Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Will Mariners Ownership's View of the Front Office Change After Lackluster Winter?

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

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At this point, the Mariners are probably looking at taking a shot on another Victor Robles type of situation. Which players could fit that mold? We'll answer that and more coming up here on Mailbag Monday. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-On Podcast Network, your team every day. Ohoy, Sailors, it is Monday, January 27th, 2025. This is Tiding Azales and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys.

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Kicking us off here on Mailbag Monday is CJ who wants to know if there isn't an impact move this off season and the mayor's missed the playoffs again, do you think there will be wholesale changes on the front office? If so, do you think it will alter the ownership's mindset and how they want to move with the team in spending terms? To quickly answer the second part of your question, no, they're just going to find someone else that can work within those restrictions. The first part of your question is pretty interesting, though, because Colby, you and I talked about this. I mean, seems pretty clear that the reason that it doesn't seem that firing Jerry to Poto or Justin Hollander has even crossed ownership's minds from the outside looking in, it's because they've been very good at at least keeping this team relevant into the late stages of the season.

They keep people interested in the ball club. They keep people coming to the ballpark in September and even into you know, the last few days of the season. But if this front office, which has proven to ownership that we can build a competitive ball club within the restrictions you said, if they're not able to do something significant this off season and the team misses the playoffs again

and maybe they take a step back record-wise from where they were last year, does that potentially change how ownership views this front office? an office? No, because they're still going to make money. And one thing we know about the John Stanton ownership group is that the only thing they care about is turning a profit. Maybe they didn't start that way, but that's definitely where they are right now. And so Jerry Depoto and this crew have proven that no matter how much you screw them over, they're probably going to put a pretty decent product out there on the field for most of the year. So you're going to sell tickets. because ultimately we're baseball fans and we want our favorite baseball team to be good.

And so if they look like they're pretty good, we're going to go out there and watch. Like there's just, you know, nothing really that, you know, is going to incentivize. Like, we should start here. There's nothing that's going to incentivize John Stan to spend more if he's not already incentivized. Nothing. You're on the precipice of going to the World Series, winning in a World Series. Like, you're right there. You can do those things if you just invest a little bit more.

resource into your major league ball club and they still won't do it. And they haven't done it for three or four years now. So clearly nothing is going to incentivize them to spend more money. So, you know, do they, I mean, how attractive of a job is that? Are you going to get like a top notch candidate? Are you going to have to go get another retread? Because nobody else is going to want this job. Now, at the end of the day, it's a GM job.

There's only 30 of them. Right. And you still have. have Julio and you still have Cal and you still have a pretty good roster. So I'm not saying that you're like nobody's going to want this job. But it's not going to be like a super highly sought after job. So you might not get other people to jump shit from organizations that you want to emulate or whatever.

So it's just one of those things where it's tough to say because as we've mentioned like Jerry DePoto has proven that he is, dare I say elite at doing the thing that John Stan cares about the most, which is building. holding a competitive ball club on not really a shoestring budget, but one that they're happy with. So you still have doubts that even if they don't really do anything of substance this off season for the rest of the way, they miss the playoffs again, even if they take a little bit of a step back record wise, that you're not convinced that ownership would fire Jerry and Justin. So what do you think it would take for ownership to want to fire Jerry and Justin?

Would it just be a pure optics thing? Yeah, pretty much. I think it would just be, I think they would have to lose money. Like they would have to be so bad that they have to carry a loss. And then at that point, okay, well, then I guess we'll fire them. And maybe that'll give us enough goodwill to get people to come back the next year. I think it's 100% about their profit margin.

And if the profit margin is still good, then they'll keep the guys who are willing to do the job, you know, for the way they want to operate their ball club. So yeah, I think it would all come down to the bottom line. Like if Jerry and Justin get fired, it's because they didn't make as much money as they thought they should make. And that's it. I think that's the way they get fired.

Ben wants to know. Inside baseball question, why would a player accept a trade with a no trade clause? Like Ryan Presley just did. Do teams sweeten the pot to try and get the player to agree? Seems like the player has all the leverage. It's timely with Luis Castillo's name. trade clause lingering over any trade.

I mean, it's a case-by-case basis. In Ryan Presley's case, it was either he would be a closer for the Cubs or he was going to be set up man. He was going to be a seventh, eighth inning guy for the Astros. So, you know, do you want the bigger role? And he ultimately chose the bigger role in Chicago. But it's different for everyone. I mean, in some cases, right? I mean, you know, the team might be a sinking ship and you just want to get the hell out of there.

Right. I mean, in Presley's case, too, it's that I think he can look at the Cubs and be like, do the Astros have a significantly better shot at winning the World Series than the Cubs this next year? No. I mean, the roster talent's about the same and all that. And sometimes you just want to change of scenery. You just want to change a pace. Sometimes it's like, wow, these guys don't want me here.

I don't want to be somewhere I'm not wanted. So I'll wave it there. But yeah, a lot of times there is some kind of negotiation. Players do have the leverage in that situation. And sometimes they use that leverage to, you know, make maybe a team option becomes a guaranteed year to get you to wave or maybe the buyout, you know, increases X amount. We've seen all this before where you just negotiate some kind of change to your current contract, either tack on a year or they, you know, the buyout. out for the team option is two million dollars and they say i want that to be five million dollars and they say okay so usually the player gets a little something out of it um a lot of no trade clauses uh can be

you know bought out for a million dollars uh if the player so chooses um so yeah i mean usually they they get a little bit of a kickback from the team that's acquiring them to waive their no trade clause but sometimes it is just like i don't like the role here i don't like the vibes here i don't don't want to pitch where I'm not wanted type of situation. So there's a lot of reasons why they could. We have a no trade clause. But, yeah, players have a lot of the leverage here. And I think, you know, the place where it's actually on full display more so than the Luis Castillo thing is the Nolan Aeronado conversations.

Because Aeronado has already rejected one trade that we know of. So, yeah, players do have all the leverage when it comes to the no trade clause. But there is often, you know, they will waive that right for. something in return or the player just feels like they like the situation they're going to more than the one they're in yeah it's just a better opportunity like again in presley's case like if you're closer then you know you have an easier path to you know an all-star selection stuff like that you know whether it be accolades or maybe there i haven't looked at his contract maybe there's incentives related to all-star games uh in his contract or games finished or games finished or saves

So yeah. But again, it's a case-by-case thing. It just depends on what the situation it is and where the player finds themselves. All right. So we are going to answer more of your questions here in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown-Ares podcast is brought to you by game time. So I used to live in New Mexico. And down in New Mexico, there are zero pro sports teams.

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Master Boni, Bliss, Canzon, Sheton, Revos, or a, player to be named later. I mean, odds are there's a player to be named later that's ultimately going to push guys down the list. Hopefully, at least, hopefully fingers crossed. But also as of today, like

a player to be named later doesn't make sense. Sure. Because like if we're making the 26 man roster today, we, sure. So I'm going to reject the premise of this question on those, on those grounds alone. Of course, like, like you always say. Yeah. But yeah, I mean,

The hard part here is that like, okay, who's the 26th man? Is it Ryan Bliss? It's like, well, what if Ryan Bliss is your starting second base? Right now, he probably is. All right. So let's think about it like this. Of the 13 position players, they're going to carry 13 because they always want to carry the maximum 13 pitchers.

So who are the locks? Julio, Randy, Robles, Cal, Raleigh. Rayleigh. Garver. Garver. Crawford. Moore. Yep.

Solano. I hope you're keeping track. I'm not. I'm at 9. Do we have Dillmore? Yeah. Probably Hanager at this stage, unfortunately. Oh, yeah, Hanager.

So that leaves three spots. So they're probably going to carry an infuse. So Rivas or Bliss is going to be on this team anyways. Yep. Revis probably is a lock right now because he can play short yeah probably yeah um take rivas off uh outfielder

you know i mean if i don't think they're going to carry another outfielder so i think because technically they have five is really four but technically technically they have five yeah so i feel like can zone's probably not going to make it i think right now bliss would be on the the major Groster. I think it would be Bliss and Shenton. I think Shenton is the guy who gets the nod. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think Bliss is the 25th guy right now, unfortunately. So, I mean,

Bliss is probably the starting second basement right now. Yeah. Rehaust is the utility starting third basement and then probably Shenton to play some third. Yeah. You know, but yeah, so probably Shenton, which

again is why another Donovan Solano move is totally fine. like yeah no that's fine like go get another donovan salano a three million dollar player but yeah so you know maybe maybe get someone better well thought but i mean like sure starting it out there but like you know who's not better spencer torkelson just throwing that out there but uh yeah it's like you just literally named everybody who's already going to be on the roster except for maybe mass rubony so yeah i guess i have to say shinton But the Mariners bench is bad right now.

So, yeah. Yikes. Yikes, yikes indeed. Stan wants to know, can you see the Mariners using the rest of their money to take on a bad slash expiring contract to get a better player in return for less? Like, for example, Miles Michaelis and Brennan Donovan, Kenta Maeda, and Matt Veerling, Christian Vasquez, and Edward Julian. I suppose it's possible, but that bad contract has to actually make sense on your roster. And like nobody you mentioned there makes any sense for this roster. And then it also has to fit within like 10 to 12 million dollars.

Yeah. And preferably only last one year. I think that it has to only last one year. So like, yeah, in theory you could. But like specifically like Vasquez, what you want to carry, $25 million in backup catchers? No. Maida isn't even good enough to be in your bullpen,

let alone in your rotation. So no. You're going to pay, you know, Matt Beirling, $16 million and the prospect capital. Get them? No. Meekyllis is the same thing as Maida, really. And he, correct me if I'm wrong. He's under contract for more than,

no, never mind. Myeda? He's only, I think all these guys. Michaelis. Michaelis. Yeah, he's got, he's a lot. got a year left. Yeah. But Michaelis is due $17.5 million. So. Yeah. That's $20 million between him and Donovan, uh, which is more than you apparently have. So even then they'd probably have to take Hanigur and at that point, what's the point of them doing that? It's a wash.

So like in theory, could they do something like this? Sure. In practice, I don't, I don't think that it's, it's going to work out that way. I just off the top of my head, I can't think of anybody who's a bad contract that has one year left on it. That makes sense for the Mariners that they could take on that would also net them the real player that they actually want. Yeah. If all that makes sense. Like we already know, like are they going to take on Yoshida to get Kassas? No, they're not going to do that because Yashita's got a multi-year deal.

So, yeah, just in theory they could. It's certainly a creative avenue they could look to go down. But in practice, again, you have to find an infielder, more or less. You have to find an infielder making between, you know, 8 to 12 million bucks, give or take, who has just one year left on his contract and is also on a team that has another piece you want. And because you want an infielder, well, I guess it could be an outfielder for the more expensive player. You need a bat making between $8 to $12 million in the last year of his contract for a team that also has an infielder that you want, that is also probably still willing to take prospects and or bullpen pieces.

Good luck. I mean, yeah, maybe there's one or two guys out there like that, but I doubt it. Colin wants to know. It seems like the Mariners will have to add a Fix Me or Lower End type bat this offseason, any particular guys that would intrigue you who would fit that bill.

I saw you talking a little bit about something along these lines. the other day, Colby, on Twitter. So I wanted to throw this question in here, talk about some of the guys that you mentioned. Because, yeah, I mean, at this point, seems like they might have to try and take a flyer on someone, hope that maybe they have similar success to Victor... Now, like, Victor Robles, like, was...

Ever got somebody, you know, at the bottom of their career and helped them succeed. Victor Robles now was, like, basically an MVP caliber player. after joining the mayor. So maybe not to that level, but you get the situation that we're describing here, right?

So I would say it's either a fix me or like a help me type of situation. So not necessarily that the player is broken, but like there's something there you can unlock maybe and get a little bit more than they've shown elsewhere. So yeah, first guy that comes to mind is Brandon Drury,

which is hilarious because the Mariners have had what, three opportunities to get this guy. We liked Brandon Drury a lot a couple of years ago. We liked him in the 22 deadline. we liked him with a 23 deadline. We liked him last off season. And the Mariners have shown no interest whatsoever. Yeah.

Maybe now they're desperate enough. And, sure. Yeah, Drury was probably the worst player in baseball last year. So it's really hard to imagine you can't be, you know, he's not going to rebound to some degree.

Because he was really actually pretty good in 22 and 23. So he also, you know, stands at second. I watched him play second when he was with the Angels. Nope. Nope. don't like that

nope maybe he can stand at third again it's not none of these guys are ideal but sure Brandon Jerry is the first guy that came to mind like this one's probably

a little bit more like Robles but it's also you know probably bigger risks than Robles but like a Brennan Rogers former top prospect still technically

in their athletic prime and we know that the merits have liked Brennan Rogers on the past to some degree right now Rogers can't hit outside of course field or at least he hasn't yet and he crushes lefties

but doesn't really hit righties. So yeah, there's a lot of concern there. But, you know, is this the guy that, you know, Edgar and what's his name? Yeah. Do they think they can help him because he does hit the ball pretty hard. He does have, you know, 15 home run pop. He's actually a fine second basement. Like it's not like he's a butcher out there. And, if you could get him to do what he did last year, right? Like just put up the numbers he did last year. But with him playing half of his games at T-Mobile, which I know. But like, if you can do that, he's probably a three-win player

because that's a 110 WRC plus at playing Hacker games at T-Mobile versus Coorsfield. And he's an average to a slightly above-average defender at second. And again, there's the top prospect pedigree that Jerry likes. There's blah, blah, blah. And he is actually a second basement. So at least you're getting some thing, some value out of him from the defense. At one point, though, do you go, like, why would I sign this guy and just block and block

opportunities for Ryan Bliss or whoever, right? But we're talking about like one year, $5 million. Like, we're not talking. I saw a couple of these questions in there that were like, Brennan Rogers, two years, $16 million. Brennan Rogers is not getting a multi-year deal. No chance. We're, what, a week and a half from spring training?

It's, it's pillow contract time. Like you guys are looking for a soft landing on a one year deal. And it's probably not even one year five mill. It's probably like one year two. Yeah. I mean like we'll see. Like I don't know. Whatever.

Right. It's less than it would have been two months ago. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. I think, you know, Rogers, if you're looking for kind of like the very specific like Victor Robles type, the youngish former top prospect. Sure.

Rogers is a guy that, whatever. That's my attitude towards him. Like, ugh. But like Brandon Drew. if you're actually looking for like, hey, this guy was really good. And actually if he does what he did in 2023, like, that's a legitimate, you know, number six hitter that you add to your lineup. So Drury is a guy that I like.

And then everybody else is just kind of like, you know, Iglesias like, like, is that a fix me guy? No, that's, you know, how real is a really good year. Yeah. Yeah. So I do think Drury is probably like the number one guy on that list for me. And then somebody like Brennan Rogers. I mean, Yon and Mankato would also fit this.

Yeah. He would probably, fit more in the help me category than the fix me, but whatever, who cares? Also, Jorge Polanco. Right now it sounds like Polo's best offer that he had on the table is one year, four million. And it seems like the Astros have kind of moved on. So if you can get Polo at one year, four million bucks,

and he's actually going to get to play every day for you, unfortunately, because of how he built the roster, that probably be pretty appealing to Jorge. Now does Jorge want to come back to Seattle? Is he open to coming back to Seattle? I don't know. You know, I don't know, but maybe. And at $4 million, $5 million, that's worth the risk. So there are a few guys out there that fit the mold,

but jury's probably my favorite. Nate wants to know. I apologize in advance for even asking this, but is there a chance the Mariners starting five is not as good as we think? We know T-Mobile Park is a pitcher's park in comparing home ERA versus away. Gilbert was a 249 at home and a 394 on the road. Kirby, a 306 at home and a 389.

on the road. Miller a 196 at home and a 407 on the road. Wu 247 and 329 on the road and Cassio a 315 at home and a 425 on the road. It's funny because those road ERAs are actually all really good. But I guess what confuses me about this question is, are they not playing at Team Mobile Park this year? Like are they not pitching half their games at Team Mobile Park again? like so what are we worried about i i don't um i don't know and also something to keep in mind here aside from castillo these are all young arms like these are 20 i think gilbert's the next oldest at 27 like i think that was just a last year thing i don't think this is like a long-term

concern it was just last year they were worse and i mean like naturally you are going on the road than you are at T-Mobile Park because T-Mobile Park is the most extreme ballpark in all of baseball. I mean, Mike Petrello literally just wrote an article about that today. By park factors, T-Mobile Park has more of an effect on the game than course field does. Yeah.

So, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, obviously like naturally, your pitchers are going to regress when they are pitching away from T-Mobile Park.

But I do think that some of the extreme issues. We saw, especially like on that road trip when they went to Tampa, Miami, when things kind of blew up for the pitching stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think that's an outlier. I don't think that's indicative of like maybe it is for Luis Castillo. But I don't think it's indicative of, hey, these guys are actually kind of just mediocre. No.

I mean, Castillo struggled on the road when his home ballpark was the great American ballpark. There's also just a comfort level and being 100% in your rhythm. and your routine when you pitch at home. I think you'll find most pitchers are probably better in neutral ballparks. Most pitchers are probably better at home than they are on the road. So, yeah, but also this is why we've said pretty consistently, like the Mariners don't have an ace because like an ace is good anytime, anywhere. Like they have a lot of really good pitchers and they have number twos and, you know,

maybe number, maybe Gilbert's number one. What makes the rotation so good and almost historic even like we've talked about, is the depth is like one through five. Bryce Miller would be at least 10 teams number one, opening day starter this year. Maybe more. Like, that's how good.

You see that cutter he's working on? I don't get too excited about pitches in the off season. But the last few times we've said that, it's worked out pretty well for both Logan, and Bryce Miller. Yeah, I saw him strike out that high school kid. That was impressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I mean, Bryce Miller with a cutter. I mean, he threw it a little bit last year, but yeah, obviously like that was, this is his tinkering thing that he's doing. Last year was the splitter, right? And the other thing about these mariner starters is they always tinker and they always bring something new to the table every year. Yeah, like the mayor's rotation is special. It's very good. It's not surprising that it's not as good on the road as it is at home for a lot of reasons. But no, the mayor's pitching is not overrated.

It's very good. Ask any manager of the other 29 teams. Hey, you want the marriage pitching staff? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I want the pitching staff. So, yeah, no, it's one of those things. It's kind of a fluke last year,

but also it's understandable why the ERAs are higher on the road. But yeah, there are some, I like, yeah, like Logan, you think about Logan's like really bad starts, Boston, Minnesota. That just throws off the entire year. I think he gave up 16 runs in those two starts. So like Kirby got lit up in Detroit and Baltimore and so did Bryce Miller. So, yeah, a lot of times, too, it's just like, yeah, they had like two really bad outings on the road. And because it's a smaller sample size in one season, it can explode numbers that way too.

So, no, I'm not concerned about the home road splits for the pitchers. The mayor's pitching is very good. Last question, very quick question comes from Jeff. You know, we like to talk about, like, how we operate and what, you know, kind of sites we use and resources we use and the stats we use and all that stuff. So I wanted to answer this real quick. Jeff wanted to know when I do fan fiction Friday I usually use SpotTrack

to see the salaries of specific players for the trades Do you guys use a different site to see the salaries or the same site? I mean when I'm live looking up contracts here on the show I just did that when we were talking about like Miles Michaels and all that I use SpotTrack

Spot Trek is pretty much on the mark when it comes to contract details but there's also COT-A-Postrophe S they have spreadsheets on there and it's a lot more detailed with the contract breakdowns. But those are the two that I use. Yeah, if you want to know who has, you know, five-star hotel room written into their contract, like COTS is the place to go. You want a rough idea of salary. Spot track is quick and it's easy. So COTS is more detailed. Spot track is, it used to be a lot less accurate.

spot track did but they've really stepped their game up and gotten the details devil's in the details type of stuff right over the last few years so yeah it's a totally fine thing to use be a spot track or cots it's also an extension you can download on fan graphs and it'll just tell you what the contract is uh good buddy isick levin uh made that um go ahead and tweet him and he'll send you the thing to the extension that you have to download but it's also working on editing it a little more but yeah it works pretty well you just hover over the the contract and it'll break down the the years and all that but if you want the most in-depth numbers you go to COTS if you want just you know like 98% accurate number like you just go to Spot Track like it's it's well within

the margin of error to just use spot track that's fine I would still use MLB trade rumors when it comes to our projections. Spot track was spot on with a couple of art projections, at least on the Mariners front, but for the most part, MLB trade rumors still was the most accurate in that regard. So whenever they drop their R projections, every single winner,

I use those instead of spot tracks. So, yeah, but yeah, if you just want simple contract details, like who's making what, Do they have a no trade clause or not? All that stuff. You can find that on SpotTrack and you don't even have to pay for it.

You can just do that on the free version of SpotTrack. So yeah. You don't have to do it on Kot. You don't have to pay for it on Kots either. Yeah. And like I said, Cots will tell you who has a like sweet reserve for them at every home game. Manny Machado.

It's getting a little greedy there, aren't we? That's also how you learn that every major. Like every major. Yeah. Every major like Padres for. agent signing, like from Xander to Machado to Darvish, like they all have a little clause in there where they have to donate $1 million of their salary to the Padres Cares Foundation or whatever there.

Doesn't the Braves also do that? I think so. Yeah. Like that's not uncommon, but I'm just saying like those are the details you don't get on spot track, maybe. There you go. Yeah. But, yeah, Scott, Spot Track, whatever.

All right. Well, there you have it. That's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marys podcast for Colby Patnode. I'm Tiding Azales. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Marrers. You can follow me at Tiding Azales and Colby at C-Pat-11.

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