Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - What Do We Think About These Mariners Trade Targets?

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Ty and Colby give their thoughts on a bunch of potential trade targets submitted by Mariners fans.Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the s...how on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com!OpenPhoneStreamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at www.openphone.com/lockedonmlbMonarch MoneyTake control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com/lockedonmlb for 50% off your first year.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's show, we're going to give you our thoughts on a ton of potential trade targets for the Mariners. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Thursday, July 24, 2025. This is Tedding Azores and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Marys podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. As always, if you want to hear from me and Colby, even more,
Starting point is 00:00:36 support the show you can check out our patreon all you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode so we asked you guys just a little while ago on twitter which players you want to hear us talk about a bit more ahead of the deadline because you know on fan fiction friday we do try to give you just our general thoughts on the player but typically that's still within the context of the trade you've set so independent of any other factors we're just going to talk about the players you want us to talk about today and we've got a bunch so we'll see if we can get to all of them and also there is no fan fiction Friday tomorrow so we still wanted to get you guys involved here in the trade talk because tomorrow we're doing reverse fan fiction Friday we're going to give you our trade ideas so I'm going to be a trade deadline plan it's just going to be a bunch of trade ideas that we came up with so forward to that anyway let's get into these players that you want us to talk about side eye dumper wants our thoughts on taj bradley Yeah, it's a really interesting idea. You get him for four full years after this year.
Starting point is 00:01:40 The Rays have been reportedly shopping him, so they're very open to moving him. And it's also worth noting that just last night, the Rays did demote Bradley to AAA. Interesting. Yeah, so I'm not sure if that's a precaution to make sure he doesn't get hurt before the deadline, or if he's throwing the ball particularly poorly at the moment. His numbers aren't great. but when I look at Bradley, I see a lot of swing and miss potential. I see really good stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I see a guy who's already, you know, a good number five starter who sometimes looks like a number three. I see a different kind of pitch mix than what Seattle has a lot in their rotation right now, as well as a more over the top arm slot, which is, again, different variation of what you would typically see when you watch the Mariners. So I think this is an interesting idea. I think the cost, four and a half years of even like a number four, number five starter is a lot. And the one thing you want to be careful here is you don't want to pay for the control ability more so than the upside. So who do you think Bradley is? What do you think he can provide?
Starting point is 00:02:54 and how much is that worth to you on a year-to-year basis, right? And again, you don't want to be caught up because paying for, you know, five years, four years of Bradley might cost as much as Dylan Cease, probably more. And it's like, okay, well, isn't Dylan Sees a better pitcher right now and isn't that more important to you right now? So there is a, there is a, you know, a tipping point where the club control actually negatively impacts you just because of how much it then,
Starting point is 00:03:24 cost to acquire and it costs more to acquire than the impact that guy will actually provide specifically because he's controllable that makes sense yeah i also to your point i i don't know if this team necessarily needs to go out and get another long-term starter and they just need a guy for the rest of the season i don't even know if they really need a guy that i mean because look when we get to the to the to the postseason odds are they're going to start you know in a wildcard series, three of, you know, Louise Castillo, Brian Wu, George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, independent of whoever else is part of the rotation. So you really just need a guy that gets you to October. At that point, that guy is probably not going to pitch at all over the course of the
Starting point is 00:04:07 postseason, no matter how deep you get into the postseason. Yeah, even five or seven game series, you're only going to need four starters. Yeah. So I had more so just look at like the Adrian Housers of the world. We're going to be talking about him a little later on. look more of those guys at this deadline. And then like if you do want a longer term starter, maybe Todge Bradley is still available this winter. Maybe you circle back on that. If that's actually someone that you're interested in.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I just don't think that's something that they necessarily need to put a lot of energy into at the deadline. The bonus here, though, is if you acquire a guy like Bradley, you put him in your rotation, you see how he looks at Team Mobile Park. You see how the, you know, your brain trust likes him. And is he the type of guy that the Mariners typically, you know, go after? Is he data driven? Is he a guy who likes to tinker? Like there are certain.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I don't want to say intangibles because you actually can measure them. But like things that we don't have information for, you and I don't have information for that the Mariners can learn about the guy. And if he is, you might be more comfortable trading Louise Castillo this winter because you already have his replacement. Whereas if you don't get a guy like this, you do get a rental type. then you trade Castillo fine, but either you have to go spend the money, most of the money you would save by trading Castillo would have to go right back into acquiring his replacement
Starting point is 00:05:30 or trust Logan Evans and Emerson Hancock for a full year. And the Mariners right now won't commit to either of these guys for more than a handful of starts at a time. So I'll tell you how they feel about those guys. So that is the one bonus here. But again, you have to be careful not to pay more for the control ability than the upside of the player you're actually. actually acquiring. Yeah, the Castillo aspect is a really good point. And that is something that we have
Starting point is 00:05:54 talked about in the past, you know, maybe getting out ahead of, you know, one of the big items that might be on your shopping list this winter, getting that done now rather than waiting. But, but yeah, I don't know. I just don't think it's something that, like, they really need to explore deeply this summer. But, hey, if it comes across their table and it's something that's pretty reasonable, then sure, I'm on board with it. Bradley, like you said, yeah, he got sent down last night. He got jumped on by the White Sox last night. I just went an inning in two-thirds. I give up four runs, walk three, four hits, give up a run, no strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. You wonder of going from that AAA ballpark he's pitching in right now to Seattle. Yeah. Would probably help him quite a bit. And again, I do like the stuff there. I do like the makeup. I feel like there is a mid-rotation starter in there. And you just haven't found it yet, but I would trust Seattle to find it.
Starting point is 00:06:48 But again, you don't want to pay for the four years instead of the, you know, the impact. Right. Tom wants to know about Brett Beatty. Says his numbers both offensively and defensively have improved every year. Yeah, he's actually been solid this year. He's still not getting on base really at all. I think it's a sub-300 clip still. But he's actually, last time I checked, he was a slightly above league average bat.
Starting point is 00:07:14 It's been pretty good defensively. I think the Mets just need him, though. unless they're getting a third baseman at the deadline. I think they need them. So I don't think they would be trading him. Yeah, I mean, Viantos, not really a third baseman, and he's also not having a very good year. He's been garbage this year.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. By the way, the Mariners sent down Brandon Garcia, and they have recalled Jackson Coar. So just happened. A roster move. Not that happened before. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, Beatty, again, he was not going to get on base.
Starting point is 00:07:48 he's a significant downgrade defensively to Williamson. Like are you that much better with Brett Beatty? I'm not going to say no, because Ben Williamson's a really bad hitter. So yeah, I mean, it's interesting, no options left there.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So, you know, it's kind of make it work or don't. This is a lower in play. This is like deadline day and you just snag him for some depth. Like I don't want the plan at third base to just be, well, we got Brett Beatty and then we got Carlos Santana, you know, to play first. And that's just kind of
Starting point is 00:08:23 what we did. Like, no. But if you go get a real impact at first base, you go get some real impact in the bullpen and you're like, hey, we can also just add Beatty here at the end to top it off. Fine. Like, I'm not necessarily opposed to it. But I just, I don't know. This, this idea doesn't excite me all that much. It's, it's, I just don't even think it's possible, frankly. Yeah. Well, I mean, even if it was, I just doesn't excite me that much. And I wouldn't give up a ton to make it happen either. Speaking of Mark Vientos, Tyler wants to know about him. So again, yeah, he's been garbage this year and he shouldn't play third base.
Starting point is 00:09:02 He really should probably just DH, but he probably would play third base for you. I mean, we're getting close here, especially once Starling Marte and Jesse Winker come back and they push Jeff McNeil back into the endfield where the Mets might just DFA him because, yeah, he's out of minor league options. So maybe this is an opportunity here where you're able to get a guy who a lot of people wanted this offseason and you're able to buy super low on him. I just don't really know how he fits and you're going to need him to figure it out quickly to justify how little he fits roster wise.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, I mean, maybe if you can get him cheap enough, you can give him a shot to be a platoon partner with Luke Rayleigh over at first base if you don't land the first baseman, the everyday type of first baseman that you need. So maybe that's a way. But yeah, there's a lot of risk here. But there is reward. He was very good last year offensively. So, yeah, and he is club controlled for quite a while. So, yeah, I can't say no. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that like they shouldn't even consider this.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I think that there are a lot of red flags here and I think there is some questionable roster fit. And then it comes down to what does it cost? Because I kind of doubt the Mets are just going to give him away in trade talks just because of the upside. But the Mets need to, you know, they're trying to win the World Series this year. Viantos is not helping them. And he's out of option. So they might not have a choice. So it's an interesting call.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I think that's definitely something to keep an. eye on. I don't think he's the solution for third base. Maybe he's a part of the solution for first base. And then you can kind of try and get him back on track. And again, like Brett Beatty, like this can't be a guy you're counting on to help you in October. This has to be kind of a bonus. This has to be like the Laudy Tavares type of. Sure. Yeah. All right. We are going to go over more of these guys in just a moment. But first reminder, this episode of the Locked on Maris podcast is brought to you by Game Day Hugh. Today's episode is brought to you by Game Day Hugh, and so is this hat that I'm wearing.
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Starting point is 00:12:41 Let's get back into these players that you want to. talk about. Hamspire D-69 has a trio of pitchers here. He wants us to talk about. Sunny Gray, Adrian Houser, and Ryan Pepeo. So, yeah, Sunny Gray has been a guy that the Mariners have been interested in multiple times in the past. They almost acquire him multiple times. And it came so close, in fact, once that they were involved in the Sunny Gray trade, just didn't actually acquire him. And he's good. He's still a good pitcher. The ERA is a little elevated this year, but you look at the underlying numbers. He's still a very good pitcher.
Starting point is 00:13:17 The problem is he's going to make $35 million next year. They're out. Unless the Cardinals are eating a big chunk of that, he's out. Even if you offset it with some salary going the other way, you don't have anybody making that much. And like, you're not going to, like what, you're going to trade Luis Castile for Sunny Gray. Like, that doesn't help you.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So, yeah, the Sunny Gray thing, I like it. I think you'd be a great fit here. He's still a very good pitcher. I like that he's got another year of club control after this year. But he's making $35 million. Yeah. You're out, unfortunately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Well, and then you're also on the hook for at least another five in 2027 because of the buyout, I believe. So you're on the hook for $40 million beyond this year on Sunny Gray. Plus, there's like the no trade clause. Would he even accept a trade to Seattle? Probably. But, you know, still just want to mention that. Right. But so like and even if the Cardinals ate like half of that $40 million,
Starting point is 00:14:20 it's still $20 million that you're going to be on the hook for for Sunny Gray next year. And again, Seattle's probably interested in trading Luis Castillo because they want some more financial flexibility. So are they going to just have all that eaten up by Sunny Gray? Like Gray is probably better than Louise Castile right now. But is he significantly better? I don't know. does he make you significantly, you know, better with Gray in and Castillo out? I don't know, maybe, but it's just, the money's just not going to allow that to be a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Like the Cardinals would have to eat so much money that it then becomes prohibitive on the mariner's side in terms of prospect capital. So I don't see that happening. It'd be awesome that they could figure out a way to make it happen, though. I'd be very on board with that, but I don't see it. Yeah, Hauser, I think, is perfect for what the Mariners. need right now. Just a guy that is pitching well right now.
Starting point is 00:15:17 He's running a sub two ERA at the moment. He's not going to cost a ton, I don't think. And he stabilizes the back end of your rotation to get you to October. Because again, he's not going to pitch in October for you, at least not out of the rotation. Yeah, like I'm out of the bullpen maybe. Yeah. But it's going to be, you know, it's going to be Gilbert. It's going to be Wu.
Starting point is 00:15:36 It's going to be Kirby and Castillo, barring injury, of course. Yeah. But, but yeah, like, as far as like just getting one of those. those guys goes, you know, just got to, you know, upgrade over Evans and Hancock and that's it. I think Hauser is perfect for that situation. There's another guy that I'm going to talk about tomorrow on Fan Fiction Friday that also kind of fits that mold. Yeah, Hauser's a totally sensible, you know, trade target, and he's very similar to Tyler Anderson when the Mariners acquired him a few years ago. You're just looking for a guy who's going to give you quality innings on the back end and not burn your bullpen every five days.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And he's going to be cheap to acquire. He's going to be cheap money-wise as well. So, yeah, he's a totally sensible back-end guy. Sure. I don't have any problem with that. Yeah. Pepio, I just don't think the race would trade. He's not for sale.
Starting point is 00:16:31 No. Yeah. So Zach wants to know about Jeffrey Springs, J.P. Sears, Sean Newcomb, and Jacob Loeuf. Lopez. Any of those A's lefties stand out to you? I know you like the Jeffrey Springs idea. Yeah, Springs has an additional year of club control after this year. He is a four seam changeup guy, which is not something the Mariners really have in their rotation right now, as well as not having a lefty in their rotation right now. He's been very good at times. This year, it's been an up and down mix for him, however. But again, he is pitching in that little league ballpark,
Starting point is 00:17:08 that AAA ballpark where the ball just jumps and it's very tough. Like Louis Severino is terrible there and Severino's a good pitcher. So Springs, the contract is not unmanageable next year either. And I think you can get them relatively cheap. Oakland's a team that usually will take bulk. And I think you can get springs for bulk from them. J.P. Sears, carves up the Mariners, seemingly every time he goes out there. he's not a decent.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah, I'm like, he's fine. Like, he's a, he's a pitchable lefty and there's some stuff there. We know he pitches well at T-Mobile Park, but is that just because he's facing the Mariners? I don't know. But yeah, that'd be an interesting ad as well. I think he'd be a little more expensive than Springs. But again, having a lefty in this bullpen just to kind of break up all the
Starting point is 00:17:58 righties, having a different look, making the Mariners a little bit harder to game plan for. I think is, I think it's really interesting. So I'd be interested in both of them. the starters. Newcomb, whatever. Like, I just, I don't care all that much about it. Well, you'd have, you'd have to ramp him back up because he's been pitching out of the bullpen for a while now. Yeah. And I think the most he's gone out of the bullpen was five innings, like two months ago. And then other than that, it's been like two innings, three innings at most. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, like, if you're looking at him out of the bullpen, I guess fine. As a starter, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:37 like again you would have to ramp them out and how quickly are you able to get that done yeah uh Lopez is the guy I've liked for a while yeah from the Tampa system we have him in a fan or a fanficion in an offseason plan yeah yeah I think so yeah yeah I believe he was a rule five guy that the race couldn't protect or we didn't think they were going to and they did and I think he was a part of the how did he end up in Oakland was he part of the springs deal might have been but I think he was yeah that's a guy that I've liked for a while he's the left-handed reliever he's got pretty good stuff I think it's an interesting profile at team mobile park and I think he can't help you
Starting point is 00:19:19 to me he's more of a hey this is our JT Sharkwa than he is like this is my Jimmy Garcia just because of the track record there but I like Lopez so yeah he's going to out of the rotation right now by the way is he?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah yeah he's starting for them I need to do some more research John Lopez then. Yeah. Because last I heard, he was a reliever. No, he's started 11 games for the A's. He's thrown 60 and 2 thirds this year.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He's running 11.13Ks per 9. Probably too expensive then. Maybe. Yeah, but no, these are all interesting guys. I would, in terms of my like preference, I would probably rank them trying to factor in everything. Sears probably still one. Springs probably still two.
Starting point is 00:20:08 but Lopez 3 and then I on a newcomb I don't care like whatsoever about he's just not interested to me
Starting point is 00:20:17 at all sure Nate Davis wants to know about Vinny Pasquantino we've actually kind of dove into that idea just in general a bit more
Starting point is 00:20:26 but to just reiterate our thoughts on that that feels like a situation where you're paying more for the club control rather than the actual
Starting point is 00:20:34 player and what he ultimately brings to the table Pasquantino's fine he's a a slightly above league average hitter about 10% ish above league average he doesn't provide a ton of that
Starting point is 00:20:46 traditional first base pop that you really want like does he help yeah totally I just I think that gets too expensive because he's under club control for what three more years yeah I think
Starting point is 00:21:02 yeah like the WRC plus is the last three years 110 1009 104 that's fine this year he's slashing 269, 327, 442. That's cool. That's dope. 17 home runs this year. He must have tapped into a bit more power as of what it is. I don't remember his home run total being that high last time we checked or even being
Starting point is 00:21:25 close to that high last time we checked. But yeah, I just, I don't know. Again, I just feel like it gets to a place that's way too expensive relative to what he ultimately is. Yeah. Are you paying for club control? for you paying for impact. With Pasquantino, you're paying for club control.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. And, you know, he's pretty similar to Thai France, just left-handed Typhrance, where the power is not traditional first base power, so you hope he kind of makes up for it with lots of doubles and, you know, high on base. And, you know, to be fair, that worked very well for Thai-France in this lineup for a couple years until it didn't, really.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And so, yeah, Pasquantino, to me is a guy who, well, A, he's, he's lefty. He's a lefty first base only type. The Mariners have too many of those already. So not a great fit roster-wise. I know he finished the first half on a heater. So he is playing well right now. He's also bad against lefties.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Like we should mention that. Like this year, he's running a 66 WRC plus against lefties. 123 against Redis. Very similar to Luke Rayleigh, very similar to Dominic Canzone. And that's a bit of a problem. him and there's not the impact there. Like with Josh Naylor, there's impact because we know Naylor has 30 home run power. He's done it before.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Like, so yeah, it's one of those things where it's like, okay, well, if I'm going to get a strong side platoon first baseman, that's not really going to solve me my problems because I already have that guy. Isn't it just cheaper to just go get Rhino Hearn? Or nail is more. Yeah. It's one of those things where I would not pay more for Paswantino than I would for Nailer.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And I know I would have to because Passantino. again, he has three full years of club control after this year. It's not like you're never out of the business of acquiring good players. You should never be out on that business. But when you actually look at the fit and you look at where your roster's at and you look at the cost, it's hard for me to imagine that all that comes together in exactly the way it has to for this trade to make a lot of sense for the Mariners. If they're traded Luke Rayleigh for Vinny Pasquantino, like fine.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Rayleigh's an outfielder. Kansas City needs it. And then Pasquantino just replaces Rayleigh. They have similar club control. They have similar club control. Obviously, Rayleigh's got more power, but Ben,
Starting point is 00:23:47 he's going to be a more consistent average guy. So maybe something like that would make sense. But I just, I don't think all the stars are going to align to make Pasquantino a tremendous fit for Seattle this summer. I also think his availability, using air quotes here for those of you not watching on YouTube. has been a bit overblown because of the Jack Caglione thing.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But Caglione's been really bad at the Major League level. I don't think he's pushing Vinny Pasquantino out anytime soon. And right now they can make both of those guys work with the way that that roster is constructed as well. So I don't think they need to trade Pasquantino. Right. But if Caglione is the first basement of the future, which we know he is. Sure. You need outfield help, particularly need defensive outfield help,
Starting point is 00:24:35 because that ballpark, as we know, big gaps. Rayleigh makes sense for Kansas City. And Rayleigh probably is going to be as good, if not better, than Pasquantino offensively. They're going to have similar WRC pluses, and they both have similar holes in their game. But Rayleigh's more of an athlete, and he's actually a pretty good outfielder.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He's not a good first baseman. So, yeah, I actually think a Rayleigh Pass Quintino swap could make some sense for both sides. Sure. But again, short of something like that, where you're swapping out one of your, uh, you're already platoon left-handed hitters,
Starting point is 00:25:13 uh, who are corner guys only. I, I just, I don't see the stars in lining all this one. Uh, but Pasquantino's a fun guy. We saw, we learned that in the all-star break during the derby. So, yeah, you'd definitely be a popular player here in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But, uh, again, it just doesn't make a ton of sense roster wise based on what it's going to probably cost to acquire him because of the club control. Not really. All right. We are going. to go over a few more names in just a moment, but first a reminder of this episode of the
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Starting point is 00:26:49 to talk about. Ross says, I know it sounds crazy, but if the rays are the raise, then why aren't we even talking about Jonathan or Ronda? Costly, yes, worth it. Let's discuss. I don't think they're trading Jonathan. He's not available. Yeah. He's got, what two more years before you even it's arbitration I think and he's an all star this year he's already a three one player I think at this point yeah I don't think not even the raise
Starting point is 00:27:16 trade guys like this yeah like I know the raise are the raise but usually that's because like all right we're now in year two of arbitration let's get out of this thing you know Arb two is usually the earliest they will trade Bradley is kind of the exceptions of the rule here right and Bradley has not
Starting point is 00:27:33 had a season like Arondis having not really close to what Aranda is having. And Arand, like typically the raise are a really good place to go. And they still are, even though they're still in it right now. They're a team that will buy and sell. They've done that multiple times, regardless of where they are in the standing. So we should always be talking about the raise every year as a potential trade partner, regardless of where they are in the standings.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But you have to kind of put yourself in the mindset of the raise. And they're not even going to pay Aranda above league minimum for the next couple of years. They're certainly not going to trade him then or now. They might trade him. Again, once he starts making $8, $10, $10, $15 million a year in arbitration, then they'll probably move them. But they're not going to do it before that. Look at Randy or Rosarena. So yeah, I think that's the reason we're not talking about Aranda, even though he has a Tampa Bay, Ray. Dylan wants to know about Stephen Kwan. These Stephen Kwan rumors won't die. Much like a Stephen Kwan at bat. He just won't know quietly.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah. Yeah, they, yeah, it just, I keep hearing his name. Fine, Sand keeps talking about him. I think I saw Rosenthal talk about him or someone else talk about him yesterday. Now, to be fair, it's not linked to the Mariners in their life discussion, it's just that he might be available. But you also see people quickly point out, like, it's highly unlikely that he would be traded because of the club control left and all that.
Starting point is 00:29:00 But, yeah, Cleveland is kind of like a team like Tampa. like if they're fringy in it, they might buy and sell. Kwan would be a really fun fit here in Seattle. He'd be great at the top of your order, kind of push JP down to nine or two or whatever. But those two guys setting the table for MVP level, Cal Raleigh and Randy Rosa Rana, what he's doing. And, you know, even Julio.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, you put more guys on base, Julio is more likely to get better pitches to hit. And Kwan gets on base. And he can steal some bags, although it's not a huge part of his game. But, yeah, Kwan is a guy. I don't think he's going to get traded. I think he might get traded this winter, maybe next summer.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But if a team's looking to, you know, if the guardians are looking for somebody to overpay, sure, they should put him out there. But I think to get the guardians interested, I think you're talking about Colt Emerson being involved here. And wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Kwan's a really good player. Yeah, I'd consider it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, I would too. But I just, I don't think that ultimately it's got, and that's straight up, like, they might be like, yeah, give us Emerson, give us Laz and give us Sloan. It's just like, no, not, Kwan doesn't impact the baseball enough for me to give that up, but he's a really good player. I just don't think he's available in a way that a lot of people, like, like, he's available, but it's blow, you know, blow us away with an offer and then we'll consider it.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And then we'll start talking about it. But yeah, he'd be a really nice fit here. And I'd be really excited if they could acquire him. I just don't think now is the time that the Guardians actually trade Kwan. So that's why I'm not all that jazzed about the rumors that have been flying. But there have been a lot of them. Can't deny that. There's a lot of buzz around this possibility.
Starting point is 00:30:47 All right. Last one here. This one comes from Vlad. How much would Willie Castro cost? I thought about this a lot. Yeah. By the way, just feel like it's worth mentioning that Daniel Kramer in his article that he put out last night said that the merits of like Castro for a while.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So that adds even more fuel to the, you know, we've talked about him a lot, but yeah. Now we have like confirmation. The mayors do like him. Yeah. And apparently him and Julio are good buddies. If that means anything, I don't know. But throw that out there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Willie Castro again, thought about this a lot. He's kind of a, I don't want to say perfect fit for Seattle, but he can pretty much check one of the many boxes that the Mariners have in terms of needs, like third base,
Starting point is 00:31:39 first base, right field. You can also play second base, shortstop, left field, center field, you know, probably even first base if you needed him to. I think you're looking at, even though he's a rental, I think you're looking at something like Tai Pete. I think Teddy McGrath is a guy who makes some sense here.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think Tyler Locklear is the guy who makes some sense here. But I do think that, again, without knowing the the bidding war situation going on here. I think someone in that Tai Pete range as a headliner, and then I think you probably need a pretty decent second piece. I think a guy with the upside and talent of Teddy McGraw would be pretty enticing to Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So I really like the Willie Castro idea, and I think he's going to be fairly reasonable in terms of costs. And I think Tai Pete is a really good headliner for a Willie Castro trade. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's right about where I'm at. How far would you go on a Castro trade? Well, again, keeping in mind, beauties in the eye of the beholder, blah, blah, blah. Like, I have Tai Pete at like 15, I think, in my prospect ranks as things are seeing right now.
Starting point is 00:32:55 A lot of places still have them top 10-ish. So there's some discrepancy there. I think anybody, like I wouldn't, I don't think I would do Arroyo or Ford for two months of Willie Castro. Yeah. Anybody below that? I'm listening on.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like anybody outside my top 10? Now again, if you get like Willie Cascarrow, Castro and Brock Stewart, would I give up Harry Ford for that? Probably because I'm getting two things there. But for just Castro straight up, I don't think he has the upside of Gino. So I'm not going to be willing to pay as much for him as I would for Gino. But yeah, like it's the Morales.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It's the type of heat. It's the Tyler Locklear, like those type of guys. I would give up a couple of them for Willie Castro. So I would say I'm getting fairly aggressive on him, but I'm not going to cross over into the reckless type of thing. But I just think Typeed is the perfect like starting point. But yeah, Castro works in so many different ways for this team. He could be the Dillamore replacement.
Starting point is 00:34:12 He could be your third baseman. He could, you know, play some outfield for you, whatever. There's just so many levers you can pull with Castro. He just makes your roster so much better. He doesn't block you from doing anything else you might want to do either. And he crushes a team mobile park. Yeah. So, yeah, he's a.
Starting point is 00:34:30 rental. He's going to be a little pricey, but he's worth it. Yeah, I love the Castro idea. All right, well, that's going to do it for our show. Thank you guys for all the names you wanted us to touch on here. And thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime errors podcast.
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