Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Will France and Crawford Go Gold?

Episode Date: October 26, 2021

Locked On Mariners hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode discuss Ty France and J.P. Crawford's chances of winning Gold Gloves, then dive into BaseballTradeValues.com for more terrible Mariners trade proposal and a decent one that has the M's landing Orioles left-handed pitcher John Means.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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It's mock trade Tuesday here on Lockdown Mariners. Colby's gone through baseball trade values.com to find the worst possible Mariners trade proposals he could find. I haven't heard any of these yet, so we will react to these together. And if you like what you hear, get the show a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this. We greatly appreciate it. But before we get into the trades, we actually have some minor Mariners news, but exciting Mariners news to talk about the. The Gold Glove nominations have been announced, and the Mariners have two nominees at First Base and Shortstop for the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards.

Thai France at First Base, J.P. Crawford at Shortstop. We've talked a lot about both of these guys and what they've been able to do defensively, especially Thai France, this year becoming quite the revelation at first base after seemingly not having a home anywhere in the endfield. Perry Hill doing a lot of great work with these guys and their hard work has been recognized. Colby, what do you have to say about, you know, just what these guys have been able to do this year and to become one of the, you know, two of the best defensive infielders and all of the American League? And, you know, what do you think their chances are of winning individually? First of all, it's pretty cool to be nominated for such an award, especially for somebody like Thai France. who, you know, basically the rub on him as a prospect was, well, he's hit at the high minors.

And we think maybe he can hit at the big league level. But he's so bad defensively that, you know, he's really probably not ever going to be an everyday player. And well, not only is the bat better than anybody thought, except for maybe Seattle. But it turns out he can't play defense at a very high level, particularly at first base. So, yeah, for him, it's a big honor for JP. Again, much, much deserved. It wasn't as flashy of a year as we've seen in the past, but he was just so consistent with it.

And he still made, you know, the great play every once in a while, but it was just so consistent on the routine stuff and even making some of the more difficult plays look really routine. So, yeah, much deserved by both of them. As for their chances, I still kind of feel like this. is going to be, you know, this is going to be partially an offensive award. And while Thai France did have a great offensive year, you know, other guys had better years at the plate. And JP.

Nearly Gurriel. Yeah, I kind of think Gurriel's going to win it. As for, as for, you know, JP at shortstop, I mean, look, we were kind of surprised when he won it last year. Not that he didn't deserve it, but we were. he wasn't the favorite I think we can say that so

well and the reason that he won was because they were going off of the Sabre defensive index last year right because none of the writers that were voting were able to see him in person so yeah so that was based off of statistics

and this year it's not and even if it was JP wouldn't win because he wasn't near the top of the SDI rankings at shortstop so it's yeah it's going to be interesting to see how, you know, the national writers view J.P. Crawford in the voting this year. It, it will be. And, you know, one of the things that's nice about that is because he's

won one, you know, it makes it more likely that he'll win another. And that's pretty stupid. But that's the way Major League Baseball writers vote. You know, once you win a World Series, or once you win a gold glove, you're more likely to win another one and another one. You know, and that's, again, that's kind of lame, but it's just kind of the way it works. And, you know, a lot of voters are, are pretty lame. So it is a plus for JP that he, that he does have one under his belt. But I kind of think that, you know, neither guy is likely to win. But, you know, it's possible.

They're both deserving. Yeah. Well, the numbers for each are fantastic. tie France first in the American League and fielding percentage 999 fielding percentage he was first in the American League in Ultimate Zone rating UZR with a 3.0 rating there and was tied second in defensive run saves as well with five J.B Crawford also second in Major League Baseball and Fielding percentage at 9-81 so both guys just at the top of their class numbers were. wise. We'll see, you know, again, how the riders view both of them. I think it's going to be Yulee Griell

at first base, but I actually think that J.P. Crawford has a pretty good shot. Pretty much for the reason that you mentioned that, you know, he's won one now. He's garnered the attention of national writers because of that. And I'm sure that they've

they have paid close attention to him. And of course, he, you know, he didn't have a flashy season as, as you said. said, you know, didn't really have that Heisman moment as we've talked about that, you know, he usually takes for guys to, you know, win these awards and to have, you know, a big highlight, real worthy play a, you know, massive web gem, top 10, you know, play of the year type of play. But he's just so consistent and so smooth. And I think, you know, we kind of take him for granted because of that because he's just so

smooth out there and there's really never any issues other than the occasional misthrow or what have you but he is just so steady out there and it's such a testament to peri hill and what he's been able to do and then he'll did it again with tie france and to you know go from evan white who you know the glove is just spectacular he wins the gold glove because he was at the top of the sdi rankings last year and his rookie season he gets her hurt and it's well you're losing you know defense at first base but you're gaining you know hopefully some offense out of that position from Evan White and you get both instead you get pretty much I mean I wouldn't say that Thai France is a better first base defender than Evan White but it's a

lot closer than you would have thought and you pair that with the bat that he's brought now you know what what do you think this means for Evan White moving forward and and you know eventually by the time that he's able to get back to the major league level, of course, he's going to start in the minor leagues to start the season next year if he's healthy. But when he gets back, I mean, first base isn't going to be open for him, right? No, and it's, you know,

really that's the least of his concern, because if Evan White doesn't hit, he's not going to have a spot in the major leagues anywhere. Yeah. I mean, first base defense is cool, and Evan White is certainly great. at it, but nobody is going to have a zero come from the first base position in exchange for an elite glove.

So for Evan White, it's, it's, you know, 22 is all about hitting. And he's got to hit his way back to the big leagues. And once that happens, we'll see. You know, Evan White's a good athlete. It's possible he can move into the play some corner outfield. But Seattle should be pretty loaded there as well. So, yeah, he might be the odd man out or tie France. might play some third base or there might be an injury that makes sense.

We're just so far down the road. Yeah. That's just so far down the road that it's very tough to, you know, figure that out because honestly, I'd be shocked if we saw Evan White, even with injuries prior to June or July at the earliest and probably probably closer to August if we're being truthful. Yeah, I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. it's going to be a long road back for Evan White, but the Mariners are pretty well off at first base anyway with Thai France.

And JP Crawford at Shortstop, they're doing pretty well for themselves defensively. We'll see how they put the rest of the infield together around them later this off season. And we're going to look at some trades now that are being proposed by Mariners fans, other teams fans around the internet on baseball trade values.com. It's going to be, let's say, an interesting time. but before we get into that, I want to remind you this episode of Lockdown Mariners

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Tuesday, where Colby goes through baseball trade values.com. And looks through some of the weirdest and the occasional good trade that sneaks on through at this strange, silly website that completely mismanages its valuation of Major League Baseball players and has people come up with some of the craziest and dumbest trades out there. And Colby, I believe you've found quite a few of those. I haven't seen any of these just yet. So I'm going to be reacting along here with our listener and should be a lot of fun. So let's get started with it.

All right. So first up, let's start with an old, I can't even say a friend, but a former mariner. Okay. Ironically traded for a guy he was already traded for. So this fine gentleman wants the, I believe he is a Phillies fan. he wants the Phillies to trade Raphael Marchan or Marchand, how you pronounce it, and Gene Seguera to the Mariners for Ken Giles, Mitch Hanager, and Evan White. All right.

Now, Gene Seguer is a good player still. but the Mariners would have no interest in bringing Genezigerra back. If you're listening to this and you don't know why, Gene Zaker is not a great clubhouse guy. Had some altercations, particularly one with Dee Gordon at one point. The Mariners are not interested in bringing Genezigerra back. He's not a fit in this clubhouse. And yeah, that would be of no.

interest to them whatsoever. That's just a silly trade proposal in general, though. I'm assuming that's from a Phillies fan who hasn't really paid attention. The annoying thing is about this is that Gene Segura, if he wasn't kind of a tool, for a lack of a better word, he'd actually make a lot of sense for Seattle. You play second. Oh, yeah. He can handle short lead off hitter.

He's got some power. you can steal some bases, Kai contact guy like the Mariners like. Like Gene Segura makes a ton of sense for the Mariners until you get to the reality that we live in, which is that Gene Segura is, you know, basically clubhouse cancer.

Or the last time he was in Seattle, he was. And Scott Service is still there. You know, Canoe, Gordon, Cruz, they're all gone.

But Marco's still there. I mean, and is Sigura a better bat than Hanager? I say no. So you get your second baseman, sure, but now you have to go get a right fielder or a DH. And by the way, you lose a guy in the bullpen that you're really counting on. So, you know, I'm going to assume this guy doesn't understand the history with Seguera in Seattle and why he left in the first place. And honestly, you know, I know a lot of people, oh, it was a rebuild.

Was it though? Because they had just signed Segarra to a five-year extension. He was only 28 at the time. like that's the guy you keep around so it wasn't just because they were rebuilding so yeah it's annoying that sagura you know burned bridges here well and remember

when they traded sagura the return they got back felt kind of light kind of felt like they were a little bit desperate to trade him and of course J.P. Crawford's been pretty good since the game over and it seems like they did pretty well but you know there was talk that they

wanted six so Sanchez also in the deal or Spencer Howard and, you know, that didn't work out. And they ended up getting J.P. Crawford and Carlos Santana. You know, obviously flipped Santana to get in Cardassion and the competitive balance round B pick, which turned into Isaac Campbell, so on and so forth. But, yeah, they, they, they, they wanted to get rid of him. And it was, it was certainly time.

And it was a good time to do it. Yeah, they were motivated. So. And it worked for both teams, as most trades should. It sure did. I tweeted from our Twitter account that Segura and JP have basically the exact same war. JP has a slight edge in baseball reference war. Segura has a slight edge in Vanguard's war.

It's worth noting that, you know, JP has about 20 to 30 less games somewhere in that range than Segura. So for all, you know, for all, you know, practicality, have been equal in terms of value. The difference is Seguura has cost the Phillies $44 million to accrue the same value that J.P. Crawford has given the Mariners in about $3 million. So yeah, it worked out for both sides. But Seguera, like just in a vacuum, yes, makes sense. Not necessarily for this trade package, but it makes sense.

Yeah. In reality, it's dead on arrival. No chance. yeah all right next trade what do you got for me uh rockies

uh this guy we talked about the other day so I think you might find this one something uh Garrett Hampson no not quite

jaden Hill oh okay and Brendan Rogers okay yep for Matt Brash Abraham Toro and Taylor Tramel uh

I mean it's not terrible I feel like that's um you know if you're trading for Rogers who had a pretty good year. No, he did, but. I mean, he was a league average hitter with solid defense. I would rather have Toro, though, to be quite honest with you.

I feel like that's kind of a lateral move. If you're just looking at it as Toro for Rogers, which it's not. You're getting Jaden Hill, who's coming off of an injury, and that's a little bit concerning. His draft stock kind of tanked. but I like the pitcher. I just, I feel like this is a lot for a move that isn't.

I don't think it moves the needle really in one way or another for the mayor for the 2022 mirrors and you're trading Matt Brash on top of that as well. Exactly. A really good piece. I just, I feel like this is fairish. But I just, I don't, I don't.

It misses. it misses the whole point. Again, I'm going to assume this is a Rockies fan. Brennan Rogers would help the Mariners, but Toro, Tramel, and Brash are probably all going to help the Mariners in 2022. That's true. Yeah. Whereas, so, I mean, it's, look, Brash is, we don't know what he is yet,

but Jaden Hill hasn't thrown a professional pitch. So let's calm down on that. Yeah, Tramel struggled. So if this was like Taylor Tremel for Jaden Hill to clear a 40 man spot. I think that's about fair value. If this was Brash for Rogers, I think that I think I could do that. Sure. I could take a shot on that. Toro for Rogers. Sure, I probably rather have Toro, but that's close. But it's just this trade breaks down basically. It's like Toro and Trammel for Rogers. No thanks. And then Matt Brash, who's major league ready for Jaden Hill, who's, you know, two, three

years away at least. It just doesn't make sense timing wise for Seattle. Yeah. Yeah. So good effort, but no. Yeah. It's a little bit heavy on the, the mirror side of things. Mm-hmm. So a couple, a couple of trades for the same person. Each one is pretty ridiculous. And it's a player we've discussed in the past. So you're ready for some Tyler Glassnow trades? Oh, boy. Yep. I have, I've now listen I've I've told folks just if you're thinking about doing a Tyler Glass Now trade just don't even attempt to do it it just it never ends well so I'm I I have no idea what to expect here well I mean I do know what to expect here but I'm I'm scared yeah

it's so here's glass now is not pitching in 2022 that's how you have to look at it if you're trying to make such a trade, which means you get one year of glass now coming off of injury. What is that worth? Well, according to these fine folks or this fine folk, glass now, one year of glass now, should net the Tampa Bay raise, Emerson Hancock, Juan Tane, and Levi Stout. You know what? Yeah. That's not even the worst one.

Because the next guy thinks that you should be able to get, that the race should be able to recoup Emerson Hancock in Michigan. Chaniger for Tyler Blasnell. Oh, no. Oh, no. I just, I can't believe people like look at the 91 Mariners and go, I bet they're, I bet they're looking to rebuild again. All right. I bet they're, yeah. Yeah. I, I think they think that, yeah. It's like, I, like, the first one at least is for prospects. But why would you trade Machanager for somebody who doesn't help you this year? at all.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, here's the thing that you have to keep in mind. He's not going to pitch this year. And there's no guarantee of what kind of Tyler Glass now you're getting back in 2023 either.

You might only get 10 good starts out of him if that. There's really no certainty there. And there's no rush to trade for him right now. You can do that next off season. Because I just. I don't think that any team is going to trade for him right now, unless they're getting him for pennies on the dollar. And I just don't think that's going to happen.

I don't think the raise are going to do that. But also, are the raise going to be willing to pay arbitration for a guy that's not going to help them this year? You know, in a decent amount of arbitration? I think it's like four. Is it $4 million? $6 million? I can't remember.

But for Glass now, I think it's four. Yeah. But the rays are notoriously cheap. So who knows? But, yeah. If I'm trading for glass, now I'm waiting until at least the trade deadline to do that if not later yeah I mean if Seattle wants to take a shot on him and it costs them like Levi stout then it's like

okay I'd be fine with that whatever yeah like that's that's cool like I like Levi stout but I get it yeah sure but Hancock no no no no no no no no straight up trading a top 10 prospect in my system for Tyler Glass now right now. And I'm not trading anybody who can who's a significant contributor in 2022. Yeah. Like I said, if the, the raise are really desperate to get that $4 million off the books, which they shouldn't be. But if they are, I'm not trading anyone probably in my top 15 for that.

Like there's just, what's the benefit of me trading for him now? Right. I mean, look, you can have John. other than getting him in my system and working with him through his rehab. Like that's it. Yep. On the hopes that he might be good in 2023 and stay healthy all year. And then inevitably go to free agency.

Yeah. I just, I don't, yeah, I don't get that. I don't get what people's obsession with the Mariners trading for Tyler Glassnell this year is really. I just, I don't get it. I have really no interest in that considering what it's probably going to cost or what. what the raise are going to ask for. It's not realistic. No.

If he was healthy, if he was healthy, yeah, no, if he was healthy, great, but he's not. And so I just, I don't, yeah, I just, I don't see the point in that. Context matters, guys. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, so that's, we're going to move on here and look at more trades in just some moment, but real quick, want to remind you this episode of Lockdown Marin is brought to you by bet online.

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Bet online is the fastest and easiest way to bet on all your favorite sports. Bet online where the game starts. All right. We got some more trades to go over here from baseball tradevalues.com. And if the last few trades that we looked at are any indication, then this is going to be something. Colby, what do you have for me, man?

All right. So here we have a trade for, a former future mariner Whitmerifield So in this trade The Royals would get Matt Brash And Harry Ford

Yeah And I'm already saying now Well the Mariners would get Whitmerfield Carlos Santana And Scott Barlow Uh

I mean What could does Carlos Santana get you? Yeah, exactly yeah what like I have Thai France and I want my DH to be flexible so I have no interest in Carlos Santana

plus I have to pay him no thank you Scott Barlow cool I like Scott Barlow a lot had a great ear I was I was hoping that they would Yeah but Brash could be better I'm not trading Matt Brash from

Whitmerfield I know that much And I'm not trading Harry Ford for Whitmerfield. Neither one of those. Whitmerfield is not worth either one of those guys. Now, I'll say this. That trade compensation is very in line with what the royal or with how the royals value what Merrifield. Yep. So, um, yeah.

Uh, if we're just talking about like, realism here in terms of just what a trade offer would look like from the royals to the meritor's. Then that's probably right on. par but yeah the mariners are not doing that they're laughing in the face of date more and hanging up the phone indeed all right what else you got all right um so uh minnesota twins trade here uh minnesota trades byron buxton and kenta myeda who's not going to pitch next year yeah uh for Zach Deloche, Sam Carlson, Jake Fraley, and Justice

Sheffield. See, we're not afraid to rag on Mariner fans either who propose these type of things. Yeah, yeah, this is definitely a Marriott's fan. Yeah, let's not treat Carlson, Fraley, and Sheffield like they have value. I know baseball trade value

says they do, but they don't. They don't. Yeah. Yeah, Fraley, out of the three guys there, it's probably Freyley has the most, which isn't saying a ton because they're like, look, I know Freyley was technically like a 110 WRC plus guy this year, but look at the underlying numbers.

Look at his splits. Yeah. Just just look at the splits and do yourself a favor and get acquainted with his splits. Not a center fielder, not a lot of power. Yeah. Hasn't played a full season or anything close to it. Like, yeah.

Carlson, I mean, I like him. He was able to make it back. That was nice. But yeah, he's still got a long way to go. So I think he would be, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Carlson winds up in a trade this off season, just like kind of on the back end of a deal. But he's not going to be any. he's not super valuable. Justice Sheffield,

if he has trade value, it is very, very, very, very, very minuscule. Zach Deloche is like the one legit asset here, really. And I'm just going to tell you now. That's not going to get it done for Byron Buckson.

No, I mean, Deloche profiles quite similarly to Seth Smith. like you can hit a little bit he's got better defense but yeah i mean not not center field though so it's it's right i like i i think ultimately deloche is a good fourth outfielder um i think jake fredley is a fourth outfielder i think you know sam carlson is a complete lottery ticket who starting this winter has to go on your 40 man or he he's rule five eligible.

Not that anybody would take him this winter, but, you know, maybe next winter. And Sheffield is a guy who, if he got DFA'd, I wouldn't be shocked. Like,

I'd be mildly surprised, but I would not be shocked because he just, he took multiple steps back in 2021. And they put him in the bullpen and nothing ticked up. And it just, he's a complete rework right now. He's an athlete with a pretty good slider. And that's all you can count on Justice Sheffield for.

So he's, He's a complete rework. So, and the twins are going to give up, if the twins are going to trade Buxton, they're not going to do it for that. So that's just, that's a bad trade. That's way too much bulk. Yeah. Do we have any more before we hop off for the day?

One more that I think is pretty interesting, actually. Okay. So let's end on a, let's call it a high note. John Means to Seattle for Kyle Lewis and Justice Sheffield. Can people stop putting Justice Sheffield in these trades? All right. I mean, Kyle Lewis for John Means, not terrible.

Probably going to need to add more if you're the Mariners. Definitely not Justice Sheffield. It's a good starting point. And we know that the Mariners have been interested in Means before. They called the Orioles in the summer about Means. So I would be fine with John Means. Certainly, you know, solid middle of the rotation pitcher. Would you trade Kyle Lewis for John Means?

I'm not super thrilled about it, but I feel like that, like, if you're, if you're not looking to trade one of your top prospects for a good middle of the rotation pitcher, it's probably the guy to use there. Yeah. You're still going to have to add something, though, like from the Orioles perspective, like even though, even though John Means was kind of just a, you know, Even though they had the no hitter and everything this year, he was just kind of a, you know, he was a two and a half one pitcher. Mm-hmm.

Which is not, not amazing, but also not terrible. Or not, you know, like it was above average. He had a 4-6-1 FIP. Yeah. Which is about half a run below average. I think a league average FIP this year was about 4.3, 4.25, something like that. So, yeah, I mean, his X-FIP is fine. is fine. He actually gets a fair amount of strikeouts, 8.22 this year, which pretty good.

I mean, not great, but doesn't walk guys. Gives up a lot of home runs. I don't know if you know, last year in 2020, he gave up two and a half home runs per nine. Ooh. This year, he gave up 1.84 home runs per nine. And I mean, a part of that is probably Camden, right? but still. I think that's a little overrated.

To be honestly, I think that's a little overrated. The whole get him out of Baltimore and he'll be better thing. Really? That worked with Eric Bedard, right? Yeah. Worked with Yvani Gallardo.

Yeah. See, I just, to me, what's his fly ball rate? His ground ball rate this year was 32.5%. So he gives up a lot of fly balls and a lot of hard contact. So, I mean, I don't want to make it sound like John Means is a bad pitcher because he's not.

And would he be an upgrade to what Seattle was running out there last year? Yes, of course. But is that worth Kyle Lewis? I mean, I guess it comes down to do you still believe in Kyle Lewis? And I still do. I do too. I like, again, if this trade comes across the ticker, I'm okay with it. I get it.

I understand it. It makes sense. Am I thrilled about it? No, because. I kind of feel like just go sign Alex Wood. It's go give Alex Wood $13 million. Right. Same thing.

I mean, very similar. You know, I just, I don't know. Like I, we were told that the Mariners asked about John Means. So this trade deadline.

So we know that there's some level of interest there. It was actually before the deadline. It was like, the start of July that they called. Right. And so the Orioles are kind of starting to maybe think about coming out of their rebuild with a trade a 28-year-old starter with three years of club control. Probably not, but maybe. I think this is an interesting trade offer, and I could see the argument for it.

I could see why somebody would think about it. I could see why the Orioles would say yes. I could see why the Marys would say yes. I can see why both sides would also say no. So this is a really good one. I actually like this one. pretty thought-provoking. Yeah.

I think that though, like from the Orioles perspective, they're going to ask for Kyle Lewis plus. And they're going to want something better than Justice Sheffield. I think they're going to ask. And at that point, I'm probably uncomfortable with that. Yeah. I think they would want Lewis and like Williamson or something. I think they probably view means as more than he is.

So, I mean, it's like, would you try. I would agree. Like, would you trade Kyle Lewis for another Marco? like a different organization's Marco because that's basically what John means is maybe a little bit better but not much. Well, and also he's going to be priced pretty high because he's one of their better assets.

Yeah. Right. That's just that's more of a, you know, a commentary there on the state of the Orioles than anything. But, um, yeah,

I, I probably say no. Uh, just even in, in terms of Lewis for, for, for me and straight up because I just, I like Kyle Lewis.

Um, I believe in Kyle Lewis. And I think you could probably use Kyle Lewis to get used to help you get something better if you do want to trade them. Right. So, yeah, I just, it's, it's very interesting. I actually really like that idea. But probably still going to say no to it. So that's going to do it for today's show.

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