybody on the 40-man.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So maybe then at that point, it's like, it's, I don't know, Harry, it's Tai-Pete and it's Hunter Cranton and it's, you know, Brock Rodden, right? Yeah, I think this could be a situation where you're actually able to get an everyday big league for pure prospect package. Right. I think it's because of the 40-man issues that the Dodgers have. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned that he's gone on a couple of hot stretches, including this past year. He was really good in the second half.
Starting point is 00:23:58 From July 1st on where I posted these numbers yesterday, he slashed 282, 37469, eight homers, 16 doubles, 24% K rate, 11.8% walk rate. It's 137 WRC plus. So maybe this is just a flash in the pan from Lux Or maybe this is Former top prospect Getting further and further removed from an ACL injury Finally starting to find himself
Starting point is 00:24:25 Now I don't think he's like a 137 WRC plus guy But maybe he is better than being basically just the league average hitter that he's been Right Defensively he should be fine at second base he wasn't I don't think he was particularly great last year but again he's coming off of an ACL injury and I think there was some other damage to the knee that was done so you would expect him to kind of not trust his knee yet and it would take him some time to get going but I do think the price here would sticker shock some people but like if I can get him for a Harry Ford and that might not work
Starting point is 00:25:01 because they have Will Smith they have Dalton rushing maybe they don't think Harry Ford can catch blah blah blah blah but somebody like that right it's a Harry Ford it's a Ty Pete it's It's somebody like that who's not on the 40 man, maybe even Johnny Farmello. It might cost them. But it's going to be something like that. And if the Mariners don't want to do that, I get it. But I think they should consider it because you're getting two years of a young controllable guy or getting two years of a young guy who's not going to make hardly anything
Starting point is 00:25:30 in salary. There's a shot that he still has more in the tank. And I would say a pretty good shot. And ultimately, there is a chance that he becomes a part of. of your core, which for a guy, for example, like Cori Palanco or for a guy like Yohan Makata, there's no shot. That guy is going to be part of your core moving forward. Lux, there might be.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So I think it's going to be a prospect in the Harry Ford range as the headliner. And then I think it's going to cost a little bit extra on top of that. It might not be a guy. It might be a minor leaguer. It might be a open arm. And maybe there's just a, you know, maybe there's an extra guy on the Dodgers 40 man that they would move and they prefer, you know, just like Colin Snyder. and then you get one of the bullpen arms they have on their 40 man to make sure that it's all
Starting point is 00:26:13 blah blah blah so but i do think it's somewhere somewhere in that harry forward range in terms of like prospect ranks i think that is the headliner in a gavin lux trade right and you know before you pooh-poo the idea of gavin lux because yeah he's not exciting at all really you know again he might very well be just a league average bat let me remind you who's played second base for the last few years for the Seattle Marrers. Horace Polanco, 92 WRC Plus, Colton Wong, disaster, Adam Frazier, kind
Starting point is 00:26:44 of mid. So, that has one of the best hits of Marries history. Don't get me wrong, but also overall, kind of mid. So, yeah, if the Marry's just got, you know, 100 WRC Plus out of their second baseman in 2025, I would welcome that with open arms
Starting point is 00:27:00 at this point. Um's to the Moon wants to know if you could build the perfect Mariners pitcher using attributes from past and present pictures such as Randy Johnson's intimidating mound presence. Felix Hernandez's change up, George Kirby's control. What would your ultimate
Starting point is 00:27:16 pitcher look like? Felix Hernandez's slager. Also his change up. Yeah, also his change up. Matt Brash's slider. Over Randy Johnson slider? It's tough. It's tough. I mean, I thought he was talking specifically
Starting point is 00:27:34 starters, but if it's just anything. I mean, technically Brash did start. Like he did make four or five. True. I think the big. Would have to be up there too. I think the big debate here is fastball, right?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Is it Randy's fastball? I was thinking of Brian Woo's. Is it Brian Wu's fastball? Is it Luis Castillo's fastball? Yeah. I mean, really any of the fastball is currently in the Mariners rotation. You kid you not,
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'm working on a video right now and for our other YouTube channel. And it's just Mariner pitchers dominating with fastballs. Like, that's how good they are. Like, I could do a whole video on, just mariner's throwing fastballs by people. I think I'll go, if we're including like relievers and like just anybody who's thrown a pitch for the Mariners,
Starting point is 00:28:19 I think I'll go Brash's curveball, lose fastball, Randy's slider, Felix's change up. I'll take the bulldog nature of Felix and just that swag. I'll take the intimidation factor Randy. that'd be great too.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how many pitches I'm allowed to have, but that's full right there. Logan Gilbert's extension. Yes. George Kirby's command. Randy Johnson's hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah. Felix's tattoos. Sure. This is an interesting looking individual. We need AI to auto-generate this for us so we could throw it up there on the screen right now. Sure. But yeah. So like, you haven't picked a fastball yet.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Who's fastball you going with? I think I'm going, Randy's. I mean, I guess you could cheat and be like Randy's four seamer, Woo's two seamer. Yeah, let's do that. And then it's currently. Honestly, Wu's two seamer is my favorite of his two fastsals. I mean, I know everyone, I know everyone goes with a four seamer with Wu, but I love. I think the four seamer has better results.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But yeah, the two seamer is just by an absurd number. of, you know, looking through these clips to try and find things for the video. And absurd number of front door, like two seamers for strikeouts looking from this mayor's pitching staff. Like, four of the guys can do it. Like Logan Gilbert's like the only guy who can't do it. And Logan's good in other ways. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Logan doesn't need to do that. Are you, would you go, would you go Kirby's command or would you go Wu's command? Because I feel like there's actually a debate there. Like Kirby's done it more. but Wu's command last year was top notch. I would still go with Kirby because Kirby's done it for multiple years where I was like
Starting point is 00:30:16 like historically good. Wu had like a 3.38 walks per night in his first year. And then he was awesome this year. Sub one wasn't it? Yeah, he was basically in Kirby ranch. Yeah. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:30 we go with Kirby still because he's done it for more than one season. Yeah. That was fun. Fun question. Thanks for that one. all right so that's going to do it for us thank you so much for joining us here on the locked on marries podcast for colby pat node i'm tiding gonzalez be sure to give us a follow on twitter at l o underscore merrers you can follow me at taitan gzalus and colby at c pat 11 that's epa tb one one we're also
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