Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Which of the Top 50 Trade Deadline Candidates Fit the Mariners?!
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Who's a yes and who's a no for the mayors among the many names that could be available at the deadline?
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so we had different plans for today's show but the uh the mariners are obviously in a rain delay at the
time of this recording uh maybe they're out of it maybe they've already played by the time you're
watching this hopefully they're actually able to get the game in after waiting all this time uh but yeah
we're going to pivot so we're going to talk some trade deadline we're going to talk some
draft. It's going to be a pretty chill laid-back show. We're going to start with some deadline talk.
We're going to pretty much do what we did on the Patreon show yesterday, which was we went through
Jeff Passon's top 50 trade deadline candidate list over on ESPN.com. Put the link to that article
in the description as well if you want to read along with us. It's free for everyone to read over on ESPN.
And we're just going to go through all these names, or at least most of them, and just say yes, no, maybe on if they're a fit or not for the Mariners.
So let's just hop right into it.
Number one on the list for Jeff Passon is Alex Bregman, third baseman for the Boston Red Sox.
He puts his chances of being traded at just 10%, so really low.
There's obviously a lot of other complications that come along with the potential of trading for Bregman,
specifically when it comes to the Seattle Mariners.
The money is really the biggest one.
But we'll talk about that in a second.
But in general, just like in a vacuum,
like this is the guy for me for the Mariners.
Like he checks off so many boxes for the M's.
Yeah.
I think unfortunately it's a no,
not because of fit,
but because of the money.
And unfortunately,
that matters a lot.
And even though you'd only be paying him,
like 35%, 40% of his remaining salary for this year,
I don't think ownership would even okay that because that's still 10, 11 million bucks.
So I don't think you're going to see that.
There's also some deferred money involved.
There's some opt-ins, which are a little worrisome,
but not really because he's almost certainly going to opt out,
especially if, you know, he's playing for Seattle.
But yeah, I mean, like, in terms of just like player-wise,
he's the perfect player.
Playoff experience plays a position of need.
You know he hits a T-Mobile park.
He's,
even though he'll be,
he would be the best player that was moved.
He's still a rental,
so the cost isn't going to be exorbitant.
Like,
he checks all the boxes.
It's just that little bit about the money
that we know ownership won't spend.
So unfortunately,
for that reason,
it's a no,
even though it should be a yes.
Yeah.
Coming in in number two,
on Passons list is Jared Duran, another Red Sox player outfield outfielder for Boston, 25% chance
of being traded, pass and put him at. I'm personally out on Duran. How do you feel about him?
Yeah, I'm in between. If you can get a really good deal on him. Yeah. Fine. But I don't think you're
going to get a good deal on him from Boston's perspective. So it's probably ultimately,
I just think the cost is going to be too high. I think they're going to try and get
you know, the value of a 7-1 player with three years of club control left.
And he's only done that once.
And it's a bit like the Brian Reynolds thing from a few years ago where it's like, yeah,
he had one six-win season, but you look at the rest of his career, like a two, two-and-a-half-one player.
Like, he's not bad.
He's just not a star.
He's not worth paying star-level prices for.
And right now, because Duran has only done a star thing once, it's,
I'm not interested in paying for star level prices for a guy who's been a star one season.
Obviously, there are some off-the-field things that they had to deal with last year that would make them pretty polarizing addition anyways.
But yeah, I think if you get the right deal, like if you think you're getting like, you know, 25% off, you know, type of deal, then maybe.
But I don't think the Red Sox are going to do that.
So I'm in between, but more than likely it's also a no.
Yeah, I'm a no.
Because again, this is a guy that was almost a seven-win player last year, which is great.
But this year, he's played 81 games and he's only worth 0.6F4.
He's significantly regressed defensively.
He isn't really hitting for any power.
He's still making things happen on the base pass, but he's like a 93 WRC plus this season.
I just don't think that his particular skill set,
is what the Marys
need to push a lot of their chips in on
at this deadline.
I just don't think he's enough of a fit.
Could he be better than Luke Rayleigh?
Sure.
I don't think he is right now.
And for that reason,
I wouldn't aggressively pursue him,
especially for what it's likely going to cost.
Because the Red Sox, as they should,
are still going to try and sell teams on the idea that you are requiring.
At the very least, maybe not a seven-win player,
but at least a four-five-win player.
That's why you're trying to bank.
on here and you get them for three and a half years
I'm good I'm good
that's just going to get too pricey for
what Duran has been this year
so coming in
at number three
Sandy Alcantra
and number four Freddie Peralta
couple starting pitchers
Peralta having a really good year
Alcantra not so much but
there's a lot upside there
former side young winner obviously
the stuff is still pretty good
so like if the mayor's had a fix for
like if they felt that they maybe had the solution there, would you be interested?
Yes.
Yeah.
And then Peralta.
Yes, definitely Peralta.
Yeah, it's it seems counterintuitive that the Mariners should spend assets on their rotation.
But a couple of just straight up backs.
The Mariners rotation hasn't been very good this year.
And there's explanations for that.
There's reasons for that.
But by and large, rotation hasn't been what it needs to be.
would adding one of these guys help?
Yeah, because it would push Emerson Hancock out of the rotation,
push them back into a depth roll.
And the added bonus, both of those guys,
is that you also get them for 2026.
And if your plan is to trade Luis Castillo this winter,
your plan can't be to just rely on Emerson Hancock
to replace Luis Castillo.
And these guys both would slide in.
They'd be, you know, they're both mid-rotation starters.
Alcontra can't be more.
He's just not right now.
although he has been pitching better.
But yeah, I think it makes sense for 2025.
You can push Hancock, you know, out of the rotation and then maybe put him in the bullpen.
I know we've talked about that a little bit.
And, you know, it's going to cost a little bit.
But I would be in on a controllable starting pitcher who has a pretty high floor of at least being a number three type of guy.
I would be in on that idea, even with the cost that's probably associated with it.
So I would prefer parole.
because he's pitching better right now.
But again, Alcantara has been really good recently,
and he does have the track record.
So, yeah, I'd be fine with either.
Yeah, Alcantra is one of my personal favorite non-mariner pitchers,
so I would be super down for that.
Peralta, not sure he's going to get traded because of Brewers are actually pretty good this year,
but we'll see.
I don't know.
They're one of those teams that are just a lot of jostraded.
Yeah.
They're one of those teams that it doesn't really matter what situation there.
and they're kind of like Cleveland and Tampa Bay
where it's just like if we feel that this is the best deal
we can possibly get right now, we're going to do it.
And if we feel that that's the best for our organization
moving for it, we'll do it.
Gino Suarez, yes, don't need to talk about it, obviously.
Yeah, that's 100% yes.
Seth Lugo, Zach Gallen, Merrill Kelly, shut up.
Is it though?
Any of those three?
So yeah, this is where things get a little interesting.
I don't know if I want to pay top,
rate for a rental starting pitcher.
I will pay a top rate for a
controllable starting pitcher.
All three of those guys that I mentioned are
rentals. Yeah. So
I mean, again, if the cost
is right, sure, you take a shot on any of them,
but based on what
it's probably going to cost to rent those guys,
no, I don't
think, like, I would rather spend less on a
slightly worse pitcher like, I don't know,
an Andrew Heaney guy, like we've talked
about a little bit here. Yeah. If I'm going to go to the rental
starting pitcher route, I'll go that, that
of the spectrum and I'll use my prospect capital on rental bats.
If I'm going to, you know, really spend some prospects on rentals, I prefer them to be bats.
Yeah.
Josh and Eler, Ryan O'Hern, both of those guys.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've talked about them enough that we don't really need to talk more about that.
Marcel Azuna is on here, 25% chance of being traded, pass and list him as a list of
the Mariners as a possibility for him.
He obviously has the domestic violence case that just cannot be ignored.
when we talk about Marcel Ozuna from a baseball standpoint, just pure baseball standpoint,
he would help.
Like, he's been a really good hitter.
He's regressed a little bit this year, but he's still been a really good hitter.
And at the end of the day, the mayor's just need bats.
But, yeah, there's obviously off the field stuff that can't be ignored when we talk about Ozuna.
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before we talk more about these trade candidates on Jeff Passon's top 50 list over on ESPN.
Let's give you a quick update as to where we're at on our Feeding America fundraiser.
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We have a bunch of new donations since the last time we talked about this.
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Just saying.
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Dave, you know, take that for what it's worth.
We'll ignore the fact that like five people donated yesterday in the marriage loss, but whatever.
Yeah, those count towards today's game, which...
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We'll see if it's getting blood.
It probably is by the time that you're watching this.
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Okay.
All right.
So let's get back into this list.
I've got a bulk of relievers here.
High, high profile relievers.
Felix Matista, John Duran, and Manuel Class A.
As much as I love those guys and as significant of impact they would make in this Mariners bullpen, I'm out.
It's going to get way too expensive.
Yeah, I'll shop a tier below that.
Yeah.
I'll let the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Phillies of the world go go shopping that market.
Right.
I mean, again, anybody, any reliever that's going to cost me a premium prospect, I'm out.
Yeah.
Because I'll take another, you know, I'll take another Garcia for what he costs.
That would certainly help.
Hopefully this one stays healthy.
Yeah.
But, yeah, the top of the market guys, not for what they're going to cost.
And I think all those guys have multiple years of club control, too.
So it costs even more.
So I'm out.
Cedric Mullins.
Is he better than Luke Rayleigh?
He's better than Dom Kanzone.
Or is he?
I don't know.
Ties he.
I think he offers a better skill set than Kanzone as a fourth outfielder.
So sure, but there's obviously a very, there's a limitation on the price I'm willing to pay for that, though.
How many left, left-hand hitting out?
outfielders do you need?
Yeah.
Because right now the Mariners have two and then Master Boney's on the bench.
Yeah, you're moving on from one of Canzon Aureli if you are trading for a left-handed hitting outfielder.
Right, which, I mean, again, might not be that big of a deal.
And Mullen certainly helps you on the basis.
He helps you in the field.
He got off to a really good start this year, but he struggled as of late.
And he's kind of more of a platoon bat anyway.
So, yeah, it's one of those ones like, sure, is it the price cheap enough?
then okay
but yeah it's kind of
he's kind of one of those in between guys right now
yeah Ryan McMahon
no making too much money he's a course merchant
I'm out
Pete Fairbanks yeah totally
yeah yeah
because you get him not just for this year but also next year
and I don't think that he's going he's in that tier below
the Bautises and the classes in the world so
yeah I think Fairbanks is a guy that maybe
you can pair with like you know
Yandi Diaz or someone like that.
But the raise right now are winning.
So who knows, but also they're, again,
they're one of those teams that, yeah,
if it makes sense for them to trade those guys,
then they'll just,
they'll do it no matter what situation they're in in terms of the standings.
Rollis Chapman,
another situation like Marcel Azuna,
where he would help you,
but there's obviously,
you know,
off the field stuff there that makes me feel a bit uneasy
about bringing them into the fold.
It's typically the type of thing
mariner's have avoided yeah and the marries have also yeah kind of steered clear of of guys like that uh louis robert
junior i'm out like i get the idea and you might get him for basically free
and if that's the case then fine whatever like i'm not complaining but if that's like let's say
like that's their their big ad quote unquote i don't like that at all yeah because
It's like you have to hope that you have the fix in place and that you're going to be able to implement that fix within a week or two because you need them to help you not just, you know, in October.
Like you need to get to October.
You need them to help you get to October.
Yeah.
I mean, the fact that the White Sox have already publicly said like, we'll help pay down his contract.
Like that tells you what the market is.
Yeah.
For Robert.
So I think if you get him cheap enough, fine.
I'm in.
And if he sucks, you're opting out of that.
contract. So he's a rental. Yeah. Right. And that's why it's important to get him cheap enough.
So like I take a flyer on him with a prospect like Michael Morales. Yeah. But not much better to be that I just I don't have enough faith that he's going to help me. But yeah, like there's definitely a point where it's like, okay, fine, that's worth the risk as like the second or third guy that, well, probably the third guy you bring in at the deadline.
So yeah, I guess technically I would call him a bit of a tweeter.
Yeah.
Taylor Ward, yeah, red-handed hitting outfielder,
but the mayor is still haven't traded with the Angels since Jerry to Poto join the organization.
So until that ends, I'll, you know, I'll believe it when I see it.
If the Angels of the Mayors make a trade so long as the Poto is involved.
Nolan Aronado, same conversation that we had this winner, the deferrals and all that,
just make it really complicated contract-wise.
and he also has continued to decline.
So I think the mayors,
even though they're listed as a fit here by passing,
I don't think they're going to look into that.
Louis Severino,
that makes no sense for the mayors.
Ryan Halsley,
I don't know.
You probably have to give up a really good prospect for a rental reliever.
So you want to give up Las Montes for 15 innings of Ryan Helsley?
Yeah, especially when you're not even,
that I'm out.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially when you're not even.
even in like prime playoff position right now.
Like I think you still hold a wildcard spot as we speak today.
But there's like six other teams fighting for that same spot.
And you just keep on falling further behind the Astros.
So no, that's that's not a risk I'm willing to take.
Not for two months of Ryan Helsley.
Maybe if you were in first place.
But where you are right now, no.
Yeah.
Tyler Malley, Zach Eflin, those guys are pretty much in the same bucket as like Gowan and Kelly and Lugo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Dola Garcia would be fun.
He's still hitting the hell out of the ball.
He's just not putting the ball over the wall.
His launch angle this year, his average launch angle is significantly higher than it's ever been.
So he's flying out and popping out more.
Yeah.
I mean, he's not hitting the hell out of the ball, meaning he's getting a lot of hits.
Yeah, I mean, like he's just hitting it.
Yeah, he's hitting a hard.
Yeah.
Whoopty-do.
If those don't turn into hits, it doesn't really matter.
But plus defender in right field, plus arm.
Him and Randy and Julio are pretty darn good friends.
And it would definitely be fun to have all three of them in the outfield.
Yeah.
I'm worried about what the cost would be, though, because you have to get production.
Yeah.
I mean, would you rather pay what you think it would take to get Garcia or pay what you think it would take to get Luis Robert?
Probably.
I don't know.
I don't think Garcia's going to cost that much.
The fact that you're hesitated.
Because Garcia's going to get non-tendered this winter.
So I don't think he's going to cost really anything.
Well, yeah, but the Rangers aren't going to try and sell them like that.
So especially why there's still fringe playoff contenders.
So, yeah, the fact that you're hesitating tells me that you probably should be saying no to Garcia.
Garcia is more a guy that I think we'll talk a lot about as maybe taking a flyer on him once he's non-tendered this winter.
Yeah.
Redetmers, Walker Beeler, Nick Martinez, Eric.
fettie any of those guys stand up yeah no uh all right i'm just gonna speed run through these final 20
names andrew heaney just tell me yes or no yes ever cabrera sure okay rees hoskins maybe maybe i'm a maybe yeah uh
uh zack letell former mariners farm hand yeah yeah Tyler anderson no no no okay uh Ramone urias
yeah yeah yeah
Hazel Sanchez is just too redundant with Rayleigh and Canzon
yeah uh Jake Bird
yeah I like Jake Bird yeah
Luis Arias would be funny but it won't happen
yeah yeah uh Isaiah kinder Falafa
yeah sure uh Kyle Finnegan
Yep
Chris Martin
yeah he's been really good this year yeah
uh Mike Sorobes
I'm actually really interested in Soroka and putting him back in the bullpen.
He's been starting this year, but he was really good at all the bullpen last year.
So maybe put him back in the bullpen.
10 million bucks.
So it's a bit of a pricey ad at the deadline.
But yeah, I mean, in theory.
Yeah.
Tomoyuki Sagano.
No.
Yeah.
Phil Meaton.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
Melio Pagan.
Sure.
Yep.
Yon Mankata.
we know the mayor has liked him this off season and he's hitting but it's the angels so
that's probably that's the hang up yeah uh Shelby miller sure if it doesn't cost too much
did a Santana sure if it doesn't cost too much uh Stephen matt's been a pretty good uh lefty
uh the bullpen I don't know how much money is making them he's making like 10 12 million bucks
yeah he's still he's still on that contract that big contract that he signed right yeah
yeah yeah all right well there you go uh we are going to
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So, you know, we've had Aram-Layton on here.
We've had Oliver Bachter on here.
We've had Joe Doyle on here just yesterday to talk all about the mayor's draft,
what the Mariners are going to do at pick number three here in the next,
what, two and a half weeks, right?
We're getting pretty close.
And honestly, after talking about,
Talking to you all those guys, I feel more confused than ever about what the marries are going to do.
And it kind of seems like the mariners are still a bit confused as to what they're going to do as well.
So how do you feel after we've talked to all those guys?
Oh, significantly worse.
The sky is falling, basically.
Right.
When you hear things like the Mariners hate that they pick three this year,
Yeah.
It's not inspiring.
Not great.
They're going to have to pick somebody.
But yeah, it just honestly, it sounds like they're playing who let's make a deal.
And whichever one of their, you know, half dozen plus guys that they're considering at three is one to make the best deal with them.
That's who they're going to take.
So, you know, it's kind of like, oh, I like Witherspoon.
I like Parker.
I like, you know, it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
who's going to take the least amount of money
is how to handle pick three.
Yeah, honestly, after talking to Joe,
I kind of feel like the pick might end up being
Steel Hall or Daniel Pierce.
Yeah, imagine you'd save quite a bit of money on those two.
And again, just to reiterate, when we say save money,
we don't mean that's money going back into the pockets of John Stanton.
No, no.
It is money that we are reallocating for later in the draft.
Yeah, yeah, let's make that clear.
When, so how much money are the mayor is getting,
a little under 18 million.
Okay.
That's not Major League Baseball writing the mayor as a check for $18 million and go in here.
Here's what you can spend all the draft.
No, that's money that the mayor has already have.
That is just this is what you are allowed to spend in the draft.
You've been set aside.
And if you exceed that number, you know, you incur penalties, right?
Yes.
If you go over 5%, then you start losing draft picks and blah, blah, blah.
So yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So again, it's, hey, let's save a little money here.
at three, like if we think the difference between the 10th best player and the third best player
is zero.
Yeah.
But the difference in the money is a million five.
Well, now we can spend, we could take the, you know, 2.5 million or whatever the slot is for 35 and we could offer 3.5 million.
And maybe take one of those guys that is going in the 20s and just talk them down to like,
hey, we'll give you, you know, pick 18 money or whatever it is.
So, yeah, yeah, I think most of you guys know that.
I just like to reiterate that.
It's a salary cap.
Very easy way.
It's a salary cap.
It's just to make sure that the teams that will spend a lot of money can't just
dominate the draft.
Right.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Again, I think most of you know that, I'm sure.
But anytime we talk about the Mariners saving money, it, I understand why some people would
jump to like the cheap.
Red, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Not in this case.
Not in this case.
reallocating the money really is more than saving the money but whatever yeah i think the barons have
pretty much spent all their bonus pool every single time so i don't i mean yeah they they they
ever come in under it's like a hundred thousand dollars they're not risking the PR nightmare
of you know of all the accusations that would come with it to save a hundred thousand dollars
it's not happening yeah yeah so uh i i just i don't really know what they're going to do at
again I kind of feel like it's going to be
Pierce or Hall if really the most important thing to them
is to just save as much as possible for the later rounds
but maybe they're able to strike up a deal
a good enough deal on Jojo Parker
but like Joe mentioned you know the Marlins
like Jojo I forget what other team he said
really likes Jojo that are like right behind the mirrors
and they pick like seven or eight
yeah so you can
still offer him like number six money and save a million bucks yeah and he would still get more
than if he signed with the marlins i mean the marlins could always go overslaught but well that's yeah
that's what i was saying it was like maybe the marlins are willing to go overslaught on joe to get him
to get them there but uh yeah um i don't know if you if you just had to make a prediction right now
who are they taking on number three um i would have said our kett before we talk to joe yeah
Um, but the fact that Joe isn't sure if Arquette is actually one of the guys that the Mariners really like, uh, when Joe says something specifically about the Mariners, I listen.
Because I know what kind of connection he has, uh, with that, with that group. So, um, yeah, it probably a prep shortstop.
So, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm still going to say Parker for now. Yeah.
I would say like if the nationals go off the wall because it does seem like Kate Anderson's going to be the guy there I pick one.
But if they instead go Ethan Holiday or Seth Hernandez or maybe they take Ivo at number one, whatever.
Just they take anyone not named Kate Anderson and then maybe the angels go Liam Doyle.
I would assume that of Cade falls to two.
The angels are going to take him.
But let's say Cade gets three.
I think Cade's the pick for the Marys.
I don't think they would pick someone else with him on the board.
That was my roundabout way of saying that.
He's not on their board.
They would pay a full slot for him,
but they're not going to get that chance.
Yeah, but knowing that he is most likely,
like 99% probably not going to be there at three.
Yeah, I don't know.
Jojo Parker maybe,
but I'm kind of starting to lean haul or Pierce.
Yeah, Eli Willits, another guy.
Yeah, we just haven't heard anything really about him in the mayor.
I haven't heard of the holiday either.
Yeah, it kind of seems like Ethan Holliday is going to go to Colorado,
which makes a lot of sense because of his dad's relationship with that organization and all that.
Sure.
My guess is Colorado's probably already got an oversawed deal.
I agree to there as well.
So, yeah.
Yeah, the Ike Irish thing is interesting.
It's kind of like the Heston-Cyrstad thing, though.
that the Orioles tried a few years ago
and it's just like
cool if it works but
look what housing Kirstad is doing right now
yeah yeah
so I mean yeah
and Irish is really he's he's a bad guy
like it's you're not going to get anything from the club
and I really haven't seen anybody
who thinks he can catch much long term
so I don't know maybe
maybe you get Kyle Schwerber out of him
nor maybe you get Heston Kirstad
that's yeah yeah yeah that that's kind of the risk and the reward that you get out of him so yeah i i do
think it'll be a prep shortstop yeah but yeah i don't know which one what's your preference
i think my preference is still iva um my preference would be kate anderson um well yeah yeah
let's let's take him out of the equation because he's most likely not going to be there
I think my preference would be
whichever one of the young shortstops
I can save the most money with
because
I think Parker and Willits
and
who's the other one
but do you think with
you know again they have the most money
of any team in the straps
do you think they don't necessarily need to save money
can't they still knock this draft down
the park.
No,
I mean,
sure,
but they need to say money somewhere.
They really want to,
you know,
do what the Guardians did last year,
which should be the goal based on everybody we've talked to.
The Guardians went under slot in like round three and in round five.
They drafted some college seniors and then they reallocated that money to draft some,
you know,
third round talented high schoolers in the ninth round and pay them.
So they do need to save some money because the slot value is literally just.
if you pay everybody's slot, that's your entire bonus pool.
Yeah.
So I think they do need to save a little bit of money here and there.
And they can do that in later rounds.
They don't have to do it in the first round,
but it's just the first round where you're going to save the most.
Well, if they took Iva, too, couldn't they save at least a little bit of money?
Taking him in theory?
Yeah, I mean, in theory, but I don't know.
You can save more.
Yeah.
We're not privy to those conversations.
Yeah.
Yeah, basically anybody you take at three,
is almost certainly just going to sign with you, though,
because it's highly unlikely that they're going to make more money.
They're going to get more money than even an underslot deal of three.
They're probably not going to make that money elsewhere,
and they're probably not going to get picked higher than three if they go to school.
There's also guarantees in place with the first round selections, though, right?
Isn't that like a new rule?
I think Joe mentioned something like that.
If you go to the combine, you have to be offered 80% of slot wherever you're drafted.
And I think first round picks in general, you have to offer them at least 80% of slot.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So it's not like you can take Daniel Pierce at three and get him to take, you know,
five million bucks or whatever.
No, but I mean, 20% off of $9 million is still 2.
or it's still $1.8 million, you know, so that's quite a bit you can do there.
But yeah, I think they're just going to take a prep, a prep shortstop.
I think Parker sounds like their type of guy.
He kind of reminds me a little bit of Emerson,
a little bit of Cole Young,
where it's kind of a pretty advanced hit tool for the age.
And then you're kind of hoping the power follows.
So I still think Parker makes a lot of sense.
But yeah, overall, I think it's probably going to be a prep shortstop,
be my guess.
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