Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - THIS OR THAT: Which Seattle Mariners Breakout Season Would Be More Impactful in 2027?!

Episode Date: October 15, 2026

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What would be more impactful in 2027, a Kate Anderson breakout or a Michael O'Royal breakout. Add a more coming up. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors, it is Thursday, October 15th, 2026. My name is Taddy Gonzalez, and I'm joined as always by my co-co's Colby Patnode. This episode is brought to you by Kalshi.

for a limited time download Kalshi and use the promo code locked on to get $25 when he trade $25. Kalsi, trade what's next. On today's show, we're going to play this or that. Colby has three Mariners topics where he'll present two options. We'll have to pick one or the other. And once we're done with that, we'll hand out our final season grades of the week with a review of the Mariners Corner Enfielders. But we start with this or that. Colby, what do you got for us this week?

Kate Anderson hits his ceiling or Michael Royo hits his ceiling. What would be more impactful for the 2027 Mariners? Oh, boy. All right. Well, what do I think Michael Roe's ceiling is? That's a good question, first and foremost. Because I feel pretty good about what Kate Anderson's ceiling is. Sy Young candidate.

Maybe not a Cy Young winner, but Cy Young candidate. I think that's pretty consensus. All-Star, you know, Siongantor for a couple years for a decade, maybe. Top 10, top 15 pitcher major league baseball. Yeah, yeah. Depending on who you ask, I'm sure. Yeah.

A Royal, though, it's like, how much is the defense going to drag down his overall value? Because if we're talking Michael O'Royal ceiling, like he's going to hit, he's going to hit a ton. He probably puts up a 300 average. High on base. 73080 on base. I wonder what the ceiling for his power is.

I think 25 homers, but I think he's going to settle in at around the 18 to 20 mark, give or take. Yeah. He will hit doubles. Now, obviously, Team Mobile Park is famously suppressive

to doubles. Sure. Yeah, I still think he's probably going to hit I don't know, 50 extra base hits. a season. Sealing-wise, that means probably 60 is the absolute ceiling. But, yeah, so I mean, like, I think the slug could get into the 500s.

I don't think he's ever going to be like this huge power threat, so to speak. But I think it'll be a very high slug. So, I mean, yeah, I think Randy, like, that is pretty much the ceiling, like, this year, Randy, minus the stolen bases. I think Roy will steal some bases. I don't think he's going to steal 28 or whatever. Randy does I think he's probably going to settle in somewhere in the 12 to 18 range. And like he's a good athlete and he'll pick his spot. So if he can really dial in and yeah, I mean, look, Josh Naylor can steal 30.

If Josh Naylor can steal 30, Michael Royal can. but obviously Naylor has that that gift for pattern recognition when he's on the bases and all that and I don't know if Royal can develop that so yeah I think

2020-ish with a bunch of doubles and a 300 near 400 on base and probably about a 500 slug I think that's the ceiling offensively and the defensively he's a good

enough athlete to be a decent left fielder. It's just, you know, so was Randy. And, uh, yeah, and I just kind of chose not to be. So I don't know. This is tough because like the player that you're describing in a Royal. That's a game changer for Mariners lineup that needs a game changer too, frankly. Mm-hmm. But with Anderson, we're talking about coming off the heels of likely trading George

Kirby or Emerson Hancock. probably Kirby and then you also have a bunch of other questions in your rotation right now like is Brian Wu going to be able to bounce back and perform more consistently especially on the road is Emerson Hancock real

who is Bryce Miller right so if Kate Anderson arrives next year and he's like I'm the guy that everyone thinks I am because also

like it's it's not just about what he gives you during the regular season it's also what that does for you in October assuming that you get there yeah so I I think I'll go Cade but man that's that's tough when you frame it when you frame a royal

ceiling that way yeah I think the the thing with Cade is like how much would him hitting his ceiling actually solve the Mariners' problems with the current roster. Like it would help. Don't get me wrong.

Certainly it would help. I think a lot because I don't, I'm going to be honest, well, and, you know, we'll do our off-season plan and all that while we are likely not going to make any changes other than subtracting a guy from the rotation. I do feel a little uneasy about the rotation given everything that we saw this past year. Yeah. Yeah, I feel much more uneasy about the offense than I do the starting pitching. And I just think that it's going to be, if there is a starting pitching issue that crops up,

it's going to be easier for the Mariners to fix that, then it will be for them to go at, particularly right-handed bat. Sure. And one that is cheap, which we know is unfortunately important because John Stanton and Chris Larson. So, yeah, I think the answer is still Kade, but I do think there is a, a compelling case to be made from Arroyo just based on the current roster build and like what the needs of the Mariners are. But I think ultimately Cade ceiling is just flat out higher. And I think the impact is just a little bit more, you know, especially if you do get into October to have a Cy Young

candidate and then they'd have Logan Gilbert and hopefully a little bit better Brian Wu. Like that, that'll win you a lot of series. So yeah, I think the answer is Anderson, but I do think there is an argument for a royal. Yeah. And play along down in the comments below. Let us know which side you're taking on this one. All right. Coming up, we'll get into Colby's two other this or that's.

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And if you want a question answered on a future mailbag Monday or submit a trade for Fanfiction Friday, add on over to our website at Ahoybaseball.com. Fanfiction Friday is tomorrow. So if you have a trade idea, haven't submitted it just yet, get that in, because you might get it featured on tomorrow's episode. All right, your second, this or that, Colby, what is it? Ty, you have to pick this or that. You give Colt Emerson the starting shortstop job on opening day and it's his.

for the rest of the year. Uh-huh. Or you're forced to start JP Crawford for at least 60% of the games at shortstop. Neither? Nope. It's this or that tie.

It's not this, that, or the other thing. Like a certain someone I know, I reject the premise. Too bad. All right. Can I at least ask when is opening day? I don't April

oh and Cole Emerson's I'm going to swing a bat all off season till mid February yeah that does the answer really change if I said late May because like

he can't go to spring train it still gives some more time though he's not going to face live pitching in that time though no but I mean like he's going to face live pitching the same amount of life fishing. You would give Colt Emerson the keys if he just got to take

an extra six weeks of batting practice, that's the differentiator for you. It helps. I wouldn't say that, like, that's going to push me in that direction, but it does help. Okay,

my other option is playing J.P. Crawford at shortstop for 100 games. That's why this is a good one, Ty. I don't know what to tell you. So, so. I think cold Emerson is going to be a way better defender than he was this past year but he wasn't good either no he wasn't good defensively this year um like of the things I trust the most between the two players it's probably JP's bat right now so I guess I'll go with JP see it's interesting you could look at this as like what's better for the Mariners I

think if the Mariners are in this situation, they have to ask what's best for Colt to throw him into the major leagues coming off of his first serious injury of his life and be like, hey, I know you really struggled with him to last year. Too bad. I hope you figured it out despite not swinging the bad all winter. Like get in there, kid. Like, yeah, to protect Colt a little bit here because you've already decided this kid's going to be a huge part of your future. Yeah. Yeah. So like, I think when you factor that in, you factor in the only thing about these two players that I trust to be good next year is JP's bat. Like I think the answer kind of has to be JP.

Now, obviously, the right thing to do is to go get a different shortstop and let him handle it. And then Colt Emerson gets called up when he's ready. But like, if this is the scenario that we talk about. And by the way, when we talk about like, there's that path where like it makes sense for JP to come back, this is part of that path. Like is that JP plays a ton of shortstop until Cole Emerson's ready. yeah yeah yeah and like well there might be someone in the comments that's like well i'll just take cold emerson's defense and whatever he gives me offensively is just whatever right

you could also just go pay someone like seven million bucks to play pretty good defense for you and not give you anything offensively and also not hurt colt emerson in the process allow him the ramp up time that he likely needs. So that's kind of like a sidebar to all of us. Yeah, I'll go with JP, but I don't like it. Yeah, it's certainly not ideal, either scenario, which is the whole point of the this or that, or at least one of the points of this or that. So, yeah, JP over Colt.

but the real answer is like any other shortstop like legitimate shortstop over either of them at least to start the year yeah to start the year eventually cold becomes part of the equation hopefully

maybe a third base though like it doesn't have to be shortstop but yeah yeah yeah all right what's your last this or that yeah so this one actually comes from Matthew who is a patron

over at control the zone I was doing my weekly solo show over there for our tier three and four patrons. It's called the 300 level. It's a pretty good name if I say so myself because it's the best place to sit. And what website is that on? What is the link? Aoy baseball. Well, you could go to Hawaii.

You can get there from that. It's also patreon.com slash control the zone. There you go. There you go. Yeah. But anyway, so this one came from Matthew and I liked it. And it was a fun question to answer. and I told Matthew in the show yesterday.

If he listened, I don't know if he's listened to it yet. I was like, I'm going to get Ty's perspective on this. So this is for Matthew. You can have this offseason. Okay. You get to choose one of these two scenarios. The Mariners acquire one, three and a half win position player. Okay.

And one, one and a half win reliever. Hmm. Or they, you can have two, two war players. Mm-hmm. And two half-win relievers. So it's five war, however you want to add it, like three and a half plus one and a half, obviously. Yeah. So how do you want the, if the Mariners are going to add five war this off season, how would you like that distributed is essentially the question?

So like a really good position player and a dog or. That's one and a half to approaching daddy territory. Yeah. or two everyday players plus two dudes in the bullpen Lower D dogs Sure

Like Gabe Spires about a half-wind pitcher Sure I want the most impact in the bullpen Okay See that's interesting So you're picking the two players well like

this is this is me again trying to break the rules of your game here like I would pick the the two two win players and the one and a half win reliever if I could like I would mix the two options

but again there is no breaking the game yeah I know so I think I'll go with the three and a half win player and the one and a half win reliever just because like I want the most impact in the bullpen and

I mean three and a half win position player that's essentially the Randy replacement because like you're not trying to replace 2026 Randy a Roserana you're trying to replace what Randy or Roserana has been in the past and what he's likely going to be in the future which is that three-ish win player

120-ish, 125 WRC plus kind of dude, right? Right. Now there's a few different ways you can go about that where it's more defense than offense. Like a Stephen Kwan, we've talked about that, right? But like, yeah, I think that's my choice. But, yeah, to break the game a little bit, though, I would like to mix the two and get the two position players

and the one big time reliever. Matthew's caveat to this was like they cost the same to acquire. like same money or same prospect capital like at the end of the day the net result is you spent the same amount of assets to get either set of this or either group sure sure uh that you like i went with the three and a half win player and the one and a half win reliever not because of the bullpen like i think the bullpen's the most important thing or anything like that because you do need depth in your bullpen also and you do need to fill a couple of spots in your lineup so like bulk like quality bulk like this is that's still does make sense. But the one thing you have to remember is that we're talking about five wins here, right? Five wins spread out over two roster spots versus five wins spread out over four roster spots. I get 26 roster spots no matter what.

So if I add those two impact guys, I still have two more roster spots available to me that I can go out and I can get. And I can maybe, you know, maybe I can't get a two-win player, but can I go out and can I, you know, recreate a, you know, full wind reliever? yeah, I probably can. I get two shots at it. So it's, yeah.

Because, you know, in general, like look, five wins is five wins. It doesn't matter how you get there. Well, yeah, it does because of two roster spots are generating five wins. That gives me two more roster spots than four players generating it to go out and try and get more than five wins. So to me, it's about because there are limited roster spots. Yeah, though. There are limited roster spots, right? And the more roster spots that you have available to you, the likelyer it is that you are going to find players who are either what you're already looking for or can maybe even exceed it.

Like sometimes you go bargain bin shopping and you hit a home run. But if I'm using four roster spots to get the five wins, I have less opportunity to go and improve my roster and other spots. So I'll take the impact over the bulk. And again, this is quality bulk. This is two everyday players and a couple middle relievers. Like that it's not, you know, just for scrubs. It's legit. So, but just because I get the extra two roster spots on top of the three and a half one player and the one and a half one reliever, I think that's the answer.

Yeah. But there, there is, you know, if the Mariners went out and they got a couple of starters like everyday players and they got a couple of solid relievers, it's not a bad off season. It's just, you know, I, you're giving me the choice. two-win players is like the the merit to that is you guarantee another roster spot of competence and this team needs confidence right because like yeah i totally get what you're saying but like there's also the risk there that you get nothing or even negative value out of those additional roster spots that you have open to address right uh this is where context matters like the specific players actually do matter here because yeah like a three and a half win

DH is not going to be like as interesting to me as a mariner like front office exec as like the two win shortstop or the two win two one shortstop yeah yeah the two when you super utility guy right right like those that versatility and that fit on my current roster do matter so it's basically impossible to answer this in a vacuum because the specific players do very much matter yeah in this conversation. But yeah, just in general, I will take the, the impact over bulk when I'm building a roster just because I have 26 roster spots. And I'll take the shot that the two spots I can find. If I can't find anything in those two spots, I mean, okay, I still have the same amount of wins as I do if I take the four players, you know, and I can still cycle through that, those last two roster spots,

hoping to find the fitting piece where I can't do that if I stack those guys with low ceiling, high floor players. But this 20207 Seattle Mariners team, they could use some floor. So it's a legitimate question. Yeah. Well, shout out to Matthew. I like that one. Good stuff.

Again, feel free to play along in the comments below. Let us know what you guys are choosing. All right, coming up, season grades for the corner infielders of the Mariners on the 2026. season. But first, a reminder of this episode of the lockdown airs podcast is brought to you by five-hour energy. If you've got a sweet tooth like I do, then you know how tough it is to find that perfect treat without all the sugar. That's why the fruity rainbow five-hour energy shot brings that nostalgic flavor back in a whole new way. Fruity rainbow five-hour energy shots treat your taste buds to an explosion of fruity flavor with a tasty caffeine kick. It's a quick, easy way

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All right. So season grades for the 2026 Marin is continuing those. We have done catchers. We have done middle infielders. Now let's do the corner infielders, Colby, and let's start with one Mr. Josh Naylor, the first year of that big contract that he signed with the Mariners. A little under a year ago, 2-61, 317, 350, a career low slugging percentage for Josh Naylor. 95 WRC Plus, the lowest mark of his career since 2021, a year in which he only played 16. nice games.

0.6 F war, just 10 home runs, 57 RBI, but put up another 30 stolen bases. So, weird year for Josh Naylor,

disappointing year to say at the least, for Josh Naylor. How would you grade it? C minus. I was thinking D. Yeah, just like he hit for average, you know,

and, and, He did steal some bases for you. It didn't strike out. Right. Like the power was the problem. And the power outage is not too difficult to explain. Like it seems pretty clear that that wrist injury, which happened early,

bugged him all year and we know it did. We saw him shaking it out all the time and immediately had surgery on it after the year. So I do try to factor in the injury concerns about, you know, because there's just not a ton you can do about that. Now, we'd have a conversation about whether or not Josh Nader needs to stop stealing bases because he needs to be in the lineup. He needs to hit home runs because he is a first basement that the Mariners are paying, what, $18, 19 million a year for?

Like, you need that guy to hit home runs more than you need him to steal bases. And stealing bases, obviously, you can mess up your wrists sliding into bags. You can mess up your back. You can mess up your neck, which Josh did. things trying to steal bases. So we can have a discussion on that merit, but the fact that the lead wrist of his swing was so compromised

for most of this year is the reason why he didn't hit home runs, I think, is a valid excuse. So because of that, I'm going to give him a little bit of leeway here, but still, it was disappointing year. And this is a guy that you were counting on to kind of be that, you know,

big bat, that all-star quality bat in the middle of your lineup and you saw it last year in 2025 josh and there was everything you could have ever hoped for and more uh and that's the player you thought you were getting this year and and you just didn't you flat out didn't and again like i think part of that is or a good chunk of that is wrist related but just not good enough at the end of the day and and the defense also took a huge step back as well so um you know again i'll give him some grace because of the injury uh but it's because of that grace that's the only reason why he has a quote passing grade. I got to give him

a C minus just because just not enough impact. Yeah. You know, at times I would say he was better than people were giving him credit for, you know, his overall numbers were getting heavily skewed there for a while by that awful start

that he got off to where he was like one or two for 50 or whatever it was right, start the year. And then from that game where you hit the two home runs against the Astros to what was it like the start of June he was actually like really good like his numbers look similar ish to the Josh Naylor we saw after they brought him in at the deadline however you know the power just completely disappeared you know he when he hit that

home run that our friend Ben Reneery called about that game that we were out against the raise back during the 50th anniversary like that was his first home run and forever right and just the homers yeah and the homers were just so few and far between over the course of the entire year he has to hit hit two that night yeah because remember ben started feeling himself on the second one and start bowing almost called the Taylor ward homer the next day yeah yeah yeah yeah the word triple back close yeah Ben was uh was feeling good about himself yeah he's on a heater yeah he was on a heater those those two days um um Unfortunately, the Bears were not, though. And Josh Naylor, just, yeah, outside of that stretch that I just talked about, that was really his only heater of the year as well. He just, he has to hit for more power. And yeah, again, like dealing with that wrist thing throughout the year,

eventually has surgery on it at the end of the season. Hopefully he's got that fix now. And hopefully that leads to a better year for him and that leads to more power for him. because, like, if we're talking about replacing Randy or Rosarena's presence in this lineup and the production in that lineup, I think a big part of it is going to be just from the guys that you have currently on your roster from Cal, from Julio, and from Josh Naylor, especially to make up for some of that. It's not just going to be what you do outside of the organization. So, yeah, so Naylor, I want to see him hit 20 next year.

year. And if he can get more than that, great. And if that means that I have to sacrifice the stolen bases, so be it. If say he only steals 10 to 15 next year, but he gives me 20 home runs, take that all day. Yeah, take that all day. So, yeah. So again, some good things here with Josh, like the 261 average, the 12.2% K rate. That's the lowest of his career, I believe. Like, all that stuff, good but yeah just not enough consistent production from him and all this but there was also that that stretch where he just had the yips defensively and he just couldn't throw or catch the baseball yeah that was that was a rough i mentioned the defense was yeah took a significant step back and and look i don't need josh to be super rangy he's not going to be he's not a great athlete

um but you got to catch the freaking baseball and you got to be able to underhand flip it to the pitcher a hundred out of a hundred times. Like those are basic fundamentals and he struggled at that for for large stretches of the season. So yeah, Josh, Josh's got some work to do this winter and it starts with him getting healthy. First and foremost and keep in mind, Nails has a 30 home run, you know,

season under his belt. Yeah, it required him to sacrifice a lot of that average though. Right. But based on the current build of the team, it might be a sacrifice. They need him to make again. So we'll see how, I mean, he's gotten paid. like he's got his big contract like he's not going to get another one so you know they're like the ideal

josh naler is 2025 josh naler that's ideal but yeah if i have to choose between you know the 30 home run josh nailer and what we just saw this last year definitely the 30 home zero stolen base josh niler yeah for sure um all right well brennan donovan it's hard to grade because it was only 39 games it was 39 pretty good games though yeah like when he played it's it's it's it's it's B plus a minus like just the defense was a little off and yeah that was not to be unexpected considering he hadn't played much third yeah and it's hard of grade because I just I feel bad for the guy almost have to give him an incomplete yeah yeah I just I don't even know what kind of grade to give him honestly like on the field I think it was an A like 277 371 409 a 131

WRC plus like when he was in the lineup you saw what this was supposed to look like the proof the proof of concept was fantastic. It's just you didn't see it with any sort of consistency over the course of the year. And yeah, just the getting concussed and the multiple trips, the IL for other things for the, for the core stuff and all.

Like, uh, just, it sucks, man. Um, so yeah, I don't know. If I have to give a grade, I would probably go see. I mean,

I just, But like you like you said, yeah, like you said, it's just it's incomplete. I think if the Mariners had gotten 80 more games from Donovan at the level he was playing at in the 30-9 he was healthy, I think they make a playoffs. Like I think he was that big of an impact that he could have swung this thing, you know, four or five wins and got them into the playoffs now. It wouldn't have solved the other problems on this team. But I do think he was that good. And if you're that good for about a quarter of the season, and then the rest of the time, you were just hurt. Like, and it's not like they were things related to the core surgery that he had in the winter and then he got a concussion.

Like, you know, it's really tough. I mean, if we're, if we're grading just like, not necessarily Donovan himself, but like what Donovan encompasses, it's probably an F, right? Because he was the big offseason edition. He was supposed to have this major impact. You just, you didn't get it. I'd say I'd still make that trade though. So like it's hard to. Oh, like I yeah,

I would too. But you know what it was, you know, the, you just, you didn't get the impact you were banking on and that and that had and it had to work. Right. It was a move. Well, that's, that's more of an indictment of your entire offseason than it is this individual trade.

Which we talked about when they, they set up this whole offseason where it's Donovan or bust. We talked about what the problems were with that and well, there it is. So. Yeah. I just don't think it's fair to give him anything but an incomplete. Just because there's just not enough data. When he did play, he was.

He was your best player, probably, when you played, or at least your best hitter. He's the only guy all year that Randalled, that Randalled, rivaled Randy at all. Yeah, you see, rival and Randy combined. Randled. Randled. No, new thing. The Randallery between Cal and Randy.

Cal and Randy Randall. But yeah, I just think I just I have to give him an incomplete. It's just, it's not here to give anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I think we have to give West and Wilson a grade. And that great is F. Like, I don't want to put it entirely on him because like it's also just on the Mariners for just continuing to.

way too much. Yeah, just for continuing to force him onto us and forcing us to have to watch West and Wilson play essentially like West and Wilson became an everyday player for the Marys this year. Definitely couldn't do anything about that at the deadline. Yeah, 192-263-296 the slashline 65 WRC plus negative point four F4. He had a home run against Max Fried and it went in New York. So he gets a D minus in a 1-0-0-0 in New York. He drove in the only run. So a D-minus, but he is, and I say this with no due respect, the worst third baseman I have ever watched in my entire life.

My God. He was awful. No range whatsoever. Like ball hit like two feet to his left at like 84 miles an hour. And he's like, oh, I should probably dive on that. Yeah. and then he missed it. Like it's just,

when you have the range of Weston Wilson paired next to the range of J.P. Crawford, it does not take, you know, a genius to figure out why the Mariners were so terrible defensively this year. God. You had two guys who are wearing, you know,

concrete boots at the two most important positions on the infield and arguably the most important position in baseball, defensively at least. And that was your, that was the left side of your infield for a large chunk of the season. reason. Like, Westman Wilson is atrocious. He's terrible. He's terrible. And again, it's not even his fault. He's terrible because the Mariners played him pretty

much every single day for two months. And it's like, that's not who he is. Yeah. It's never going to be who he is. So I pray that we never see West and Wilson Wilson in the Mariners uniform again. And like, thanks for the one home run. Yeah. Appreciate it. Uh, uh, he also had a big new cough of, uh, Ian Seymour, I think. Yes, I think so. He also, uh, uh, was part of the rally against the Cubs at the Randy game that I wasn't at but I was on Katie Anderson day so like yeah he had a couple big hits but like oh my god this guy is just the worst third baseman I've ever seen in my life yeah he's suck he is the mark

trumbo of third baseman yeah he sucked all right that's way too much time on west and wilson um corian field grade just for the whole group I probably go D at best Yeah. I think it's got to be an F. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because even with Donovan, I mean, you almost have to take him out of it entirely because you just didn't play enough to really factor in here. Has to be an F like. Yeah. Yeah. You just. level over production at first base and they got nothing from third base. Your two, your two biggest offseason moves came at these two positions.

Resigning Josh Naylor. Career worst years. Yeah. So, yeah, I was trying to be nice up first and give it a D. Yeah, it's enough. It's enough. It's enough. It has to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown. Mariner's podcast for the Lockdown Podcasts Network, your team every day for Colby Patnode. I'm Tadden Gazzalas. If you want a question or fan fiction Friday trade red on the air, head on over to Ahoi Baseball.com. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L.O. underscore Mariners.

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