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Episode Date: December 15, 2025

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The Mariners are reportedly front runners to land Brennan Donovan in a trade with the Cardinals. But what if they don't get him, especially after already losing out on Jorge Polanco? We'll answer to that more coming up here on Mailbag Monday. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, Hoy, sailors, it is Monday, December 15th, 2025. You're listening to the Lockdown Marys Podcasts part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, now the number one sports podcast network. My name is Tiding Azales, and I'm joined, as always, by my co-coast, Colby Patnode.

We're two lifelong Marys fans who've been covering the team for over half a decade. And today, we're going to open up the mailbag like we do here every Monday and answer some of your Marriss questions. But before we get into it, I want to shout out our title sponsor today, Fanduel. If you want to be right in the middle of the action this season, visit Fanduel.com and place your NFL live bets all season long. And just as a reminder, we are now officially in our three show a week portion of our schedule until February 2nd. So we will be posting episodes here on Locked On on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and episodes of our Patreon show on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Obviously, if something breaks on a Tuesday or Thursday or on the weekend, we will do a show that day so long as our schedule allows for it.

and you know so you won't have to you won't have to wait you don't have to worry about us you know waiting until monday if something happens on a saturday to talk about it we will try and get that done asap and then once february second rolls back around we will go back to five shows a week for the remainder of the year here on locked on all right let's get into your questions here on mailbag monday we're going to start with sad p and w sports fan here on mailbag Monday. I'm feeling like after Polanco, it's Brendan Donovan, Cotell Marte, or bust. What are some

other options to get a bat at second or third base to make me feel right about our chances to land a quality bat there? Just feels like a home run or strikeout right now. Colby, I think any list here has to start with Brandon Lowe, right?

Yeah, pretty clearly the best of the I will call it backup plans, whatever you want to call. him. Lowe is the guy that we've talked about a lot. We honestly don't know if the Marys really like him all that much. He's been like a popular trade target of like anybody who's covered the team for the last three or four years now. But we've never actually heard that they've done work on him or that, you know, they've been all that interested. We heard that

they like Yandi Diaz. We've heard that we heard that they liked Randy Rosa Rana. Like, typically we hear things like this. And I don't know if they like last. or not, but, you know, you do have to get some kind of proven bat this winter. And so you might have to take a shot on a guy that you don't love, but maybe I think it's just okay. And Lau, he's going to hit a lot of home runs, which you kind of need right now. You've lost a little bit of power this winter. You need the home runs and Lau is the guy who's going to give him to you.

Even if he only plays, you know, 120 games, he's probably going to hit 25 to 30 home runs, which is something you really need. So, yeah, Lows is the number one. When you move past Lough, I think, you know, you look at a guy like Jake Croninworth who some people really don't like, which is weird because he's a pretty good player. He's not an all-star anything, but he's a pretty good player. Jeff McNeil is another guy who is kind of like a poor man's Donovan. It's just he's going to cost twice as much money and is not quite as good and a little bit more floor there. I mean, Donovan has such a high floor.

And McNeil, you know, he was pretty good this year, but he was pretty mid the two years before that. So, but you only get him for a year, which might be more to the Mariner's speed because he's going to be cheaper to acquire monetarily. And again, he doesn't block anybody for the long term. So I think that's kind of those are kind of the big three. I think Lau is the number one of the backup plans. And then it's kind of Croninworth. It's, it's McNeil. If you want to go like a slot or like a couple tiers below that, it's Willie Castro.

and Luis Renhifo. And then if you want to go even below that, you can kind of go like, hey, let's just get Andy of Bonnierz to be a platoon partner with Cole Young. And, you know, he can, he usually hits lefties very well. And he's a good defender. He's a nice player that we can get pretty cheap. And then there's the trade route. I'm a fan of Edmundo Sosa, but he's kind of more of a platoon than he is an everyday guy. But he does a lot of really good things.

you could go Alec Bome I would just throw him out there I know people hate Alec Bome but whatever look to to the person who asked this question's point not a lot of confidence inspiring

options here after the first couple of names you listed Alec Bome's a fine player but you know Edmundo Sos is a good player Andy Ombion is a good player they're just their role players they're not like

Andy Obanias is a good player I mean, he's a good, like, role player. He's a weak side platoon header. Yeah, he's Dillmore. He was a fine player. So, yeah. And then, yeah, obviously, there's bounce back guys like Willie Castro and, and we're in Hifo. So, yeah, I don't think the Mariners are going to get left, you know, without a chair when the music stops.

I don't think they're going to get left. Walter, I think they're going to get one of those three guys that we talked about. you know maybe there's even somebody we haven't maybe the market on gino crashes so much that he comes back and that's a possibility yeah i think now that polanco's off the board i think gino's back on the menu for the mariners possibly uh i think we're a couple weeks away from that being a real conversation but uh yeah i mean because while the focus is on second base and dh like fine or second base and third base that's fine you're really looking for a primary mary dh like you want the bat and if the bat play second or third that would be awesome that's ideal

yeah but at the end of the day you might just have to get the best bat you can to replace because that's actually what you're replacing is the offensive production not the position uh yeah i think you cast a wider net than just second base but yeah you know we want to specifically look at guys who can play second or third and then also dh a little bit allow or allow others to DH, I guess. Lough is kind of the number one in that regard once you take Marte and Donovan off the board. When they grow out there, just so many different things would have to go in a very particular set of ways for this to make sense.

But we know the Mariners really like Nico Horner. So, you know, again, that probably requires the Cubs to sign, you know, another infielder. and then the Mariners would have to figure out a deal with the Cubs, and the Cubs aren't going to, you know, they already don't want to spend a lot of money this winter and they're trying to win the World Series next year. Well, they're saying they're trying to win it, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, well, do you want to give up four years of Gabe Spire for one year of

Nico Horner? I don't know, right? So, again, I would say that one's highly unlikely. But just throw them out there. Just keep that name in the back of your head. And if the Cubs do go out and they do, you know, sign Bregman or more or less, likely somebody like Gino, then we can have a conversation about Nico Horner because it makes a lot more sense at that point.

But yeah, I think you're looking at Lao and then Cron and Worth McNeil is kind of like the three primary pivots for the Mariners. Yeah. To your point earlier, though, it's pretty clear that the mayor's approach to this is just we want the best bat that we can get. So if you're casting a wider net outside of just, you know, second base, third base, then we're talking about Yandi Diaz. we're talking about Gino Swaras, maybe Alec Burleson, you know,

but if the Cardinals are, you know, being what you feel is unreasonable about Brennan Donovan, they're probably going to be very unreasonable about Alec Burleson. Yvonne Herrera. Yeah, Von Herrera. Yeah, there's, there's some names. There's certainly some names that the mayors can fall back on us. He's apparently being shopped, like, yeah. I mean, he kind of got back on the horse in the second half of the season.

Sure. And again, you're looking for a DH. you can stand at third base if you need them to for a couple weeks, and that's me in tow. So, yeah, there are other options out there. It's just, yeah, it's if you're specifically looking at second base, it's the five guys at the top. It's, it's Donovan, Marte, Croninworth, Lau, McNeil, blah, blah, blah. And then there's a whole, then there's a big drop-off after those guys. There's drop-offs within those guys, but whatever. You guys get the point. We will answer more of your questions here in just a moment, but first a reminder of this episode of the lockdown

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Sure, that'll be fun. I already get the Lows and the lows mixed up. Yeah. So let's see how the one I always get. There's one other tandem I always get mixed up. remember when you when you called chris bryant chris story and trevor story Trevor Bryant yeah that was a fun one yeah i always get the mod risario and the uh the other guy that was traded in the lord james yeah um anyways um yeah i i think they should

like because if you're willing to do that for polo you should be willing to do that because again the idea there was clearly like okay polo's the d h and donovan the second baseman perfect we got two bats and and our lineup is now one of the best in you know the american league maybe baseball uh will they i don't know because the way divish worded it it sounds very much like you know polo and donovan was kind of the exception but he also just said you know even if they get polo they would still be in on donovan so i guess that doesn't exclude the idea that they might you know be willing to do that for other players as well because you know Polo and LOW, I mean, turns out Polo is making a lot more money than LOW this year.

But, yeah, I mean, I think that was the plan. Is that like, hey, we can afford both of these guys. Well, you can afford both of, you know, Lowe and Donovan. So, yes, I think that should be the plan. Will it? I don't know. Probably a big chunk of this has to do with how cheap Lough would be. Because we know Donovan's going to be somewhat costly.

but not ridiculously so so yeah if you get low for like teddy mcraw or whatever then yeah i mean you probably could do that i think they should will they i don't know i don't have a good feel for that um but i've you know long believed they needed two bats uh and as after nailer they needed two and i thought you know a pretty good chance polo would be one of those and now the the language that jerry's been using pretty frequently is like Yeah, we want to add one more bat, one more bat, one more bat. And I hope they add one more bat part was in addition to bringing back Polanco, which we now know is not possible.

So could they do it? Yes, should they do it? Yes, will they do it? I don't know. I don't have a great feel for that. But my hunch is probably not, but they should. I think their preference would be more so to pair Donovan with a free agent, especially because they would only be paying $5.4 million to Donovan.

per his arbitration projection. Find a free agent bat that puts up roughly Polos, you know, slash line that you can get for less than $15 million. Because Polo got 20. How much do we think

I'm just going to get? Especially like if Gino is more so being looked at as like first base DH type rather than a third base one. Which I think he would be. Like I think it was Jude or Davis said like if they did bring back that's how the mirrors would view him he would just occasionally play third base right he would play some third base but he would dh play some first base as well so like the mayors do seem very intent on like if they do bring in this other bat he has to be able to play other places not just dh so i think that eliminates the you know marcello zuna idea which should be eliminated for another reason entirely but uh like they're not going they're if they're going to bring in that second dh bat they want that guy to at least

be able to play somewhere else somewhat regularly yeah at the very least they have to be able to play some first base and then you can kind of like flip flop them and Naylor and the DA spot so like Yadi Diaz could still

theoretically work but yeah I don't Mark Lantos you know like yeah like to me like the idea that I brought up would be like Donovan and then taking a shot on

Cosimo Acomoto. Yeah. Or if Gino's market gets to a point where he's making like 15-ish million bucks. Even then

probably like a one or two-year deal at most that the marriage you only give. So, I mean, I don't, maybe they just take the offer they were going to give to Gino or to Polo

and they just go offer to Gino. But we don't know what the final offer was. Apparently it was extremely competitive. yeah whatever the problem is though like you know i don't think they value those two guys the same so i don't think they would be willing to offer him the polo contract i don't either but you know again if you already had that money earmarked for a dh you know primary dh you could

also play some other spots in your infield well that's gino and paying gino you know 15 million dollars a year isn't egregious even coming off of the year that he came off of like that that's fine you can live with that especially on a one or two years your deal. But yeah, I think they should be very willing. In fact, I think that should be the goal, the primary goal would be to do that. And I would, I would sacrifice the quality of the second bullpen arm I brought in to make that happen to me, that primary DH, along with a Donovan type, is the best thing the Mariners can realistically do to increase their odds to win the World Series this winter, is Donovan plus the bat, plus another bat.

I think that's going to be more impactful than Donovan and like Luke Weaver, which would still be fine. But like I'd prefer the bat to the to the arm. Yeah, I agreed. So to go back to your original question, JJ, should they do it? Yes. Will they do it? I have a hard time seeing it. Dumber wants to know what type of deal for Donovan would you describe as an overpay?

Is it anything that involves Sloan? What would you say the right prices? to me the right price is like Darynglo Sanja or Las Montas as the headliner and then anything below that so no Sloan no Anderson no Emerson

no Farmello a royal I'd be willing to do sure it sounds to me without any inside info on this front that the Mariners will not trade Emerson Sloan Anderson or even for mellow this winter.

Yeah, for just about anybody. Yeah, I think those guys are largely untouchable. Obviously, you know, the very right player comes along, fine, whatever. But Donovan is a three, maybe four win player at best. Like, that's his ceiling. They're not going to give up, you know, six years, seven years of Anderson, seven years of anybody they think is going to be an all-star. They're not going to give that up. I sanger yeah then you go to the sanger the las the arroyo the felon like that group they'll give those guys up that's just kind of my feel for it I think they want to give up gerangelo like if they're going to trade anybody from that group they would prefer to give up gerangelo that's my hunch I don't know that for sure but yeah I think it's one of those guys and then if they want the other guy too they're going to have to add something on their side and that would probably be a bullpen arm we talked about

Matt Svanson, you get them for five years. Riley O'Brien, you get them for five years. They're Jojo Romero, I guess, but it makes less sense now that you have for rare. So, yeah, I think it's one of those two guys is the headliner. And then there's some more bulk behind it, but probably still quality bulk, not like, you know, a bunch of Josh Carrens. I do think, you know, I think Ben Williamson makes some sense here as kind of like a tertiary piece. because they want to move on from Aronado, there you go. Boom. So again, I think if it is like a Laz and Sanja, I think you're getting another piece.

And I think it's probably a bullpen arm. Honestly, I still feel really good about the offer that we made in our offseason plan. I feel like that was aggressive. I feel like it was appropriately, like it was the most amount of risk I was willing to take on a deal. And keep in mind in that trade, we were also getting back Riley O'Brien. So, yeah, I think anybody in your top, anybody from that big four that we mentioned, that's an overpay. I think any of your four homegrown starters, that's a drastic overpay. Again, for Donovan straight up, that's an all of overpay.

And they want to start throwing around Herrera in a trade package, too, then we can have conversations because there's my DH, there's my second baseman. We can have a different conversation. but any idea that the Mariners are going to trade Bryce Miller for Donovan, like it's just not going to happen because the Cardinals don't have the Miller replacement that the Mariners would want. So, yeah, any of the homegrown four starters, they're out. And any of the Mariners pretty much consensus, top four prospects, top five, top four. Emerson, Farmello, the two pitchers, top four.

I would be shocked if they were traded this winter. and they're not going to be traded in a Donovan package straight up. Like the cartels are going to have to add to their package and they don't want to do that, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, it's anything more than somebody in the Sanja-Iroyo Las Camp, I think would be a slight overpay. And then obviously the amount of the overpay depends on which actual player would get traded.

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Link in the description of this episode. Next question here on Mailbag Monday comes from Whose House? Who wants to know with all the rumors of Mariners after Lau, Marte, Donovan, and Jojo Romero? If you could rank the trades in order, you guys think most likely to happen and least likely to happen. Second part, you think St. Louis would trade us Donovan and Jojo in the same deal if they are asking for multiple top prospects. Yeah, I think that's kind of the idea, especially that what we're talking about towards the end of the last segment that, you know, if the Cardinals threw in something else, then maybe you'd be more willing to part with X, right? So, yeah, Romero, pretty interesting.

Like I said, last week, you know, just because you already have two lefties and Spire and Ferrer doesn't mean that you couldn't add another lefty. It's totally fine to have three lefties in your bullpen. They're all pretty good. Yeah, with the cost of left-handed relief pitching being shown over the league, you might just flip Joe Joe and it's separate deal to get a bat that you want. Or maybe if you make Gabe Spire available, because let me tell you, if Zerpa is worth what he got,

Gabe Spire is worth a freaking mansion. So there you go. Thank you for censoring yourself. Yeah. So good. Most likely, most likely the least likely. I think Donovan's at the top.

I'd say Lowe's second, Marte, third. pretty clearly like pretty big space between him and lao too or lao and him yeah yeah um yeah donovan like which one is most likely to be traded well the reliever is always the most likely guy to be traded because he's the cheapest guy but because of what we know about the mariners and and kind of where this whole thing is trending donovan has to be considered the most likely um martin conflicting reports on him heard this weekend that he was the Mariners main target

everybody else says like nope they're just not going to pay that price so we'll see again Marte's market could be falling we don't know they've been asking for an insane amount like I don't know apparently they got offered Pepio and they said no which if you're looking for a starting pitcher

like that's pretty good pretty good return for Marte I have to imagine there's more to that that we know like are the raise really going to take on 93 million dollars guaranteed over five years where they asking the diamondbacks to eat some money on that well it just feels like if that was the deal it would have been done so it feels like there's like some pieces we don't know that there was also a report that they had cam schlittler offered to them for gino sweras right you know we were like well why didn't they take that why isn't that deal just done because it never existed right

yeah so like what probably happened is is that the the diamond backs went and then we're like we want this guy and they're like we'll think about it I guess yeah and also in general have the have the Diamondbacks ever you know come down from an insane asking price on one of their players yeah so

on two of them yeah so in the same month in the same week yeah to the same team it's possible that they're you know because again I really do think this like 10 and 5 rights thing is it's a real like stressor on them um

so yeah I think they might they might start to loosen up here over the coming week they re-sign Merrill Kelly so like is it super important for them to get a starter who will be in their opening day rotation hours I don't really get why that's so important to them I agree with you but you're trading one of the best players in baseball yeah like it's hard to do that and get better like I get you still have perdomo and Carol but you're not going to be that good next year if you trade Catel Marte I'm sorry I mean probably not probably like a french 500 team but anyway so like why does it matter if the pitcher that if like the headliner pitcher that you get back in a deal is ready to roll by opening

day or not why does that matter if the mayors were like if the mirrors were actually like hey you know we'll give you Ryan Sloan are you really going to get a hung up on well but we want Bryce Miller because Bryce Miller could start for us right now like come on yeah um so yeah ultimately I still think Marte is unlikely. I just haven't buried it as much as other people have. Like there are people out there like zero percent chance. And I'm just like two, three percent chance at least. Like so, yeah, I would say it's Donovan, Lao, Jojo Marte, but Jojo is mostly because

A, he might be included in the Donovan trade and also B, like he's a reliever. He's just not going to be that expensive. Although, again, look at what Zerpa just cost. Like, so maybe Romero. honestly again if i were the mariners and like i was getting romero i would try to flip him this winter i would try to make it so romero didn't throw a pitch for me um and in that regard i think the marries would prefer a riley o'brien or a matt sponson uh over romero even though i'm sure that the cardinals would prefer to trade romero than either of those two guys but also again

you can have three lefties and your bullpen sure absolutely i'm not saying that you just like if you can get marrow you're fine plus you play in a dude plus you play in a division right now that has jordan alvarez that has cori seger for now for now yeah seger especially i don't care what chris young says for now i i really want to see what happens if the red sox trade for cori seger that's like peak chaos to me yeah yeah just of like the trickle-down effect that that would have on the rest of the market like there's two things you know about us guys we are team brawl and we are team chaos yeah yeah and so there you go But yeah, I think

based on reading the tea leaves right now, Donovan, Lowe, technically, Jojo, although I'm not sure why he's in this conversation, whatever. I guess because they said the Mariners liked him. There was a report that the Mariners liked him. Yeah, there was a report that them and the Yankees, I think. Yeah. I mean, I guess I'll trade Sanja and Laz for Romero and Donovan,

and then I'll just flip Romero to the Yankees for like Jazz Chisham. That seems fair. Again, Base on what Zerpa just got. I'm just saying. Also, by the way, Jazz Chisholm,

maybe a dark horse in that whole like second base thing. Yeah. Because apparently that's not a non-zero chance type of thing. So yeah. Anyways. Yeah, I think that's the correct order.

All right. Next question here from D. Pinky, do you think one of the big factors in the price they were willing to pay polo was the opportunity to cost of paying him too much would have all but eliminated any chance it's signing a quality free agent

reliever. I don't know if it's necessarily because of the reliever. But I do think that the mares are like we're not just Jorge Polanco away from having the off season that we want to have. So I think that they had a certain point that they were willing to go with them.

That would still allow them to either, you know, go trade for Brennan Donovan or go add that reliever or whatever, do something else add Willie Castro, whatever. You know? And once it got past that point, they were just like, Okay. And also, again, like, you know, like I said in my video that I posted on Twitter the other day, like $20 million a year, even though it's only for two years, it's risky specifically for a team like the mayors who have self-imposed financial restrictions because Polo has to hit in order to be valuable. And he's got, you know, several lower body injuries and his past, I mean, he even dealt with them this past year while he was having a career year. And frankly, I just, I don't, I don't buy that he's a perennial 130 WRC plus guy. I don't know.

He's probably going to be more of like a 115, 120 WRC plus guy. Is that worth $20 million a year to, specifically the Seattle mayor is probably not. I mean, clearly it wasn't like because they let him go. What's interesting is we did hear, you know, on Saturday that like the Mariners made an offer that was described as extremely competitive. Yeah. And now I don't know that. I assume that's coming from the Mariners, but I don't know. it was written. It kind of made it sound like the Polo's agent.

It was like, no, the Mariners made a very good offer. It's just, you know, the mad. There was a lot of info coming from Polo's side and the Kramer article specifically. Yeah. And keep in mind, like, I don't think about wanting to play near his dad and all that. Right. And that's, again, like, understandable. Yeah.

I don't 100% understand how the taxes work and all this, but I know New York has a high state income tax and I know Washington doesn't have one. so there is a pretty decent chance that polo might if the offers were extremely close polo might have given up money actually like because of the tax situation to play new york to be closer to his dad so like if the mariners offered 18 and the met's offered 20 like you know that they might ultimately have lost money i don't know because we don't know what the mariners offer is i'm not going to go through the tax code because obviously you played three games in you know New York this week

and then you play three in Seattle like those get taxed differently so whatever it's a headache I don't care about it I'm not going to look about it but yeah it's possible he actually may have ended up giving some money back to go to New York but at the end of the day yeah I think I think it is like this is our price

this is the most we're willing to do because we still have other things we want to get done and we just don't think that you're that guy you're not the guy who's you know we sign you and we're World Series favorites like they have other things they want to do so I think you're your instinct there is correct um and yeah it just the mets kind of came out of nowhere i my hunches this came together really fast and i i think the mariners you know i think the mariners thought this

was a possibility because they were already setting themselves up to pivot pretty quickly uh so i i don't think unlike you know such a weird sense to say unlike in 2024 last winter where they were caught completely off guard by not signing carlos santana feels like the mariner's have kind of like no no we're not going to do that again we're going to be prepared just in case and so that's a good sign but yeah i think you're mostly right i think it is just like hey look if we give you this it means we can't do this and we feel like we need to do these things to to be where we want to be so we're going to have to just we're just not going to be able to match that offer i i have a feeling you're right all right that is going

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