Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - THESE 5 Seattle Mariners Will Improve, Break Out, or Bounce Back in 2026 | Top 5 Friday

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 According to Colby, these five Mariners are going to improve or even break out in 2026. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Friday, January 16th, 20206. You're listening to the Lockdown Mariner's podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, now the number one sports podcast network. My name is Tiding Azales, and I'm joined as always by my co-cove-Colby Patnode.
Starting point is 00:00:35 We're two lifelong marioners fans who've been covering the team for over half a decade. And today, you typically know this show is top five Tuesday, but instead it's top five Friday. Colby's going to give you his top five candidates on the marries to either improve, break out, or bounce back in 2026. And at the end of the show, I'll tell you the five mariners I irrationally love. So mariners who weren't particularly good, but I love them anyway. But before we get into that, I want to shout out our title sponsors today. FanDuel, Playoff football is here. And FanDuel is officially in Playoff,
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Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah, we're covering the whole thing. So yeah, floor is yours. Sure. And one other caveat here, because you know, I'm a big semantics guy. Of course. In order to break out or bounce back or whatever, you have to have had a major league track record. Right. So it's going to be Colt Emerson is going to be break. Like, no. No, there's nothing to break out from. We don't know what the floor is. So, yeah, keep that in mind. I think the list is pretty straightforward. I don't think there will be very many surprises here, if any. And number one, or at least first up on my list, Bryce Miller.
Starting point is 00:02:04 We know Bryce is much better than we saw last year. And I think we know that it was mostly injuries that were dooming him. And we did see, you know, 2024 Bryce at the end, funnily enough, in the playoffs, was the best we ever saw Bryce Miller last year. But this stuff is too good. He throws too many strikes. He's a grinder. He's a competitor.
Starting point is 00:02:27 There's just no way that he's not going to perform better this year than he did last year, unless he's hurt again. And, you know, he didn't get the surgery on the elbow. That's a little concerning. But, you know, again, he pitched really well in the playoffs. So I'm not really sure what to think about that. But if he's healthy, there's basically no shot. He's not going to return to form and be significantly better than he was last year.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Because for most of last year, he wasn't better than Logan Evans. Like, he is arguably the third best pitcher in your rotation when he's healthy. like it's a good rotation. So there's just no chance. I think the splitter is going to come back. I think the command of control, the fastball is going to be back a little bit more. And again, if you can stay healthy, if he can avoid the elbow issues, then I think he's going to be pretty close to what he was in 2024,
Starting point is 00:03:20 which was a fringe Cy Young candidate. And there might even be another gear on top of that for him to go get. He's still a pretty young pitcher. But yeah, Bryce Miller is just way too good to do what he did last year for a second year in a row. And like you said, I think we already kind of started seeing him turn that corner there in the playoffs. I mean, that run that he went on in the postseason is pretty remarkable when you just think about the context of his season as a whole. And then you go, hey, kid, you're going to start game one of the ALCS in, you know, a hostile environment and go toe to toe to toe with Kevin Gossman. And oh, by the way, on like your third pitch of the game, you're going to give up a solo home run to George Springer.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You're going to be down one nothing. And from that point forward, he just locked in. And it was a big reason the Mariners won that game. So I was so impressed with what Bryce was able to do just after everything that he went through in 2025. And I think that builds a lot for him going into 2026 for sure. Yep. So number four? Yeah, again, not really a surprise, but it's not what we're going for here.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's his rotation mate George Kirby. George also battled injury last year. his was very early on. But, you know, there was a real noticeable change in Kirby last year from 2024. For example, his arm slot dropped dramatically. In 2024, he threw from a 37-degree arm angle. This last year, it was 29 percent. Or, sorry, 29-degree arm angle.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's pretty substantial. And now is that an attempt to, you know, make a change to, you know, make a change to, get more swing and miss, which he did this year. Possibly, is it because of the elbow issue that he had in spring and he just kind of had to... Shoulder. Sorry, shoulder that he just kind of had to adjust on the fly to manage that. Maybe. I'd have to guess something to that, right?
Starting point is 00:05:20 I mean, he has a shoulder thing. All of a sudden, the arm angle changes. Like, that feels like, that doesn't feel like a coincidence. No. And again, when you look at, like, for example, the whiff rates on his stuff, like his fastball whiff rate this year went up about 1%. So did the sinker, whatever. That's not swinging miss pitch anyways.
Starting point is 00:05:42 The whiff rate on his slider went up 3%. The whiff rate on his knuckle curve went up 10%. The whiff rate on his splitter went up 7.5%. So he got a lot more swing and miss this year. But the control and the command wasn't nearly as good. Now, it's George Kirby. so it's still pretty darn good, but it wasn't nearly as good. And that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The hard hit rate went way up this year because more of his pitches were in the zone, you know, in the middle of the zone, not on the edges. So there's kind of this fine line that Kirby has to walk. His stuff was really good last year, but it was more in the middle of the plate. And as a result, he had his highest ERA in his career. He had the best K-per-9 season in his career, but he also had the highest whip of his career. He only made 23 starts as opposed to the 30 that you can bank on.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm interested to see if the arm slot stays, does it go back to what it was because he's healthy now? I'm not really sure. But Kirby, we know, has another gear. We know that George can be a legitimate Sy Young contender that is certainly in the arsenal. And we thought that last year was going to be the breakout. Maybe this year he sticks with the arm angle.
Starting point is 00:06:52 The stuff stays the same. And because he's thrown from that angle more often than he has in the past, maybe the command and the control gets a little bit better. That is his calling card. When you look at what happened, again, in 2025, his walk rate was only 5.5%. That's 89th percentile, which is only really noticeable because it's twice what it was in 2024 when he was walking 3% of the batteries he faced for the 99th percentile. So, yeah, again, it's not like George didn't have good control in command last year.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It just wasn't elite like we know George Kirby to be. The stuff was better. So when you kind of look at better stuff, lesser command, the numbers were a little bit worse. So how does he balance that going in this year? I'll be interested to see. I'll be interested to watch him. Notice where the arm angle is at as we go forward. But yeah, I think George, again, we know that he has a Cy Young caliber season in him.
Starting point is 00:07:46 We know that it is well within the reach, well within his reach that he can do that. Last year was a bit of a down year, depending on how you look at it. I think this year he gets back to, you know, the mid to low three. ERA and there's always a possibility he could drop a sub three ERA, keep the strikeouts that he found last year and be a serious, serious contender for the Sion, although it'd be very difficult for him to beat scoobel and crochet, but he'll be a threat for that award. So was that just a command issue or was that more of a concerted effort to try and be more out of the zone and try to get more chases and try and get more swing and miss?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Maybe both. Yeah. So it's kind of weird. Like in 2024, though, he had a, he was in the 84th percentile in chase percentage. In 2025, it was 68th percentile. He had 61 percent. He was 61 percent. He was 61 percentile in WIFs in 2025, only 39th in, in 2024. So he got more swing and miss in 2025.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But he actually got fewer chase, fewer chases. So it's kind of a weird. You wouldn't expect that to be. the case. But yeah, Kirby's year last year was so weird. And again, there's the injury at the start of it that kind of creates this question of like, is this, was this a plan thing to drop the arm angle? Was this a, you know, to make up for the injury and probably lighten the load on the shoulder a little bit? I don't know. I think we're going to find out again, Kirby didn't have offseason surgery. Once he got back in the rotation, he was fine. He didn't miss any starts. So
Starting point is 00:09:25 it seems like he's pretty healthy. But that arm angle never went. back up to where it was. We'll see. We'll see what path he chooses. All right. We'll get into Colby's top three improvement, breakout and bounce back candidates for the Marys in 2026 and just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Marys podcast is brought to you by Fanduel and the Space Needle.
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Starting point is 00:11:58 or $50 a year. Go to Lockdown Mariners. Dot Supercast.com or check the link in the show notes to learn more. It is Top 5 Friday here on Lockdown Ms. Colby's giving you his top five improvement, breakout, and bounce back candidates for the Mariners in 2026. Just went over numbers 5 and 4, which were Bryce Miller and George Kirby.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Comes in at number three for you, Colby. Yeah, number three, first of all, the space needle. We've made it, Ty. That's right. But, yeah. coming in number three for me probably the more controversial of the of the list here I'm going to go Cole young even though I'm not quite sure how much he's going to play okay but look Cole young was very good for like six weeks and unplayable for like six
Starting point is 00:12:46 real quick it is very funny to to see you bring up Cole young after you spent this whole off season talking about like you need to like not you know let Cole young get in the way of you out about this. A, they shouldn't be. I'm not saying Cole Young is definitely going to break out. He's just a good candidate to do it. Sure. Okay. Right. And by the number the numbers here, they don't really mean anything. I just wrote down five names. So. Sure, sure, sure. I'm not, you know, obviously who's more likely to break out. Don't break the illusion of top five Friday, Colby. Yes, we work very hard to make sure that the numbering is 100% accurate. But yeah, Cole Young, look, he's a former top. 100 prospect. We know he's much better defensively than he showed.
Starting point is 00:13:31 We know he has a better arm than he showed last year. What we didn't know he had that he showed last year was quite a bit of pull power. He had some absolute tanks last year, which, you know, you have to do it more consistently. You can't run a 300 on base and a 300 slug and be an everyday player. We know this, but he's 21, 22 years old. He's a former top 100 prospect. He also was hurt last year for, he missed almost all of spring training with his, what,
Starting point is 00:14:03 shoulder was it? His shoulder issue. Yeah. And he had a DH for most of the spring training whenever he did play. And again, he's just trying to figure out the big leagues, but the tools are there. He's going to make contact.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He's going to put the ball in play. I was encouraged by the amount of power we saw. I was encouraged by the amount of, you know, just line drives and hard hit balls he had last year, especially. And by the way, it wasn't just the power that he showed, you know, like the home run in Detroit, the home run in Seattle, you know, the 459 foot bomb. Like it was also the power that he showed in Tacoma before he got called up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 You just look at this guy. Maybe it's another year off. I don't know. Maybe they get Donovan and Emerson comes up and he's really good and they just, they don't have a spot for Cole Young this year. That's possible. but the track record's too good in the minors. The prospect pedigree is too good.
Starting point is 00:14:59 The mental strength, I guess I would say, of Cole Young. You listen to people talk about Cole Young. Dude's a 10-year vet in a 21-year-old body. Like he puts in the work, he understands who he is. He's not trying to be something that he's not, which a lot of guys do. I mean, that's kind of part of what ruined a guy like Jared Kelnick, is he decided he needed to hit 35 home runs instead of being the player that he was. It's not going to happen to Cole Young.
Starting point is 00:15:23 He's going to put in the work. He's going to be better than he was last year. Is it too early to call for a breakout? Sure. But I honestly almost look at this as more of a bounceback. Like back to a norm where he's going to hit in a bad year, he's going to hit 240, 250 with good, solid on base percentages. And then you see what you get slugging wise,
Starting point is 00:15:42 but based on what we saw on Tacoma, based on what we saw in its precent in the big leagues, there might be more slug there than we initially thought. So I still think Cole Young is a very good player. I still think he's a very good prospect or he's going to be a very good player, I should say. Maybe it's not this year. Maybe he kind of gets pushed out for a year. But Cole Young is going to be a good player for quite a while. And so he, until he does actually break out, he's probably going to be on these breakout lists with regularity.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah, agreed. Good call. All right, number two. Yeah, number two, we have the one and only acquisition of the list. And obviously I'm talking about Rob Reff Snyder. Dude's going to hit righties. this year. He's going to post a 140 WRC plus. It's going to be great. Yeah, because he's never done that before. Yes. No, obviously Josh Naler. Dude's never been good. He's going to be good. Right. Right. Oh, I guess that leaves
Starting point is 00:16:35 Jose Ferreir as the brand. Yeah. Yeah. The Mariners really think that Ferre is like significantly better than his baseball card numbers would suggest. And when you dig into
Starting point is 00:16:51 the numbers deeper, you could see why. It's not hard to see why they think that. The guy is a left who can throw 100 and he's got actually a better change up and a better slider than the mediocre strikeout numbers would suggest. Like he gets a lot of whiffs on those pitches. The Mariners think he is just about ready to break out. The Mariners say this pitcher is about to break out. We think this guy is about to really explode. Kind of tend to believe them. And when you look at what Ferrer has from a stuff perspective, when you look at how dominant he is against lefties in general, and that change up that he has to neutralize Ritey's. I think there is, you kind of look at what he did in the second half of last year where he put it all together for the Nationals up until I think late September.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He had a couple of bad outings, but there's stuff. He throws strikes. He gets a ton of ground balls. He's in the Mariners pitching lab now, which call me crazy. I think it's a little bit better than the Nationals pitching lab. I mean, I know the Nationals have turned like the likes of Cade Cavali into the first round talent that he was. You know, McKenzie Gore has really broken out for them.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Oh, wait. We're still waiting for that to happen. So, yeah, I think the Mariners have something here. I know the Mariners think they have something here, but the stuff, the command, the control, the ground balls, the high leverage situations he got to pitch in last year. You could also give you, you know, four or five outs out of that bullpen. I think this could be a year where we look up and Ferrer is a true one and a half. maybe even two-win reliever.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I know he was like a 1.4 win guy last year. I think this year I'll have the numbers back it up, including the strikeouts and the much lower ERA. So Ferrer is pretty obviously a, you know, a breakout candidate because the Mariners have really kind of stake their claim that he is going to be that big of a difference in that bullpen. Yeah, when we were talking to T.J. and Lyle on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:18:49 TJ said, I think this was on when we were recording. Maybe it was off air, which if so, whoops, putting you on blast, TJ. But TJ was like, you know, I would have liked to, you know, that they, you know, went out and got another high leverage arm,
Starting point is 00:19:03 but they didn't now they're, you know, probably don't have an opportunity to do that anymore this off season. I was like, sticking in my head, like who, I think the mayors would tell you that they did do that this off season with Ferre.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. I mean, again, like, I get it. I get what TJ is saying. Like Jose Ferreira, statistically speaking has not been a high leverage reliever in his career. Yeah. He's been good.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He's flashed that that possibility, but he hasn't done it yet. Like the numbers are not there to suggest that he is. You really have to dig into the numbers a little bit to get there. So I understand what he's saying. I kind of feel the same way, but again, the Mariners are really buying into this guy.
Starting point is 00:19:49 You look at the numbers. There might be a little tweak there that you can see to switch things up here. The swing and miss stuff. stuff is there, which is kind of what you need to be a high leverage reliever, you have to miss more bats. And it's not hard to see where you can get that from Ferrer. So we'll see, but the Mariners are banking on a reliever. They've said he's a high leverage arm.
Starting point is 00:20:06 When you dig a little deeper past the box score stats, you can see what they see. And it's not hard to see that working very well at Team Mobile Park, especially with the Mariners player development system helping him along the way. All right. So number one on your list. Who is it? It might not be here. by the time this episode post, I don't know, but it's Luke Rayleigh.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like Luke Rayleigh as the bounce back candidate is the most obvious answer on the planet. But it's the correct one. The guy missed time last year. He had an oblique. He had a back issue. He had eyesight problems. Like, the dude just could never get in a groove last year. And when you look at what he did in 2020,
Starting point is 00:20:45 with the rays and what he did in 2024 with the Mariners, the guy can hit. He can hit specifically right-handed pitching. He has plus raw power. he's a good base runner he's a pretty good defender he's also an incredible buntar shout out to dave sims there it's so obvious that he is a guy who last year was completely hampered by injury and when he's healthy he's a 120 uh was he 129 wrc plus a couple years ago yep or is one 223 and 224 he was a 129 25 to 30 percent better than league average he crushes right-handed pitching. He hits well at T-Mobile Park when he's healthy. I mean, that's a rare feat right there.
Starting point is 00:21:28 The power plays anywhere. You can play all three outfield spots. Can kind of play first base. He can stand there as we want to. Not really. Not really. Yeah. Look, Luke Rayley is the guy who I can see the Mariners just tossing to try and open up roster spots for Canzone. But that's a mistake. Luke Rayley is a better player than all those guys. He's your third best outfielder. You should treat him like he's your third best outfielder. And I just think last year so easily explained away by the oblique injury and then all of a sudden the back injury. And then he was having trouble with his eyesight. He needed glasses. He tried contacts, blah, blah, blah. He'll get that figured out. He'll be healthy this year. He's going to hit. He's going to hit because Luke Rayleigh
Starting point is 00:22:11 hits particularly right-handed pitching. And he hits the right-hand of pitching particularly well, a team mobile part. And he's going to do it to the tune of about $1 to $2 million. whatever his arm number ended up being at. He's an incredible bargain. The Mariners would be foolish to move on from him for nothing in return. And he is far and away, the most likely guy to break out or return to what he was last year because he was hurt. There's no question about it. The injuries are the reason he was bad last year.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And you're listening to the Locktime Mariner's podcast. Part of the Locktime Podcast Network, your team every day. As always, if you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, we have a Patreon. It's called Control the Zone. And on there we talk Marys. We talk Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Link in the description of this episode. You can also find a link to our Discord server. That's different than the one that you get access to through the Everyday Club. This one is free to join. It's just for all the stuff that Colby and I do, not just locked on, but also Control the Zone, our Patreon. you know, Colby's written stuff, all that good stuff. There's discussion about the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:23:25 There's just discussion about Seahawks, Cracken, non-sports topics, all that. It's a good time. We got about 200 or so people in there now. It's starting to get pretty active. So if you want to join that, you can do so for free by hitting the link in the description of this episode, whether you're watching or listening to it. So it's my turn here on top five Friday. I got the Ed Helms this time around.
Starting point is 00:23:48 and I landed on top five mariners I irrationally loved so in other words basically mariners that I really liked even though they were not particularly good we're going to start with one who didn't even play with the mariners
Starting point is 00:24:06 he was just a prospect for them because this dates back to a very embarrassing time in my life about I don't know a little over a decade ago yeah about a I'm going to ignore you and just continue talking about a little over a decade ago where I wasn't super into you know prospects and didn't really know how all that worked and whatever and didn't know exactly like who the best prospects were and I had a buddy at the time who was a Cubs fan right at the height of like Chris Bryant coming up Anthony Rizzo you know that run that they went on and you know so I would look at the Mariners ranking. on pipeline. And mind you, this was when the mayor's had by far the worst farm system in baseball. Their top prospects were Tyler O'Neill and Patrick Kivlahan.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And so that's why Patrick Kivlahan comes in here at number five, because I distinctly remember texting my buddy and being like, man, I'm so happy for you. I can't wait for when Tyler O'Neill and Patrick Kivlahan get called up. And I'll feel the exact same way that you do. Did Kivlahan get an at bat for the mayor? I think he played for the mayor. Did they trade him for Leo? He played for the Padres, I think. Ah, okay. Well.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. So, Mariners you rationally love. So far, you've mentioned two guys who never even played for the Mariners. Well, Tyler O'Neill doesn't count on this list. This was...
Starting point is 00:25:30 And he didn't even picked the right one who didn't play for the Mariners. Ouch. I was just like, yeah, I was like, yeah, this guy's number two in the Mariners Farm system. Clearly,
Starting point is 00:25:41 he's going to be awesome. We could save ourselves some time here and save our lives. or some time. Where is Dejo Lee on this list? We'll get there. We'll get there, buddy. Don't worry. That time will come to. He actually played 137 games in Major League Baseball. He's slashed 208, 308, 398, 84 WRC plus.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I mean, that's not good, but that's not as bad as I expected. Chris Brian and Anthony Rizzo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, wasn't my finest moment. I blame Jack Sorenzic Coming in number four Carlos Fergero I was like dude this guy hits tanks
Starting point is 00:26:20 He's awesome He's Gordon Alvarez Even though I didn't know who Yordon Alvarez was at the time This guy is like he's He's the D.H of the future for the Bears That's a sense you want to hear Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:35 That guy's a future DH At the time I was like yeah DH is a great full-time DHS? I mean, if they're Nelson Cruz. If they're David Ortiz. If they're Edgar Martinez,
Starting point is 00:26:48 yeah, absolutely. I was like Carlos Piguero, the next great D.H in Major League Baseball history. No, but I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:26:58 this guy hits tanks, he's awesome. Like, I love him. Carlos McGarro was great. Like, he's going to be here for 10 plus years. It's almost like you're describing
Starting point is 00:27:06 Las Montes. I knew you were going to say something about Las as soon as I brought up Carlos figure. I knew this was going to happen. I knew it. I knew it. When Lazz is striking out 40% of the time in the big leagues, we will all see the similarities.
Starting point is 00:27:26 All right. So coming in to number three, and we had to make a quick cut here because Colby's internet died, but yeah, coming in to number three, you all saw this one in real time. Donovan Salano. Donnie Barrels. Do I need to say anything else? Now, look, like, I, Donnie was my guy for years.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He was the guy that I wanted the bearers to sign because, I mean, he just kept on producing for very little money year after year after year. Unfortunately, the year that the mayor has finally decided to get him was the year the cliff finally came for him. And I was just still trying to hold on for dear life over the course of the season.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And we got the Cubs game. We got the game in Wrigley where he went yard twice and he drove in five. And I was like, that's like two. weeks. Yeah, yeah. He had like a good like month. Then like after the month of April, he was actually okay. Yeah. But it was just like at that point though, it's like the deadline's starting to approach. Like clearly like he's not a good roster fit for what they're trying to do now. And yeah, it just didn't make a whole lot of sense. And so I was trying to hold on man. I was I was really
Starting point is 00:28:37 trying to hold on. And I was vindicated for especially that one day. And I'll always have that one day. Wrigley field, but, yeah, I did not know. The way the roster looks right now, not a bad fit. Stop. So is number two, Teoscar Hernandez? We're just going to go over all your offseason failures. No, no, no, Tia Oscar was like, TASC was good. Yeah, but I mean, like, you can irrationally love a player who was just merely good.
Starting point is 00:29:07 No, I didn't put Tiascar on here. Coming in a number two is Abraham Toro. You know why. Yeah. Do I need to say why? You know why. Play the clip. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:17 If only we could. If only we could. Yeah, I mean, it's because of the grand slam off of Kendall Gremlin. That trade happens. Everyone's freaking out. Mariners themselves are losing their minds inside the clubhouse. And then cut to like a couple weeks later, zero, zero ball game. Kendall Graveman facing Abraham Toro.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And the funniest possible outcome happens. it is unironically one of my favorite moments in mariner's history i'm not joking it was so good and so i will always love abraham toro for that reason even though he was never a league average bad with the mariners yes but i maintain the mariners won that trade yeah and it's also because of joe smith was better than raphael montaure than greveman yeah well he was better than montaro Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if that's how you also want to look at it, sure.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah. But also Joseph was better than Montero. Like, it was better than both of them for that first year. And then Montero had a really good run in 2023 on that World Series run. But that was after they re-signed him, right? I don't know. I know they traded two months of Grafman. No, it was a rental dump.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And they got Toro who, you know, helped him out at second and third. And obviously had the big, funny grand slam. And they got Joe Smith, who was better, who was the best reliever of the three. for the rest of the year and the mariners won more they won games at a higher clip after that trade than they did with uh graven on the roster they had higher winner winning percentage with him off the roster than they had with him on the roster so yeah cry out that though it's the worst trade jerry ever made statistically speaking you're dead wrong that that was the moment chills was born for real the the grand slam the grand slam yeah
Starting point is 00:31:12 Sure. I mean, that was, that was, forcing into our top 50 mariner moments. When I explained the chills meme to Jerry to get him to say it
Starting point is 00:31:22 on the show, I brought up specifically that moment. And that was what made it, and that's what made it click from. You guys didn't see that. Because obviously I cut it, you know, I just cut it down to him saying chills.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But he was like, oh, and that's literally when he goes to, when he points at the screen, he goes chills. Yeah. It might have been our, fault. Jerry got a little out there.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Whoopsie. Is that a top 50 moment in Mariners history? I feel like that should be on the bracket. I think so. I think so. Yeah. Jerry Capoto says chills. I'm locked on Mariners. That's still so crazy to me. All right. Bring on the big boy.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, number one, big boy. Day Holy. now to be fair colby he was a 103 w rc plus in seattle fine yeah you know how you about mean players yes yes i know with a walk off against jake dekman uh he was uh he was a part of that uh you know huge comeback in san diego
Starting point is 00:32:30 so was christinorphia just kidding maybe christian norpia wasn't all that team i was no that was 2016 yeah yeah yeah no well You didn't think you would get a Christenorphia shout out on this episode of lockdown Marius, did you? I kind of feel like Kristen Orphe was there. Sean O'Malley, I think, in that game.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He was 2014. DeNorffia was only on the team in 2014 after they traded for him at the deadline. Yeah. I don't think he ever came back because he was a rental and I don't think they, yeah, they didn't resign him. Because he's bad. This was 2016 or 28? This was 20, this was 2016.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It was 2016. So this is Remember, Shelly had a big hit in that game. Yeah, this is Nelly's, what, second year in Seattle? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So this is Nelly's second year. This is Seth Smith's second year. Yeah. By the way, I almost put Seth Smith. Had a big hit. Yeah. I almost put Seth Smith on this list.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Even though Seth was, Seth was really good as a bearer. But it's mostly because of how much I crashed out when they traded him for Yovani-Gaiardo. You would have thought that they traded Julio. for a bag of peanuts. I was fuming when they traded south. I miss him.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He was fun. Diaris had a big hit in that game. Yeah. I mean, everyone had a hit in my game. They scored, what, 14 runs or whatever it was? I was thinking of.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Ah, yeah, Stefan Romero. Yeah. Ooh, that's another good candidate for this list. I actually really like Stefan Romero. He's doing like real estate now or something.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Is he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've played in Japan for a few years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So yeah, Dea Holy, you know why. It's Deholy, of course. Because Ty just likes to screw with me. That's why. No, I love Deo when, when, I mean, ask, ask my dad. It was on the show last year, last Father's Day. He always, he still brings up Deaoli to this day and how much I loved him. He's like, he asked me like what he's up to still.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He's like, what's a big boy up to? And I'm like, dude, I think he's been retired for like the last four years, five years. Yeah, I'm looking at his Fangaroff page. He played in 2022 in the KBO, 40 years old. He had a 139 WRC plus at 40 years old in the KBO. Wow. Yeah, which
Starting point is 00:34:48 shows you the quality of competition in the KPO. Wow. 331, 379, 502. He had 233 Jax, 40 years old. Good for him. Anyways, I kind of have to point out the utter disrespect to Daniel
Starting point is 00:35:03 Vogel back. okay i okay i didn't want to steal that from from colton oh you're just doing him a favor that's that's colton that's guy that's colton's guy sure real fast some honorable mentions i'm sure t i just forgot sure um leoti tavaris obviously yeah sure but in this year's no leonis martin leonis martin of course yeah yeah um i don't think it's irrational i don't think gudy belongs on this list No. He's just a guy that you love. For me, Ben Gamble, for one moment in particular.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Well, two. Yeah. The double. And the, well, the, the term, turn ahead the clock jersey. Yeah. The sleeveless. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That's number one. And number two is the pinch it double. His like 61. Yeah. Yeah. What about Taylor, I'm talking of hair? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 The moder pop for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that like weaker whatever it was, however long it was where he was like the best hit around the planet. Steve Sechak, very good. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great one for you specifically.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Underrated. Okay. Yeah. Seishak. Again, it's kind of tough to like irrationally love like everybody loves Kuma. Everybody loves Paxson. Yeah, yeah. Jose Gian when he was here for one here.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah. Yeah. Like love that dude. Oh, yeah. I really liked Adam Kennedy when he was here. Yeah. It was a big Adam Kennedy guy. Cleanup hitter Adam Kennedy. Dude, Andy Chavez.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah. I feel like we're just naming guys. Gerard Dice. We're just naming some guys. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like for me like C-Shech definitely on the list. Dionis Martine, Martin, definitely Jose Gien.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everybody's got these guys. Yeah. And, you know, again, the tricky part is like, what's irrational? Because like, everybody loves Paul Seawald. Right. He's not going to be a Mariner Hall of Famer, but everybody loves the guy, you know, so that's not really irrational.
Starting point is 00:37:15 So, yeah, it's just kind of, it's a fun thing to think about. And yeah, it's a great way to just start naming names. I love naming some guys. It's the best thing ever. This dudes being dudes, am I right? That's right. That's right. You remember when walking?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Benoit pitch for this team and then he got traded for Drew Storren remember what Drew Storren pitch for this team remember Fidel Nunoz Pitch for this team dude I haven't thought about that name in so long but Dalunoz noo holy who we traded for Carlos Ruiz oh yeah yeah they did that's crazy
Starting point is 00:37:54 yeah shout out to that 2015 2016 too Dal Nuno was he in the trumbo deal did he come over with trumbo i don't think so i forget how they got him see real faster
Starting point is 00:38:11 he did come from the diamond back so right pretty sure oh how about wade leblanc that's a good one i saw him pitch in toronto once uh he came from the yeah he came from Arizona so maybe he wasn't that trumbo deal yep
Starting point is 00:38:32 yep he was in the trumbo deal there you go all right before we get out of here can you name every single player in the in the trumbo deal this is when the Mariners acquired him yep there were six players two to the mariner's four to the
Starting point is 00:38:47 to the I remember Gabby Guerrero yeah there you go was in that trade you said four came from the Mariners yep Gabby Guerrero I think was the headliner now this is where I always get kind of mixed up did they trade the catcher castillo for trombo or did they trade trumbo for the catcher i always get that mixed up
Starting point is 00:39:13 well they did trade castio they did trade trumbo for a catcher who will remain nameless on this episode but uh yeah well it wasn't it wasn't castia though castio yeah you he went to the diamondbacks for trumbo Wait, so the Mariners traded two of the four are Wellington Castillo. And Gabby Guerrero. And you said two more? Yep. And the Mariners got a second piece in this trade. Which was Nunia.
Starting point is 00:39:46 We established Nunia. Oh, yeah, yeah. So there's three. So you just need the other two names that went to the Diamondbacks. I don't think I have this one. Was it a reliever? Yep, there was a reliever. I think I can picture him.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I just can't think of his name. And then what position did the other guy play? I think he was an infielder, like an infield prospect. I'd be fairly surprised if he got that. Do you think I should get the reliever, though? Yeah, you should get the reliever. So it's pretty prominent. This was in 2015?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. So not Danny Farquhar. Nope. Did he make a return to the Mariners? He did. He did. Is it Dominic Leon? It is Dominic Leon.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yes. Okay. And the infielder, I just, you said infielder, right? Yeah, pretty sure he was an infielder. I don't know. It's going to be some scrub, like, Sean Alley type of guy. I don't remember if he even played in the majors, to be honest with you. Who was it?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Jack Reinhimer. Oh. I remember Jack Reinhimer. Sure. Yeah. I don't remember him fondly. Yeah, when you hear the name, like, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that name.
Starting point is 00:41:09 but like, let me see. Did he even play? He played for the bets for like 21 games in 2018. Yeah, he played two games for the Diamondbacks. Oh, and then he came back in 2021. He was in Tacoma. I thought I had his card. Yeah, he in my Jerry collection.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, yeah. 2021 played for the Rainier's, 91 games. All right. Well, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marrars podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. And once again, if you never miss an episode, it's time to make it official.
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