Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The Most Valuable Mariners in the Organization

Episode Date: January 6, 2022

Which Mariners players are the most valuable in the organization? Should J.P. Crawford be extended right now? Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode answer that and more.Be sure to follow or subscri...be to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello and welcome to Locked-on Mariners, your home for Daily Seattle Mariner's News and Analysis. Thank you so much for making us your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all platforms. And today is Wednesday, January 5th, 2022, our second show of 2022. Happy New Year if you have just joined us and missed us on Monday.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I am your host, Tadang Gonzalez, joined as always by my co-host, Colby Patnode. Follow us on Twitter at L-O-U-U-U-N-R-Rerner. You can follow me at Dane Gonzalez, that's D-A-N-Z-L-Z, and Colby at C-P-E-A-T-1. Be sure also check out our Patreon where we talk about the Mariners even more. And also get into some non-baseball talk twice a week. Visit patreon.com forward slash control zone. for more information on that if you are interested.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And on today's episode of Lockdown Mariners, we're answering your remaining questions from this week's mailbag. We don't really have anything better to talk about anyway. And there's some pretty interesting questions that we have left over from Monday's show. So if this is your first time joining us, welcome to the show.
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Starting point is 00:01:34 So let's get into these questions here. Colby, you have one that we'll get to in a few, one that was DM to us on our Control the Zone account. We're going to get to that in this segment. But first, let's start with a kind of an easy one here, kind of a straightforward one here from Aidan, who asks, what minor league baseball teams have you seen? And who is their star player?
Starting point is 00:01:57 For me, I haven't seen a ton of minor league baseball. baseball, but the cool thing about moving to New Mexico, as if there is a cool thing about doing that with that. But when I moved to New Mexico, obviously they have the Albuquerque isotopes there, the Rockies affiliate, who was the Dodgers affiliate at the time that I moved down there. But I got to see them when they were the Rockies affiliate play the Rainiers, the visiting Rainier's. And at the time, the Rainier's had Tyler O'Neill and Leonis Spartan was also sit down at that time and saw him play. and I saw Rydmell Tapia make a pretty good catch for the isotopes and yeah not a lot of
Starting point is 00:02:37 stars in that one to to be fair but yeah Tyler O'Neill I got to see him live once before he was traded for Marco Gonzalez Colby Nice Yeah our minor league team here in town
Starting point is 00:02:53 got taken away a few years ago they're now the Hillsboro hops So but yeah so one of the memories I have is going to our crappy little stadium here to watch the old Yakima Bears face off against the Everett Aqua Sox and newly signed first round pick Mike Zanino was playing yeah for the Aqua Sox whole reason we went down and wouldn't you know it he wasn't catching that night he was deaching and And believe it or not, he walked three times and he flew out deep to center field, like back against the wall caught.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And it's about, you know, 420 at our park, the dead center field with a high wall. Well, if there's anything we all know about Mike Zanino, it's that he absolutely walks a ton. Just terrific plate discipline at Mike Zanino. Noted never strikes out guy. Mike Sennino did walk three times. So that was fun. there's probably some other pretty good players on that team that I'm even forgetting. I've been to a few Rainier's games, not as many as I like to be as I would like to go to.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's been a couple years even before the pandemic kind of made it impossible. But I remember seeing Nick Franklin in Tacoma. I remember I think James Paxson was doing a rehab start or maybe he was just down. Like I said, it's been a while since I've been to a Rainier's game. But I remember I definitely saw James Paxson pitch. But yeah, the minor league baseball memory that stands out most to me is being excited to go to my local ballpark, my local minor league ballpark, one of the last years they were there and get to watch Mariners first round pick Mike Zanino. Because if you guys remember, the farm system around the time Zanino was drafted, it was better than it was at the end of Jack's era, but there really wasn't all that much to get excited about. So, yeah, it's the Mike Sinino thing for me is the one that really stands out.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And that's at the time that was low A ball. So not great competition. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had too many minor league experiences because I just didn't have, you know, a ton of reason to go see the Rockies affiliate and a AAA affiliate. So it's not a whole lot of interest there. But it's a nice ballpark down there, though. One of the better minor league ballparks from everything that I've seen.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So it's a good atmosphere, good environment. It's got some cool stuff, some cool scenery and all that. Got the mountains, the Sandia Mountains in the background and all that stuff. It's a beautiful place. And got to see the Rockies and the Mariners play a couple of spring training games there. Like the first year that we moved down there, saw Sean Figgins, of all people, hit a home run. which never really got to see that happen. So, you know, altitude, obviously ball travels quite a bit, you know, quite a bit differently down there.
Starting point is 00:06:02 But yeah, I had Mike Sweeney just completely ignore 12-year-old me trying to get an autograph. That was fun. Yubaldo Yeminez gave me an autograph, though. And he went on to win the Sion that year. So I would, I'll just say it. I am the reason that Yubalda Yian. and has won the Syang that year. I passed off the magic.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Sure. By the way, also on that Everett Aqua Sox team that I probably saw but didn't pay any attention to back in 2012. Patrick Kiblihan. Oh, yeah. Ketel Marte.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Oh, wow. Nice. Chris Taylor. Ooh. Mike Zanino. some dudes on this team yeah michael guapae you remember him really oh yeah michael guapae yeah uh dominic leone yeah yeah and former highly touted prospect victor sanchise i don't know if you remember him oh yeah yeah he unfortunately passed away i believe so yes he uh yeah he had a pretty good year for them that year so 17 years old at the time so yeah there were actually some uh some ballers on
Starting point is 00:07:18 that team and i just mostly only wanted to seem like sinino so uh just goes to show you when you go to minor league baseball games you never know so pay attention some all stars on that team some future all stars on that team senino taylor marty yeah yeah two four players six uh six big leaguers on that roster out of that looks like 42 players play for them throughout the year so uh probably 27, 2627 on that team and six of them ended up being big leaguers. And three of them ended up being every day, all-star big leaguers. So you never know. Oh, hey, Tyler Marlett was on that team for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 You remember him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember him. Yeah, anyways. So, yeah, so what's the question that we got from our listener in the CTZ DMs? Yeah, so. Yeah, read that one off. Yeah, this question.
Starting point is 00:08:18 comes from Donald, I won't say his last name. He wants us to put together the best potential Mariners offensive lineup using only free agents, no trades allowed. And he wants to know basically is could they get to, well, he uses the phrase win at all. So basically, can they win the World Series if they follow this? best possible lineup type of thing so uh tie to answer that second part uh trades included trades not included doesn't matter nothing the mariners could do in 2022 really is going to lead to a world series sorry wow tie saying the mariners are going to have the number one overall pick next year it's messed up dude all the optimism and that's where you go mm-hmm yep um clearly you know me uh you know
Starting point is 00:09:15 just raining on the parade of the 2022 Mariners, but as usual, they're going to be good. You know, they're going to be competitive. Probably going to be a playoff team in my eyes. I think that, you know, depending on what else they do the rest of the way, they're going to be a playoff team. But I just, I don't think that
Starting point is 00:09:31 anything they can do this year. It's going to lead to a World Series. But yeah, best possible lineup. Just using free agents. I'm signing Michael Comforto. I'm signing Trevor Story. probably sign in. I mean, if we're keeping things like fairly realistic here,
Starting point is 00:09:51 probably can't sign, you know, Chris Bryan as well. So I'm probably signing like Jonathan VR to play third base. If I can't trade for Matt Chapman. So best lineup. Let's say Adam Frazier hitting one, Ty France, hitting two, Story three, Hanager four, Confort O'5.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't know, help me out here. What do you think? JP 6? I kind of want JP hitting 9. All right, so then it'd be Tom Murphy slash Luis Turenz. Kelnick. Sure. And then like VR hitting 8th.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, VR JP. Yeah, I like that. Something like that, yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. It's a good lineup. Yeah, that'd be a, I would, that'd be a top five American League lineup.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And all this, I think they're, I think that would certainly get them closer to winning the World Series. But ultimately, you know, the Mariners are going to win the World Series in 2022. And I don't think they will, but it's,
Starting point is 00:11:05 it's theoretically possible. They're going to need guys like Julio to come up and be Robles of the Stars. Yeah, they're going to need Logan Gilbert to come, you know, not only repeat what he did last year, but, you know, compete for Cy Young votes along with Robbie Ray. So it's nothing that's going to come from outside the organization right now is going to make them a World Series contender. Now, that can change in July when we factor in trades in the middle of the season.
Starting point is 00:11:34 But as of right now, if they had Story and Conforto and VR, for example, I think they're officially, I think the Astros are nervous. about their lead in the division and I think it's entirely plausible that Seattle could win the division but they're still going to need help at the deadline and again they're going to need somebody to just pretty much explode in a way that we don't really see coming
Starting point is 00:12:01 that's how they're going to do it so is it possible? Yeah it's possible is it likely new but it's definitely non-zero yeah yeah I think I I think I should reframe what I said.
Starting point is 00:12:19 There's nothing that they can do this off season. That's going to put them in line for the World Series. Now, like you said, if they get hot to the point where they're looking to really add at the deadline and say they get like a Jose Ramirez or what have you, then we can start talking about that. Sure. Especially if guys start to pop and whatnot. Like if Julio comes up and he is, you know, Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto or whatever. say Jared Kelnick starts to figure things out. He's an all-star or something.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah. But these things are just so like astronomically like improbable, you know, to like firmly say like, yeah, I can count on that. Yeah, I just, I can't definitively or I can't confidently rather say they're going to be in line to
Starting point is 00:13:07 push for the World Series. But hey, who knows? Who knows? We were very wrong about the team last year. So anything is possible. Don't think many of us took the Braves to win the World Series after Acuna got hurt last year either. That's true. That is true. That's a very good point. Maybe the Mariners find their Jorge Salar and they find their Eddie Rosario and they find their Adam Duval. Put yourself in position to win the World Series by making the playoffs and
Starting point is 00:13:31 literally anything can happen. So you got to get there first. And I think the lineup that they did that, I think that lineup would be, I would feel very comfortable saying they're a playoff team. And at that point, World Series really isn't that big of a reach. So we'll see. All right. So we will be looking at more of your questions in just
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Starting point is 00:15:27 from this week's mailbag, starting with Jordan Levitt at Mormon Pizza Man, who asked if he had to trade three bullpen pieces off the roster, who would they be and why so i think the one that we should start with here colby is drew second rider right i think that's the guy that we had heard for a while that they may trade him this uh this off season doesn't seem like that's going to be the case now though just with the way that the off season is gone we haven't heard him involved in any trade discussions obviously that could change once the lockout is over but he seems kind of like the one guy that they could take advantage of his
Starting point is 00:16:06 trade value and you know because i mean he was a top 30 reliever in baseball last year pretty much out of nowhere and he's frankly not as crucial to your bullpen as as probably you know paul seawald or casey sadler is so uh is is second rider on that list for you as well probably because it's it's really interesting because there's a couple ways you go with this like are you trading them for just the who you think you get the most for because that's seawall second rider and probably Castillo. But then you have to fill. Maybe but probably not.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You know, Sadler just doesn't have the stuff that the other three do and stuff is, you know, sexy in the bullpen. But obviously Sadler's season speaks for itself. But yeah, but then, you know, the Mariners are looking to compete in 2022. They have to go get three good relievers now. And that's, you know, so do you just trade your three. worst guys well you could but i mean you're not going to get anything for them like so i it's it's kind of a weird like i might be able to get like a back in 26 man for eric swanson right like i could probably get like maybe swanson would be one of my three yeah yeah i swanson would be one of my
Starting point is 00:17:25 three um and then probably one at the top tier guys so uh stack and rider castillo um seawald if somebody's going to blow me away um i don't think seawald's going to repeat what he did last year really by any stretch but I'm willing to bet I mean we saw signs of regression towards the end of the season right and that that might have been from overuse he he threw 60 some odd games in five months instead of six months so because he didn't make his you know he didn't start pitching in games until may right so yeah um so I'd probably do second riders uh second rider swanson and then anthony machevitz just so I can get him out of my bullpen
Starting point is 00:18:06 just so Scott will stop using him in high leverage situations right yeah I agree with that loss I'd say it's stick arounder Swanson and Tony's sandwiches there you go so yeah all right thanks for the question Jordan
Starting point is 00:18:26 let's uh let's move on here to uh Alex Ledbetter at Alex Ledbetter 15 if you were in charge and the decision had to be made today. Would you extend J.P. Crawford? Yes, but not for longer than like two years. Two additional years.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I just don't. Here's the thing. Even though that he was able to sustain offensive success and some of the changes that he made in his played approach, you know, stuck around. they were you know he he stayed consistent in his production for the most part you know more often than not he was he was productive offensively last year even then i'm still a little concern because even even with some of the changes that he made to a swing it still looks really weird
Starting point is 00:19:24 and janky and i just i don't know if that's if that's going to be conducive to long-term success um that's why you know i i'm pretty like firm about having them hit and this year because like hey if he continues where he was last year from last year then you have a great number nine hitter
Starting point is 00:19:48 and if not then you have him in a spot where he's hurting you the least where you can still take advantage of his glove and everything and he'll still give you some production offensively but just not you know what he was giving you last year
Starting point is 00:20:02 so that's a little bit of a concern obviously defensively he's fantastic. You know, one of the best defensive player, you know, short stops. Overall defensive players in all baseball, honestly. But yeah, there are some concerns that make me hesitant about extending him.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But overall, I would do it just not for a very long-term extension a couple years at most. I probably wouldn't. Just because I don't need to. right JP's only going to make $5 million this year
Starting point is 00:20:39 and then I still have them for two more years after this year seems like something you probably want to do next off season because here's like you said
Starting point is 00:20:48 I don't think there's much of a risk that JP like finds another level offensively and now you're going to be looking back saying oh man I wish we would have gotten him
Starting point is 00:20:57 when we could have gotten him you know cheaper for $10 million dollars a year 12 million dollars a year instead of now I have to give them $16 million a year and
Starting point is 00:21:06 if that does happen, that's great. Like, awesome. Like, JP Crawford's an offensive threat now. That's, that's amazing. Yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:21:13 if he finds, like power all of a sudden, you know, yeah, like if he gets back to that, like, 15 home run power that, that he kind of had at the,
Starting point is 00:21:22 at the start of his career, like, you know, what it was expected of him, then, yeah, sweet. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'll, I'll take that all day. And I will happily pay the extra money for that. Yeah. If JP could hit 270 and Bob, like, 15 to 20 home runs and keep his on base percentage where it's at. Like, yeah, I'll happily put that guy $16 million.
Starting point is 00:21:43 But without power, it's just there's really not a reason to do it. I don't have to do it yet. And I'm going to wait here. We can do something to power right now. No, it's, no, it's very contact heavy. So, and I don't know if I want to messing around with that too much. So, yeah, I would just, I would let it play out this year, see how it goes. And then probably talk to him, uh, this.
Starting point is 00:22:05 off season, particularly if you're riding a wave of momentum. You make the playoffs. Maybe you push your way to the ALCS. JP's probably not going anyway in terms of leadership. It seems like he's, you know, cemented his leadership role on this club. So, yeah, it's, I'm not in any danger of losing him. So, no, I have three full years before I have to worry about free agency.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So I'm probably not interested in doing it right now. I have a lot of other things. I'm prioritizing over JP. and then maybe I'll get to JP in the middle of the year or sometime next winter. So I would say no right now. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I agree with them. I understand it. Again, if you can get a deal right now, sure, just again, just not something that's super long term. If he wants 5 and 40, like, sure. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:23:00 That's what I was thinking pretty much. It's like, if you can do that, if he's like willing to take that if he and his camp come to you and they say yeah we would take this then sure um but i don't think there's any way there's any reason really for you to go out of your way and give him anything longer term than that um you shouldn't right because there's still there's still so much uncertainty i need to see another year of him playing the way that he did last year yeah and you know again there were also some hiccups along the way last year as well so you know it wasn't just a completely, you know, perfect, consistent year firm at the plate.
Starting point is 00:23:38 There's some bumps in the road. And, you know, I want to see if he's able to sustain that, you know, sustain the success that he found. And be able to, you know, do that for most of 2022. Because obviously he's going to hit some bumps on the road. Again, every player does. But, you know, is the good going to outweigh the bad? That's really my key thing this year. So I need to see another year of that.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yep. I think that's fair. Yep. All right. So we have one more question remaining. It's kind of a biggie. So we will be getting to that in just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners.
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Starting point is 00:25:24 So our top 10 most valuable Mariners players, assets, what have you? You want to start, Colby? So, yeah, just to clarify here, trade assets includes everybody on the 40 man, everybody, like what? He says organization. So anyone that's in the organization. Okay. Any prospect, any player, anyone who is in the organization that can be traded, who has the most value. Number one is
Starting point is 00:25:59 Julio Rodriguez. I feel pretty Yeah, I think it's Julio still. It could be Logan Gilbert though. That's what I was, yeah, that was my hesitation is it could be Gilbert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, he's definitely going to have a ton of interest. I'm still going to stick with Julio, but Gilbert's right there because this is a guy who's still has six years of club control left and he's already proven that he's a you know, at least a number four starter. and he doesn't even really have his breaking stuff figured out yet. So I would probably say Julio won, Gilbert, 2.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I think that's probably where it would go. What about you? Yeah. Yeah, no, I think Julio's still the most valuable asset in the organization because of just the sheer upside. I mean, he's one of the best prospects in all baseball right now. the one argument that you make for Gilbert is like all right well he was a top prospect you know one of the you know top pitching prospects in the game and he came up and he
Starting point is 00:27:05 actually had success and there's still a ton of room for him to grow and he was able to I mean the September that he had and some of the opponents that he pitched well against I mean that's definitely very intriguing but yeah I think in the end just the the weight that that Julio's name carries I think brings him to number one. So I would go Gilbert 2.
Starting point is 00:27:34 The interesting thing is Kelnick, right? How much did Kelnick's poor year drag his value down? I don't think that much to be honest with you. Yeah. The second part of that also is like how much
Starting point is 00:27:51 did his September recuperate. Right. And so to me, I don't think that he ultimately, if we're just talking about net loss, right,
Starting point is 00:28:03 of value. Yeah. I don't think he lost that much in the end. I think he lost some. Yeah, from seasons start to seasons end, though, I don't think it's that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 If he was worth a dollar in, you know, May, I think he's still worth like 97 cents. Right. what I mean? Just like, I don't think it dropped that much. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So with that, I think I'll put them three. Probably going to put Kirby three. Just because you're pitching is so like valuable. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah. I'd probably do Kirby three, Kelnick four. But I feel pretty confident that that's the top four.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Like you put them in whatever order you want, but I feel pretty good that that's the top four. After that. So, sticking with pitching here, right? Yeah. Like, is Matt Brash and Emerson Hancock more valuable than Noel V. Marte? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Okay. I think. Even though those guys might be closer to the big leagues and they're pitching? Yeah, because I think people look at Brash and they'll, they still say reliever. Enough teams will say that, that you're not going to have like this big bidding war for him. And Hancock, again, the injury issues. I think his values down a little bit, which is why I prefer not to trade.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I mean, if you could help it. But obviously, there's deals out there that you should make if they're out there. So, yeah, I don't think they would. I think Noelvi's probably five. And then I think Brash is such a polarizing guy in the industry that I think teams, there are teams out there who would only consider trading for him as a reliever. Like they're not even interested in letting him start because they so full-heartedly believe that he can't do it long term.
Starting point is 00:29:49 So is brush even in the top 10? I don't know because like I said, I think the top five is Julio Gilbert, Kirby, Kellnick, Marte. And then after that, it could be Ford. Ty France is going to have some trade value here. Yeah. J.P. Crawford is going to be an interesting name. You know, you just kind of start looking through.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Robbie Ray, I don't know if he counts because he just. signed. He hasn't even pitch for the Mariners yet, but he's going to be up there. Obviously, Evertonson, Hancock. We saw him in ranked Tim. We saw him ring Terry Ford. Brandon Williamson, like Mitch Hanaker. You know what I mean? Like Abraham Toro, we know there are teams that really like Abraham Toro if the Mariners are one of them. So yeah, I don't, I don't know if Brad. Brash is probably 10 if I had like just put a number on him. He's in that 10-11 range, but I think Hancock is still ahead of him. because I think teams are still convinced Hancock can be a number one at some point.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And then I think Thai France, just the bat. Thai France isn't higher because he's first base only. But the bat is like legit. You can't even deny that. So Thai France has to be in the top 10. Yeah. Harry Ford has to be in the top 10. I think JP Crawford is probably 8, 9, 10 somewhere in there.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Young shortstop. We can handle the bat plus defender. And then. is Abraham Toro in there? I don't know. Because we know how much a lot of teams really like him. Yes, there were teams that called the Mariners
Starting point is 00:31:30 after they acquired Toro wanting to trade for him like that day. And we just because the Mariners got him for a couple months of Kendall Grapein doesn't mean that, you know, that's what they would, you know, they would get an equivalent of that in return.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Right. It just, you know, we heard, I think it was past and say that Toro is just like, an absolute favorite amongst the the analytics crowd in Major League front offices. The analyst who work in front offices, they love Abraham Toro's profile. So he might be.
Starting point is 00:32:04 He might be 10. So I just, again, this tough question because it relies on what we think of other teams thinking about the Mariners guys. But I'll go with, I'll go Julio, Gilbert, Kirby, Kelnick, Marte, Um, Hancock, France.
Starting point is 00:32:29 No, Hancock, J.P. France, Toro. And we haven't even talked about, you know, Mitch Hanager. Yeah, just the one year left and in the, yeah. Marco. Did I say Harry Ford yet? I think Harry Ford's got to be top 10. Yeah, you haven't said Harry Ford. Yeah, I'll say Ford is top 10.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So outside of the top 10 for me is still Marco Gonzalez, Chris Flexen, Mitch Hanager, Matt Brash, Brandon Williamson, like, the Mariners are in a really good spot in that regard. But yeah, when you break it down to 10, which is a huge number, and you say anybody in the organization, it really leaves open a lot of room for discussion. You think you got your top 10? I'm sure Matt Brash isn't in it. Yeah, so I'm going to go, Julio Gilbert, Kellnick Kirby, Mark. Marthe, France,
Starting point is 00:33:44 Crawford. I don't know. I kind of feel like I should put Robbie Ray in here somewhere, even though like, yeah, he just signed, but if we're just strictly talking value, because I mean, like, defending ALSai Young Award winner on a pretty team-friendly deal,
Starting point is 00:34:01 I feel like he's got to be in there. It's something, like, yeah, I'd probably put Robbie Ray 7, at least. You know, because the contract probably limits things. I don't know. Crawford. Yeah, but where's Hancock?
Starting point is 00:34:28 This is hard, man. Yeah. This is a really hard exercise. But it's a fun one. You know, we should ask. We could probably bring up. I would say Hancock's probably,
Starting point is 00:34:41 Hancock's probably ahead of France. Sorry, what were you saying? I was going to say, we could probably bring, we should probably bring on somebody like Jason Churchill and ask him this question. Yeah. Yeah. that would be good. That would be like an hour and a half conversation, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, we would have our whole week slate of episodes from just that one conversation. Right. Yeah, so, all right, I think what I'm going to do is Rodriguez, Gilbert, Kelnick, Kirby, Marte, Hancock, France, Ray, Crawford, Torford, Toro? Okay. Maybe Ford. Yeah, I don't know. That's a really fun exercise, though.
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