Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - The Vibes Are Good... and Sustainable?

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode discuss why the Mariners should expand their bench when rosters go back down to 26 players next week, how Eugenio Suárez has reshaped his plate approach and what Seattle needs to do to win its fourth series in a row down in Tampa.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Mariners dominated the raise in 2021. Can they do so again? Plus is Auhini Oswarez all the way back? Let's talk about it here on today's episode of Lockdown Mariners. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day.

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And if you're watching us on YouTube, hit the subscribe button, turn on the notification bell. Give this video a thumbs up. We greatly appreciate it. The Mariners open up a three game set with the raise later today. We're going to tell you what they need to do to win the series. We're also going to dive into the numbers on A. E. E. E. E. E. E. H. S. W. Sv. Seems to be having kind of a. career resurgence right now.

But first, MLB announced today that when rosters go down from 28 players to 26 next week, the 13 pitcher limit will not be implemented until the end of May. How does this impact the Mariners, Colby? Well, it probably allows Scott's service to carry

well, probably 14 pitchers, much like he did for most of last year. It'll be interesting to see how they handle that because well, they have three catchers on the roster right now and carrying, you know, carrying 12, three-man bench where two of them are catchers. That's not so ideal. So it'll be interesting to see how they decide to handle that.

Traditionally, they've wanted to have as many pitchers as they could carry. But it just might not be feasible right now with the current situation. I mean, a bench of Raleigh, Terens, and Toro is fine. You can make it work. But it's certainly not ideal. And also at this stage, do the Mariners have 10 guys or nine guys worth putting in the bullpen over carrying that extra bat? I don't know. Typically what they've done is they've carried the extra arm.

I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's feasible. to ask them to do that again or to expect them to do it again, just based on where the, where the bench currently sits where it has two catchers who really can't play anywhere else but catcher. Yeah, I think they need to go to at least a four-man bench at this point. Plus, I mean, when are they really going to use that 10th reliever, ninth reliever, whatever it is, right?

Because Penn Murphy's been in the bullpen for almost a week now. and still haven't seen him. You know, the same thing happened with Wyatt Mills last year where he was up with the major league club for quite some time. Just never really saw him. So,

like, I get having that guy for insurance, but if you're never going to use him, even in blowouts, or what have you, you know, whether you're winning by a lot or losing by a lot,

even if you're not going to use them. And also, why are you saying, why are you using a, roster spot for someone that kind of fits that, right? Because you have other guys. You have plenty of arms. You're not going to tire these guys out. I mean, like right now, there's kind of an interesting and a unique predicament that the Mariners find themselves in because, you know, Romo's hurt, Giles is hurt, Sadler is out for the year, C-Wald's on the COVID list,

but that's probably not going to be the case for the whole year where you're missing three or four main guys out of your bullpen. So you shouldn't be in a position for the entire season where you're taxing your high leverage guys. And there's also going to, I would assume, come a point where guys like Andreas Munoz are going to be allowed to go more than, you know, one day at a time. You know, he might be able to go back to back days as the season progresses. Further, he gets, you know, removed from Tommy John and all those things. So I just like Ideally I would just go eight man bench or eight man

Bullpen Because I just I feel like those two extra guys and right now you know Another spot that you're using right now is on justice Sheffield who quite frankly should probably be getting stretched out in triple a I just he's not really pitching a ton right now We've seen him maybe what three or four appearances and we're already at game 17 today day. I just, is that really worth it? Is that really worth the roster spot? Whereas, you know, you could have someone like Billy Hamilton or hell, even Steven Sousa Jr. at that point,

you know, come off the bench, maybe give you some outfield help, you know, whatever, whatever you need, because especially right now, you know, with the, with, with, with, with, Hanager on the COVID list, you know, Terenz was on the COVID list. They didn't even use Donovan Walton or Mike Ford. I mean, they had Donovan Walton pinch run at one point, but they didn't even use those guys. So they've been giving a lot of it bads, a lot of playing time to their, to pretty much 10 guys right now, you know, with the catcher, you know, the catcher spot being swapped out

between Cal Raleigh and Tom Murphy. And I don't know. I just feel like maybe they, maybe they're going to end up taxing the hitters more than they are the pitchers at some point if they keep doing this. And I don't know. just feel like there needs to be a little more fluidity with their with their position players right now and we're just not seeing a lot of that and you're not going to see a lot of that unless they expand to a four-man bench or or beyond and honestly I don't think it should be out of the question running a five-man bench quite frankly I get it right now you want to try to take a lot of pressure off of the arms but you know especially after a lockout but still I don't know I just considering how they're using their players right now It just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Yeah.

It's being unnecessarily cautious and while understanding that the rotation, those arms need to be protected. They're also, for the most part, they've been pretty efficient in this first month. We've seen Roby-Rago seven innings a couple times. Logan Gilbert's gone six innings. Chris Flexen's gone seven innings. Marcos gone seven. So pretty much everybody but Matt Brash has been giving you plenty of

innings. So, yeah, you talk about, you know, Penn Murphy sitting out there and Justice Sheffield, I think, has appeared in three games this year. Like, you're not even using everybody in your bullpen. So what good is it to have Penn Murphy up if he's not going to pitch? It's just, it's a wasted roster spot. So, and it's also not good for Penn Murphy. So yeah, it just makes a lot of sense to just, you know, go with the traditional 13 by 13 split.

If you don't want to run a five-man bench because you don't think you have, you know, five players that you want on your major league roster, well, that that's kind of a problem, but also fine. But you still kind of need that fourth man. I think it should be Billy Hamilton over Dylan Moore, but the Mariners disagree for now. so we'll see. But yeah, I think the 13-13 split is the best way to go. But, you know,

traditionally the Mariners have gone 1412. Yeah. Hopefully that changes because I just, I really don't think that right now, as things currently stand, this is getting the most out of their roster right now. And I'm talking about the 40 man in general,

not just the 26th man. I just, I don't think that they are getting, the most that they could out of the guys that they have right now. Just from a construction standpoint, from the geography of the lineup, if you will. Shout out. Geometry.

Did I say geography? Man, it's a day. It's a day. Okay. Well, let's move on because A. Oh, Hennio Suarez is off to a hot start, and the numbers indicate this turnaround for him might actually be real. We'll tell you what he's done to get back on the right track.

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again for making us your first listen of the day for your next listen check out the lockdown now podcast recaps of MLB games with analysis from our local experts including myself taking fans through the season like no other network it is free and available wherever you get your podcast just like us so a yohenio Suarez has been off to a pretty nice start for the mariners here he and this really dates back to the start of last september it's not really just the year for him. He was one of the worst hitters in all of baseball through the first five months of the season last year. But then September rolled around. And since then, in his last 151 plate appearances, he is slashed 320, 417, 688 with a 198 WRC plus. Striking out just 25.2% of the

time, which is lower than he has over the last three years. He's walking 13.2% of the time, which, you know, he's walked a fair amount in his career, but that's really good, especially, you know, considering the fact that he might strike out quite a little bit. He's had 11 home runs, 23 RBIs, 14 doubles. And this is kind of the big thing here, right? Is Eugenio Soros already has six doubles this year. His career high, I believe, is 25, if I'm not mistaken.

That is kind of a change here. And the bigger change right now, as I look at his plate discipline here on fan graphs, 23.9% swing rate outside of the zone on pitches outside of the zone. Colby, looking at his numbers, I think you have them pulled up now from pre-September last year. The outside zone rates, I mean, they're pretty striking, right? They're a lot higher than they've been over the last 150-plus plate appearances for him, right? Yeah, from July 24th of 2020, the start of the, you know, COVID shortened season until, nope, my bad. Real quick, you got to make this quick change.

I accidentally included September in this, and we don't want that. Oh, yeah. One is August. So, yeah. So from the start of the COVID season until August 31. of 2021. Suarez was swinging at roughly 28% of pitches he saw outside of the zone, which is obviously significantly higher.

His swinging strike percentage was 12.4%. So he was a lot less disciplined. I mean, it's right there for you to see in black and white. And you kind of look at, you know, what does this mean for what he did? you know, statistically in that time period, led to a 30% K rate, 179, 273, 397 slash line, and a 74 WRC plus.

He was still able to get his walks. He was at 10.4% in that 700 played appearance stretch. But obviously, strikeouts were higher than they ever have been, which, you know, is always going to be a part of his game, but it's just to a point where he was getting himself out. He wasn't giving himself a chance.

And we're kind of seeing from September of last year until today. He's swinging at fewer pitches outside of the zone. He's being a bit more selective at the plate, and it's leading to better results. And I don't know if that's because his swing is different now than it was. in 2020 or the first half of 2021 or if it's just a game plan thing but either way the results right now speak for themselves and there is evidence to suggest that it's maybe not this level is not sustainable but that Suarez's 2020 and 2020 most of 2021 are more of an outlier than

the new norm for A Eugenio Suarez. Yeah and then you know you mentioned the the whiff rate for him right now over the last 151 plate appearances down below 10% 9.9% so basically 10% but 9.9% with rate and right now you know he is as I pull all these numbers up he is slashing 255359 527 with a 168 WRC plus he's one of the top F-4 getters in the American League right now at 0.6 so let me ask you this back in He's slashed 271, 358, 572. That was his, more or less, his career year. The year before that, he hit 283, 366, 526 with 135 WRC Plus.

And he only struck out 23.4% of the time that year. I think he's going to strike out a little bit more. I don't have any, you know, delusions of him hitting nearly 50 home runs this year. He's already got three. He's hitting for a lot of power, but he's also hitting for doubles power, which, again, is pretty key here because that's not. something that he's done a ton. Most of his power output has been over the wallpower.

And now it's more he's moving the line. He's getting on base and doing damage that way. And it just seems like he's a bit more, not necessarily a complete hitter, but a more well-rounded hitter. And honestly, that's kind of what the Mariners could really use right now. if he can keep this up. So let me ask you this. This is what I was prefacing before. So, you know, obviously he had those career years.

The big number is the big slugging percentages. Do you think he's going to slug over 500? And how close do you think he can get to that level of production, 2018, 2019? Right now I would say I'm cautiously optimistic that he can slug over 500. I would say, though, that I really doubt we're going to see a year like 2019 again from him. I think he's more of a 235, 240 type of hitter. I think he's going to post about league average on base percentages as a result. And then, yeah, I think he's going to hit for enough power that, you know,

with maybe fewer home runs, but more doubles, I think that he'll push right around 500 slugging. So if that's what you get from him, then that's a drastic upgrade over what you got from your third baseman last year. So it's probably a two and a half, three, maybe even a four-win player. And that's, you know, that's a borderline all-star. So we'll see if you can continue it. Obviously, you know, we have 700 plate appearance sample size versus 150, but 150 isn't nothing. Yeah. It's just not quite.

enough for us to, or at least for me to feel like I can say, like he's figured it out or he, he's done something that is totally sustainable. Well, it's also interesting though, right, because, you know, we've seen guys have hot September. We saw Jerich

Kelnick have a really hot September. He's come back and he's kind of struggled again. Suarez has come back off of the hot September and it's just doing the exact same thing he was doing that. So I do think that's noteworthy. I do think that's something that you have to pay attention to here.

I think that's something that indicates that, hey, this is probably real. And yeah, there's probably going to be some regression. There's probably going to be a period of time where he slumps. Everyone does. And that's probably going to mess up the numbers a little bit. But I still think he could hit like 230, 240, get on base, you know, 320, 330 and slug over 500. Like, I think that's a legitimate possibility for A. Eugenio Suarez.

And like you said, that's like a three, four win player. That's someone that's a borderline all-star. And on top of that, he's giving you better defense than at least I personally expected from him so far. And we'll see if that continues. But like, he's been really solid over there at the hot corner. And he's producing offensively. I mean, this is kind of, this is a massive get for the Mariners when you really think about it. If this is actually who he is, right, because he's only 30 years old, you're only paying him $11 million a year.

and you have them under club control for the next three years. Like, you know, we, we looked at this as the Jesse Winker trade, of course. But I think this is legitimately the Jesse Winker and a Yohenny of Swaraz trade. It's not Swarres is just a, you know, throw in just to, you know, take some money off of the Reds books and, you know, just to lower your cost of acquisition for Winker. I don't think it was that. I think legitimately, Jerry DePoto saw something here. Jerry DePoto and his team saw something. here in what Suarez was able to do in September and the changes that they made.

And they felt this guy is more than just a salary dump for us. Like he can legitimately help us. It kind of reminds me of when the Mariners acquired Gene Seguera from the Diamondbacks. And they also got this guy named Mitch Hanigur, along with him. It was kind of overlooked. You know, it was the Jean Sigurra trade. But the Mariners saw much more as the. Seguera and Hanager trade.

They coveted Hanigur and I had heard way back when that they actually kind of thought Hanager was the prize of that trade and that getting Seguerah was great because it's a guy they wanted, but Hanigur was actually the real prize. It's kind of like when we talk about the Austin Ola trade and like Tramel was seen as the prize of that trade, but to the Mariners, it was actually more about Thai France than it was even Taylor Tremel. So, yeah, I mean, the Mariners certainly, I don't think that this was just like, hey, we like Jesse Winker so much and we have to take Suarez.

I think this is Mariners front office and their analyst saying, hey, we can get Jesse Winker at a discount and get a E. E. E. Hulineo Suarez, not have to get him. We don't have to take him, but we should. And we could probably get a discount on Winker for doing it. And by the way, they probably had their choice of Swarra. or Mike Mastakis.

Yeah. And more than likely. And they went Suarez here. And obviously that's not official. We don't know for sure. But presumably, if the Mariners were going to take on money, the Reds likely gave them a choice of Mustakis or Suarez here. And they went Suarez,

and there's probably a reason for that. And I think we're seeing that. I think we're seeing that play out. And right now, AU.NEO Swaras kind of encapsulates everything that the Mariners offense has been about through the first. first 16 games of the year so far. He's taking his walks. He's striking out a little bit here and there.

But he's taking his walks. He's having good at bats for the most part. And he's doing damage that's not just over the wall power. He's hitting doubles. There was the honestly, my favorite game of his that he's had all season was the game that he played on, what was it, Friday night, Saturday night when he went three for four with like three singles. That's great.

like that's that's great like it shows you that his value is not just home run or bust he's not going to hopefully hopefully over the course of the season it's not just he's either going to go two for four with like a home run and a walk or a single or a double whatever and then he's going to you know the next night he's going to go oh for four with a golden sombrero like i don't like it doesn't really seem like it's like one end of the spectrum or the other like in terms of extremes for him. It seems like there is some middle ground there. Interestingly, he's had 15 plate appearances against lefties.

He only has one hit right now against lefties. Yeah. You actually, if you look at this, he's kind of been a reverse splits guy for the last, well, two years and whatever we want to call this year, two years has to change. But traditionally, he doesn't have heavy splits. He's been very good against both. And, you know, you mentioned the strikeouts. Yeah, he struck out some.

But when you really break those down, you know, he struck out nine times on the road trip. He struck out seven times on the nine-game homestand, and two of those strikeouts came against Verlander when he had his ungodly stuff. So since Houston left town, he struck out four times in five games with all that power. So strikeout, I mean, he's had a couple of three strikeout games, which obviously, hurt. But since he got back home, he was been, strikeouts haven't been an issue for Swariz. He's putting the ball in play more than enough. So even the strikeout numbers are a little bit skewed by, you know, an up and down road trip. But yeah, I mean, in the White Sox series, he struck out five times combined in the last

two games. So yeah, I think what you're seeing is Swares is probably the second best all around hitter on the team right now behind Thai France just because he's providing more power than somebody like say J.P. Crawford. Sure. He's been huge. Yeah, it's been massive. And basically what we're trying to say is good vibes only, right?

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dot com. So the Tampa Bay Rays, who are you know, they're one of your favorite team. outside of the Mariners, of course. I really like how they do business as well. They, well, aside from, you know, not spending money. I mean, in terms of the way that they do. Yeah, the way that they develop talent is what I mean.

Their baseball ops. Their baseball ops is probably the best in the game. I'm fascinated by how they do that. By the way, before we go, we did get a little bit of breaking news during the ad read. Mitch Hanigar is at Tropicana Field. He has not officially been activated yet, but obviously the fact that he's down there would seem to indicate that he's getting activated either today or tomorrow. He's not going to be down there if he is still, you know, testing positive or anything like that. Right.

That comes from Shannon Dreher. So, you know, pretty reliable source. Hanager is in Tampa Bay. So there's a good shot we see him in the series maybe as soon as today, but probably before they head back to Texas. Well, I would think. So did she say that she saw him on the field? Like, is he on the field? The official.

Also, she just said Paul Seawald is in Tampa. Okay. There we go. She said Mitch Hanigar is here at Tropicana Field, but no word yet if he's activated. And then she said the exact same thing about Paul Seawald. So they're at the field. All right.

So it would seem weird if they're at the field, if they're still testing positive. Yeah. They wouldn't allow them. So I think they're both getting activated today or tomorrow. Like maybe it's, hey, we can't activate you today, but we're so close to get. Let's wait a day and then we'll get you back in tomorrow. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. But typically we have lineups by now and we don't yet. So there's some last room that need to happen. Yeah, we'll see. But hey, they're both traveling with the team. team or they're at least in the same location as the team. So yeah,

that's a pretty good sign. Yeah, that's good stuff. I don't know. We mentioned this yesterday, but I think we did. Luis Terence is back as well. Yeah.

Like he's already been activated. So that's huge. You know, the Mariners offense exploded on this homestine, especially towards the end. And now you add Mitch Hanager and Luis Terence to that. And you add Paul C. Seawall to this bullpen,

which, you know, it got through it. It got through it for the most part, but did struggle at times. There were some hiccups there for sure without him. So this is a huge, huge, huge massive boost for the Mariners. And this adds a little bit of context to our discussion now.

The Ray is entering the series are 9 and 7. Wander Franco is playing out of his mind right now. He is tied with Thai France for the American League lead in F4 right now at 1.2. Yeah, G-Man Choy is off to a great start. Of course, Mariners' legend. G-Man Choy. And, you know, this pitching staff, of course, they're going to use opener. They're going to use an opener tonight.

Matt Whistler, also a Mariners legend. A lot of Mariners legends on the on the Tampa Bay raise. I think we'll come to find because, you know, remember there's been a lot of trades between Jerry DePoto and the raise over the last six or so years. So how are you feeling about this matchup in general? Obviously, the Mariners went six and one against this team. They got Logan Gilbert going in night.

You know, the rays are playing fairly well right now, but not probably to the fullest of their potential. Do you think the Mariners are going to be able to keep this thing going? And how do you think they're going to be able to keep this going? If so, yeah, what the, what the teams did against each other last year is meaningless.

Right. It's as meaningless as being mad at a certain somebody for saying Joey Gallo is better than Mitch Hanigar. But I guess, so that doesn't really matter. But again, you kind of look at the pitching. would tend to favor Seattle, but it's so hard because Tampa is so good with their matchups and they're so good and their analysts are so good at, you know, identifying those matchups.

It's really tough to say. And Tampa's kind of been the one team that's been able to consistently repeat this bullpenning strategy, this opener strategy with success. And Whistler's going to throw a ton of sliders. It also kind of messes with how the Mariners do their lineups. If you're not going to see the same guy more than once, you know, how to, that impact where you where you hit guys where you slack guys in the lineup so yeah it's a very interesting matchup you know they're coming in brandon low hasn't really gotten going yet he's been okay

but he hasn't really started to mash yet randy a rosarena not uh not really producing at the moment so that that's a bit of a break there josh low or low one of them's low one of them's low i believe This is Josh Lowe, but he's been struggling as well. He's the D.H. Day. And then Mike Sanino, we already know who Mike Sanino is. He's either going to strike out or he's going to drop a bomb. And so, yeah, the Razor a good team that has found a way to kind of weather a storm. They are essentially two bats deep in the lineup right now.

Yandi Diaz, Yandy Diaz has been okay as well. Yeah, they're 9 and 8 and they're not playing like all the way up to their potential, which is pretty terrifying for the Mariners who are, who are 10 and 6 and, you know, not necessarily playing up to their potential, but they're maxing out a lot of guys right now. So we'll see.

It's always a fun matchup with Tampa because they can throw a lot of things at you. Assuming Dillamore doesn't get DFAed, you might want to throw them in one of these games because Brooks Raley, his favorite pitcher to face is now a member of the Tampa Bay Rays for those that don't know Brooks Raley was the the pitcher who threw the the Grand Slam that Dillamore hit against the Astros last year before the Kendall Graemean trade and then accidentally threw up and in three different times on J.P. Crawford until he hit him.

Accidentally. Totally accidental. Totally accidental. This this raised bullpen is pretty dang good. right now jalen beaks is back and he has been really strong uh since he uh since he came back seven and a third inning's pitch 13.5 strikeouts per nine uh for him andrew kitridge another mariners legend he's uh he's off to a really strong start geoffrey sprux raleigh j p fire horizon uh phoenix saunders uh yeah so they they got guys they they have uh quite a few dudes in that bullpen and um

It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough for the Mariners. Like you said, that creates a lot of interesting pregame decisions. I mean, you know, Christopher Negron, I assume, because I don't think we've heard anything about Scott's service coming back. Christopher Negron and his team, they're going to have to kind of be on their toes during this series. And really, I think the key in this one,

pitching's got to step up for the Mariners. Because considering how good this raised bullpen is, might not be a lot of runs out there for the Mariners in this one. so Lone Gilbert Marco Gonzalez Chris Flexen I feel like a lot of this series falls on their shoulders yeah can they get through the lineup three times or two and a half times by the way I know she didn't mention my boy Jason Adam Oh yeah he's on the race now yeah there you go yeah 46% width percentage

So yeah he's he's off to a nice start by the way this is a fun little note here Luis Terenz is better than Mike Sino at throwing the ball. Yep. Mike Sineos. Is that like a stat you saw or are you just making that statement? No. Mike Sino, arm, it's on catcher pop times, arm 81.2, I assume that's miles per hour. Exchange 0.72 seconds, average pop time, 202.

Luis Turenz, arm 81.3, exchange the exact same. overall pop time 1.98 Luis Turan's better than Mike Sino confirmed. Also, Tom Huffy has the exact same pop time as Mike Zanino and a stronger arm, believe it or not. Murphy at 85.4, which feels incorrect. I would venture to say, though, that the arm is less accurate. Yeah.

Mike Zino is very. accurate so and obviously that's a joke yeah clearly makes me a better defensive catcher than louise turenz um and a guy that we have speculated i believe on the show maybe it was on c tz could be a mariner again as soon as july um i would not be shocked uh if the mayor of the uh raise even if they were in it maybe thought they could trade zanino for help elsewhere so uh yeah i'm i'm not going to giving up on the dream of Mike's Mike Z coming back to Seattle. But yeah, by the way, I'm just saying Luis Turance is better. That's all I'm saying.

I'm glad that pop time is back, though, because I don't think they were recording it the last couple years, right? On Stackass or on Savant? Yeah, it's not on the front. It's not on the, the players page. You have to go to the game previews and scroll to the bottom. Yeah, so. But still, I just, I was scrolling down and I thought I saw it.

By the way, Mike Zeno's framing, 42nd percentile. So maybe Luce Trenz is better. Clearly, he has regretted. Significantly, guys. You heard it here first. We are joking. We are joking. I know someone is going to be down in the comments and being like, you idiots.

Mike Zanino is the best catcher of all time, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. By the way, I totally expect Zanino to hit at least two home rides. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because, as we all know, Mike Zanino is, fill in the blank, good. Very good. He is indeed. He is good. And he's an All-Star.

He's an all-star now. All-Star Mike Zanino. That's nice to see. By the way, the Mariners are going to see this race team again in like a week and a half when they get back to Team Mobile Park. So they're going to wrap up this season series with them pretty quick here. So a lot of games against the race, you better get used to them because we're going to be seeing a whole lot of them. So that's going to do a first show.

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