Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Where Do Injuries Leave Mariners With 24 Hours 'Til Deadline?

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

The Seattle Mariners suffered a multitude of key injuries over the weekend, but after paying a haul for Luis Castillo, it's too late to pump the brakes on their playoff aspirations. Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode tell you why it's imperative the Mariners add both to their bullpen and their offense within the next 24 hours.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] up to date with all things Mariners at Inside the Mariners - a FanNation website covering the Seattle Mariners on the Sports Illustrated network.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11 | @InsideMarinersFor more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Did you know every week, nearly 40 million job seekers visit LinkedIn? Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONMLB.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Mariners are really banged up and the trade deadline is tomorrow. How does that impact their trade deadline strategy and what does the team have to do over the next 24 hours to ensure it stays on course? We'll tell you our thoughts and more on today's episode of Lockdown Mariners. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network. Your team every day.

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and you are officially entered to win a Mitch Hanager signed card that has a little piece of the jersey in there it's numbered there's a lot of cool things with that card it's a really really nice card so we got a lot going on today probably too much to get into everything on here all at once So let's just cover some minor items real quick. Anthony Mosevic has been traded to the Kansas City Royals. He was DFAed yesterday. Of course, to make room for outfielder Jack Larson on the Mariners 40-man roster. The Mariners get cash considerations from the Royals.

And that's it for Mosevic, which is pretty much all you could expect from a deal like that. The other small item, Luis Castillo is going to be making his Mariners debut officially. On Wednesday, he has been added to the roster. and Brennan Bernardino has been sent down to AAA Tacoma to make room for Cassio on the 26-man roster. So that's really the two pieces of news that have come out thus far in regards to the Mariners. No deadline news, of course, really, no big trade news,

nothing that's actually of note just yet. And of course, the Mariners don't leak. So we're not hearing a lot of things about which players they might be in on, might not be in on. But the market is starting to heat up a little bit. We saw Josh Hader, of course, get traded from the Brewers to the Padres in a fairly surprising deal. Taylor Rogers and Denelson Lemette heading over to Milwaukee headlining that deal. It was a really nice deal for Milwaukee.

Even though that, you know, they're giving up a, you know, one of the best relievers in all of baseball, despite being in first place at the, you know, at the midway point here. but clearly, you know, I mean, they got a haul there. So the reliever market is hot right now. It's going to be expensive. The market in general is going to be very expensive because there aren't that many sellers right now. So they're kind of in the driver's seat here. And so that's probably why we haven't seen a lot of moves here. And it's probably why the Mariners are waiting things out here trying.

I would think that at this point, Colby, and I don't know if you agree with me here, though, that Jerry Depoto might be waiting these things out here to maybe get a bargain on. on deadline day, just try to wait it out, see if these costs, you know, drop at all because, I mean, they're going to have to at some point, I would think, because some of these acts that we're hearing, like J.D. Martinez for a major league piece and some prospects and all this stuff. Like, that's a lot for a rental bat who's primarily a DH. Like, the prices are insane. Does that concern you at all about maybe the Mariners not doing a ton over the next 24 hours or so? No, I would feel pretty confident that they're at least going to get a reliever.

But that, I don't know if they're going to do that or not. To be clear, they absolutely should. And I think we're going to talk about that a little later. But yeah, the ticket prices or the, sorry, the sales prices for these rentals are. So far, they've been okay. You know, Benetendi went for a decent amount, but nothing too crazy. Peralta didn't go for much. Naquin didn't go for all that much.

So I still think you might be able to get a bat like, you know, Naquine, Peralta, somebody in that range. But yeah, the Red Sox asking for, you know, a major league piece and a top five prospect for two months of J.D. Martinez. Get out of here. No sane person is going to give you that price. So we'll see how it goes. You know, we know the Mariners had scouts at the Marlins game

that Pablo Lopez happened to be pitching. It's probably more or less about, you know, they were going to be there anyways. And then they made the Castillo deal. And then they're like, oh, well, you know, still watch Joey Windle and guys like that. So wouldn't read too much into any of that right now. And prices are going to drop here once we get, you know, 12 hours or so to go. Teams will start to be a little more realistic. But, yeah, it's still going to be pricey, particularly for bats because there's just not a lot of, you know, decent bats out there right now.

Yeah. So guys like Brandon Drury, you're probably going to kind of. a little bit more than we initially thought. And there's also the possibility that the Reds could extend jury. That's a report that came out today. I would assume that's just an attempt from the Reds to gain leverage. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think that's all that really is there. I'd be surprised at Brandon Jewry signed in an extension to stay in Cincinnati. I've seen weirder things, of course, specifically with the Rockies who are trying to extend Daniel Bard. that's something, certainly something. Certainly. The Rockies are dumb. Yeah, that's putting it nicely, honestly. Especially after the off, after the off season that they just had,

trading Nolan Aeronado, and then letting Trevor Story walk this past off season, like, and then signing Chris Bryant to that deal. Like, I just don't know what's going on in Colorado there. Anywho, yeah, so it's, right now we're just kind of playing a bit of a waiting game Because, you know, no one really wants to break the ice right now. Obviously, the Mariners kind of set the market at least on the starting pitching front.

But nothing else has happened on that front so far. Frankie Montes is still in Oakland. Nathan Avaldi is still in Boston. You know, other guys that we talked about Pablo Lopez, of course, is still in Miami. Tariq School Bowl is still in Detroit. I know there was a little bit of buzz there with them in Toronto. But right now, like, there haven't been many, many deals. And I would assume by the point that you're listening to the.

this or watching this. Maybe the market has popped off because it's going to have to happen at some point here in the coming hours really, even minutes honestly because it's just the damn has to break. It just has to. It has to. There's no

way that we're going to go through this whole deadline and only a handful of moves are made. This is kind of weird for a deadline in general just to build up to a deadline. Like there haven't been a ton of deals. But the deals that have happened have been like pretty big obviously louis castillo going to seattle andrew penitending going to new york josh hater going to san diego like these are massive deals that are happening we're just

not seeing a ton of like under the radar deals we're not seeing a ton of just like like reliever market is starting to pop off again like i said earlier like with rogers and hater and effros going but like that's been about it like we're not really seeing these like low key deals happening just yet so i guess you know we we just got to wait and see how this all plays out But I would think that Jerry DePoto and company are just kind of waiting it out, seeing where the prices drop, who stays the longest, you know, who stays in their current home the longest and which teams are going to end up getting desperate to move some of their pieces, particularly, you know, rentals, guys that are these teams are going to end up, you know,

letting walk or at least they're facing the risk of letting them walk in free agency for nothing. Like teams are going to want to be able to take advantage of the values that some of these guys have. And so eventually they're going to have to come down on their, asking price. That's just what it is. Or else they're going to get nothing. They're going to get nothing at them. So obviously a lot of injuries have happened for the Mariners.

This past weekend, Julio Rodriguez is on the 10-day IL with a risk contusion. He's going to have more tests done to see if there's any further damage. So fingers crossed on that front.

Ty France's wrist is acting up and he's going to be out for, it seems at least a couple more days. He's hoping to get into a game in New York. Of course, the Mariners starting a three-game set with the Yankees at Yankee Stadium tonight, but

you know, they're very, very much short-handed. And, you know, this offense needs help. As we saw in Houston, this offense needs help. It needs more probability. It needs hitters that can actually take advantage

of, you know, the kind of pitching that the Mariners are going to see in the postseason. And just right now, I don't feel that they have really of it. And it's going to be difficult to obviously supplement that in the trade market, as you said. But I feel like something has to be done. So we'll be talking about that in just a moment. Real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs. As you gear up for fall, you need the right people on your team to help your small business fire on all cylinders.

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podcast that you get notified when each episode premieres. So injuries on injuries on injuries for the. the Mariners right now. They are really, really banged up. We saw Jack Larson make a jump from AA and end up in the starting lineup within about 14 hours, 12 hours

getting noticed, of getting noticed, rather. Good for him, by the way. I'm making his Major League debut. That's really, really cool. MLB debut that I think otherwise probably would have never happened. So that's cool. Good for Jack Larson. That was awesome. But ultimately, the Mariners

not very happy without having to start Jack Larson in the outfield yesterday after Dillan Moore landed on the IL with back spasm. Suleo Rodriguez landed on the IL with a right wrist contusion. Sam Harrodite hit himself in the head with his own helmet and required stitches. And it's really hard not to laugh when I only laugh because it's funny. I'm glad he's okay. I'm glad that he's okay in the end. But yeah.

You kind of get what you deserve sometimes. Rough night for Sam Haggurty. Saturday. I'm going to go out on him and say the worst night of his professional baseball life. Yeah. I think that would that would be pretty safe to assume here. So other than that though, of course, we saw Kyle Lewis get pinch ran for by Carlos Santana, which I think that's, I think that's one of the biggest issues here. Kyle Lewis had an awful series, first of all, at the plane. And second of all, the Mariners felt that Carlos Santana gave him. them a better chance on the base pass than Kyle Lewis.

That's an issue. That's a massive, massive issue. I'm just going to say, Colby, I don't think Kyle Lewis should be on the major league roster, and therefore I think the Mariners need to go out and look at outfield bats here over the next 24 hours. Yeah, he certainly shouldn't be guaranteed at bats, and we've talked about this a little bit. I think we talked about this at the end of our emergency podcast, but like, it's go time. So you can't just say, oh, well, Jesse will figure it out. we'll just keep putting them out there. Well, if you can get a better option, you do it.

And Jesse can figure it out from the bench, you know, or same goes for Santana. And Lewis, you have to throw on that list. Like Kyle Lewis has not played well or hit well since coming back up from the concussion IL. You know, he can't even play a full nine innings. He hasn't done that yet. Now he is D.Hing today. So he has played, I believe, now three of the last four.

So I guess that's good. But you really can't put him out in the outfield more than once or twice. a week. He's just a very limited player and if he's not going to hit, he has no value to you whatsoever because you can't even trust him to run the bases in a close game. So yeah, I don't think it's enough to be like,

oh, well, Kyle Lewis is here, he'll be fine. Lewis has to be a guy that you consider sending down when you call it Mitch Hanigar. You know, even with guys like Toro still on the roster who I think needs to be sent down, Kalnick and Toro, I feel about the same when they come to the plate or sorry a Toro and then Lewis I feel about the same when they come to the

plate so thankfully you know Taylor Tremel started his rehab assignment last night I think he got four full out bats in so he's he's DH last night I suspect he'll be out in the field today Mitch Hanager looks pretty good on his rehab assignment he's in Tacoma I think they're hoping that he's back when they get home from New York so I would suspect that he's back in the lineup on Thursday or Friday against the Angels. So we'll see how often he can play right field. Those two guys should help in theory,

but they're not a guarantee to help. And you have more than two holes to fill. So, yeah, I don't know if I would, I mean, Mariners kind of don't have a choice right now. Lewis gives you a better chance than Jack Larson, for example. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when we start talking about like, oh, well, you have to play Jesse Winker at this stage.

you have to play Carlos Santana, you have to play Kyle Lewis. Like, it sounds to me like what you have to do is make a move. And that means you have to overpay a little bit to do it. So be it. You're in. You've already dove in. You have to find a way to stay afloat. Yeah, you can't back out now.

You already made a huge, you know, as you called it on our emergency pod, an F&A trade with, you know, Luis Castillo. You just, you pushed all your chips into the middle of the table right there. So you can't back up, back out now. that, you know, things are getting a little difficult on you. And so, you know, I apologize for being super reactionary here. But, like, with Kyle Lewis, you know, with Kyle Lewis in general, or specifically, rather, the deadline is tomorrow, you know, so you don't really have time to wait, wait it out with him. You don't have time to, you know, you got to, you got to make a declaration now about what you want to do. What team do you want to be?

And I just feel like you are leaving so much uncertainty there with someone like Kyle Lewis, with even Jesse Winker, as you mentioned, with Carlos Santana, who's been dreadful coming out of the All Star Break, where it's like, yeah, you like these guys, you feel like they can hit, but they're not producing right now. And it's like, you've got to make a decision. You got to make a decision now. Like you can't. Right. Like you're going to have to do some projection here.

You're going to have to weigh like how much of an upgrade is, you know, Brandon Drury or, over this, you know, player X here. But like at this point now that you're in, you are totally committed to this thing for 2022 to, to end the playoff drought and do damage in the playoffs, you got to just, you might have to do something a little reactionary here. You might have to, you know,

maybe Kyle Lewis is okay. Maybe he'll be fine over the next couple months. But right now the signs are that's not going to be the case or at least you cannot bank on that whatsoever. So at that point, it's like, okay, is, is me running that risk more beneficial to me than just trading, you know, a top 10 prospect to go get, I don't, you know, just name an outfielder, right? Like, it doesn't matter. Like, does that actually outweigh that risk?

I don't think it does at this point. I really don't. You kind of sort of, you know, you shot your shot, and it's not that the chamber is now empty. it's just that you know you have you've kind of sort you've kind of started your window aggressively now like you've decided like now we're starting it like this we're in we're in in the next you know five years basically has to be all about making the playoffs and trying to win world series so you can't sacrifice one of those chances just because you ran into some bad luck in particular when you're talking about the things preventing you or the type of players who

might be preventing you from being aggressive on the trade market are like the Taylor Dollar types. Like who cares. It's a number four starter at best. At best Taylor Dollar is Chris Flex and who cares. So you have to be open to everything and that includes training from your major league roster. You have to be careful about that. I mean, like I know Colton Wong is out there right now.

How much of an upgrade is he over Adam Frazier? Numbers are kind of similar this year. Wong has more power this year, but Frazier's been the better defender, believe it or not. which is weird. So it's just one of those things where it's like, yes, there are limits and yes, there is a possibility where the market just gets so far out of hand that it just doesn't really make sense. But I think if you're thinking about this from the mayor's perspective or Jerry to Potos

perspective, imagine that Mitch Hanigar and Taylor Trammell come back and they're fine. Like, Tramel is what he was when he was healthy and Hanager comes back and you get last year's version of Mitch Hanager. let's say both those things happen and both those guys are able to play in the field like five, six times a week. Like you don't need to deach him. You're still a bat short. Like go get that bat. And you can't say, well, it'll be Julio.

Well, what if Julio has a hairline fracture and he's out for a month? What if Ty Francis had gone on the aisle? We're talking about wrist injuries too, by the way. These things tend to linger. They tend to be issues until you get extended time off. So this idea that it's like, oh, well, you know, once everybody gets healthy, we'll be fine. When is the last time the Mariners were 100% healthy and could run out of the the lineup they wanted to.

Opening day. Seriously, opening day. So what are you talking about? And even then, Kyle Lewis wasn't healthy. So it's like... Right. So it's like, you're never going to be healthy. Get that out of your life. What do we do when all these guys are healthy?

Who cares? Get them healthy and then we'll figure it out. Yeah, no. If this whole thing that Jerry is saying about like, oh, we view Mitch Hanigur as the addition, as the deadline edition, the bat, the big bat we need, that's a failure on Jerry to Potos part at this point. at this point.

You can't rely on players who have a history of injuries to not only come back and stay healthy, but to perform. You can't do that. You can't do that. Well, I do think that Mitch Hanager is going to give this team a great boost. While I do think that getting Taylor-Tremel back is going to be a pretty decent boost for this team, especially with the way that he was playing before his injury,

the team needs more. It needs more probability. It needs guys that are producing right now that are healthy, right now. that you can depend on a little bit more. And look, if you got to pay $1.10 to get a half war upgrade over someone, do it. You're in at this point. Like you said, you have, you just, you got to do it. You got to do it at this point.

I don't see, I don't think there's any other way around it, really. I just, right now, we saw what this team looks like. If one of their, one of their top guys either goes down with an injury or starts slumping. against elite pitching, it's bad. It's really, really bad. And no amount of pitching that you go out and add, whether it's Luis Castillo,

whether, you know, maybe they add someone else here over the next 24 hours in Jose Cantana or, you know, Martin Perez, whatever. Yeah. You know, like, whoever it is. Like, you can add all the pitching you want. You got to score runs, though. You got to score some runs with some sort of regularity.

Yeah, you can't win game zero to negative one, right? Yeah. So, and asking any team, any pitching staff, have to give up two runs a night so you can try to win as many three to two games as possible. That's that idea is going to collapse quickly because you're going to burn your bullpen up. You're going to burn your starting pitching up. You have to be able to generate runs, particularly in the regular season. And it's maybe it's not like the one of the big names that's out,

Branden & Drury is probably the biggest name that's linked to Seattle. You know, maybe it's not him or J.D. Martinez, but maybe it's somebody like Nelson Cruz and, you know, Michael A. Taylor or Lane Thomas or somebody who can help you. And that's something that, like you said, you know, if you have to pay like a 10% bonus, then you pay it. Because what we're talking about here is we're not talking about, you know, you're having to give up Cole Young and Harry Ford for any of these guys. So if it costs you Taylor-Dallard and Gabrielle Gonzalez, then, yeah, you know,

You might have to pay that freight. So we'll see how it goes. Jerry's got a little over 24 hours. He's already surprised me once by, you know, being as aggressive as he was on Castillo. I do believe you will add a reliever at some point. But to me, this comes down to the bat. You have to add at least one. And, you know, yesterday I used the Atlanta Braves as an example of a team that lost their star, kind of mid-season.

And they had to scramble and they went out and they got Jock Peterson, Adam Duval, Eddie Rosario and Jorge Salar. And that cost them a bucket of scrubs. We're being honest. And they won a World Series because they're pitching. And because they had enough depth in their lineup that they could score enough runs to make it work. I'm not saying Jerry has to go get four guys,

but he needs to go find his Jock Peterson. He needs to go find his Eddie Rosari at least. At least he missed that. And maybe it's Jock Peterson. And it could be Jock Peter, actually Jock Peterson. Yes. So we'll see. We'll see you. Like, I don't know, like, how serious. Like, are you going to give up Taylor Tremel for Jack Peterson? Probably not. I don't know. I would consider it at this point. I think you're at that point. Maybe you're at a point of it too or something like that. Like, yeah. So we'll see. 24 hours ago. Well, yeah. Like I said, I think you're at that point. So, you know, bats, of course, are pretty hard to come by. That's the thing that we've heard all over the place. But I think there's. you know, you already mentioned some. I think there's some others out there

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So, bats are going to be a little bit tough to come by here because so, you know, so very few teams are selling, but there are options out there for the Mariners. Let's not make any mistake about that. I think there are a lot of options, actually, for the Mariners. And there's a lot of ways that they can get creative to land those options.

One of them, of course, is the Barroners getting in on the Juan Soto deal, being a third team, not getting Juan Soto, but maybe getting someone like Jake Cronomworth from San Diego. I'm just saying. maybe there's maybe there's someone in St. Louis that they might might like. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Tommy Edmund, baby. Tommy, Tommy Edmund, baby. Tommy Edmund, obviously. But, you know, there might be a way to do that,

right? There's obviously going to be some guys out of Detroit, even though no one on that team is hitting right now, but like maybe Jonathan's scope is someone that you can bank on, right? Like maybe that's someone that you can take a little bit of, a chance on for cheap. Somebody with a track record and it at least shows that you're trying at the very least. Or of course you maybe you want to spend a little bit here and go after someone like Eric

Haas, you know, but I doubt it. I doubt it, but like there are certainly like there's some big fish here that you can go after that are kind of like under the radar big fish like guys that would like significantly help the Mariners but like not a lot that people really know about. JD Davis is another guy that got off to a rough start this year, but it started to turn it around with the Mets. And obviously the Mariners were at that Marlins game yesterday and the day before. But the Marlins were also playing the Mets.

And, you know, everyone's assuming that, oh, they're just looking at the Marlins players. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think J.D. Davis is someone that could be of interest of the Mariners. He's very Thai-Francish and that he doesn't really have a place to play in the infield. Not well. Yeah, not well, at least. He can stand there. He can stand at third base.

He can stand at LaField. Everyone could stand at third base or LaField. Right. And the idea that contenders don't trade with each other, that's dead. Today, they just traded Hater. The Brewers just traded Hader to the Padres. They're just good chance they meet up in the playoffs at some point. So, you know, the Mariners have done it.

They traded last year with the Astros. They were both contenders. So, yeah, it's not a big deal. I guess, you know, you're going to scout the match. You might as well ask about Jeff McNeil. I'm just saying. And by the way, what about Miguel and Duhar? 27 years old still has obviously, you know, had some struggles at the major league level.

The Yankees don't have really any room for him at the at the major league level. But right now when AAA is slashing 299, 345-502 with a 122 WRC plus. Maybe that's someone that, you know, again, I'm talking. about cheap alternatives here and Duhar might be interesting and do you find him more because like we also don't know how long how long is Dillamore's back going to keep him out we don't know that just yet we don't know exactly what that's going to be like you should be looking to upgrade from anyways so sure I think Kansas City makes a lot of sense here with Merrifield or Michael Taylor I think either one makes a lot of sense Merrifield added bonus that he can actually

play second base too So you have your center fielder for when Julio's out, and then you have your second baseman, and a guy who could also play in the corners for Mitch or Winker, and you need them. So I still think Winker makes a tremendous amount of sense here. I think Michael A. Taylor makes a lot of sense. I think Taylor is going to be pretty pricey.

Like, honestly, Kansas City might ask for Emerson Hancock, and I don't know if that's a ridiculous ask by them, because you get Taylor for next year as well, and then he's having a very good year. So I think Kansas City makes a lot of sense here. I think Boston, probably not. for JD because that's a ridiculous asking price, but I think Kiki Hernandez makes a lot of sense here.

He's supposed to be back in August, by the way. Yeah, a lot of playoff experience there. Can play second, can play center, really play anywhere you need him to. He's not been good this year, but overall his track recruit is. He's a pretty good player. He's not great. Again, we're not talking about going out and getting the Luis Castile of bats here. We're talking about make smart upgrades where you can.

Don't be afraid to pay, you know, a 10% tax on whatever. as you want, particularly if you have the player beyond this year, which seems to be where most of the expenses coming from is the extra year of control is adding a lot of weight to these offers. Because when you look at the Ben Attendees, that wasn't a huge overpay. That was fine. It wasn't as light as people who made it look, but it's fine. And you look at Peralta and you look at some of these other rental bats, they're not really going for that much, all things considered. So what about Oakland, Ramon Laureano? Seth Brown.

Seth Brown, you know, first base, D.H can play in the outfield a little bit, has a ton of power, doesn't get on base, doesn't walk. You know, that's kind of the downside with him, but he has a tremendous amount of power there. Right. There's not going to be a ton of, like, perfect fits here. Chad Pender. Yeah. Another one. So, yeah, it's just, so you're not going to find a ton of fits.

Texas, I think might be go get Charlie Culberson or somebody like that. Yeah. Maybe even Brad Miller. I know these guys, like I said, we're not talking about, like, going out and getting this. bona fide star that that bat does not exist outside of Juan Soto and I still have doubts whether Soto gets traded so um we're just talking about like go find these minor upgrades and and some of these yeah you're taking a you're taking a lottery ticket you're hoping that they turn it around for you and this is where your analysts come in big or this is where your coaches come in big

your scouts come a big like this is a total team effort uh because you might have to get creative and take a shot on somebody who's not performing right now and hope that he turns around maybe Joey Gallo. I doubt it. But maybe that's a guy. I don't know. A lot of folks are obviously talking about Ian Hap, but what about Patrick Wisdom? Former Mariners hit 19 home runs this year. You can play some third, can play some first.

He can d.H a little bit. How about Raphael Ortega? Also for the Cubs. Guy who can play in the outfield, you know, has a little bit of speed, his stolen eight bases this year, 233, 323, 3, 23, 3, 3354 92 WRC plus

It's not great But it's someone that He helps And he also makes you a little bit faster as well Which is kind of a key thing here for the Mariners Especially with Julio and Dillam Morgon Like they have no speed They have no speed what to speak

You're sending Jared Kalnick and Adam Frazier to play center field For the next 10 days at least Yeah Or take a helps Yeah So like yeah I just again I'm not asking Jerry to go on Like if if Drury is like we want Emerson Hancock

you're not getting Drury, then fine. I'm not getting Drury. That's fine. I don't care if Drury had another year, absolutely. But he doesn't. But Colby, what about an extension? Refer to Friday's episode, segment two, to hear my thoughts on extensions.

Yeah, it's like I said, I would expect, I would be disappointed in Jerry if he didn't add something. And I'm even okay adding like a lottery ticket. Obviously, I would prefer, you know, more of a sure thing, more of a safer ad. but if it has to be a Joey Gallo because your analysts think that they can help him

by making a tweak or something like that, then so be it. But you have to add somebody offensively because at the very least, you have to let the clubhouse know you still believe in them and just saying like, oh, don't worry guys, Mitchell will be back on Friday. That's,

yeah. Hey, what about G. Manchoi? The raise have been open to trading him, according to Ken Rosenthal. I think that a part of that might be trying to free up 40 man spots as well because the rays are obviously one of those teams that always has a 40 man crunch come the winner

but this year, you know, Choi is slash 257, 355, 455, 415 with a 125 WRC plus. He's hit eight home runs. He's an upgrade over Carlos Santana, if anything. Right. And Santana is definitely one of those guys that doesn't need to get at bats. and by the way, I'm still convinced that Ty France is going to end up on the IL at some point. So not a bad option.

He's actually, I think, I mean, maybe it's just because he's a bigger guy, so he gave him a lot of, like, breaks over there. But I think he's actually a pretty decent first baseman defensively as well. So, yeah, I'd be down. I think he would help. And, you know, if you're not going to go out and get like a big, you know, J.D. Martinez type, then maybe a platoon between him and Kyle Lewis, is something you can do in, you know, September and whatever.

So, yeah, I think that'd be, that'd certainly be a fun one. I'd say that. Yeah, for sure. Just, you know, the major league for major league part is always hard. But, yeah, you know, maybe the Mariners have to, we talked about this on Friday. Maybe the mariner do have to trade Marco Gonzalez or Chris Flexen to get the bat they

they want. Or maybe they have to trade Penn Murphy or somebody like that that they really don't want to, but. Yeah. Well, because I think, too, right, like if the Mariners do go out and they do get Jose Cantana and it seems like they might still be involved

in the starting pitching market like if they get one of those guys you kind of have to trade what a Marco or Flexx. Right. Just based on what pitching's going for controllable pitching you probably get something decent for Marco

and flexing. Nothing like earth shattering but like you get a guy. You could go and get your bat. Yeah, you can go get your you know like I don't know could you get Whitmerfield for Chris Flexon?

Maybe. Maybe. you know so I think there's a lot of like while you know it's easy to say that there aren't a ton of hitters available you know this is the whole point of the of the segment here is while you know we hear this narrative that there aren't a ton of bats that fit etc I think there are a lot of ways that they I think that's oversimplifying it because I do think that there are ways for the mariners to get creative here and realistically get a bat or two and really I don't think that two should be off the time. table here whatsoever. It's just the over reliance on guys getting healthy and being able to produce and stay healthy.

That's just a little too much uncertainty for my liking for how much the Mariners have gone in with the Luis Castillo trade. Had they not made that trade and they were in the position that they were in before making that trade, I could

maybe justify that a little bit more, but now that they have made their proclamation that they have made their statement that they have made their stance clear, you just you can't overrely on a lot of things breaking your way because that's very much what

the Mariners did in the Canoe Cruz, Seeger, Felix Iwakuma era. You know, it's just we're going to hope that Ryan Healy figures it out. We're going to hope that Logan Moore or not Logan Morrison, that's the Jack C era. But you know,

that we're hoping that some of these guys Domingo Santana, the assessments of the world. It's just, you know, like we're going to help a lot right now. Yeah, but we're going to hope that, you know,

all these things that we're banking on, they break our way. And it doesn't even have to be with acquisitions because all the guys that we listed there were acquisitions, but even just, you know, in this, just bringing guys back from injury

and just thinking like, oh yeah, they're going to play to their 100 percentile. Like, that's just, that's not a plausible plan here. That's not a legitimate plan. at all. So they have to do more. They have to do more. They have to do more. They absolutely do it. We'll

see what happens. Like I said, I will reserve like grading until Wednesday show because we'll be off air when the trade deadline passes and all that stuff. And I don't like doing grades anyways, but like if Jerry doesn't come away with a bat of some kind, the highest I can see giving him is like a B because he did make the Castillo trade. And the Castillo trade I would have made today, even if I knew Julio and entire like, even with the current information I have, I'm still doing that trade, absolutely. So we'll see. But we'll leave it on this note.

G-Man Choy tie, 77th percentile, now it's above average. There you go. Big dude can pick it. So there you go. Nice. I always love a big dude who can pick it and also can hit. So.

Dayholie. Yeah. Dayhulli. Greatest mariner of all time. Not very good. I know you agree with that statement. Yeah. Well.

The 65th best player on his, on the, You can't say this when we're running out of time. But it's accurate. You can't spread this propaganda. It's accurate by F4. F4. F4, who cares about F4? Like 63rd, most valuable player on that 2016 Mariners team.

I didn't know they had to use 64 players that year, but apparently they did. So, not very good. Friendship. That's going to do a far show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown Marinus podcast. Not exactly sure what our plan is for tomorrow, but we'll keep you posted on Twitter. Be sure to follow us on Twitter at L.O underscore Mariners. For Colby

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