Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Why the Mariners Should Bump Up Bryan Woo Into Padres Series

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Ty and Colby discuss Bryce Miller's trip to the injured list, why the Mariners should bump up Bryan Woo to pitch in the Padres series, and the keys for the club to survive its upcoming long road trip.Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Wonderful PistachiosLooking for a snack that’s both delicious and nutritious? Get snackin’ and get crackin’ with the snack that packs a protein punch. Visit WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more.Supply HouseJoin the TradeMaster program today at SupplyHouse.com/TM and start ordering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical supplies with just a few clicks. Plus, use promo code S-H-5 for 5% off your first order. That’s SupplyHouse.com!UpworkVisit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free to connect with top talent and grow your business today! Just IngredientsVisit JustIngredients.us/Bryce-Harper and use code LOCKEDONMLB for 20% off your order! And for more wellness tips, follow @just.ingredients on Instagram.Monarch MoneyTake control of your finances with MonarchMoney. Use code LOCKEDONMLB at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLBfor $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelRight now, new customers can get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in BONUS BETS when your first FIVE DOLLAR BET WINS! Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of the NBA.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bryce Miller has officially landed on the IL. I'll tell you how the Mariners should work around having yet another replacement pitcher in the rotation coming up here on the Lockdown Marriss podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Thursday, May 15th, 2025. This is Tadning Azales and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys Podcast.

part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. As always, if you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, you can check out our Patreon. All you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode. So Bryce Miller is officially on the IL. Jonathan Diaz is now up and for now is slated to start game one of this weekend series with Padres, but I have some thoughts on that. We'll get into that.

We'll also talk more about what we saw on that one in five home. and how the mayors can survive this upcoming stretch. But yesterday, before the game, the mayor has officially placed Bryce Miller on the injured list, 15-day injured list retroactive to May 12th with right elbow inflammation, which when you hear that, that kind of sends off some alarms. But Justin Hollander hopped on with bump and Stacey on 17 Seattle Sports shortly after the news came out and said that this isn't something that they're super concerned about. the inflammation is on the back side of his arm.

It's not in the same vicinity as his UCL or anything. And they feel like he'll be back once his 15 days are up. So to me, listen to Hollander say that, kind of makes me think that this is a phantom IL type of situation. And we talked about this, that they needed to give Bryce some sort of reprieve here, whether it was mental, physical, or both. And it seems like they're doing just that.

Bryce also talked to the media yesterday and said that this has been something that he's been dealing with all the way back to the off season. Apparently it kind of went away during the spring so he didn't really say anything. And then it cropped back up once the regular season started. It has been something that just hasn't completely gone away and typically flares up a couple of innings into his start, which aligns with what he said after his start on Sunday about him dealing with some. something during the third and fourth inning against the blue jays so uh yeah so again this kind of seems like a way to just give him a bit of a break um and that's that was absolutely necessary i felt and you feel the same way right yeah um you know if if it wasn't the elbow thing and they

could have put them on the aisle with a back thing or whatever you know it's it's very clear that uh bryce is somewhat physically hampered. And that would, to me, lead to the mechanics being out of whack. And then, of course, the mental game of like, I can't do what I need to do because physically I can't get to where I want to get to. And then it's that big, you know, vicious circle of physical limitations lead to mental limitations. And it just goes around and round and around. So, yeah, very clearly they needed to give him a break. you know, they

could have demoted him and had him back in 10 days, but, you know, I think they're just looking at this and going like, let's give him just two straight weeks where he just... Do you think from like a pride standpoint sending him down would make the confidence

issues worse? I would hope not because I would hope that price would understand that like this is... Yeah. Like the reason I'm struggling right now, now is because I'm not bouncing back.

I'm not healthy. And that is what, you know, and it's just like anything else. If you're not feeling 100% and you go out there and try to do something, your performance is going to be hampered no matter what it is because the back of your mind is, is, you know, always trying to compensate for what you know you're not doing well. And so, yeah, I don't know. It's just tough to drive, you know, to jump into the mind of professional athletes, of anybody, really, but especially anybody who does something at a super high level.

and Bryce is, you know, this is the first time, really, in his entire career, he's had any kind of extended struggle pretty much since being drafted. So, yeah, he's been incredibly durable. I think this is his first I-L stint. They might have put him on the IL the last game of last year. He had a blister or whatever, right? Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, he didn't start because they had been eliminated.

Like, this is the first time he'll actually be, like, struggling and missing time. So, yeah, it's a challenge for him. We've seen a lot of, you know, professional athletes. They're the best player on their team for most of their lives. And then the first time they struggle, you know, it's, it's some don't climb out of it. Jared Kelnick and, you know, others do and they get better for it. And I think Bryce is, you know, again, because he's already had success at the big league level, he knows he can do it. I think that probably helps him in the long run.

But for now, it's very clear. He needed to just kind of get away from everything. And we'll see if he's with the club on the road or they just want him to stay home and kind of, you know, relax and try and get right both physically and mentally. And we'll see if he is indeed back up when his time is up. But, yeah, it was very clear they had to do something here because Bryce just, he's struggling to survive on a big league map. Now he's not even really competing. And so something needed to be done. and, you know,

unfortunate, it's bad timing for the team and all that, but it's, it is what it is. And you got to look out for the player sometimes over the team. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see if he, if he throws at all over the next week or so,

you know, if he throws a bullpen, maybe live BP, what have you. But he got the cortisone shot on Tuesday, Hollander said. So we'll see if this just kind of nips the, the inflammation finally in the bud.

but yeah, very interesting that they think that he's going to be able to come back after his 15 days are up. So I assume that he's going to throw at least at some point here in the next few days. Because, I mean, he can't just completely shut down from throwing for two weeks and then you throw him right back into a major league game. Yeah, we'll see how intensive the throwing program is. But I would assume for the next 10 days, he's not even really going to touch a baseball. And then they'll go from there. but we'll see what the plan is, but clearly they needed to do something

because Bryce is not 100% physically or mentally or mechanically. And so they needed to find a way to reset and they decided to do it now. And, you know, thankfully, again, it does look like George is going to be ready to go on this next road trip. And so they probably only have to use Diaz once.

Yeah. Which is a nice bonus. Yeah. So hopefully this fixes whatever, going on with them. Obviously, it sucks because it happens to fall in line with Kirby and Gilbert still being on EIL, you know,

at the very least for another week with regards to Kirby, like you said. Now you have three replacement pitchers in your rotation at the moment. Like, yeah, we've talked about this, but the Mariners have been historically, incredibly cautious with their pitchers.

And it's May. It's the middle of May, right? There's still a long, long, long ways to go. probably need to get out ahead of this while you can. And so that's exactly what they're doing here. So hopefully that pays off and they're able to get Bryce right. But yeah, we got to talk about, you know, how they proceed here for the next couple weeks while they have Jonathan Diaz and Emerson Hancock and Logan Evans in their rotation.

But specifically Diaz until Kirby is able to get back because I assume that he's going to be the corresponding move once Kirby is activated off the injured list. We'll talk about how they should deploy him because right now he's, later to pitch tomorrow in game one against the Padres. I don't think that should happen. And I'll tell you why coming up here in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Locktime Marys podcast is brought to you by Supply House. Get the supplies you need from the site made for the skilled trades.

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order. That's supplyhouse.com. And you're listening to the Locked-on Marrars podcast. So again, Jonathan Diaz is slated to pitch tomorrow in game one against the Padres out of the Bryce Miller's spot. And the mayor's projected starters against one of the best teams in baseball this weekend are Diaz, Logan Evans, and Emerson Hancock. Hey, so you got the off day today? Make use of it. I get that it's May. However, you're playing the White Sox after this series?

push Jonathan Diaz to the White Sox series Bring up Brian Wu to pitch the final game at this series Have Logan Evans pitch tomorrow Hancock Saturday Brian Wu on Sunday Yeah it also Doesn't prevent

It also allows you to have Wu pitch against the Padres and the Astros And I mean he'd still be pitching against the Astros Right four game series Yeah, in Houston he'd still be pitching against the Astros either way, but why waste of Brian Wu start against the White Sox? I'd rather take my chances with Jonathan Dioz against the White Sox. Yeah.

I really don't think you want to go one and eight over a nine game stretch. And if you start these three guys in a row against the Padres, the likelihood of that happening is very high. It's very high. Right. Like you're already going to have a hard enough time winning this series with Evans and Hancock, both pitching in it. Yeah.

To triple down and go with Jonathan Diaz, who's worse than both of them. Yeah. Plus, like, it's not like the Padres are really starting anyone. That's the equivalent of that. Like, maybe Stephen Kolek, but Kolek has had a good start this year. Now, one of those starts with a complete game shutout against the Rockies. But he also had to get started against the pirates. Okay.

My point being, though, is that Stephen Kolek hasn't given up a run yet this year. I mean, to be fair, the way you're swinging the bat, you basically are the Rockies offense, the way you saw the bat the last, you know, three days. But, you know, it's Michael King and Nick Povetta, the next two games after that. Actually, I think it's in reverse order, but yeah, it's Povetta and King. Yeah, the next two games, like those guys, they're not aces, but they're really good. So, yeah, so you're at a disadvantage on the pitching front in a big way, really no matter what. But yeah, don't waste Brian Wu on the White Sox.

Let him pitch against the Padres. Take your chances with Jonathan Diaz against Chicago. I suppose they could, like, let Diaz start on Friday and then just move Hancock or Evans. And, you know, Wu can start on Saturday instead of Sunday or whatever. But, like, sure. Yeah, it's, you shouldn't let Diaz. Evans and Hancock pitch back to back

to back to back games ever ever and by the way if you're worried about like you know having these guys pitch a day earlier when you call up George and when you

activate George to I assume take Diaz's spot in the rotation you can push everyone back because that's not going to line up with your rotation so you can push everyone back a day Right. I mean, plus you also have to consider the strain on the bullpen that you're going to have.

These three guys, you're going to be really lucky to get five innings apiece out of them. And, you know, you don't have any off days on this road trip. Today is that there is no reset day. And if these three guys all go five or less, then you're talking about your bullpen covering 12. I mean, I don't care if you're playing the White Sox or the Rockies or whatever, if your bullpen is throwing 12 innings minimum, you know, before that series starts, it's going to seriously, especially since, you know, as much as we trust Wu and, you know, Castillo, they've had outings where they haven't been able to get particularly deep either.

And so you're kind of sitting there like, man, how badly do we want this bullpen to be beat up? And there's just not a lot of moves you can make to go and acquire fresh arms to bring into your bullpen right now because nobody in AAA's throwing the ball. Like right now, the guy you call up from AAA probably Will Klein. Like that, that's pretty much what's there. And so, yeah, I think there's a real risk here that you kind of sabotage the bullpen a little bit for the rest of this road trip by having these three guys line up. And we know that the Mariners bullpen isn't that deep. It's D.S. Or sorry, it's Munoz.

And then it's Spire, big step down to spire. And he's still good, but whatever, he's susceptible. And then it's Brash who probably going to be able to pitch in one of these games this weekend. And then it's Vargas and Snyder who have been fine. They're middle guys. But if you have to cover four ratings a night, they're going to be put in high leverage situations that they shouldn't be put in. And so, yeah, there is a trickle-down effect by having all three of these guys pitch in the same series as well. I mean, at least with Wu, you feel pretty good that you're going to get six out of Brian Wu.

And then, you know, you never know with Emerson. Maybe he's got the 55 command of control and you can go six, but maybe he's got 45 and he goes four in a third and gives up five, six runs. Like that's also a real possibility. And so, yeah, I don't think you can have Diaz, Hancock, and Evans make all three starts in the series. At that point, you're begging to get swept. And you've got to start turning this thing around. Like, you're not, it's not a disaster area right now because, again, it's only May 15th.

But it one and eight one and eight stretches. Has a one and eight stretch? Yeah. Has a one and eight stretch over hurt the Mariners? Yeah. No. Nothing comes to mind. So yeah.

But you have a tough road trip here again. No days off after today. And you're not going to have the pitching advantage all weekend, essentially. And so it's very important that you beat up on the White Sox, but you got to find a way to win a game or two here this weekend. And I don't think you can do. that realistically expect to do that if you're rolling with Diaz, Hancock, and Evans all in a row. Yeah. And again, like, if you're concerned about not giving everyone the extra day that they would

otherwise get with this off day, you can give it to them next week by putting Kirby in the rotation. Yep. So you're just delaying that by a week. And honestly, that might be more beneficial to them because that's going to be in the middle of the long road trip rather than at the start. So yeah, that's what I would do. I think that's the most beneficial route for this team to take to try and stop the bleeding here because otherwise I can very easily see this thing get ugly. And it puts just so much pressure on your bullpen and it puts so much pressure on your offense, which is really beat up right now.

We'll see if J.P. Crawford is able to play this week. weekend doesn't seem like that serious of a thing. The way Dan described it yesterday, shoulder tightness, they'll have back-to-back days with, you know, yesterday and now the day off today. So hopefully he'll be back in the lineup tomorrow. But yeah, like you also don't have JP on top of all the other guys you're missing in that lineup.

Like, whiff, you're going to be asking them to probably have to score five or six runs against that. Against Nick Pivetta and Michael King and. Yeah, well, and even if you're able to get to, you know, Stephen Colac, you, then you have to face that Padres bullpen. You have to face guys like Robert Suarez who have been awesome this year. So, yeah, it's just a lot that you're going to be asking of your, and now you're going to be asking this of your offense and your bullpen anyway, even if you do bump up woo to that final game because Evans and Hancock are starting the other two games, presumably, or maybe, you know, Diaz and Evans are starting the two games. maybe they push Hancock back, whatever, whatever the route they might choose. It's still pretty much the same issue.

But yeah, if you want to put yourself in the best position to at least win one of these games, you need to push Brian Wu into one of those slots. You're listening to the Locked-on Mariners podcast. So let's reflect on this one in five homestand a little bit and just talk about how the marers are going to have to survive this long road trip. Now, they get like a little bit of a reprieve in between. between the Padres and Astros series, well,

the series against the White Sox, who are obviously really bad, but, you know, they're major league baseball team, kind of. So you don't want to mess around too much. They're better than they were last year.

They're better than the Rockies. Yes. And the pirates, I think. Are they better than the pirates? I think they might be. It's close. It's close.

Yeah, I mean, you're not going to have to face Andrew Benetendi, if that matters to you. But how, how is he doing? this year. Well, I mean, he's hurt. Yeah. But I mean, like, is that, like, if he was healthy, if he was healthy, would that

actually be like, is that someone that we should miss? 98 WRC plus, I guess. I mean, relative to the rest of the White Sox, sure. You're running Donovan Solano out there. That's really good. Yeah. So, yeah. Miles Masterbony was your leadoff hitter yesterday. That's really good. 98. Wow. Yeah. And Andrew Benetty is, what, 37% better than Miles Masterbony? Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, again, and then you have what, four. Do you play the White Sox for four or the Astros for four? I think it's the Astros for four. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the Astros for four. Yeah. I would love it if it was the White Sox for four, but yeah, pretty sure it's the Astros.

I mean. Yeah, yeah, because it's White Sox Monday through. Yeah, because Kirby's going to start Thursday against the Astros. The Astros. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be real nice if this team could do what the, you know, got what the rangers got and they just got a three game series against the Rockies handed to them

in the middle of their struggles. That'd be great. But, yeah, so you take what you can get. But yeah, it's going to be a rough road trip either way because I really don't care. You know, like the White Sox, they're not good. But if you're not playing good baseball, that could be a disastrous series for you. So, and right now the Mariners are not playing particularly good baseball. No.

No. and the mayor's offense scored 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, and 5 on the homestine. So the offense has regressed quite a bit, and it's really because the bottom of the lineup hasn't been able to come through as much. Now also the top of the lineup had some issues as well over the course of the homestown. But again, when the top of the lineup has had some issues over the course of the year, we've talked about this. The bottom of the lineup has been able to pick up the slack. but we were waiting for that to regress, and it seems like that has happened now.

So now it's on J.P. Crawford and Jorge Polanco and Julio Rodriguez, Randy Rosa, Rana, Cal Raleigh to pick things up here and start leading the charge. And that's exactly what the mayors are going to need to have happen on this road trip, especially in this upcoming series against the Padres, if they're going to have any shot here because of what we just talked about with the pitching matchups. Colby, there's something that happened on the, home stand though that I just can't get over. It's this.

Kirk Cousins was apparently at the game on Tuesday. Fully decked out in Mariners gear, by the way. Now, you know, people have been quick to point out that, you know, Kirk's cousin, as funny as that is, Jake Cousins is a member of the Yankees. He's in the Yankees bullpen. However, he's on the 60-day I-L, so I don't imagine that he is traveling with the team right now.

maybe he is but even then even if kirk's out there to support his his cousin which again is hilarious to say out loud um why is he in barren's gear i mean welcome to lockdown sea hawks very clearly the seahawks are about to have the funniest quarterback room of all time they're like you know what the last two viking starting quarterbacks we want that and so yeah i mean like don't forget Daniel Jones will probably be a tryout player here at some point. So there you go. Sure.

Sure. But might as well get like Case Keenham in here. Sean Hill. Very clearly the Falcons have traded Kirk Cousins, paying down his entire salary, with a first round pick to the Seahawks for a seventh because that's the kind of quality of a franchise the Atlanta Falcons are. Chills. But yeah, that that was weird. Anywho.

So what do you? What do you make of the Marin's homestand overall? What concerned you the most about that one in five homestand? The offense. Yeah. By default, I mean, I think at this stage we have to accept that the starting pitching in the state that it's in right now is just not good. Like, it's unfortunate, but it's not good. And on any given night, like, the floor is that you give up nine, ten runs and you don't really even have a shot to win the game.

And on most nights the ceiling is maybe they go five or six and they only give up three or four. And we have a shot to win. And so that'll change hopefully pretty quick here with George reentering the rotation. And we'll continue to monitor Logan and all of that. They continue to be super optimistic about him. And then Bryce, who knows, but there's still a couple big question marks there. But yeah, you know, in the bullpen, it is what it is at this stage. Like there's one super high leverage guy that you trust.

And then there's, I would say two that you mostly trust. But for various reasons, you don't, you know, Brash and Spire. You mostly trust them. But Spire is, you know, not elite right now. And Brash is coming off of the injury. And he's still trying to figure some things out as well. But then after that, it's just, you know, a bunch of middle guys. And then there's also a couple guys in this bullpen who they're just not good.

like Troy Taylor. It's just not good. So, yeah, I think that is what it is. It's the offense that you're worried about. And it's the offense that really carried you in that nine series win streak. And the offense just didn't appear really at all this entire homestand. Now, the first game against the Blue Jays, we chalked that up to a lot of bad luck. They had like 18 hard hit balls. And they had eight balls that were put in play at over 100 miles an hour that were outs.

all of that. They had base runners everywhere, blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. Wasn't that good the next night? It was terrible on Sunday. Then the offense was pretty good on Friday or on Monday. But again, that was mostly due to a late homer off of Tim Hill by Cal Raleigh, you know, give them five, which is a respectable number. And then the offense was abysmal for 20 innings in the last two games. And, you know, I mean, like they were pretty good against freed in terms of just frustrating free, dragging out long at bats, making sure that they got him out of the game. Thank goodness they did because the 0 and 6 homestand would have felt a lot worse than the 1 in 5. And yesterday is kind of one of those ones where it's like, yeah, you could have won that game and you could have had, you know, what if you had found a way to win that game, then the conversation we're having a day is probably a lot different. But you didn't.

And in large part, the reason you didn't is because your offense sucked. You know, the pitching, they gave up four runs to the Yankees and 20 innings, and you split those two games. Like that, that's on the offense. Any way you want to slice it. So, yeah, the offense is the most concerning thing. And it's because, you know, Polo's really falling back down to Earth over the last couple weeks as we knew we would. You know, Cal is not hitting a home run every other game anymore, which again, we knew what was going to happen. He's still getting on base because the Blue Jays are terrified to pitch to him.

which finally they figured that out, given that at least. You know, Julio and Randy have both been good, solid, but not like otherworldly in this stretch. And like you said, the bottom of the order, just hasn't really picked it up.

And the league's made an adjustment to Williamson. The Mariners are continuing to ride with Miles Mastroponi over Leo Rivas, which I really don't get. And obviously, Dylan Moore is also slings. down. So, yeah, just a bunch of guys who were off to incredible starts. They finally, you know, hit a skid and we all knew it was going to happen. And unfortunately, they all seem to hit it at the exact same time, which is not what you want. That's not really survivable. And that's something that we

saw a lot last year. A lot of guys slumping at the very exact same time. So yeah, you know, the key to me, the biggest, biggest key on this road trip for me, though, is getting starts out of Brian Wu and and Luis Castillo that are at least close to what you got this last turn through the rotation. But you need those guys to be the stabilizers right now, especially when you're going to be rolling out at least one turn through the rotation, Jonathan Diaz, Logan Evans, and Emerson Hancock. And who knows what George Kirby is going to look like when he gets back? You know, maybe he's the George Kirby we know and love.

But at the very least, he's probably going to be short scripted to a certain degree. So, you know, he might only be able to go four or five. Yeah, yeah, depending on how, you know, frustrating the Astros are on that particular night. So, you know, it might be a quick outing for him and then that puts more pressure on the bullpen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So you need Brian Wu and Luis Castillo to do about as close as they did against the Yankees these last couple of days. Yeah, it's kind of a shame that Louise and Brian got overshadowed by what happened after they left the game. because they were both really, really good.

And especially, I mean, it was incredibly impressive when, you know, again, you're going up against the best offense in the game, the best fastball hitting offense in the game. And he's just throwing fastballs and daring them to hit it.

Like he always does, right? I do what I do. Yeah. Sometimes it bites me. Sometimes, but most of the time. I'm not going to change,

though. I'm not going to change. Yeah. Yeah. And then again, like Castillo was really good. Yeah. yesterday. I mean, interestingly, good, because he gave up a lot of hard contact.

But he got a ton of big strikeouts, a ton of big whiffs. And we definitely saw a kind of like a tweak a little bit in how Castillo attack guys yesterday. And it ended up with him being fastball heavy, which he normally is. But it was because of the slider early and all that. And Wu, like you said, just going right after guys. Like no fear of throwing his stuff in the strike zone. And yeah, it's a bummer that the two games, you know, kind of dictated that those two players be overshadowed because they did everything they possibly could to hand the Mariners a series. They had no business winning. And unfortunately, they just didn't get enough help on Wednesday to get that done. But so it goes. Yeah. So you need Wu and Cassio to go at least six.

and give up, you know, hopefully three or fewer over those six. I think, you know, you're going to have to start asking Hancock to do that as well. They've been very resistant to letting him face the lineup for the third time. I get it. Yeah. But you have to protect your bullpen a little bit here. So sometimes you've got to push it. Yeah.

And as scary as this is to say, he's your third best pitcher right now. So you kind of have to ask him to do, you know, that kind of stuff. off right now just with how things are you know once Kirby gets back and once he gets settled in then not as much but uh yeah for for at least the next couple weeks and cock kind of has to be that that third dude in the rotation until Kirby's able to just kind of go without any sort of leash on him yeah yeah we're in a rough spot right now hopefully they'll get that it gets back soon hopefully the the optimistic timeline they put on him is actually real because yeah yeah well All right.

That's going to do it for our show tomorrow. We are going to be joined by the great Gary Hill. Colby and I are actually going to be talking to them here in the next hour or so. But you guys will hear that tomorrow. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marys podcast. For Colby Pat Node, I'm Tadangazales. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at LO underscore Marrars. You can follow me at Tidangazales and Colby at C-Pat-11.

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